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  1. I mean, you know, let's face it, my optimism comes from the fact that we have no idea what we did to deserve being here. So every day is kind of like it's a bit of a gift, right? And the more you can remember that, the more I think the better off we are.

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  2. That's all we can do. And I don't think that has to be. It turns out I'll go through my life, and hopefully I'll have a long and healthy life. And I don't think I'll ever have served in public office, but hopefully continue to have more and more impact in a good way over time.

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  3. I would not have my hand up today. I thought when I grew up, I really believed that public service was the ultimate expression of how you make a difference. That is no longer true. But it's not because our system is so broken, it's so bad. It's rather that we have created all sorts of opportunities for people to really make a difference globally outside of political institutions. And I've devoted my life to that professionally. And I think it's incredibly important, right? And maybe people don't agree with me all the time. Obviously, that's fine, but they do know that I really care about what I'm doing. I'm trying to get better over time.

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  4. I think my teacher's name was Miss Kritikos. She was Greek. And she was asking us, we were talking about the elections, and she was asking us who wanted to be president. And she was talking about what it meant to be president. I remember raising my hand, of course, and everyone's talking. I think, how cool it would be. And then all of a sudden, Ian, well, why would you want to be present? And I looked around and I realized that I was the only person that had my hand up, which did not make any sense to me at the time.

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  5. Live in Los Angeles. Yeah, I know. But still, I mean, you know, you got an accent, and I mean, you know, you're global. We're four years old, you Botswana, I write that whole story. I mean, the fact is that you've managed to build something global. Without promoting irresponsible lies and hatred and dislike. And I don't think you're bad for people, right? And we need more of that. Look, I mean, I think about when I think about where power is coming from, it's not just tech companies. It's also people outside of established political force. When I was a kid, here's what we're talking about. I was in second grade.

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  6. Just choose a side. That's right. Part of my life that resists this is that my view is that if you hold the same opinions as the world is changing, you will be wrong.

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  7. And it's random It's overwhelmingly friendly. Maybe, you know, I think the digital world is not really a human world. And that's why it's so much more important to do more lives, just get out there, also do more long-form. The more that we can do to resist the algorithm, the better we'll be as a planet. The better we'll be as a species.

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  8. They really welcome minorities or are they bots? Are they radically created? When you and I are on the street and people come up to us.

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  9. It's about being authentic to who you are. I mean, you and I may not have exactly the same values. We may not have the same priorities. But if you're being honest about yourself with your audience, about what matters. You're doing that through your podcast, your conversation. It's about never selling out when you do that. It's about never pulling back and saying, oh, no, that might irritate someone, so I'm not going to say that's not who you are. You can't do that. Right? Because again, that's what mainstream media does, and that's why they're in trouble

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  10. What no one's a villain of their own story, the one thing I would tweak of what you just said. You said because you're independent, you have the opportunity. To do what you want and to say what you want and to interview whoever you want, handle you. I think you have the obligation. In this environment, independence is a responsibility because there are so many people that are not in your position or my position that aren't independent, that can be fired, and they do not have the same opportunity. And we can't be angry at those people. We have to recognize, and if you can't be fired, we have an obligation to be out there and above the 50% of people that are going to hate you for whatever it is.

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  11. Sitting here, we're having a conversation with each other. I've never met you before. We know a bit about each other, but we're having a real conversation. That's a humane conversation. As soon as it gets intermediated by algorithms, as soon as you get programmed into a lane, we become much more inhuman. And I worry, that's why I hate prediction markets. The idea that we're going to, instead of looking at our political institutions as things that we built that serve us, instead we create a casino out of them, and we only care about whether we're in or out of the money that human beings don't operate that way. Companies that want to line their pockets make us work that way. We're being forced away from being our better selves. We need regulations and governance models and companies that help us be more of our better selves.

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  12. And I worry the most about that. I worry the most about. People getting programmed. I'm not worried about artificial general intelligence. I'm worried about human beings becoming more computer-like. When you spend all of your time on your smartphone, that is a computer programming a human being. And we're acting more like the computer when we know that we're not like that. We know that we're more like who we are over the last few hours.

