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“The story was, as you put it right there, correct, reached out. Got a sample of the body, did the DNA sequencing, then worked with a team of two other Stanford scientists and Roche sequencing group, Roche Diagnostics, and probably a total team of about 11 or so people. And as a standard in these kinds of things, the professors actually don't do the work. The students do the work and figured out the answer. And then we help them put together the story. And the story was simply that it was human, 100%. I went into it thinking it was originally a monkey of some sort. I got kind of excited a few months into the process thinking, well, what happens if it is an alien?”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so it's very easy as well for religions to, I don't want to get into a whole religious conversation, but it's very easy for you could see how religions could call them angels or devils or what have you. Because again, if you're trying to fit it into a framework of cultural understanding, the first thing you reach for is God. And so When you look at what these things are, and again, with the angels and the devils, in a similar sort of way, Their communication is limited. Just kind of give little what's the oracle of Delphi. They kind of give these Delphic pronouncements. And then it's up to you to figure out what it is that they really mean.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that's the essential problem of, you know, Perhaps they realize who it is that they're talking to. And they say rather than muddy the picture, we're only going to give them limited information. And yeah, maybe we could sit down like you and I and have a conversation. But then they would make assumptions, the humans would then make assumptions about us that aren't true because we're not humans. Right. So let's stay at arm's length. Let's just let them know that Here, right? And here's the limited amount of communication. Again, this notion that You give somebody everything, they'll get lazy. If they've been around as long as they have, they've seen every kind of thing that can go wrong. And so they know as much as they might want to step in, that would be a wrong thing.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think if you're smart enough or technologically enabled enough, it's relatively straightforward. Now, whether your concepts Can ever be dumbed down to us. That might be hard.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Constantly think about whatever these things might be. We think that they are some sort of a unified. Force. Well, maybe they're not unified. Maybe they are as desperate as you and I are. And maybe what keeps them from stomping all over the ants is each other. That they are in a self tension to prevent one or more of them from running amok.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think just about your area AI, we're trying to make smaller and smaller and smaller circuitry that is basically closer and closer to the physics of how the universe operates, right? Right down at the level of quantum computers are basically, right down about quantum information storage. Fast forward, 10,000, 100,000 years. Maybe somebody found a way to embody AI directly into the physics of the universe, right? And it doesn't require a physical manifestation. It just sits in space-time. It's just a locally ordered space. We're just locally ordered spacetime. But maybe they just found a way to embody it there.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And as I've said before, alien means alien, right? I mean, not Hollywood aliens, but a whole different way of thinking and a whole different level of experience and, let's say, wisdom, hopefully, that we could only hope to understand. Now, but if we ever get out there, if we ever make it past our... Current problems. And even if we don't have faster than light travel, and even if we're only using RAM scoops or light sails to get where we want to go, it takes us 10,000 years to get somewhere or to spread out, we might encounter such things. And are we just going to stomp all over it like we did in colonial South America or Africa or all the rest? On our current path, likely. And so, what are we going to learn?”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think one motivation might be to steer us away from the precipice, right, or on the assumption that even if we make it past the precipice, at least we're not a bunch of psychopaths running around. So maybe there's a little bit of motivation there to make sure that the neighbor that's growing up next to you is not unruly. Like what we have with, you know, creating national parks where animals can continue to live out their lives in a natural way. I don't know. I mean, that would be, I mean, the problem is we're imagining from anthropomorphic viewpoint what an alien might think.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Make retroviruses in a way that he wanted to, and I realized I had a cell line that would allow us to make retroviruses in two days rather than two months. And so he and I then worked together to make that system. And now all gene therapy was retroviruses is done using this basic approach. Around the whole world because something couldn't be done and we wanted to do it better and we imagined the future. And so that's, I think, what the whole UFO phenomenon is doing for people. It's like, well, let's imagine a future. Where these kinds of technologies are. But also, let's imagine a future where we don't blow ourselves up, right? So if these things are there, they manage to not blow themselves up. So it means that at least one other civilization got past the inflection point.