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Gary Hart

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  1. “I'm going to talk about over time. There was nothing in the rules, the new rules, that prevented an Adley Stevenson or senior Democratic officials from Trying to become delegates. They weren't shut out. They were just used to being handpicked by the machine in various states, New York, Illinois, and elsewhere. What the correction was, since what your question assumes, how do we get the party regulars, elected officials and party officials back into the process? And there was a counter reform four years later because of McGovern's big loss and the question you ask. And we got something called super delegates. And they were automatic delegates because of their position in the party or as elected officials.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Well, there's a very long story there. It wasn't a slam dunk. It could have gone the other way with a shift of delegations. So we offered, I was involved in this, we offered half delegate seats to the daily delegation and to the singer Jackson delegation and the daily delegation turned them down.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “The mayor of Chicago, the original mayor daily, did not do so. He picked the delegates. So we get to the convention in Miami and we had to decide who was seated. Well, this is a terrible. We needed Mayor Daly, clearly. And yet these governments.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “So, guess what happens? A reform McGovern group led by a young, I think, Billy Singer, and a young black activist, Jesse Jackson, followed the rules and elected delegates.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “And every state Democratic Party, every city knew what the rules were. A certain proportion had to be women, certain proportion had to be minorities. The process had to be open to young people. Delegates were not going to be selected in back rooms by party bosses. It had to be open and transparent. And everybody knew this. Right.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Well, that's certainly a theory among political scientists and political journalists. But let's take the Illinois delegation, for example. The rules were established two years ahead of the delegate selection process. We're talking about”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Here in Colorado, but I wasn't nationally involved. But I strongly believed after 68 that the rules had to change, and they did.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “I really wasn't involved in the so-called McGovern Commission. I worked as a local volunteer and they held hearings around the country and I helped organize the hearings.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “It's a good question Many of my friends did from the law school. It was a notoriously active law school. I can't account for it, I probably should have. It certainly was wholly in sympathy with Martin Luther King and the whole movement. It did work for Robert Kennedy here in Colorado in 68 the following year Because of Vietnam, but also civil rights.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “You could go outside the room and ask ten people what is a republic and they couldn't tell you. We talk about ourselves being a democracy, but we salute the flag of a republic. Central to a republic is citizen participation. So I choose to believe John Kennedy knew there was this was the essence of... Of classical Republicanism small are and portrayed that message, which by the way we haven't heard since. And for the last 25 years, I've made it a study of Republican theory. I wrote a PhD thesis on the theory of the Republic in modern-day America. And it doesn't work if citizens don't participate. And they are not”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Well, also because I don't want to pin the tail on the media donkey, but there is much more cynicism about politics today. Look, we had Watergate, we've had the Vietnam War, which was not honestly portrayed to the American people. There have been a lot of bad things happen. And instead of having a kind of instinctive trust in a new candidate, a young John Kennedy or something, there's almost an immediate skepticism that goes into a cynicism later about almost everybody in politics. That's the big change. You know about the service, public service, whether he realized or not, that message came from ancient Athens 800 BC. And it is the centerpiece of the Republic. Now we salute the flag of the Republic of the United States.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Worthy for sure, but not active enough. So all of a sudden there was a new possibility not get involved in politics. That was not John Kennedy's message or Robert Kennedy's either. It was public service. And people almost never make that distinction, including people in the media. But there's a big difference. Do what you can for the country. I don't think John Getty ever said to my generation, go out and run for office. He didn't say that. Find a way to give something back to your country, your community, your state, whatever. So that opened up a new vista for me, which I had never thought of.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “I did. I went on to Divinity School, but people assume that means you're headed for the Pastoral ministry. My goal was an academic one more than a theological one. I wanted to teach in college. My major in college was philosophy with courses in religion and so on, obviously. But I had in mind to get a PhD in philosophy and religion and spend my life teaching. And along came, among other things, the 60 Kennedy campaign. And I was at that time feeling less and less. Strongly about a teaching, an academic career in the sense that it seemed to”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “It was strict, and that's a good word because they were not fundamentalists. I don't remember anyone saying that the earth is only 4,000 years old. I mean, we didn't have that kind of challenge to science at that time. But they were strict on personal behavior. And during high school and then on to the college, the church college I attended in Oklahoma. We could not, we were not supposed to dance, go to movies. The ladies couldn't supposed to wear makeup and jewelry. No gambling, obviously. It was pretty strict. But again, I think, oddly enough, when you're in that environment, you don't think all that much about it. We've made some jokes about it, but that was it.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Well, my mother particularly was of the two. They were both church-going people. But my mother, particularly and characteristically, was more devout, I would say, than my father who is an outdoorsman. He taught me to hunting and fishing, great, great down-to-earth salt of the earth man, and values too, by the way. But my mom was very much into the church, an evangelical church. So we went to Sunday school and Sunday morning service and Sunday night service, and often to midweek prayer meetings. And I just took it for granted. It was a, I'm trying to think how you would characterize it. I would suspect virtually everybody in my high school went to some church. So it was just kind of part of the, I wasn't unique in that respect.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “eleven there was anything extraordinary about earning twenty five cents an hour, which is what I earned. So I went on to college and”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “I grew up in a small farming town in eastern Kansas, Ottawa, about ten thousand people then and now. My parents working people from large families, both of them, and neither of them had the chance because of the financial burdens their families were under to even finish high school. So they were insistent that I go to college and also we found it necessary at an early age that I would begin to work in the summers. My first paying job, I was 11 years old, and what was then called a car hop? Your audience today won't have a clue what that was, but I was delivering hamburgers from a little diner in two people's cars that had drive-in, drive up. And then I have worked every year of my life since then, and that's quite a few years. And I didn't think at the age of 15.”

    2017-08-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 165 - Gary Hart · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source