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  13. See how there isn't. I mean, I don't see how you allow human beings to create the kind of tools that we have and not have the ability to use them for good. The big stories of the world over the past 50 years, my lifetime, those big stories have been about growth. Those big stories have been about how human beings are living for longer with better education and better health care and more wealth and less starvation and less poverty. Those have been the big stories of the last 50 years. Now, you can say maybe it's a blip, but actually when you look at humans' history on the planet, it's generally moved towards more capacity. We've just had a couple of really bad episodes.

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  14. In most senses, the word. But technologically, one could imagine that we're developing the tools that will help us move in that direction if we wish to.

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  15. Do that anymore. So we need more global governance, we need more forums that bring everyone together, not to divide us apart. We're not heading in that direction right now.

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  16. Whatever, right? It's them. I'm saying this is something that is necessary for humanity. But when I looked at our Temis going around the moon, we're looking down. I don't see borders. I see 8 billion people. I mean, if anyone that came down that wasn't being shot up from the Earth and came down, anyone that came down to the earth would look at us and they say, oh, look at this. 8 billion people, they don't see borders, right? And the first thing they would learn if they learned how we actually operate with our 8 billion people is, wow, you guys, given the technology you're developing, you have nowhere near adequate governance for 8 billion people. You guys are all divided into and all of these short-term decisions you're making that are so inefficient. And you're going to destroy yourselves. That's what they'd say. That's what they say. And I say that as a person who is a citizen of the country that created the United Nations because we understood the last time we almost destroyed ourselves in a world war, we can't.

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  17. Like a different species. That's unacceptable. We can't allow humanity to develop that way. So we have to spend the money to ensure that everyone has access. We aren't close to that.

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  18. Going to be a gap between people that act like empowered human beings, hybrid individuals that have AI as a principal relationship and can deploy that knowledge and people that we won't even treat as human beings.

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  19. Stability Board that is governed by technocrats, by people that have an independent capacity to identify threats to the systemic environment, the AI environment, that we need to work that can communicate that to the people that have power and that can immediately attack and address it. That's the second thing we need. We don't have that yet. The third thing we need is we have to have an ability to fund AI for people that otherwise would not be able to take advantage of it. We've got half of Africa that doesn't have electricity. The gap between people with electricity and people who don't have electricity is going to be a hell of a lot worse when it's AI.

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  20. Financial markets, we all need the financial markets, right? We need them systemically. When there's a financial crisis, the whole world comes together to get out of the financial crisis. And it doesn't matter if you're capitalist or communist. The People's Bank of China, the European Central Bank, the Bank of England, the Fed, they all work together because they are first and foremost technocrats who understand that we need the markets to function. You need something like that for AI. You need an AI stability board so that whenever there is a model that creates a danger to us globally, like anthropic just did last week, that model is dangerous to all of us globally because any software with a potential bug in it is findable by that model and it can be exploited. That's an incredibly dangerous weapon. So we don't want everyone to have that. So you need at scale because everyone's going to develop this stuff. You need an AI stability board like the financial

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  21. I want three things. I want three types of governance. First, I want to make sure the United States and China start to have AI arms control conversations. When we were fighting the Soviets, there were no arms control discussions until after 1962, Cuban missile crisis. We almost blew up the entire world. Super dangerous, with much, much lower levels of technology. And then after that, we said, oh, maybe we should have a hotline between the two leaders. Oh, maybe we should have deconfliction. Maybe we should not invest in certain areas. Maybe we shouldn't try to develop Star Wars defense, for example. Maybe we should have some arms control agreements that limit what we do so that it's safer. We desperately need that between the Americans and the Chinese. That's number one. Second thing we need.

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  22. And commodity is right because Altman talks about you're going to need to pay for intelligence the way you pay for water. Paid for gap. And that average American hears that and goes, what, what? I'm going to have to pay for intelligence? That feels like something we have free will over. Suddenly you don't. Suddenly a company has control over that.

