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Gillian Keegan

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  1. “No, not at all, but you've also got to recognize the work that's been done to improve our school standards, which have actually meant that now our kids are fourth in the world for reading. And in the international tables, which are the best judgment we have, really, we're now going up.”

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  2. “Yes, when we took office in 2010, there were 68% good or outstanding, so 32% were requires improvement or inadequate. Now we're 89% good or outstanding, so 11%. Are you confident?”

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  3. “These schools they built, we call them the wacky warehouses. They didn't have a classroom wall in them. So kids were sort of in different parts of the building with like cloth between them. They were terrible. So actually they had to spend a fortune putting the walls in. But that wasn't the point. The point is... One investment in the standards of education has meant that now 89% of our schools are good or outstanding. Just this last year, nearly 120,000 kids have gone from going to poor schools, inadequate schools, to going to good or outstanding schools. So that is the focus of the school. We will have a big discussion on offshore.”

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  4. “I often wonder where you lot go because honestly, I go into loads of schools all over the country. And I always have, because I've always gone into schools in Chichester, I always go into schools in Knowsley because a lot of my cousins teach actually. And so I've always done that. Generally, I just don't see the same picture. Our schools, we've really, really focused on improving the standards in our schools. I mean, in Knowsley, all of the schools would have been seen as failing comprehensive schools. In fact, the Labour government at the time knocked all of the schools down and rebuilt them, completely started from scratch, the secondary schools. And they didn't build them. In fact, they built them without classrooms. We were some kind of experiment.”

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  5. “And taking them through the teenage years to their adult life and making sure that they have really great chance at the start and to get on is what I see is why I'm in politics.”

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  6. “Well, the thing that I really, really believe in, and it is in my DNA, is, and people will say this, but I truly believe it because I've lived it, which is that there is talent everywhere in our country, but that opportunity doesn't always match that. And the number one thing that I think governments can do is to make sure that that opportunity matches the talent. And I was in Liverpool actually this week in a school to focus on attendance and the problems that every country has with attendance post-pandemic has got worse in schools. And it just took me back. I was talking to 9, 10, 11 year olds, bright as anything, enthusiastic, optimistic about their future. And it really, really made me think very deeply that taking that young person with all of the hopes and all of those aspirations and all of that confidence and, you know, just exuberance.”

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  7. “Yeah, and I think there is, you know, you can see that. And a lot of the when you look at the way people are paid, a lot of that salary.”

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  8. “Well, what you've got, I mean, Bill Gates in particular, I mean, technology has consolidated a lot of power into a few hands, right? That's true. And often, you know, you will get these trends where you have, you know, sort of big things that change everything, disrupt industries, change the way we do everything, and consolidation can happen. And you do have to make sure, and that's one of the things that we probably haven't gone far enough, but that's why we have discussions now about online harms bill and those kind of things. You do have to make sure that you get those power balances right. But I'm not sure that the unions would be the right route to correct.”

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  9. “Well, you cannot have unions running countries because they're not elected, right? You need to have the people who are elected. That's what everyone gets to vote for should be running a country.”

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  10. “I learned that actually the people who were commenting on behalf of the country of what was going to happen and were commenting on the election and who they were going to work with and who they weren't were all the union barons. It was quite astonishing. They were all the commentators. They didn't have politicians. They didn't have the leaders of parties. They had the union barons sat there saying, oh, you know, well, if this one comes on, this is what I'll be doing. The country almost seemed at that point like it was being run and held to ransom by the union. So the union power had gone way too far.”

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  11. “When you're not that political, you feel you need to catch up because everybody around me actually, most people on the Labour side and the Conservative side. No, their politics has come all the way back from student unions. We're talking about unions because I worked in a car factory. Their politics were shaped by student unions. So there's a whole piece of me that, you know, I didn't have the same experience. So I do go back.”

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  12. “I think what you're probably ignoring is actually what it was like before. I was quite astonished. I was watching some old election programs in the 70s and even in the 60s. Recently.”

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  13. “Well, the management hadn't changed, the environment had changed, the economic factors had changed, the industry operating model had changed, the management was the same, but if you want to keep the jobs, if you want to keep in business, you have to change. That is something that, I mean, I've done nearly 30 years in business, you mentioned that I'd worked for a long time. That is something that is a constant. If you want to keep competitive and you want to grow and you want to keep the business and the jobs here and you want to grow the businesses here, change is a factor.”

