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Gary Johnson

lines on the record: 77
first: 2016-10-10
most recent: 2016-10-10
sittings or episodes: 1
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“You're spending time with us today, and I appreciate you spending time with us young. And good getting to know you. Thank you. Yeah.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I've never been a rock thrower also. I don't know if you know this. I did not mention when I ran for governor of New Mexico two cycles. I did not mention my opponent in print radio or television and two cycles. Didn't mention them. And I debated my opponent the second time me controlling the debate process the second time. I debated Marty Chavez twenty eight times. I mean, hey, take me, leave me. I have a different view about politics. Look, I'm in this to change things. I think I can walk away from this potentially changing the two party system. That possibility exists.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm I am right now No, I'm giving people a first vote I'm not a protest vote. I'm the first vote Independence, young people.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I'm leading among independents. I'll bet on election day I'm leading among millennials, or if I'm not, you know, Hillary's got a billion bucks. We got ten million bucks. I mean, it's amazing. Really, it's amazing.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, in this case I am running, so there is an in this in the case of Bush, you know, he's running against Carrie and, well, who do you vote for between those two? I voted for Bush right now, I think that you voted for the vote for the v”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, I said at that and I've always been a fan of the Cato Institute. So I was out of office when all this was, you know, when I just left office and there was all this buildup and what Cato had to say regarding it was, and I said the exact same thing. So I was asked about it and I just gave them the verbatim Cato response, which was, no, let's not invade Iraq. We have the military surveillance capability to see them roll out any weapons of mass destruction. We can deal with it if they do that. If we go into Iraq, we're going to find ourselves in a civil war in which there will be no end. That was the lines I delivered right after I left office on what do you think about Iraq?”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did, but I was out of office and I was never called. I mean, I voted for him. So when you say support, was there ever any, look, I was kind of the pariah. I was the guy that wanted to legalize pot. You know, there was a stiff arm. I was not a sought after recommendation for any.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was the only governor, only sitting governor in the United States to not endorse him in the primary. I did in the general election, but I was the only governor that didn't do it in the primary.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I went first. I was first which party am I going to run for? Democrats, Republicans? And I actually went to the libertarian meeting, monthly meeting in Albuquerque. It took me about two minutes to realize that there's no way that I was going to get elected doing this. I was a registered Republican at the time, and the reason I was a registered Republican is my belief in smaller government, that government does take too much of my money. I can better spend my money than the government, and so ran as a Republican.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a perfect world I would like to adopt genuine market reforms that would result in better health care and lower prices, which I think is competition. Ultimately, that's competition.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“See, and I would argue that Medicaid and Medicare drive the entire healthcare market, that pricing was based on Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements down the line. And that healthcare is anything but it's an absolute government program as it is.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You've recognized ahead of time that there is an emergency room in town that has the best results for The whole range of everything that deals with emergency rooms.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“None. You're going to go to the emergency room, and that's what you do today regardless, and that's going to be unchanged. Right. But you may have gone. I'm just trying to understand your change. You may go to emergency room or us where...”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because people Well, so when I was governor of New Mexico, a little bit of a cul de sac here, David. But when I was governor of New Mexico, I had a health insurance policy as governor of New Mexico. What if we give everybody in the state that's on Medicaid? What if we give them my health insurance policy? Would we actually save twenty five percent? Yep, that's what we did. Simple as that sounds.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well before the Affordable Healthcare Act came into existence, no one in this country was going without health insurance. It was getting paid for a leading source of bankruptcy because you're saddled with a debt that you can't pay. Well,”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, back to what I stated today, I think that would come under the catastrophic injury and illness, and yeah, I do recognize that pre existing condition, I mean, if that ends up to being an entirely subsidized government program, maybe we just need to get it out in the open. It is an issue that exists, and I think that we can do that.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just not the political will to make that happen, but I can certainly see legislation to fix it, to make it more competitive. And, you know, from a certainty standpoint, look, I'm going to sign on to anything that will make the health care industry more competitive, lower prices, better healthcare.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Donors and lobbyists what reading the other day that they're at one of the number one contributors to the AARP. That's why the AARP hasn't taken this on.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Donors and lobbyists. Which would last about two days that importation would last about two days before US manufacturers would fall in line. Why do you think that that has a”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I'm in the camp that that's a hard one to parse. I'm in the camp that you can, though, parse not giving them advantage and that there is advantage that exists, that governments for sale, government picks winners and losers. I cited the epipen as an example. I think that at the root of one supplier is the government.