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  23. In a democracy, sometimes democracies go bad, but what we see frequently is pushback against people that are kleptocratic, but it's people that put themselves above the system. And we've seen that in many cases in many democracies all over the world.

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  24. It doesn't happen everywhere. I mean, let's face it, we've got 25 million people in North Korea that have been ruled by a cult figure who they essentially worship for decades now. So history doesn't necessarily tell us that the story always goes well.

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  25. Great opportunity, but most Americans don't believe that applies to them anymore. And you asking me all these questions about AI? The answer is very simple. Give these people the opportunity to create a dream for themselves and their families in their own countries. If they don't have that, they will eventually revolt against you.

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  26. Each of these systems have challenges. But the problem comes not in the nature of the system, but in when they become extreme. Americans today want a new deal, whatever that new deal looks like. And Trump won because of that. He won because he positioned himself as the outsider that would make sure those things happen, right? He was the guy that was going to end the wars. He was the guy that was going to invest in the United States. America first, not these other countries first. People like that. Take care of your people. That's what they want. People are voting for very simple things. They want to be taken care of. They want to have opportunities for themselves and their families and their communities. They don't want to feel despair. That's what the American dream was all about. That's why my grandparents came here. My grandma, Armenian, you know, fled, her family fled the genocide. She came on Ellis Island. That's why I'm here. I came and I started a company that had...

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  27. Because nobody is looking out for them. Then they get angry and then they lash out. The Chinese system where the state actually captures the private sector. And they say what the private sector can and can't do. And frequently they own the private sector, state-owned enterprises, right? And that system drives an enormous amount of growth over the long term, but the people have no say over what is and what is not allowed. And that creates a lot of dissent and this lying flat and we're not a part of the system and the solution. Then you have the Europeans. And the European system is very oriented towards we want to make sure that the social contract works for the citizens. We're very interested in like having all of the benefits that people need. But we can't afford them because our system is so heavily regulated, so anti-entrepreneurial that we don't drive the growth that would be necessary to keep paying for the people, right? So obviously.

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  28. So there are three systems out there, right? Broadly speaking. One system, the United States system, most power in the hands of the private sector, so much so that they're able to capture the regulatory process, write their own regulations. That turns out that system drives an enormous amount of growth and wealth. The problem is that lots of average Americans do not benefit from it.

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  29. He's saying, I think the Democrats are going to win. Oh, well, I'll be fine. I'm still worth a lot of money. But I'm not going to do anything to actually help facilitate this. If the people that are most capable of being aware of these challenges and of addressing them, Instead all in winner take all mode, then obviously we're going to have a breakdown in society.

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  30. I don't think that you go from everybody has a full time job or aspires to a full time job to universal basic income in a year. I don't think that happens. But I could easily see pilot programs that say instead of a five-day work week in the following areas that we think are going to be disrupted, it's going to be a four-day work week or three-day work week. And we're going to pay you the same amount of money. But that additional day every week is going to be on AI training that will allow you to have a job either to be more effective in your existing job because the only the people that know how to deploy these tools are going to have a job another three or five years or will allow you to transition. But you've got to start spending the money on that now. And that guy that you had that conversation with, I've been watching him publicly. He's not part of the solution.

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  31. That the system is deploying these technologies in inhumane ways. It's allowing the benefits of the opportunities to be captured by a small number of individuals, a small number of companies that write their own rules and don't care about people that are getting angry. So when you ask violence is the wrong thing. But if you're seeing that people are getting so angry that they're starting to do things that they see the only way that they think that they can respond is outside of the legal framework. It's not by voting for somebody new, but it's by mass action or even violent action than the politics are really broken.

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  32. See, and again, I focus on politics. And if we blow ourselves up, it's not going to be because of technology. If we blow ourselves up, it's going to be because of people and politics.

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  33. Well, I mean, first of all, these technologies are already doing extraordinary things in improving productivity and in reducing waste. I mean, recycling doesn't work very well. But with AI, you can recycle in a way that would allow you to actually get that trash product back into a productive format. Who wouldn't want the ability to make micro adjustments in the way that an airplane is navigating real time because of AI that reduces fuel consumption by 10% or improves agricultural use? In Ethiopia, you've got over 100 million people and they don't know what to plant and where and when. Suddenly you optimize for that. They have cheaper food. These are amazing things every day. I see uses for these technologies in companies around the world that blow my mind.

