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Gary Johnson

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  1. That would have been a disqualifier, I think, in a big way. But you asked me what motivated me with regard to marijuana. It was the recognition that half of what the state was spending on law enforcement, the courts, and the prisons was drug-related.

    2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. President's on the job all the time and running for president is a 24-7 job also. So five months ago somebody asked me, well, when was the last time you used it? Well, it's truth. I've been really well served by the truth. So five months ago, that answer was, well, two days ago I consumed, well, that was five months ago, and I made a pledge. Look, this is a full-time job.

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  3. No, no, and actually I said that I would not do that. I think that first of all, I've always been an advocate that you shouldn't be on the job impaired.

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  4. Well, yeah, as a pain reliever as a way to deal with literally being on my back for two weeks without moving, I had a burst fracture of my twelfth T vertebrae in my back and I was prescribed that I was to be on the floor on a hard floor for three straight weeks.

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  5. Right. Well, so, you know, first time I use marijuana 17, I use marijuana through college, used it off and on, then went on a long period of time where I never used it at all. And after having been governor and I suffered a really bad accident, I started using it again as a person.

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  6. Well no, just health and wellness is my whole thing in life. I haven't had a drink of alcohol in almost thirty years. You said you said you said you

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  7. I have used marijuana. I have used marijuana throughout my life on various occasions, but I came to it from and I never use marijuana as governor of New Mexico. Because it was easy.

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  8. Bravo. Bravo. I did, I put it out there that I would commute anyone sentence that was in state prison victimless nonviolent drug crime. It was at that point that I came to recognize that that category of prisoner is in federal prison, not state prison. State prison, you know what? There were other crimes committed, gun crimes, violent crime. Yeah, drugs were at the heart of it, but it wasn't just possession only. I did have a couple of high-profile taking people out of jail because I said, look, show me the victimless nonviolent drug offender behind bars, and I'll take him out of prison.

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  9. The main category of prisoner today in federal prison is the person who has sold small amounts of drugs on numerous occasions and been caught.

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  10. Yes, and I came to that advocating for the legalization of marijuana in 1999. I really didn't know what that was going to entail. I really didn't. And I really went into that with an open mind. This wasn't a predisposition to say, hey, let's legalize marijuana. But when I got into the drug war, there was this immediate recognition that if you're of color, you know, there's a much more likelihood that you will end up behind bars than if not. So what I came to recognize was that this three strikes you're out legislation, mandatory sentencing legislation disparagingly. That's not the right word, but it just overwhelmingly these crimes were drug-related crime, arguably victimless nonviolent crime, possession, sale.

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  11. I did. There was one case that came up, and as a result of that one case that came up where a person was put to death, he admitted to the crime had long admitted to the crime. He wanted to be put to death. I let that occur. But in that happening, it was wave after wave after wave of those opposed to the death penalty. And I met with those groups, and it was in that whole process that I came to recognize the error rate that does exist.

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  12. What I read as an anti crime candidate, it never got through the legislature. The Democrats control At that time I would have assigned that kind of legislation. You know, we do evolve and I have come to recognize that I wish I would not have supported that. Why? Well, let me use the death penalty as an example. I was a supporter of the death penalty until I came to realize that the government makes mistakes on the death penalty. It may be that there's a 4% error rate when it comes to the death penalty. Well, David naively, I just didn't think the government really made mistakes. Well, when I came to recognize that, I reversed myself in office and supported repeal of the death penalty.

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  13. Well, the thing I was most proud of is I campaigned on the notion of, look, I'm just going to bring a common sense business approach to state government. I've never been involved in politics before, so my pledge to you all as voters is that I will put the issues that should be on the front burner, on the front burner, regardless of the political consequence, because there is no political consequence. I'm not a politician. I haven't been. And so what I'm most proud of is that we did that. We really took it on. We took the whole thing on. We were not wallflowers. You name it. The hardest, the biggest issues facing the state were always put on the front burner.

