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Gregg Spiridellis

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  1. Oh, we're not supposed to talk about that party. Oops, it was off the record Anyway, Rob Goldberg, it was a great party. Anyway, Antiller Lurie and Chamoth. All right, Greg, it was great talking. It was fun. It was really thanks for joining the show. We love Jib Jab. I love Jib Jab for years. You guys are really, you just plug away. You run it out. Run for it.

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  2. Yes, that's true. That's a fair point. Anyway, Greg. Most parties I go to. Jeez, a key. That's a party you were out last week. You're right. I did. I was like, I was dicks here. Yeah, well, obviously.

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  3. No, it was. That was a great exchange. I wanted it to keep going. I thought about I should create another, like, not De Costolo Twitter account right now to inject myself into that conversation to keep it going.

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  4. A joke. She was trying to explain a racist rant. I love how they have a device that they, the sort of hard, hard right, then the device they use is they capitalize every fifth word. And that makes their point. I know what I said. It's like, well, I can't think of how to do this more articulately. So I'll do all caps every fifth word. And that'll really sort of make

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  5. I love the way I watch. What did you think of Barney? Ask Barney. No, I never liked Barney. So we create a show around making some

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  6. It's, yeah, it's like a really fun. What we saw was DreamWorks and Pixar nailed creating feature films that parents really enjoyed as well. And if you had young kids and you were watching television, you wanted to bang your head against the wall. I saw this opportunity.

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  7. Oh, it's a show show. Yeah, it's our first television show that we've produced. We're in season two. It's got special guests like Snoop Dogg and Ed Norton and Christina Applegate. So we're pretty just like a hip.

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  8. Yeah, so we have Storybots is a kid's business that we built, and it's a digital platform. It's basically Sesame Street for connected kids. And we have, in addition to hold digital property, we've got Netflix original show. It was nominated for six Emmys this year, a BAFT Peabody.

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  9. Oh, I'll have to watch that. I got to say, I just was watching all the new will and graces. There's such fucking pros. They're like just pros. I know that's a format, an old type of comedy format, like the sitcom, but it's like. Perfect. Know it's beautiful. Why are you laughing at me like that?

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  10. And it just blew me away. I mean, yeah, for an hour and a half, he's just got these incredible narratives and he's just such an amazing storyteller. And he's been out of the game for a decade and just came back and just nailed it. Oh, I'll have to watch it. I gotta say.

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  11. Mine is a person, Julie Louise Reyfess. I don't think there's anybody that's got better comic timing or delivery on the planet right now. I just think she's consistently, you know, Show after show year after year gets better and better and better.

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  12. You can, but yeah, they've been around for a little while and it still holds. And again, that format is so genius. It can apply to every single subject matter from Donald Trump to, you know.

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  13. Well, I mentioned earlier, I think bad lip reading right now is the top of my watch list. Just, again, it's from my kids. It's what I'm watching. Bad lip rating. Bad lip reading.

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  14. Maybe everyone's got one thing, one joke in them that can actually now. Yeah. And that's great. That feels great. All right.

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  15. And they also make it more accessible to everyday people. So, like, where's comedy going? Like, you don't have to be an Eddie Murphy or, you know, someone who's got consistent genius that you can tell long-form stories and keep people.

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  16. I like 280. But these constrained formats and these constrained platforms, they enable and in some ways even foster sort of new ways of thinking about things that are funny and new ways of thinking about creativity and comedy.

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  17. No, I love 280. I think it's great. I said when we were the first testing, and my sense was, well, look, they wouldn't be testing this publicly already with a broader audience if they didn't already know it was something that great experimental results. I think what actually happened was 940.

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  18. Damn it, Twitter. She didn't probably say damn it. And then she says, and then I figure out how to narrow it, don't shorten it to 140. It's way, it's better. It's like a funnier joke. It's better. It's like lighter. And I think that's true. Constrained publish, which, by the way, that's what was so great about Vine. You got six seconds. Here's what's going to happen. It's going to autoplay and it's going to loop. You have six seconds. And people dove into that constraint and built, you know, entirely new personalities and people you'd never heard of before. And I think that's an amazing thing.

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  19. No, I think the truth. I mean, oh, I'll get to all name drop here. I have the good benefit to have a conversation with Sarah Silverman once about this, which she probably won't remember. And she said, this is back in the old 140 days, way before 280. She said, you know, if I write a joke on Twitter and it's like 145 characters and I'm like, ah, you know.

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  20. We've always thought about what we do is like a coloring book. Like, you can't give someone a blank canvas and have them be funny, but you can give them a coloring book and anyone can color in the lines. Dick's talked about this idea of constrained publishing.

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  21. Yeah, Texas is great. I mean, yeah, it's a great format. It's super fast. And that's why Twitter is so funny. Yeah, yeah. I want Vine back.

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  22. And does it have to be visual? Because I've noticed text is something I'm reading. Like there was one the other, like, there was this argument over the shitty medium endless and the woman who created. And this person was just a regular person. I think it was a regular person, said, you know, I think the real creator of the shitty media men list is shitty men in media. But also wise and funny, which is way great comedy is. Yeah, Texas.

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  23. I mean, I think that's where it goes, which is it's not about one person producing lots and lots and lots and lots of comedy. It's giving everybody tools to help them be funny. And then platforms raise to the top the things that one person might have had a spark of genius that raises to the top.

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  24. The political environment which we find ourselves really lends itself to the comedians on Twitter. I mean, they are. Yeah, yeah, fair. That's true. It's just dumb. I mean, it's just so perfectly set up for it.