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  34. God, no. But it's not surprising. And we also had the CEO of United Healthcare gunned down a year ago just a few blocks from where you and I are having this conversation right now. There is general anger at the elite. And it's true that the wealthiest people in the United States right now happen to be those tech owners

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  35. Figures are that are going to respond to that. I don't think that person today exists in the political spectrum. I haven't seen that person.

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  36. And they felt like the world was moving away from them. They saw robotics and automation on their factory lines. They saw free trade and jobs go into much poorer, much less expensive labor around the world, China especially, but India, other countries. They saw immigrants coming in, but you're not taking care of me and my family. So why am I letting that happen? You see this in Europe too. This is the Nigel Farage movement, like lots of stuff, right? They voted Trump in, not once, but twice, despite everything he is, everything he stands for they voted for. We haven't seen women with advanced degrees, urban and suburban, worried about their jobs and worried about their kids. And that wave of populism is coming. Absolutely in 2028. And that is AI is a very big piece of that. AI data centers and the rest. So in that regard, I agree that there's going to be a real political wave here. And I don't yet know who the political

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  37. They said that no jobs, energy prices going up, water prices going up, zoning looks horrible in their neighborhoods. They're growing like topsy, huge amount of investment. Everyone hates these things. I mean, Trump in the United States won on the back of a lot of men, many of whom had good jobs and were making good money, but they didn't necessarily have advanced degrees.

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  38. Unless they have to. So, unless there's a major economic downturn that gives them that excuse, I think it's going to take a lot longer. And I also think that social mobilization, Longshoreman in the United States, like said no AI, you're going to protect our jobs. And they were willing to actually demonstrate. They mobilized, and it kept AI out. There'll be a lot of resistance that will slow this process down. But what I do think is going to happen, I think you'll see it politically. I was talking to someone I know reasonably well, a senator, U.S. senator, who was saying, can't talk right now. And pro technology person, pro-business person, centrist, right? Someone you and I would recognize as such. Say, I can't talk about data centers. I've never seen people, my constituents so upset about an issue as they do about data centers.

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  39. And so the funny thing that video you showed me, most people in the Global South are very excited and enthusiastic about AI because they think it's going to give them tools to improve their human capital, to improve their opportunities. China, the Chinese are very excited about AI because they think that it's going to make their lives better. The Americans, the Europeans are not. They worry that this is actually going to undermine their jobs, particularly their white collar jobs. Their knowledge worker jobs. And what I think is going to happen politically, I don't agree that we're going to see massive unemployment in the U.S. next year. I think there's going to be much more friction. And most CEOs don't want to get rid of a lot of their workers.

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  40. Slightly terrifying, and yet it's also slightly empowering depending on what we decide to do with the wealth that comes from this. Because let's face it, most human beings do not want that work to be what self-actualizes

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  41. Looks to me like the work that they are doing is being monitored real time, presumably by some external source. You're going to suggest to me that the external source that's monitoring them is not a human being, but is artificial intelligence

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  42. And yet, in the last three months, Ukraine has actually taken territory back from Russia. How is that possible? Technology. Drones, right? They have become the most capable drone producer in the world at scale so much that when the Iranians were attacked by the United States and they counterhit, what do the Americans do? They called Zelensky. Remember the guy that didn't say thank you in the White House and they said, can we have your help with your drone technologies in figuring out how we combat Iran for our Gulf allies? technology is changing the world so fast. And it turns out that the biggest way it's changing our security in the economy is AI.

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  43. No. I mean, if what I just mentioned with anthropic, like if suddenly your systems are hackable by anyone that has access to this tool, your markets are going to go down. Your banks aren't going to work. Your data is going to be stolen. Imagine if the Russians have that capacity, what they would do with it. If the Iranians today had that capacity, what they would do with it, they will. These AI tools are becoming available to anyone with a laptop or a cell phone. So, I mean, suddenly, in the same way that the war in Russia, Ukraine, Russia is much bigger than Ukraine.