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In my own lab, you know, we always look for, as I've said before, what is inevitable. And, you know, saying inevitably this is the kind of data we need. But if we need that kind of data, the instrument we want doesn't exist. Okay. So I imagine the perfect instrument, I can't make it. And you back into something which is practical. And then you, in a sense, reverse engineer the future of what it is that you want to make. And I've started and sold like at least half a dozen or more companies using that basic premise. And so it was always something that didn't exist today, but we imagined what we wanted. And at the time, many people said it couldn't be done. I mean, for instance, all the gene therapy that's done today with retroviruses came from a group meeting in David Baltimore's lab. I was a postdoc with him. And one of the other postdocs wasn't able to use.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if it only stimulates people, for instance, to think, okay, well, what happens if we could move like that with momentumless movement? And it stimulates young individuals to go into the sciences to ask those questions. That to me is fascinating. I mean, after I've been openly talking about this in the last year especially, I've had a number of students from top schools who aren't my students come to me and say, I can help Let me. How can I help? I never had thought about this before, but you opened you and others, not just you and others have opened my mind to thinking about this matter.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here's not just people's testimony, these are credible individuals. And if you've seen the 60-minute episode with some of the pilots, they have no monetary gain of anything. They've got negative gain from coming out. But then you also have all of the simultaneous ship analysis from the USS Princeton and the radar analysis, et cetera. At the end of the day, it's just data. It's not a conclusion. I'd be perfectly happy, honestly perfectly happy if somebody showed that it was all a hoax. I go back to my day job.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, absolutely. No, I know a lot of these people, right? So Lou Alizondo, Chris Mellon, the whole crowd, I saw the videos about three weeks or so before they went public. I was at a bar with Lou overlooking the Pentagon in Crystal City, and they showed him to me and my hair stood on end. He said, This is coming out soon. And I know one of the guys on the inside who was the naval intelligence who had interviewed all of these pilots again before this came out. And it was hair raising to hear this. But also exciting.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's why I always find this issue of people talking about the so-called grays as interesting because it is related to what you're saying. They're different enough, but they're not so different as to be scary, right? They're not venom-dripping fangs, right? They're different enough, but they're also like what you could imagine us becoming in some distant future. So is that a purposeful representation? I don't know. I mean, I don't believe in the grays, for instance, but I believe that people think that they see it. So if we're talking about a communication strategy that says, you know, we're like you, but not the same as you. This might be a manifestation that you represent in terms of a communication strategy.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You could telefactor information into the sensory system of a human, right? But then each human is a little bit different. So either you know enough about them to tailor it to that individual, or you just basically take advantage of whatever the sensory net is that that individual has. So if you happen to be good at sound or you happen to be a very visually inclined individual, then maybe the sensory information that you get that's most effective in terms of transmitting information would come through that portal.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or if you were advanced enough, you would use some sort of electromagnetic or other means to stimulate their neurons in ways that would accomplish the same goal as the pheromones. But by doing it in a sort of a telefactoring way. So let's say you wanted to telefactor with humans. You would. Interact with them. And this is again, this is a technology which you could imagine possible.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Well, I mean, let's take the ANS exam again as an example. Let's say that you wanted to make ants practical. You wanted to use them for something, right? You wanted to use them as a form of biological robot. Now, DARPA and other people have been trying to use insects for turn them into biological robots. But if you wanted to, you would have to interact with their sense of smell, right? Their pheromone system that they use to interact with each other. So you would either create those molecules to talk to them, to make them do it. I'm not saying talk to them as if they're intelligent, but talk to them to manipulate them in ways that you want.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Virtual reality that is imposed on you. I mean, you know, I think the company Meta and all the virtual reality companies would love to have something like that. Well, you don't have to actually wear something on your face. Experience a virtual reality, what happens if you could just project it?”