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  14. “Because they have sometimes in conditions. I mean, you see this now, right? We've seen it with some of the other, particularly maybe the rail strikes, where there's a shift in things, technologies change, the way you do things change. When you try to change working practices, it's difficult because people, they get used to the working practices.”

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  15. “Well, actually, the changes they refuse to make led to job losses, so they didn't really get that. But I think what they were worried about is some of the working practices that they'd negotiated over the years, they'd negotiated sort of extra money for this or something else for that. So they wanted to...”

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  16. “What was happening actually globally was there was a change in the car industry just in time was being brought in to help make the whole process more efficient. There's a lot of money tied up, a lot of working capital tied up in parts that went always the right parts. So they were changing the way that you basically produced cars to make us more efficient, to be able to compete with other places around the world. But when I started, there was a lot of things that needed to change to be competitive for us to remain competitive in the industry, to keep the jobs here. And that required changes in the working practices. And what I saw was the unions just refused to engage effectively. They would not change the working practices. They were going out on strike.”

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  17. “What happened was started work at 16, 84 in the car industry. And you'll remember at the time there was a lot of changes in manufacturing during that period.”

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  18. “No, not really. He was the office manager. So, what he would do is if he were going to build a road, he'd be the guy who'd go, he'd get the land sorted out, get the caravans they all lived in caravans, get the labor sorted out, get the planned machinery equipment sorted out, manage the budgets. So he was that part of it. I mean, he started work himself when he was 15, I think, and he kind of worked his way up for that. He worked for McCalpine most of his life. And that was where he was on the...”

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  19. “Well, that's what I wanted to do engineering, and it wouldn't be car mechanics, it would be more design, car design or process design, that kind of stuff. And you're fine.”

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  20. “All of my grandparents were Labour, and most of my family and friends are Labour. So I definitely grew up, let's just say, you know, the whole sort of essence of this show is disagreeably. Well, that's in my DNA because if not, nobody, I wouldn't have any friends or family members left. So I very much understand other people's viewpoints. But I did come to my own viewpoint. I didn't just follow what everybody else does. I basically came to my own viewpoint. And I think I suppose where I first started to become political and I wouldn't describe myself as political, you know, or from a political family at all was when I started work and I started work, as you said, age 16, everybody pretty much left our school. 92% left without the four or five GCSEs or older.”

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  21. “Well, at that point, I didn't really know what was causing it. I could just see the impacts of it because I was so young. Probably I had more of an idea in the next minor strike, which my granddad was a minor. So he gave me his views on that as well.”

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  22. “Well, the first inkling I had of politics was probably the first minor strike. My granddad was a minor. We lived at that point in a mining village in Yorkshire. And the village, even though I was really young, I was four or five at the time, the village absolutely divided because some people had gone back to work, some people hadn't. And there was a pit in the next village to us, Kellingly Collingering. We live near there, and I went to school with basically people whose parents, dad's lodge, were minors. So I was very aware of that and quite scared about it because it seemed, it just seemed to blow families apart. You know, brothers weren't speaking, nephews and uncles weren't speaking.”

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  23. “Yeah, so I've got that on my office wall, and I've also got my granddad's miners lamp because one of my granddads was a minor.”

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  24. “Not at all, not at all. Although in my office today, I have my great grandmothers on my mother's side, lifelong membership to the Labour Party, the certificate, signed personally to her, thanking her for her service by Eric Og”

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  25. “Yep, growing up through the 70s, we actually moved around a bit because my dad worked as a office manager for McAlpines. So motorway construction. So he moved as we were building the M62, actually, we kind of moved along it. And my mum was a secretary. So in my early childhood, we did spend some time in Lancashire and in Yorkshire. And then we came back full time when I was about 10 to go to secondary school in Knowsley.”

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  26. “We're Catholics yet, and yeah, I guess it's a very working class area. I think it's been on the deprivation list probably all the time. And one of the things I actually found interesting when I first went into education, actually, is the apprenticeships and skills minister, was it was pretty much at the bottom of all the educational attainment lists as well. Not that you know that when you're growing up. I mean, you just are where you are and you only sort of look around you and, you know, you compare yourself to everyone around you. And everyone around me was pretty much the same, you know. So it's.”

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  27. “Right, well, I mean, that is a question I get asked a lot obviously growing up in Knowsley. So my dad is one of 13, 11 survival adulthood. So he's from a big family. My mum's just her sister. They both grew up in Highton, which is one half of Knowsley, Heighton and Kirby make Knowsle”

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