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, so you're correct with your criticism that it is regressive, so the way the fair tax deals with that is it issues everyone in the country a prebate check of two hundred dollars a month, so you and I are each going to get twenty four hundred dollars a year that covers our use of that consumption tax up to the point of the poverty level. So there are essentials that all of us have to buy. That's the way that the fair tax deals with the fact that it is regressive up to a certain point. Used goods, there is not a tax that applies to used goods. So in that regard, it's also kind of green.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The reality, I mean, I have always said that the best example that I can think of of a libertarian tax is the gas tax. Of course, that's been hijacked also various states and the federal government that not all the money collected from the gas tax actually goes to infrastructure. But if it did, and most of it does, that's a great tax, and of course now you've got electric cars and it's going to pose a whole nother issue, but you've got GPS units now that are going to be built into the cars, and you'll pay the tax based on miles driven. I mean, I get the future. I see the future.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Smaller government, individual choice always coming down on the side of individual choice that they talked about in this little pamphlet. They did talk about drugs and marijuana and freedom taxation that ideally user fees could be applied to everything it is that you do. Well, I get the theory, but it makes a lot of sense.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I was speaking specifically about foreign policy. I was speaking specifically to NATO and the terrorists. No, no, and this is a different. So that was not what I was answering. I don't know if I would honor the Paris Accords from the standpoint if we're out in front on this. Carbon doesn't have any boundaries. If we're out on front on this and it results in fewer US jobs, no, I'm not going to put us in a position of losing US jobs to comply ahead of everyone else.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if we're the ones without knowing How is China? Let me just be a skeptic here. How is China ever going to conform to that? Maybe they will, but if we're going to take the lead in the Paris Accords and it will result in a loss of jobs because we're going to take our carbon to a level much lower than China is, I mean, I just question, is China going to be on par with us for the same amount of, they're going to have to reduce their carbon emissions by percentages as opposed to loads?”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I subject myself to probably six hours a day of no filters on the interviews that I do. And I've been doing this now for probably about five or six months. And I recognize that it's different for Hillary and it's different for Trump. The questions are prepared. They know what's going on. They talk to friendlies. For me, everybody's a friendly. I mean, it's open game. I'm running for president of the United States. Look, 90% of people don't know what Aleppo is, but 90% of people aren't running for President of the United States. I am, and there's no excuse.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not everybody knows. I've met some really wonderful people, but the question is foreign leader, and in that context, you know, I can sue.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, no, no. Well, you know, that here's what's on their resume. Here's what's on their resume. So I said this today. Having never been involved in politics before, I put a lot of people on pedestals in this country that I thought were. should be on pedestals, and here it is I come to find them to get to know them firsthand and there's no concern that I can see for public policy. There's no concern for doing what's right. It's all about polls. It's all about getting re-elected. It's empty suits.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't want to do anything that takes a step backwards in any of this. And I'm just... Back to the National Security Briefings and that you're going to elect a president that is going to be well thought. And not for a second do I want to say that Obama has not been well thought, but if he has been, if you're saying that he has been, I'm making the pitch that I'm going to be a continuation of that.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And you would also have to admit that, and nobody wants to see it, but it's really, I think it's a surprise that we haven't seen that. I mean, everybody's expecting everybody, everybody understands that. The worst is by worst that this is going to happen again. This is going to happen. It is.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In Syria Yes. Caliphate. And so on Yes, it is. And obviously, it's a multifaceted strategy. And then back to being regionally contained, and then you get into the issue. And I'm not, you know, you know more about this than I do, having been close to the president for as long as you were. The presidency, these inspired attacks. Well, what's that all about? What's to prevent what happened in France the other day with the truck being used as a weapon? That's a situation that exists in ten thousand different locations in this country every day.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that and outlined it today that it be regionally contained, and believe me, I understand that that is the strategy of the administration to bleed them of their money. That is also, I mean, this is ongoing. This is going to be with us. This is not going to be victory. This is part of the world order.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I'm back to the damage. I'm back to what I believe are thousands of innocent people that have been killed as a result of our drone strikes. And I don't think that that has served us well. So I probably would be a lot more judicious than Obama.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Terrorism has been a. Well, certainly terrorism front burner, yes, but what are the specifics? I would love to know. And can you share the specifics?”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, so you are the first person with the proximity to the White House, you are the first person with that kind of proxy you just now closest proximity to telling me that this is actually what was transpiring between the NSA and the President of the United States. I wish I were getting national security briefings right now because all I can do is just guess as to what those briefings entail.