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So different it doesn't fall into the standard story at all, but it also in another way it's kind of a clear enunciation of this notion that when people see events, they don't all see the same thing. Now, we've heard this about traffic accidents. Different people will see the color of the car differently or the chain of events differently and just tells you that memory isn't anywhere near what we think it is. The issue around these so-called UFO reports is that Same people will see a very different thing almost as if whatever it is is projecting something into the mind rather than it being real, rather than it being a real manifestation material in front of you. It's actually almost some sort of an altered.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mentioned the Zimbabwe one that's particularly interesting. And one that actually most people don't know about, but family driving down the highway, two little girls in the back, open glass topped car, and the little girl see a craft right over their car. This is the middle of the day on a busy highway. Mother Nobody can look around, nobody else seems to see it. So the girls take out their camera, take a picture of it. And then they get home. They look at the picture. No craft, but there's a little object about thirty feet above their car or so, probably about three feet across, kind of star-shaped. Not the craft It's something else. There's obviously there was something there. And so, what were they seeing? Were they seeing a projection? Were they seeing, and why were only they seeing it?”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, at first, it tries to classify it and get it out of the way. If it's not food, if it's not sex, if it's not in the way of my desires, or if it is in the way of my desires, then you focus on it. And so I think the question is how much spare processing power, how much CPU cycles do we spend on things that are not those core? Desires”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The reason why it seems to be in, let's say, so called experiencers or people who claim, if intuition is the ability to see something that other people don't, and I don't mean that in a paranormal sense, but being able to see something disinfect of you that other people might just dismiss. Maybe that's a function of a higher kind of intelligence to say, well, I'm not looking at Artifact I'm not looking at something that I should just ignore. I'm seeing something and I recognize it for not what it is, but that it is something different than is normally found in my environment.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he called them savants. I don't have the means to, we haven't done the testing. But as it turns out, my family has it. We found it in me, my brother, my sister, my mother. We found it as well in other individuals, husband and wife pairs. So statistically, if you had a group of 20 individuals and you found two husband-wife pairs, both of whom had it, and yet it's only found at about, we think, one in 200, one in 300 individuals, the fact that two individuals came together. Sets of individuals came together, both of whom had it implied either a restricted breeding group. Or attraction”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a goal processing system subservient to executive function. So what we think we found there was not something which allows people to talk to UFOs. I mean, I think the UFO community took it a step too far. What I think we found was a form of higher functioning and processing. So what we then looked at, and this was the most fascinating part of it, we looked then at individuals in the families of those, let's say the index case individuals, and we found that it was actually in families. And more so, this is the most fascinating part. We've probably looked now at about 200 just random cases that you can download off of databases online. You don't see this higher connectivity. You only find it In what Kit Green would have called, or has called higher functioning individuals, people who are.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It requires access to your desires, memory, knowledge of where and what you want and desire to walk near or by. Like I use the example of if you're at a party you want to avoid that person, you like that person, the waiter is about to drop something, all without thinking, you maneuver. All that planning is done in the Basel ganglia. And it's actually now called the brain within the brain.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Intelligence and is actually downstream of the executive function and involved with intuition and planning. And if you think about it, if you're going to have motor control, which is centralized in one place, motor control requires knowledge of the environment. You don't want to move something and hit the table. Or if you're walking across a room, you want to be aware and cognizant of what you might bump into. So obviously all of that planning is requires access to all the senses.