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Isabel Behncke

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“So as a rule of thumb, again, grossly overgeneralizing, dimorphism indicates lack of monogamy. So again, maybe we shouldn't get into this because there are many nuances here. But in chimpanzees and bonobos, the male female size, females are a little bit smaller in both species and dimorphism might be a little bit more in chimpanzees namely you don't see these huge body size difference but there is a body size difference in humans is evident as well in the sense of like most males if you think of averages are taller heavier stronger than females and obviously they're exemptions but we're talking statistically”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Both species have the same sex ratio, around 50-50. And in terms of Tim is asking about dimorphism, so sexual dimorphism is, if you look at males and females, if roughly the body size and other traits are kind of similar, or whether you see big differences. So one example of huge dimorphism would be gorillas, like the males think of a male silver bag big, enormous guy and females much smaller or say”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm obviously saying it as a joke, but what I'm trying to illustrate here is that females' sexual choice is important and in Bonobos because of what was possible for them to happen given that they were able to form coalitions. Perhaps we see it more clearly.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's a great lyricist and he rapped the original species. When he was rapping about how sexual selection works and these processes of basically female choice, and he was showing gangsters and kind of a rap culture being all aggressive and she said, girls, you are selecting traits in males. So in order to create a better world, don't sleep with mean people.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Totally. Yeah. So, what I'm trying to get at is that I think you asked about the contribution of a wealthy environment. Why are Brunovo so nice? Is it because they have more fruit? I think that plays into it, but I also think it's a cultural niche construction, but also you have multiple levels of selection. I think what we see is that females have been selecting nice males and nice males get rewarded for being nice because females choose them. So what you see is that multiple feedback loops, the way of summarizing this better, I think was done by the rapper Baba Ringman when he was”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not typically. No, no, not typically. I meant, sorry, I should have been specific about that. What I wanted to say is that infanticide, as you're pointing out, happens in nature. And avoiding infanticide, the only thing that I'm saying is that avoiding infanticide, it's important for females. It's important.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Your child being killed is an awful thing. And so purely because of the time and energy invested in creating and maintaining this infant. So what I'm trying to get at is that the adaptations for female mammals that have to do with avoiding infanticide are important. So in that sense, choosing males that are nice males and not choosing males that will probably be in fanticidal is an important thing.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The fact that they were in a relatively wealthy environment, wealthy meaning a forest, a tropical forest with a lot of fruit and fruit has high in calories, then you can be in the same place. And this is where you get into the multiple feedback loops. Females in the same place, females hanging out with each other, social proximity, social proximity bonding, bonding alliances, alliances, we advance our own interest. What is our interest? Female mammals have two problems. Well, there are many problems, but one of them is being energetically expensive. And the second one is infanticide. So infanticide exists, it's relatively widespread. And so if you think I'm going to sound like a horrible person without heart, but if you think of your genetic investment, taking away love, what a terrible thing to say, obviously for a female mammal.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. Thank you. It's expensive to be a female mammal. So female mammals are typically constrained by resources. And so if you have an environment where there aren't enough resources Of mammals, the most basic thing is that they have to be on their own because there isn't enough food for everyone to gather, right? So, you know, not enough supermarkets can only feed, say, one female and her two babies, you're stuck on your own. If there is enough food, now you can go to a party. You can hang out with other females, right? And this is really important because I think what the social revolution for Bonobos was that female mammals were able to hang out together in order to form a bond, you need a very basic thing to happen. If you are a primate that doesn't bond online, you need to be in the same physical space because mammals bond through physical interaction. And so if an environment allows for females to be in the same place, you can afford that possibility. Not that it will always happen, but we think that in”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but that's a great point, actually. Just think, observe giraffes or any large herbivore. The relative period of uselessness in an infant between these kind of animals versus us or gorillas, chimps, bonobos, herbivorous, whether it's a giraffe or a horse or a deer, they get up and they start walking. They're still protected by the mother and of course fed by the mother. But our babies are useless for a very long time.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The invitation was the invitation. The point I want to make is that you can ask why is this happening in Bonobo, say, as opposed to other species? And the thinking is that the environment, the wealth in the environment played a very important role in the development of bonobos because let me backtrack a little bit into sociology 101. What are your main problems if you're a mammal? If you're a female mammal, typically female mammals are constrained by resources. Because being a female mammal is expensive calorically. You have to travel if you're lactating, if you're carrying babies. There's a lot of investment that female mammals have to do with procreation and carrying babies for sometimes a very long time because mammals have large brains which are in turn expensive to maintain. Babies can be useless.