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  14. Yeah, but it was really just going to the mailbox and picking up checks. I mean, that came along with being the nominee. There was just an automatic. I never asked for funds. I never solicited campaign contribution. And I think because I paid for my own primary, I think that it was viewed as, well, gee, there's no quid pro quo here. It's contributing to good government. At least that's the way I viewed it.

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  15. It's the main ingredient. But if you don't have it, if you've got it, if you are a together candidate, if you're a genuine candidate

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  16. Right, right. But growing up, you'd see community leaders that would be running for office and you knew that they had money and that they were spending money. And the campaign was just a disaster. So I think you can have all the money in the world. And if you're a disaster as a candidate that you just don't survive.

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  17. Well, haven't you found this has been my experience whenever I see somebody with a lot of money sign up to run for political office, like a Donald Trump, for example?

    2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Well, one of the, you know, people talk about limiting campaign contribution or that there should be public funding for campaigns. I think that when you limit funding, when you allow for public financing of campaigns, that your really advantaging incumbents. You're advantaging those that have a name as opposed to somebody that's completely outside of politics. So in my case, you don't stand a chance with limited campaign contribution. I think that there should be 100% transparency when it comes to campaign contributions, something that doesn't exist today, but limiting campaign contribution, like I say, if you've got a name, you're going to be at a big advantage if you are the incumbent. You're going to be at a big advantage to anybody. Else that's running for that office.

    2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Healthcare benefits, all that. Now, of course, we grew into all that. If that would have been a requirement from the very get-go, I know that I would have never been able to grow the business as I did because it would have been completely prohibitive to have started off that way.

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  20. That we had profit sharing, that I put it out there from a formula standpoint that, look, I'm all about entrepreneurs. I'm all about promoting you and what it is that you want to do as an employee of my company. If you have an idea, why don't I bankroll it? You will get a third of the profits, and I'll get two-thirds of the profits. So you don't have to leave the company to be an entrepreneur. That was growing the profits. Sharing in the profits for everybody. So profit sharing for everybody helps.

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  21. Well, a couple of takeaways, big takeaways just the simple notion of showing up on time, keeping your word, sharing in the profits, man, that is a magic formula for growing the pie, and then hiring out how to do it.

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  22. Yeah, started a one man handyman business in 1974 and actually grew that business to employ over a thousand people, electrical, mechanical, plumbing pipe fitting about as high tech as it gets. American dream come true. Amazing what happens when you show up on time and you just do what you say you're going to do for people. Share in the profits. What did you learn?

    2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. I did. I did. I always thought that that was something that I wanted to do. I came to an early epiphany that I got my degree in political science and getting that degree came to recognize that the number one component of getting elected is money. And I also came to this epiphany that you know what I don't want to go out and raise money because boy, that's going to involve compromises or compromising myself. Somehow I was going to put myself up for sale so I thought well I'll just wait until I can afford it myself. And that's what I did. I basically paid for my primary run running for governor in New Mexico with my own money.

    2016-10-10 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 86 - Gary Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just always held politicians on a pedestal, looking up to them. You know, wow, these are people that get elected and they're in positions to, you know, do good. I always believe that. I've always believed politics was a high calling. Being in a position to do good by others. David, you know this as well as anybody I could get people lined up for city blocks to tell you that I'm the scourge of the earth and that I'm not, that I don't have anything to do with doing good. But that was the intention. It remains the intention.

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  25. No, absolutely not. They were registered always been had always been registered Democrats, but never in a partisan way at all.

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  26. She was an accountant, and they consolidated all of the six regional offices in the United States in Albuquerque. So that's how we got there.

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  27. Yep, yep, moved North Dakota, South Dakota, moved to New Mexico when I was 13. My mother got transferred there with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and really then, you know, New Mexico, great move. My dad went to New Mexico as a boy scout and was kind of always trying to angle his way back.

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