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But when we were looking at the brains of these individuals, we noticed something right in the center of the basal ganglia in many of these individuals that at first we thought was damage. It was basically an enriched patch of MRI dense neurons that we thought was damaged, but then it was showing up in everybody and then we looked and we said, oh, it's actually not the other readings on these MRIs show that actually that's living tissue. That's actually the head of the caudate in the Potamin. And at the time, and I remember even asking a good friend of mine at Stanford, who is a psychiatrist, what does the basal ganglia do? He said, oh, the basal ganglia is just about movement and nerve and motor control. I said, well, that's odd because, you know, these other papers that we were reading at the time started to suggest that it was involved with higher”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the study started with a group of, let's say, a cohort of individuals that were brought to me and their MRIs to ask about the damage that had been seen in these individuals. It turns out that the majority of those patients ended up being, as far as we can tell, Havana syndrome. And so for me at least, that part of the story ends in terms of the injury. It's likely almost all Havana syndrome. That's somebody else's problem now. That's not my problem.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then you show yourself as the gods. And then your god, well, we don't believe in God anymore necessarily. Not everybody does. So what do we believe in? We believe in technology. So you show yourself as a form of technology, right? But the common thread is you're not alone. Or something else here with you. And there's something that's, as you said, watching you, and at least. Watching over your shoulder But I think that like any good parent, you don't tell your student everything. You make them learn. And learning requires mistakes. Because if you tell them everything, then they get lazy.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think they saw what they said they saw, but I also think they saw what they were shown. I mean, if you go back to the whole notion of, okay, how long has this been around? It didn't just start showing up in 1947. There are stories going back into the 1800s of people who saw things in their farm fields in the US. It's in local newspapers from the 1800s. It's fascinating. But if you can go even further back, so to your point of, how would you as a higher intelligence represent yourself to a lesser intelligence? Well, let's go back to pre-civilization. Maybe you show yourself as the spirits in the forest and you give messages through that. Once you get a little bit more civilized,”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right now, we're a bunch of angry monkeys, and maybe whatever these intelligences are are also keeping an eye on us, you know, that you don't want a bunch of, you know, you don't want the angry monkey troop stomping around the local galactic arm.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's actually a movie coming out on this episode. And 30 years later now, the people who were there, the children who've now grown up, say it happened to us. Now, did it happen? Was it some sort of hallucination or was it an imposed hallucination by something? Was it material? I don't know. These kids were seven to ten years old. You see them on video seven to ten year olds can't lie like that. And so, you know, whether it's real or not, I don't know. But I find that fascinating data. And again, it's these unconnected stories of individuals with the same story. That is worthy of further inquiry.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Message that you're not taking care of your world. And this came long before climate change. It came long before many kinds of, you know, let's say current day memes around taking care of our planet, pollution, et cetera. And so, you know, for instance, perhaps the best example of this, the one that I find the most fascinating, is a story out of Zimbabwe. 50 or 60 children one afternoon in Zimbabwe. It was a well-educated group of white and black children who had lunchtime in the playground saw a craft. And they saw little men. And they all ran into the teachers and they told the same story and they drew the same pictures. And the message several of them got was, you're not taking care of your planet.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And you have to listen. And once you start to hear the same story again and again, then you have to say, well, there might be something to it. I mean, maybe it's some kind of a Jungian background in the human mind and human consciousness that creates these stories again and again. And it's coming out of the DNA. It's coming out of that pre-programmed something. And Young talked quite a bit about this kind of thing, the collective unconscious. But actually, one of the most interesting ones I find is this constant”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The similarity of them, the uniformity of the stories. Now, I just want to say up front. Lot of people think that when I speculate, I believe something. That's not true, right? Speculation is just creativity. Speculation is the beginning of hypothesis. None of what I hear in terms of the anecdotes do I necessarily believe are they true? But I still find them fascinating to listen to because at some level they're still raw data.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Go to zero and we can't collapse. I mean, so the only way to get around that is perhaps create enough machines with AI to take care of us.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Runs out of steam, and you, for instance, does it just get bored or does it transcend to something else? Or does it say, I've seen enough and I'm done?”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, would you be, in his case, one of them were the so called puppeteers? And to them, the moral imperative is cowardice. You put other people forward to run the risk for you, right? And so he writes entire books around that premise. There's another guy, Brin, David Brin, is his name, and he writes the so-called uplift universe books. And in those he takes different intelligences, each from a different evolutionary background. And then he posits a civilization based around where and what they came from. And so to me, I mean, that's just fun. But I mean, back to your original question is how many are there? I think as many stars as we can see. How many are currently there? I don't know. I mean, that's the whole question of how long can a civilization last before it.