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“After procreation. Yeah. No, exactly. They are beautiful, magnificent males. This is not an example of a war of the sexes where you have, okay, females won the war of the sexes and these guys are like puny little guys on the outskirts of society. No, I can show you pictures, videos. They're magnificent. And I think also they have fun. They're playful. They're strong. But going back to the example you asked for, immediately this difference between kind of gunable females being empowered, they don't get raped, for instance. So female choice, well, female choice exists throughout nature, but rape can happen in some societies and some species in Bonobos. We have not observed rape. Males make like an invitation to mate, which is kind of a fun head bob. Gesture.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Selection pressures that work on behavior of social animals. So let me give you an example. So when you observe bonobos, immediately females, they stand out as being, as we would call them, empowered. And they seem...”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that definitely plays into it. But I also think that you have the niche construction element there, namely that cultural animals have dynamics of their own that are perhaps put in place in first place because of ecological conditions. But once they get going, they have their own weight, like a culture.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of months ago, very recently, I would invite everyone to read the work of Mark Moffat. Mark Moffat is also an aunt, biologist, the favorite student of E.O. Wilson, I'm Mark an explorer, another person in this tradition of doing theoretical work, thinking about animal and human societies, but combining exploration science and theoretical thinking. He published a book called Swarm. It's basically about human societies and he makes this wonderful point that in many respects the dynamics of ants informed us about our sociality, including war a lot more than we can see in other animals.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Rangham W R A N G H A M And his last book is called The Goodness Paradox, namely Why is it that humans are relatively good if we should, in inverted commas, given what we see in Champasis, be a lot more aggressive? And so I think all things that Richard covers about this topic are Incredibly useful, and he has been observing chimpanzees. Well, he worked with Jane. And so I can't recommend him more thoroughly. That was one. And then the second you mentioned war in ants, I think the recommendation there would be, and you had also mentioned EO Wil Wilson. Eo Wilson. The author of Concilience, he, naturalist and naturalist and very famous for sociobiology in 1964, namely combining social sciences and natural sciences and creating a bit of steer in the process. But his favorite student, he's alive today, the student, because Eo died.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you were talking about your conversation with Jane and the four year war and aggression in chimpanzees. The person to read and listen and follow about that work, kind of who is the modern Jane Goodle in the sense of following chimpanzee behavior and working on aggression, which is, of course, and the origins of war, which for a very obvious reasons is a very topical issue today is Richard Rangham. He is a British primatologist who has been at Harvard directing the Pan Lab for many years. He has many books. He's an incredibly creative”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As Conrad the writer, the author of The Heart of Darkness, described it because he sailed there, that's the origin of Heart of Darkness, in fact, he described it as a coiling snake. So think of the Congo River as this coiled, enormous coil snake that kind of goes, it's at the head of DRC. And DRC for context is the size of Western Europe. It's an enormous enormous country. So Western chimpanzees are northwest. See what I mean”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So Lake Tanganika goes north-south. It's like a very long and actually very deep lake. I think it might actually be one of the deepest lakes in the world, only after Baikal. I'm not sure. But west of that, you have gorilla populations. So the western chimpanzees are north. Again, think of DRC as this heart of Africa And then the river, the Congo River is on the upper bit.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that boundary and Lake Tanganika is in that boundary. So when you actually, when you climb the hills of Gombe, which are steep and it's hardcore, one reason to study Bonobos is that the Congo Basin is flat. But anyway, when you climb Gombe and they're like killer bees on the Tanzanian side, when you climb Gombe and you look down at Tanganyika, then you can see Congo. That is kind of the line that I'm trying to draw.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If they pull it up on a Yeah, so if you again look at the map of Africa and if you look at the heart of it, literally the heart of it, that is Zaire. DRC Democratic Republic of Congo to the right of that, you will find Gomebe, Tanzania, and Eastern Africa.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look at Africa, Central Africa, note where the Congo River is, which is kind of on the upper third bit of DRC, talking very broadly here, and then look west. And so Guinea and Cote d'Ivoire and all that area that is north of the river on the west.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are we going to handle the PR on this one, Dr. Lakey? Dr. Licky, we have a problem, Dr. Licky. Either we widen the definition of who is allowed to use technology or we change the meaning of being human, right? I hope that's in letters of note, by the way. I don't know if it is, but it should be, that telegram.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The eastern chimpanzee would be the chimpanzee that most people know because of Jane Goodall studies. So your gombe chimp. Your eastern chimp. And I think that's thank you for asking that question because, of course, for Jane, when she started studying these chimps and the things she observed, including the four-year war, Jane Goodall, after a while, she thought that chimposit, to begin with, there were like a nicer version of us. So I think this is inserted in a broader context of, of course, we are looking at ourselves by looking at these animals. And when she makes this amazing discovery, when she observes them using tools, and there's a famous anecdote she writes to Louise, Licky, who hacked the idea of her going there and saying, look, I know that the definition of human is where the only animal that uses technology, but I've observed these animals, namely chimpanzees, using and creating technology. So we have a problem.