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  25. All right, so we're going to finish up talking about what you think where comedy is going on. Where does it go? Does it become more like Logan Paul and just shock Jock kind of stuff or does it get more nuanced? I think recently Twitter's been really funny, for example. I laugh and laugh and laugh at Twitter all day, and I think that's why I'm so addicted to it, because it's not so much the bile stuff because I'm sick of that. Like the yelling, it's the comedy based on it

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  26. With Another example of creative genius. Like there's one in the Grand Canyon, you know, there's one. I mean, they did a great job with that.

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  27. I mean, the snap glasses, whatever, I don't even remember what they were called, spectacles, thank you. First, they were, you know, you couldn't get them. The pop-up store in Manhattan was lines around and around. Another example of...

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  28. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I find it hard to imagine some sort of like, you know, actually you have to figure out the fashion piece of it as well as the technology piece of it, like both really, really hard independently. And that Venn diagram is probably nearly impossible.

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  29. That'd be good Facebook Live. Go take their money. Go do a show. That's a good show. Carrie yelling at people. That'd be great. We just follow you around all the time. People who are about to get hurt. For their own benefit.

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  30. I know you do. I did one the other day. It scared the shit out of me. Someone should just follow you with a camera. I know. Get video of you screaming at people. This cameras got killed.

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  31. Well, that was just for a while at least. For a while, yeah. I think glasses. Anything I've got to put it take an effort into doing unless I really want something, I'm not going to put on a pair of glasses or a big headset or anything.

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  32. I think he's right. I think you're right. I think it's the phone. It's so easy, especially with AR being really working well on the phone now. It's so easy and ubiquitous. It's just easy to develop for and it seems like it won't be that way for a while. Well, just for a while at least for a while.

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  33. I think it's through the, I mean, for me, the foreseeable future is through the phone. Yeah, when you're doing this production

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  34. All that sort of thing. Where do you imagine people are going to be watching this? Is it going to be glasses or where would people, like we could sit there with glasses on and just laugh to ourselves?

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  35. But it was funny Come up. It was AR ish. It was AR ish. Well, when the iPhone first came out, they had those special effects. So you could launch a missile on something.

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  36. Yeah, comedy also, I think Surprising funny things that you can do in any sort of environment. Like if you can understand the context of a live camera, you could actually, I think, create create lots of funny gags around stuff. Not long form, but just like things that pop that make you laugh and you're on and you're on to the next thing. It jibes with that.

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  37. I love AR. VR is kind of outside of our wheelhouse. I think that's more in the gaming space. I find it fascinating. But AR, I think, is really interesting. It turns the world around you into a canvas. So you could think of comedy.

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  38. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think I'd be surprised you can't copy the tools and just kind of throw a lot of people say, oh, what do you just get like hire some college kids to like make the content? No, like, no, this has got to be you've got to lead with this. The tools should follow the content not the other way around.

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  39. Yeah, the interesting thing is everyone copies the features, but no one's captured the magic that I think that when they released.

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  40. Except that he's in trouble, though. He's considered to be in trouble. But what's interesting is that that's the story narrative around Snapchat. And yet everybody copies him, which is really interesting. It feels like, what's that guy who made the car that everybody copied back in the day? Ford?

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  41. It like And you see people companies without the creative DNA copy all the features. Like you can get a mask anywhere, like the lenses. You can get those anywhere now, but it's kind of missing the point. You can't follow, I think, when it comes to content, like in formats. Like you have to get out ahead of it. You have to lean. You have to compete with Evan with great he's in trouble.

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  42. Because it was highly monetized. No, no, my problem was I saw all the content. I just didn't think, how do I take this content and build a communication platform? By the time I realized that, it was too late.

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  43. I mean, you know, I think he's a fantastic product thinker. He was the first person, and now it's sort of become a. To hear this Was the first person I remember saying to me. Was talking about comments on a feed, like comments on.

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  44. I don't know if it's, I don't know. I don't have the point of reference for up here, but so I'm sure, yeah, Los Angeles, I mean, you're around a much more creative community, but he's just, you know, he takes risks and he's realized that communication isn't about utility at this point. It's about fun. How do you help people be fun and funny? Yeah, I'm...

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  45. He is so innovative. I spent some time with him recently. It's such a, I mean, he can be a very difficult, you know, as they all can, but I have to say, every conversation with him I find fascinating because it's actually creative. And I think it's because he's in Los Angeles. I'm not sure what it is. Like, do you find that when you're...

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  46. Exactly. I want to just sit there. But that's what Evan Spiegel's done incredibly well, in my opinion. He's realized that communication platforms don't have to be commoditized. Like you can actually make communication platforms better with really great content. And what's amazing to me is no one else has like figured that out, you know, no one else is trying.

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  47. No, we're all on iPhones. But no, I'm using the emojis, the bit emojis, because I have an excellent Bitmoji of myself, and it drives my kids crazy. And they're like, mom, you're so uncool. And then I send them 80 of them. Yeah, exactly. I want to just sit there.

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  48. Email some incredible thing. And a few years ago it was mom using emoji in text. And I think these just, it takes time for these consumer behaviors to set in, but iMessage is a great problem.

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  49. We're always ahead, not only at bad markets, but also in distribution. People would say to me in 04 in this land, the thing my brother and I heard more than anything was you're never going to believe this. My dad emailed this to me. Like unbelievable, my dad's on.

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  50. Yeah, people don't think of it. I'm going to yell at my kids on my text message that I'm in and I'm out, right? There's a whole now Apple just updated it so the icons for platforms are there. Yeah, so I think people are going to start using more. But that's the way it's always been. When we did this land in 04.

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