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If I switch my position on guns, I'm going to always support the Second Amendment of the Constitution How do you keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill? Well, I'm open to that discussion. How do you keep guns out of the hands of would-be terrorists? I'm open to that discussion.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. Well, I think that's what you want. You don't want to elect somebody who's going to say never, say never. And I put out there my example on the death penalty as a, you know, we all evolve as human beings.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Problems from buying guns. Yeah, I'd love to sit down with all those advocates for advocates for that and understand it as well as I possibly could. Maybe I end up being an advocate for”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, just that universal I wouldn't the problem is that there are sitting members of Congress that are on the no-fly list. Could there be a way that there be a very expedited process, that if you find yourself on one of those lists that you could expunge yourself from that list in a very efficient and meaningful way? If that's an issue of more resources, you're asking.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well no, but I would imagine that the example that you're pointing out is not unique to Chicago. I imagine that situation exists in many places in the city.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well back to Chicago and back to the way that I think constitutionally this country was meant to perform and that it would actually perform a lot better if it wouldn't be Washington top-down, if it would be Chicago actually going off and embarking on their experiment on how to make things better and other cities would emulate.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, well, and I would do everything in my power as president to accommodate those kinds of arrangements. I'm not advocating that as a federal program, but just very quickly on marijuana, as President of the United States, I would deschedule marijuana as a class one narcotic. Marijuana is going to be a state's issue just like alcohol. I mean, there are still dry counties in this country”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first of all, when it comes to marijuana, I would deschedule marijuana. And that's the only drug I'm advocating. By the way, I advocated the legalization of marijuana in'99. I am only advocating the legalization of marijuana When you then go to other drugs, I think when we legalize marijuana, we're going to take a quantum leap as a country to the understanding of drugs as a health issue rather than a criminal issue.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that was one of the things of the Zurich program before it went into effect. But in fact, you know, you registered as a heroine to get the heroine, you have to register as an addict. Statistically, people quit their use of heroin after about 12 years on heroin. They just stop. But in this country, heroin addicts don't live twelve years. They die of overdose. They die of HIV, hepatitis C.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So if communities were really concerned about this and really wanted to prevent these kinds of deaths, cities could set up and David, this is not a federal program. I'm not advocating a federal program here whatsoever, but if Chicago were to set up clinics that you as a heroine addict could come in and get your heroin tested without fear of criminal repercussion, we'll test it for you and we'll determine whether it will kill you or not. If you are genuinely concerned about reducing or eliminating death due to heroin, that is a program you may definitely do.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that if individual cities and not one individual city in the United States has taken on a program, for example, I mean, if you really care, we have the most effective policies in the world for killing heroin addicts. We do. If you're really concerned about heroin addicts living as governor of New Mexico, I signed legislation allowing for needle exchange and HIV and hepatitis C dropped dramatically as a result of the needle exchange program.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, essentially, no, they adopted heroin maintenance program where if you were at this is Zurich now, if you were a heroin addict, you could get free heroin and you get free heroin, you get clean needles, you get as many doses as you want. None of the doses would kill you, so the idea was, okay, clean needles, no more HIV, no more hepatitis C. Free, so no more crime, no more prostitution involved.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Chief of police from Zurich came to a World Drug Conference in Albuquerque in two thousand two. And he said when they came out with this heroin maintenance program in Zurich, he said, I've been in law enforcement my entire life. All my friends, me, we could not have been more opposed to this heroin maintenance program. This death, disease, crime, corruption was going to skyrocket, he said. I'm here, I'm here at this convention to say that all of those things got better in a big way. Death, disease, crime, corruption, plummet through.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People Well, first of all multifaceted. Marijuana does directly compete with these opioids and with regard to opioids statistically legal prescription opioids kill about thirty thousand people a year. There's not been one documented death due to marijuana. So gee, that's a difficult one to assess pluses and minuses. But that said, you know, looking at heroin overdose, I mean overdose is a function of quality, quantity unknown. If you really, if communities are really concerned with reducing death, disease, crime, and corruption, you can look to cities like Vancouver and you can look to cities like Zurich that those things have actually happened.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And what were we getting for that? Well, and then it was starting off with, well, gee, I guess I better start off with taking a look at Holland and the fact that they have just rampant because they've essentially decriminalized all drug use, that they've got horrible crime, they've got horrible addiction rates. And come to find out, I mean, this didn't take but hours to recognize that that was all a lie. All of it was a lie. And then the recognition after about two weeks of studying it, and some of the world's experts that came into New Mexico to help me out with the issue, but it was about a two week process, and man, I had all the facts down, and it was the wrong thing to be doing.”
2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source