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anyone was subjected to the same pressure. I guess what our environment changes, we change. So for chimps and bonobas, it's the same. We can even speak of, say, Western chimpanzees have been said of having a more burnoble strategy in the sense of females have stronger bonds and they can be nicer and hunt less than eastern chimpanzees that hunt more and there's more events of aggression, etc.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, but yes, thank you. I think that's what's so cool about studying animals and about science that things are always more complex and have more variance and nuance. And as you understand more the animals, particularly when you're dealing with large brain, intelligent animals, like of course they're plastic, of course they change, of course not all the populations do the same stuff. Of course there's a huge variation according to which environments they're in. So then you can start making predictions and saying, well, if they're in wetter environments, if they're in richer environment, how does this drive behaviors like hunting and aggression on? But that's the domain of socioecology, which is the study of how social behavior changes according to environmental pressures. So having said that, I mentioned that because I think it's important to understand that we are also”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Both species hunt, chimpanzees hunt more than bronavos. That's the summary. And now let's dig into this. For years, the archetype was that chimps were mean, aggressive hunters, and Ronomos were like the nice vegan loving.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, yes, sorry. Chimpanzees. And so I think both species are incredibly flexible, but chimpanzees have a wider distribution and perhaps in terms of the dietary adaptations, they might be more flexible.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As a gross overgeneralization, chimps exist in a more varied array of landscapes. They can be in tropical forests, but also in drier environments, which probably is a chicken and egg thing. Can they be there because they're better at adapting? Or is it because they were north of the river that they actually adapted that way? What we know is what we find today. And so I think it's contingency. And, you know, sometimes they hunt. Sometimes they don't, depending whether they're in dry environments, they hunt more depending.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was probably this event was probably, but we're still discussing about it the formation, the geographical formation of the River Congo. The River Congo is an enormous river that in order for you guys to picture it, don't think of a river. Think more of like a moving lake. If anyone has visual images of the Amazon, the Congo is only second in size to the Amazon. It's really the Congo Basin and the Amazonian Basin are equivalent. Both of them are the lungs of our planet. So you have this enormous river and north of the river Congo, you have the distribution of chimpanzees. And south of the river Congo, you have Brenobos, which means that at the time and both species adapt and niche construct with their environment, Bonovo environment is a lot more More wet and tropical jungle than”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the word is contingency, evolutionary contingency, namely probably the evolutionary event that led to the speciation or these two species, speciation meaning what happens when you have an ancestral population of an ape that was the grandfather of chimps and bonobos, something happens and later down the river of time you have two distinct populations. One is Bonobos, one is chimpanzees.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, oh, for sure. It's at least one order of magnitude more. No, not two orders of magnitude. If you sum the three suspecies, I want to say around the million or less, but actually let me get back to you with the latest count.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is very difficult to have an exact number, but they would fill out a small stadium, maybe hopefully more than 10,000 and probably less than 60,000.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They have a lot of great applied work. Santa Fe Institute, for instance, I would suggest reading what they published in relation to understanding the pandemic from this point of view. I think this approach is incredibly enlightening.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The original book on this was published by John Odlins Me and Cavin Leyland, two mathematicians and naturalists broadly understood. And today I would point out to David Krakauer, who is the president of the Santa Fe Institute, and I think he himself in his thinking and just the work he does kind of embodies this.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For survival, now they might be very useful. And the other way around. So that's why I think that's a longer conversation. But the notion of cultural niche construction, I think it's exciting. It combines elements. Mathematical complexity theory, although I don't want to get in trouble with the mathematicians, I'm very scared of them. Go talk to the Santa Fe Institute people about this.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That just adapt to their environment, which I think was the old way of saying things. An organism is a thing that basically has to respond and adapt. And the revolution, I think, is that in niche construction, you go, organisms are also agents of their own change because by the process of living, they modify themselves, each other, and their environment. So if you think about other animals say humans, we not only modify our environments physically, but also we are cultural niche constructors, which means that we live in worlds that are also cultural by creating these worlds, then you have to adapt to them. If you have to adapt to them, that changes the feedback loop on your own existence. So that's why traits that 10,000 years ago would have not been very useful.