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Geoffrey Hinton

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“Probably in interviewing CEOs, you're probably better at that. You've got a lot of experience at it. You're a good interviewer. You know a lot about it. If you got GPT-4 to interview a CEO, probably do a worse job.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so it's already, AI is already better than us at a lot of things, in particular areas, like chess, for example. AI is so much better than us that people will never beat those things again, maybe the occasional win, but basically they'll never be comparable again. Obviously the same and go. In terms of the amount of knowledge they have, something like GBT four knows thousands of times more than you do. There's a few areas in which your knowledge is better than it, and in almost all areas it just knows more than you do.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think it might not be that far away. It's very hard to predict, but I think we might get it in like 20 years or even less.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and Need to figure out if we can make it go well. So the nice scenario is imagine a company with a CEO who is very dumb, probably the son of the former CEO, and he has an executive assistant who's very smart. And he says I think we should do this and the executive assistant makes it all work. The CEO feels great. He doesn't understand that he's not really in control. And in some sense he is in control. He suggests what the company should do. That's the good scenario.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe for a while some kinds of creativity, but the whole idea of superintelligence is nothing remains these things will get to be better than us at everything.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That will mean they need less people. In other jobs like in healthcare they're much more elastic. So if you could make doctors five times as efficient, we could all have five times as much healthcare for the same price. And that would be great. There's almost no limit to how much healthcare people can absorb. They always want more healthcare if there's no cost to it. There are jobs where you can make a person with an AI assistant much more efficient and you won't lead to less people because you'll just have much more of that being done. But most jobs, I think, are not like that.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I think that's true. But for many jobs, that'll mean you need far fewer people. My niece answers letters of complaint to a health service. It used to take her twenty five minutes. She'd read the complaint and she'd think how to reply and she'd write a letter. And now she just scans it into a chatbot. It writes the letter, she just checks the letter. Occasionally she tells it to revise it in some ways. The whole process takes her five minutes. That means she can answer five times as many letters, and that means they need five times fewer of her, so she can do the job that five of her used to do. Now we”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and that's been the case for other technologies, but this is a very different kind of technology. If it can do all mundane human intellectual labour, Then what new jobs is it going to create? You'd have to be very skilled to have a job that it couldn't just do. So I don't think they're right. I think you can try and generalize from other technologies that come in like computers or automatic channel machines, but I think this is different.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, so the next one is joblessness. In the past new technologies have come in which didn't lead to joblessness, new jobs were created, so the classic example people use is automatic tele machines. When automatic telemachines came in A lot of bank tellers didn't lose their jobs, they just got to do more interesting things. But here, I think this is more like when they got machines in the Industrial Revolution and the You can't have a job digging ditches now because a machine can dig ditches much better than you can. And I think for mundane intellectual labour AI is just going to replace everybody. Now it may well be in the form of you have fewer people using air assistance, so it's a combination of a person and an AI assistant and now doing the work that ten people could do previously.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the company had, no, I don't know the precise details, but I'm fairly sure the company had indicated that it would use a significant fraction of its resources, of the compute time for doing safety research, and then it kept then it reduced that fraction. I think that's one of the things that happened.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think he does. He won't tell me what his secret source is I'm not sure how many people know what a secret sauce is. I think a lot of the investors don't know what a secret sauce is, but they've given him billions of dollars anyway because they have so much faith in Asia, which isn't foolish. I mean, he was very important in AlexNet, which got object recognition working well. He was the main force behind the things like GPG2, which then led to chat GPT. So I think having a lot of faith in Ilya is a very reasonable decision.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, there's two issues one is can you slow it down? and the other is can you make it so it will be safe in the end it won't wipe us all out I don't believe we're going to slow it down The reason I don't believe we're going to slow it down is because there's competition between countries and competition between companies within a country and all of that is making it go faster and faster. And if the US slowed it down, China wouldn't slow it down”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Done some really good things like pushing electric cars. That was a really good thing to do. Some of the things he said about self driving were a bit exaggerated, but that was a really useful thing he did, giving the Ukrainians communication during the war with Russia. That was a really good thing he did. There's a bunch of things like that, but he's also done some very bad things.