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Hansa Bergwal

lines on the record: 58
first: 2019-04-24
most recent: 2019-04-24
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Yeah, that's from a poem about grief. Yeah, oh, it is. That's right. It's no longer a poem. So talk a little bit about the Bhutan, the concept of Bhutan. Explain that to. So what I liked about it is this was like a folk saying for everybody, like not just for monks or serious meditators, just if you want to be a happy person, do this five times a day. And it seemed to me like, hey, they're making a claim on truth here. Like this works. Explain why you think that is. Because, I mean, it's the saying. Like, if you want to be happy. Think about this five times a day. Why do I think that makes people happy?”
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“The calm meditations, the yeah, I just think, you know, sometimes when things hop cultures and go from one place to another, we sort of take what we're most comfortable with and leave out the rest. That's pretty natural. But the risk of that is sometimes you leave out one of the most important pieces. Right, right, absolutely. So, anyway, so you were doing this PR firm. And I was just really interested in this stuff. I came across the Bhutanese formulation, which seemed really simple and programmable, which is just think about it five times a day. Right. Sounded like a lot, but it sounded like the Bhutanese things people don't. I just want to say the quote I just got, which is one of my favorites. I've gotten it before, trying to remember you as like carrying water in my hands a long distance.”
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“Like Branola, stuff you buy stuff downstairs at Vox Media that they give to the millennials, but go ahead. And so I have a lot of independence. I just want to say I just got a thing from WeCroak. Don't forget you're going to die open for a quote. Anyway, go ahead. That's my favorite thing. Don't forget you're going to die is my favorite thing. But go ahead. Yeah. So I was running my own business, was interested in all of these meditation things. And I was just like, hey, I'm not doing this. I probably should be. And no one else I know who's sort of on this sort of bandwagon of mindfulness is talking about death. This seems like it's a problem. Why was that? Why? Because it's not, mindfulness is more.”
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“How you do mindfulness. So you were an entrepreneur? Give me your, where were you? Where are you from? I've been an entrepreneur for about six years, and I have a PR business that I still have that mostly does work in natural foods. It's a small boutique agency. Natural foods.”
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“Yeah, well, it started really because I'm a meditator and have been for a little while. And death recollection meditations are just part of what meditation has been supposed to be about. So going way back thousands of years, this practice of different ways of recalling your mortality and death have been part of mindfulness and meditation techniques taught in many different ways for a long time. Everything from meditating in charnel grounds, which are places where bodies decompose to get a sense of like while you repeat mantras like my body will be like that decomposing body one day. And there's also stories of the Buddha using his actual death as a teaching moment to say, hey, look at me. You know, this will happen to you too. This is absolutely important. And I even read, you know, some old texts that stated that of the 40 different kinds of meditation, there are only two that are always beneficial, the cultivation of kindness and the recollection of death. So this stuff is supposed to be central, like right, like central trunk current of.”
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“We'll also talk about the problems with how most people think about their mortality and the way Silicon Valley is trying to cheat death by hacking it. Hansa, welcome to Rico Decode. Thank you so much. And actually, co-founder of Luke Rogue and Thomas is out on the West Coast. Okay, cool. So give me your background. I want to know how you got to this. It is my favorite app. It is. I talk about it all the time and I post it. The quotes are fantastic. I want to sort of get a sense of the entire business because there's been a lot of interesting mortality stuff going around Silicon Valley these days. They're in a much more grave, so to speak, point of view lately because there's things have not turned out as well. Now obviously getting older and things like that. So talk a little bit about your background and how you got to create this.”
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“Intentionally designed it to have no advertising and no social media hooks. We were looking for something to basically bring us back to ourselves. We resisted every other bell or whistle we could possibly add and got emails, by the way, from people saying like, you're doing it wrong. You could 10x your amount of downloads if you would just have a button to link it to Facebook and Twitter. And we were just like, okay, but we're not going to do it.”
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“I am Kara Swisher, editor at large of Recode. You may know me as a mightily morbid media mogul, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today in the red chair is Hansa Bergwal, the founder of WiCrogue, which is my favorite app that I absolutely love, and I talk about all the time, and I post pictures of it every day. The app sends you five invitations to stop and think about death. The app is inspired by the Bhutanese folk saying to be a happy person one must contemplate death five times daily. One of the things that makes us most unhappy is we tend to get caught up in things that don't matter. We tend to get caught up in an angry voice or in minute or in stress or in tons of things that ultimately aren't that important to us. And when we remember our mortality, we can take a deep breath and just go, oh, I don't have to think about this. I don't have to engage. I don't have time for this. Bergwell says he used to struggle with tech addiction. He and his co-founder in”
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