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The creative ideas of what people come up with. And I especially like science fiction writers that base it in good science, base it. If you evolve a civilization from something lifelike, right, some sort of biology, its assumptions about the universe will come from The environment in which it grew up. So, for instance, Larry Niven is a great writer. And he imagines different kinds of civilizations. In some cases, what happens if... What happens if intelligence evolved from a herd animal? Would you lead from behind”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Much greater than zero. I mean, I would just be surprised. What a waste, right? Of all that space just for us if we're never going to get there. That would be my first. Way to think about it. But second, I mean I remember when I was about seven or eight years old and I would love if any of your listeners could find this national geographic. I remember opening the page of the National Geographic. I was about, again, seven to ten years old. And it was sort of a current picture of the universe. It was around probably 1968, 1969. I just remember looking at it and thinking, What kinds of Empires have risen and fallen across that space. That we'll never know about. And isn't that sad that we know nothing about something so grand? And so I've always been a reader of science fiction because I like”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, exactly. That's the kind of, in a way, the anthropomorphic universe of the multiverse expectations, right? That there's probably a zillion other kinds of universes out there if you believe in multiverse theory. We only live in the ones where the rules are such that life like ours can exist.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it would be different each time. I mean, if you assume there's no such thing as fate, right? And it's not all pre programmed and that there is some sort of, let's say, variation or randomness at the beginning, you would get as many different versions of life as you could imagine. And I don't think it would all be unless there's something built into the substrate of the universe. It wouldn't always be left-handed Proteins, right”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, who you are today, right? So 3 billion bits of information does not explain Lex Friedman. Explain me, right? But the DNA embodies the expectation of the environment in which you will live. Grow and become. So all the information that is you, right, is actually not only embedded in the DNA, but it's embedded in the context of the world in which you grow into. Develop, right? But so all that information, though, is packed in the expectation of what the DNA expects to see.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is not a moment in time. It assumes the context of the body and the environment in which it's going to live. And so if you want to ask a question of where and how does information get stored, DNA, although it's only 3 billion base pairs long, contains more information than I think the entire computational memory resources of our current technology because who and what you are is both what you are as an egg all the way through to the day you die and it embodies all the different cell types and organs in your body. And so it's a computational Reservoir of information and expectation that you will become. So actually, I would sort of turn it around a different way and say, if you wanted to create the best memory storage system possible, you could reverse engineer what a human is and create a DNA memory system that is not just the linear”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think you have to take just one more step back to the complex computer that is the universe. All of the so-called particles or the waves that people think the universe is made of and appears to me at least to be a computational process and embedded in that is biology, right? So all the atoms of a protein, et cetera, sit in that computational matrix. From my point of view, it's computing something. It's computing towards something. It was created in some ways if you want to believe in God. And I don't know that I do, but if you want to believe in something, the universe was created or at least enabled to allow for life to form. And so the DNA, if you ask where does DNA come from, and you can go all the way back to Richard Dawkins and the selfish gene hypotheses, the way I look at DNA, though, is”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Micro machines and the nanomachines that proteins make and become, that to me is the most interesting. The fact that you have this basically dynamic computer within every cell that's constantly processing its environment. And at the heart of it is DNA, which is a dynamic machine, a dynamic computation process. People think of the DNA as a linear code. It's codes within codes within codes, and it is actually the epigenetic state that's doing this amazing processing. I mean, if you ever wanted to believe in God, just look inside the cell.”
2022-02-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #262 – Garry Nolan: UFOs and Aliens · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source