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And this person doesn't really give a fuck about the harm that it's going to have on the world. And this person who I'm referring to is building one of the biggest air companies in the world. And I then watch this person's interviews online. Trying to figure out which of three people it is.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is it money or is it power? Yeah, I shouldn't have said money. It's some combination of this, yes. Okay, I guess money's a proxy for power. I've got a friend who's a billionaire and he is in those circles. And when I went to his house and had lunch with him one day, he knows lots of people in AI building the biggest AI companies in the world. And he gave me a cautionary warning across his kitchen table in London where he gave me an insight into the private conversations these people have, not the media interviews they do where they talk about safety and all these things, but actually what some of these individuals think is going to happen. And what do they think is going to happen? It's not what they say publicly. Who is leading one of the biggest AI companies in the world, he told me that he knows this person very well and he privately thinks that we're heading towards this kind of dystopian world where we have just huge amounts of free time. We don't work anymore.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That would give you some insight, yes, it would give you some reason to believe that there's a problem there. And if you look at Sam's statements some years ago, He sort of happily said in one interview this stuff will probably kill us all. That's not exactly what he said, but that's what it amounted to. Now he's saying you don't need to worry too much about it. And I suspect that's not driven by. seeking after the truth that's driven by seeking after money.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know, Sam, so I don't want to comment on that. But from what you've seen. Are you concerned about the actions that they've taken If you know earlier, and Ellie's a good guy on his left”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think he left because he had safety concerns. Really? I still have a lunch with him from time to time. His parents live in Toronto. And when he comes to Toronto, we have lunch together. He doesn't talk to me about what went on at OpenAI, so I have no inside information about that. But I know Ilya very well. And he is genuinely concerned with safety. So I think that's why he left. Because he was one of the top people. I mean, he was probably the most important person behind the development of ChatGPT. The early versions like GPT-2, it was very important in the development of that. You know him personally, so you know his character. Yes, he has a good moral compass. He's not like someone like Musco has no moral compass. This Sam Oughtman have a good moral compass. We'll see.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One of your students we talked about earlier, Ilya? Yep. Ilya left OpenAI and there was lots of conversation around the fact that he left because he had safety concerns. Yes. And he's gone on to set up AI safety company. Yes. Why do you think he left?”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it is a bit sad that it's not just going to be something for good. So I feel I have a duty now to talk about the risks. And if you could play it forward and you could go forward thirty, fifty years and you found out that it led to the extinction of humanity. If that does end up being that. Being the Well, if you played it forward and it led to the extinction of humanity, I would use that to tell people to tell their governments that we really have to work on how we're going to keep this stuff under control. I think we need people to tell governments that governments have to force the companies to use their resources to work on safety. and they're not doing much of that because you don't make profits that way.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It sort of takes the edge off it, doesn't it? I mean, the idea is going to be wonderful in healthcare and wonderful in education and wonderful, I mean, it's going to make call centers much more efficient, the one worries a bit about what the people who are doing that job now do. It makes me sad. I don't feel particularly guilty about developing AI like forty years ago because at that time we had no idea that this stuff was going to happen this fast. We thought we had plenty of time to worry about things like that. When you can't get the AI to do much and you want to get it to do a little bit more, you don't worry about this stupid little thing is going to take over from people. You just want it to be able to do a little bit more of the things people can do. It's not like I knowingly did something thinking this might wipe us all out, but I'm going to do it anyway.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We simply don't know whether we can make them not want to take over and not want to hurt us. Do you think we can? Do you think it's possible to train super intelligence? I don't think it's clear that we can. So I think it might be hopeless. But I also think... We might be able to, and it'd be sort of crazy if people went extinct because we couldn't be bothered to try. If that's even a possibility, how do you feel about your life's work? Because you were Yeah.