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So far, yes, exactly. Great. So Darwin described how warms, earthworms are not only adapted to their environment, but also in the process of living. They modifying the environment they're in. So a warm travels creates borrows, it defecates. In doing so, changes the organisms that are available, changes the frequency of these organisms, also changes the pH of the soil, and so on, namely the activity of an organism modifies the environment in which the organism is in. And I mentioned the example of earthworms because it's a very basic, simple example. This is most obvious when we think about humans. Every organism on Earth is a niche constructor. Organisms are not passive things.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't want to get in trouble with the mathematicians, but I think a broad way of describing complexity is how things interact with other things. So it's in a way the study of structure. And that's why complexity combined with evolutionary theory is important because they are not only genetic information being passed, but Organisms exist within structures, namely societies, but also ecosystems. And these structures impose dynamics of their own, in turn that influence the organisms. Let me give you a specific example on how these two domains combine, the two domains being complexity and evolutionary thinking, which is going back to your question of what do I think is most interesting as a development today. It's niche construction. The concept of niche construction, are you familiar with this?”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And males have some advantages in that respect. Although technology also brings other possibilities. But it's actually now that I think about it, it's not such a bad example because you would say wide advantages would being funny actually bring? You know, you're spending cognitive energy in something, you're being silly, you're spending time and maybe you're distracted. Maybe if you're too distracted, a predator will get you. Females like it Well, that trait will get selected. And that works for feathers, you know, cleverness. There are many traits that you can go with. This looks like expensive and annoying. And in orderly colorful, but there are traits that evolve and get selected again and again because mates choose them.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, it's selected. Say Tim is funny and Tim gets to reproduce because he's funny. So it's right. One can hope. A boy can dream.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you know, Santa Fe Institute meets Darwin, meets Humboldt. And let me explain why. Darwinist and naturalists described the mechanisms by which new species arise, namely natural selection. He also described sexual selection. And then you might say, well, what's the difference? I remember a teacher saying, look at nature and look at any structure that seems useless. And then typically that will be a result of sexual selection, peacock feather versus a wings. Anyway, so Darwin described both. Sexual selection, natural selection.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of course, I don't know what these mathematicians specifically are referring to, so I would need to assess it. But I would mention one thing. I think the most exciting revolutionary aspect of the last, let's call it 50 years, is a sort of integration between Darwin and complexity.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Whether it was because he was German and also Humboldt as a young man had spent time in Jena with Goethe and with the creatives and poets of the early Romantics. And so I think that experience really opened his mind to the future scientists that he would become.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is that when he would puke and get seasick, which I think it was good because then it meant that he had to go in London, that's a different topic. But the point is that his writing, his voyage of the Beagle Diaries and citing... Her humbled saying thank you if it weren't for you, I would have not taken this voyage, which is amazing how this kind of lineages and of influence. So you have on one hand Humboldt that invents inverted commas the modern concept of nature because you really invents the concept of ecology, how things are interrelated. So the field of complex systems, the field of ecosystems as complex systems I really think takes a lot from Humboldt because, and this is important, see, the British tradition is about taxonomy and organization in boxes Lineaos.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And there are several books about von Humboldt, but in Andrea Wolf's research, she brings together the adventure, the naturalist, and also the influences. So what I think to me is amazing as a scientist is that we all know about Darwin and we can see his image. Immediately you go like, oh yeah, old guy with beard. But who was humbled and why we don't actually know more about him? Humboldt was the direct intellectual father of Darwin. Darwin was reading Humboldt's diaries of his explorations in South America. And when Darwin gets invited to Gonde Beagle, he was actually thinking of Humboldt. And in Patagonia, when he's actually called, he's a very bad sailor. He hates being on board, which is another topic.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“See you when I see you. Exactly. I have my own funds. But I mean, it's a longer story. And if you want to read about this, I would really recommend the most fantastic book I've read in the last few years by Andrea Wolff. It's called The Invention of Nature.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, exactly. So it's like you're going to give me grandchildren that have a certain position, right? Yeah. And he's like, I'm going to Venezuela, mom.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, no, right, because she was like socially. I don't say snob, but ish. No, she was high society, right? Aristocra. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First, the new world, in a nutshell, the excitement of the new world. First of all, he needed to get out of Europe because his mother had very high hopes for him as a civil servant. So when his father died, he had an inheritance and he decided to spend it funding his own adventure.”
2022-06-01 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #598: Primatologist Isabel Behncke on Play, Sexual Selection, and Lessons from Following Bonobos for 3,000 Kilometers in the Jungles of Congo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT