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George Hotz

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“We can just try to classify her to absolutely say what level of Maslow's hierarchy of argument are you at. And if it's ad hominem, like, okay, cool. I turned on the no ad hominem filter.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know, but you know, I just use words to describe what they functionally are and what is an ad blocker, it's just censorship.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's individualized, right? It's individualized, transparent, censorship, which is honestly what I want. What is an ad blocker? It's individualized transparent censorship, right?”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this isn't even remotely controversial. This is just saying you want to give paying customers for a product what they want”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was hoping, and I remember when Elon talked about buying Twitter six months earlier, he was talking about a principled commitment to free speech. And I'm a big believer in fan of that. I would love to see an actual principled commitment to free speech. Of course, this isn't quite what happened. Instead of the oligarchy deciding what to ban, you had a monarchy deciding what to ban, right? Instead of, you know, all the Twitter files, shadow, really, the oligarchy just decides what cloth masks are ineffective against COVID. That's a true statement. Every doctor in 2019 knew it, and now I'm banned on Twitter for saying it. Interesting. Oligarchy. So now you have a monarchy. And, you know, he bans things he doesn't like. So, you know, it's just different power. And like, you know, maybe I align more with him than with the oligarchy.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. So my time there, I absolutely couldn't believe I got crazy amount of hate, you know, just on Twitter for working at Twitter. It seemed like people associated with this. I think maybe you were exposed to some of this.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's probably a few of those people. And the problem is inherently what the algorithm rewards, right? And people think about these algorithms. People think that they are terrible, awful things. And, you know, I love that Elon open sourced it because, I mean, what it does is actually pretty obvious. It just predicts what you are likely to retweet and like and linger on. That's what all these algorithms do, what TikTok does. So all these recommendation engines do. And it turns out that the thing that you are most likely to interact with is outreach. And that's a quirk of the human condition.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I deleted my first Twitter in 2010. I had over 100,000 followers back when that actually meant something. Just saw, you know. My coworker summarized it well. He's like, whenever I see someone's Twitter page, I either think the same of them or less of them. I never think more of them. I don't want to mention any names, but like some people who maybe read their books and you would respect them, you see them on Twitter and you're like, Okay, dude”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To people, think you need most people at all? I think that why do I need most people? Right? Don't make an 8,000 person company, make a 50-person company.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I actually think it's incredible that we're starting to see. I think, again, Elon's doing so much stuff right with Twitter, like charging people money. As soon as you charge people money, they're no longer the product. They're the customer. And then they can start building something that's good for the customer and not good for the other customer, which is the ad agencies.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is a couch surfing CEO thing, right? If it shows you right now, these algorithms are designed to maximize engagement. Well, it turns out outreach maximizes engagement. Quirk of human mind. Just this. I fall for it. Everyone falls for it. So, yeah, you got to figure out how to maximize for something other than engagement.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Without ever censoring. And like Scott Alexander has a blog post I like where he talks about moderation is not censorship, right? Like all moderation you want to put on Twitter, right? Like you could totally make this moderation like just a you don't have to block it for everybody. You can just have like a filter button that people can turn off if they would like say search for Twitter, right? Like someone could just turn that off, right? So then you'd like take this idea to an extreme, right? Well, the network should just show you.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know what it is? The algorithm promotes toxicity. Know, I think Elon has a much better chance of fixing it than the previous regime.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whenever someone's telling me some story from the news, I'm always like, I don't want to hear it. CIA op, bro. It's a CIA op, bro. Like, it doesn't matter if that's true or not. It's just trying to influence your mind. You're repeating an ad to me. Viral mobs, like, yeah”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am not being, I would pay so much money for that product. I would pay so much money for that product. You know how much money I'd pay just for a spam filter that works?”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That saying may of course be my own biases, right? That may be my own biases that these people are a lot more aligned with me than these other people, right? So, you know, I can certainly recognize that. But, you know, in general, this is a common sense maxim, which is the people who end up getting power are never the ones you want with it.