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's really cute. It's very cuddly, very interesting to watch, except that you better be sure that when it grows up it never wants to kill you because if it ever wanted to kill you, you'd be dead in a few seconds. And you're saying that AI we have now is the target cup? Yep. And it's growing up. So we need to train it as when it's a baby. Now, a tiger has lots of innate stuff built in so you know when it grows up. It's not a safe thing to have around. But lions, people that have lions as pets. Yes. Sometimes the lion is affectionate to its creator but not to others. Yes. And we don't know whether these are really.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“has no idea where I'm going, has no idea what I do. I can't even talk to him. Yeah. And the intelligence gap will be like that. So you're telling me that if I'm Pablo, my French bulldog, I need to figure out a way to make my owner not wipe me out. Yeah. So we have one example of that, which is mothers and babies. Evolution put a lot of work into that. Mothers are smarter than babies, but babies are in control. And they're in control'cause the mothers just can't bear lots of hormones and things. But the mother just can't bear the sound of the baby crying. Not all mothers. Not all mothers. And then the baby's not in control and then bad things happen. We somehow need to figure out how to make them not want to take over. The analogy I often use is forget about intelligence, just think about physical strength. Suppose you have a nice little tiger cup. It's sort of a bit bigger than a cat.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's no way we're going to prevent it from is smarter than us, right? There's no way we're going to prevent it getting rid of us if it wants to. We're not used to thinking about things smarter than us. If you want to know what life's like when you're not the apex intelligence, ask a chicken. I was thinking of my good Pablo, my French bulldog this morning as I left home.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, my basic view is there's so many ways in which your superintelligence can get rid of us. It's not worth speculating about.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. You can get combinatorily many risks by combining these other risks. So, I mean, for example, you could get a super intelligent AI that decides to get rid of people, and the obvious way to do that is just to make one of these nasty viruses. If you made a virus that Very contagious, very lethal and very slow. Everybody would have it before they realized what was happening. I mean, I think if a superintelligence wanted to get rid of us, it would probably go for something biological like that that wouldn't affect it.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So two days ago I was visiting a friend of mine in Sussex who had a drone that cost less than two hundred pounds. The throne went up, it took a good look at me, and then you could follow me through the woods. And it was very spooky having this drone it was about two meters behind me, it was looking at me, and if I moved over there, it moved over there, it could just track me. two hundred pounds, but it was already quite spooky.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, even when the machines aren't smarter, so the lethal autonomous weapons, they can make them now, and I think all the big defense ministers are busy making them. Even if they're not smarter than people, they're still very nasty, scary things.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, that's even if the robots do exactly what the people who built the robots want them to do. The risk is that it's going to make big countries invade small countries more often.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Creat such weapons. So the worst thing about them is big, powerful countries always have the ability to invade smaller poorer countries. They're just more powerful. But if you do that using actual soldiers, you get bodies coming back in bags and the relatives of the soldiers that were killed don't like it, so you get something in Vietnam. In the end, there's a lot of protest at home. If instead of bodies coming back in bags, it was dead robots, there'd be much less protest, and the military industrial complex would like it much more, because robots are expensive. And suppose you had something that could get killed and was expensive to replace, that would be just great. Big countries can invade small countries much more easily because they don't have their soldiers being killed.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think people know pretty well that particular problem of showing you more and more extreme things. That's a well-known problem that the politicians understand. They just need to get on and regulate it.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think calling it kneecapping is taking a particular point of view, is taking the point of view that regulations are sort of very harmful. What you need to do is just constrain the big companies so that in order to make profit, They have to do things that are socially useful. Like Google search is a great example. That didn't need regulation because it just made information available to people. It was great. But then if you take YouTube, which starts showing you adverts and showing you more and more extreme things, that needs regulation.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it will but you have to decide Do you want to compete with China by doing things that will do a lot of harm to your society? And you probably don't.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The tech companies in the States now, at least a few weeks ago when I was there, they were running an advertisement about how it was very important not to regulate AI because it would hurt us in the competition with China.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I've seen the video of the US Education Secretary talking about how they're going to get AI in the classrooms, except she thought it was called A1. She's actually there saying we're going to have all the kids interacting with A1.