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  44. Also seve Again, it would be critical if we were talking about two years out. We're talking about this year and it's already April. It just happened, I would say severe, but my God underappreciate it because the amount of attention this gets on headlines. Compared to Iran or Venezuela compared to China is still tiny.

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  45. I think this is actually a big deal that also happens to be useful for entropics marketing, not least because Anthropic had just been in a big fight with the Defense Department. And the U.S. Defense Department saying we don't want these anthropic guys because they're woke, right? I mean, they refuse to let us used and deploy their AI in our targeting or our surveillance. So we're going to take them out of our system. Well, it turns out you can't afford to take these guys completely out of your system because what they're doing is too important for American national security. So the timing is convenient from that perspective. But this risk is real. And it's real because it needs to be deployed immediately to find these bugs and to patch them before other people have those tools because other people will have these tools in very short order.

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  46. It is inconceivable to me that a company that is this capable of raising money and this capable of talking to the markets is not going to have a communication strategy that is fully aligned with that. So, of course, there's marketing here, but this was a real risk. When you have Jerome Powell, the chief of the Fed, and Scott Bessant, the Secretary of Treasury, looking at this and immediately calling an urgent meeting of all the CEOs of the banks, saying we have to deploy this internally. And you have JP Morgan. Jamie Diamond is by far the best at cybersecurity in terms of the big banks and the big U.S. institutions. And he considers this a fire-alarm fire. I take this very seriously.

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  47. Critical infrastructure, your power grid, water systems, anything with software. And not just like the things that a hacker could get to, but every bug that could be exploited. So it's so powerful that they couldn't release it because it would have been an immediate systemic risk to the global economy and our security.

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  48. I guess what they're saying. You and I have been talking about the US and China and traditional geopolitics. What I was saying is that increasingly the world is moving beyond geopolitics and that the most important new global leaders aren't countries. They're technology companies that are writing their own rules. I was looking how the Russian invasion of Ukraine that that war started not on the 24th of February, but the 23rd of February, when Microsoft found out about all of the cyber strikes that were hitting Ukraine and made the US government, the Ukrainian government aware of it. I look at Elon Musk and providing Starlink if it wasn't for that. I'm not sure that the Ukrainian government was going to be able to fight these guys on the ground. They wouldn't have been able to communicate. Zelensky might be gone. These were companies. The U.S. government at that point was scared about sending all the military support, but the companies were making a big difference. Now I see that these new AI tools

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  49. Coming up in November, I'd be worried, right? Because you can just imagine a situation where the Chinese being more short-term would say, well, look, the Americans are distracted with Iran. And the Europeans are distracted with Ukraine. Now is our time for Taiwan because we really want to get all that support. So let's Chinese aren't doing short term at all. They're doing long term. The Chinese are thinking for 10 years down the road, 20 years down the road, and they're investing that way. They're taking very little risk. They're making no regret moves to set themselves up long term while the Americans are doing all this short-term stuff, all this electoral cycle stuff. That's the worry. If the Americans, the biggest danger to the United States, not China, it's America. It's America getting in its own way and not investing in having the best products, the most competitiveness, the most attractive place to study, the most attractive place to live, the most attractive place to work.

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  50. It means that they can set the rules, they can set the standards, they can sell the products that you need them, that if they determine that they're going to shut you off your debt, right? I mean, think about what happened. The Europeans were so dependent on Russia for gas and for oil. And the Russians invade Ukraine. They want to shut it down. It destroys the European economy. The Americans are doing just fine. The Americans are building and get so many of their semiconductors from TSMC in Taiwan. I'm sure you've talked about that before in your show. Well, what happens if China decides that they want to cut that off? If they have that capacity, the Americans are really screwed. So you don't want to be in a position where one country, an adversarial country that you don't trust, have a good relationship with, suddenly produces all this stuff that you desperately need or your economy will fall apart. And yet that is the trajectory where President Lawson, if China, if China had elections.

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