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't think everyone, I don't think everyone. I just think that here's the saying that I put in one of my blog posts. When I was in the hacking world, I found 95% of people to be good and 5% of people to be bad. Like just who I personally judged as good people and bad people. They believed about good things for the world. They wanted flourishing and they wanted growth and they wanted things I consider good, right? Him into the business world with comma, and I found the exact opposite. I found 5% of people good and 95% of people bad. I found a world that promotes psychopathy.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nobody does. We give it to everybody. And if you do anything besides give it to everybody, trust me, the bad humans will get it”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The thing that worries me, I mean, we have a real danger to discuss, and that is bad humans using the thing to do whatever bad unaligned AI thing you want.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am so much not worried about the machine independently doing harm. That's what some of these AI safety people seem to think. They somehow seem to think that the machine independently is going to rebel against its creator.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just such a shame that they all got rich, you know? If you took all the money out of crypto, it would have been a beautiful place. I mean, these people, you know, they sucked all the value out of it and took it.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's you was Times Person of the Year in 2006, right? Like that's, you know, so quickly did people forget. And I think some of its social media, I think some of it, I hope, look, I hope that I don't, it's possible that some very sinister things happen. I don't know. I think it might just be like the effects of social media. But something happened in the last 20 years.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, somewhere probably. We've got Chrome, right? And now let's go from 2010. We got Android. Now let's go from 2010 to 2020. What does Google have? Well, search engine, maps, mail, Android, and Chrome. Oh, I see. The internet was this, you know, I was times first in the year in 2006.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A question to ask about those beautiful sexy products. Imagine 2000 Google to 2010 Google, right? Lot changed. We got maps. We got Gmail”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure, I hope so. I hope to see another era. You know, the kids today don't know how good the internet used to be. And I don't think this is just, oh, come on. Like, everyone's nostalgic for their past, but I actually think the internet before small groups of weaponized corporate and government interests took it over was a beautiful place.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think that it would be polite for you to make model architectures open source and fundamental breakthroughs open source. I don't think you have to make weights open source.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Definitely in skill and performance, probably just a number too. Probably just in general. I mean, if you believe philosophically in democracy, you obviously believe that good outnumber is bad. And the only, if you give it to a small number of people, A chance you gave it to good people, but there's also a chance you gave it to bad people. If you give it to everybody, well, if good outnumbers bad, then you definitely gave it to more good people than bad.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not even going to say there's a lot of good guys. I'm saying that good outnumber is bad, right? Good outnumber's bad.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not even like, I don't even mean these things in like truly horrible ways. I mean these things in straight up ad blocker, right? Yeah, straight up ad blocker. I don't want ads. They're always finding, you know, imagine I had an AI that could just block all the ads for me.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let's say the intelligence agency deploys a million bots on Twitter or a thousand bots on Twitter to try to convince me of a point. Imagine I had a powerful AI running on my computer saying, okay, nice Psyop, nice Psyop, nice Psyop. Okay. Here's a Psyop. I filtered it out for you.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a difference. Again, a nuclear weapon cannot be deployed tactically and a nuclear weapon is not a defense against a nuclear weapon. Except maybe in some philosophical mind game kind of”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know and what I thought about this. I thought about this. And I think this comes down to a repeated misunderstanding of political power by the rationalists I think that Eisy Yudkowsky is scared of these things, and I am scared of these things too. Everyone should be scared of these things. These things are scary. But now you ask about the two possible futures. One where a small trusted centralized group of people has them, and the other where everyone has them. And I am much less scared of the second future than the first.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the more we can decentralize power, Like, you could make an argument, by the way, that nobody should have these things. And I would defend that argument. I would, like you're saying, that, look, LLMs and AI and machine intelligence can cause a lot of harm. So nobody should have it. And I will respect someone philosophically with that position, just like I will respect someone philosophically with a position that nobody should have guns. But I will not respect philosophically with only the trusted authorities should have access to this. Who are the trusted authorities? You know what? I'm not worried about alignment between AI company and their machines, I'm worried about alignment between me and AI company.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Away, no, and I'll tell you why the George Hotts character can't. And I thought about this a lot with hacking, right? Like, I can find exploits in web browsers. I probably still can. I mean, I was better out when I was 24, but. Thing that I lack is the ability to slowly and steadily deploy them over five years And this is what intelligence agencies are very good at, right? Intelligence agencies don't have the most sophisticated technology. They just have End”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Only closed source. I'm not saying you need to make your model weights open. Not saying that. I totally understand we're keeping our model weights closed because that's our product, right? That's fine. I'm saying like because of AI safety reasons, we can't tell you the number of billions of parameters in the model. That's just the bad guys.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, if I were a researcher, why would you want to work at OpenAI? Like, you know, you're just on the bad team. Like, I mean it. Like, you're on the bad team who can't even say that GPT-4 has 220 billion parameters.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I lost $80,000 last year investing in meta. And when they released Llama, I'm like, yeah, whatever, man. That was worth it.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Centralized and held control is tyranny. I will always, I don't like anarchy either, but I will always take anarchy over tyranny. Anarchy, you have a chance.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Intelligence to everybody, you know what? It's not even like guns, right? Like people say this about guns, you know, what's the best offense against a bad guy with a gun, good guy with a gun. I'm like, I kind of subscribe to that, but I really subscribe to that with intelligence.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. So intelligence is scary, right? So to ask this question in a generic way, you're like, what if we took everybody who maybe has ill intention but is not so intelligent and gave them intelligence? So we should have intelligence control, of course. We should only give intelligence to good people. And that is the absolutely horrifying idea.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're basically saying is like, okay, what's going to happen is these people who are not intelligent are going to use machines to augment their intelligence. And now intelligent people and machines, intelligence is scary. Intelligent agents are scary. When I'm in the woods, the scariest animal to meet is a human. I see you're wearing street clothes and Nikes are at fine. But you look like you've been a human who's been in the woods for a while. I'm more scared of you than a bear.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, yeah, and I think that if someone is actually serious enough to hire a hitman or build a bomb, they'd also be serious enough to find the information.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And you'll still go to jail, right? Like, it's not like the language model is God. Like, the language model, it's like you literally just hired someone on Fiverr.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, you can hire people to build up, you know what? I was asking this question on my stream like can Jeff Bezos hire a hitman? Probably not.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're not going to build a bomb. Trust me. The people who are incapable of figuring out how to ask that question a bit more academically and get a real answer from it are not capable of procuring the materials, which are somewhat controlled to build a”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First off, first off, first off, anyone who's stupid enough to search for how to blow up a building in my neighborhood is not smart enough to build a bomb.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I know, but half of these AI alignment problems are just human alignment problems. And that's what's also so scary about the language they use. It's like, it's not the machines you want to align, it's me.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But yes, everyone at OpenAI knows what I just said was true, right? Now, ask the question, really, it upsets me when I like GPT2, when OpenAI came out with GPT-2 and raised a whole fake AI safety thing about that. I mean, now the model is laughable. Like they used AI safety to hype up their company and it's disgusting.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Undoubtedly You know, what's ironic about all these AI safety people is they are going to build the exact thing they fear. We need to have one model that we control and align this is the only way you end up paperclipped. There's no way you end up paperclipped if everybody has an AI.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The other thing that's going to be cool is there is some aspect of a winner take all effect, right? Like once someone starts deploying a product that gets a lot of usage, and you see this with OpenAI, they are going to get the data set to train future versions of the model. They are going to be able to ask a Google Image Search when I worked there like almost 15 years ago now. How does Google know which image is an Apple? And I said the metadata. And they're like, yeah, that works about half the time. How does Google know? You'll see they're all apples on the front page when you search Apple. And I don't know. I didn't come up with the answer. The guy's like, well, it's what people click on when they search Apple.”
2023-06-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #387 – George Hotz: Tiny Corp, Twitter, AI Safety, Self-Driving, GPT, AGI & God · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source