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Capitalism has done very well for us is to produce lots of goodies. But you need to have it very well regulated. So what you really want is to have rules so that when some company is trying to make as much profit as possible. In order to make that profit Not things that are bad for people in general. So once you get to a situation where in order to make more profit, the company starts doing things that are very bad for society, like showing you things that are more and more extreme, that's what regulations are for. So you need regulations with capitalism. Now, companies will always say regulations get in the way, make us less efficient, and that's true. The whole point of regulations is to stop them doing things to make profit that hurt society. And we need strong regulation.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's crazy. We don't have a shared reality anymore. I share reality with other people who watch the BBC and other BBC news and other people who read The Guardian, and other people who read the New York Times. I have almost no shared reality with people who watch Fox News. Wor Behind all this is the idea that these companies just want to make profit, and they'll do whatever it takes to make more profit.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, so basically if you have a newspaper and everybody gets the same newspaper, Get to see all sorts of things you weren't looking for, and you get a sense that if it's in the newspaper, it's an important thing or significant thing. But if you have your own news feed, my newsfeed on my iPhone, three quarters of the stories are about AI. And I find it very hard to know if the whole world's talking about AI all the time, or if it's just my news feed.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And further, which means you're driving away, which is now the states, there's two communities that don't hardly talk to each other”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so it's basically the profit motive is saying, show them whatever will make them click. And what will make them click is things that are more and more extreme.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and that's the policy that YouTube and Facebook and others use for deciding what to show you next is causing that. If they had a policy of showing you balance things, they wouldn't get so many clicks and they wouldn't be able to sell so many advertisements.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Feeling I'm sort of angry but feeling righteous. So for example, if you were to show me something that said Trump did this crazy thing, here's a video of Trump doing this completely crazy thing. I would immediately click on it.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, then there's creating these two echo chambers Organizations like YouTube and Facebook showing people things that will make them indignant. People love to be indignant.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and what they've done is turned off lots of the security controls, got rid of some of the organization to protect against that.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can send messages that they'll find very convincing telling them not to vote, for example. So I have no reason other than common sense to think this, but I wouldn't be surprised if part of the motivation of getting all this data from American government sources is to corrupt elections. Another part might be that it's very nice training data for a big model”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You get all this data on people. You know how much they make where they know everything about them. Once you know that it's very easy to manipulate.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So anybody wanted to use AI for corrupting elections would try and get as much data as they could about everybody in the electorate. With that in mind, it's a bit worrying what must is doing at present in the States. Going in and insisting on getting access to all these things that were very carefully siloed, the claim is it's to make things more efficient, but it's exactly what you would want if you intended to corrupt the next election.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think they could, yes. Now they'd be worried about retaliation, they'd be worried about other governments doing the same to them. Hopefully that would help keep it under control. They might also be worried about the virus spreading to their country. Then this corrupting elections. So if you wanted to use AI to corrupt elections, A very effective thing is to be able to do targeted political advertisements where you know a lot about the person.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have a little disk drive and I back up my laptop on this hard drive. So I actually have everything on my laptop on a hard drive. At least if the whole internet went down, I had the sense I still got it on my laptop and I still got my information. Then the next thing is using AIs to create nasty viruses. And the problem with that is that just requires one crazy guy with the grudge, one guy who knows a little bit of molecular biology, knows a lot about AI, and just wants to destroy the world. You can now create new viruses relatively cheaply using AI. And you don't have to be a very skilled molecular biologist to do it, and that's very scary. So you could have a small cult, for example. A small cult might be able to raise a few million dollars. For a few million dollars they might be able to design a whole bunch of viruses.”
2025-06-16 · The Diary of a CEO · Godfather of AI: I Tried to Warn Them, But We’ve Already Lost Control! Geoffrey Hinton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT