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  1. Minimum, yeah, it's basically their, let's just call it basketball, football, baseball, all wrapped into one. It is their

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  2. Probably end up talking about Korea later. And maybe we can just give a sneak peek. I know we're going all over the place, but I remember you said to me at one point, and please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, if each country could field as many athletes as they wanted for a given sport, that Korea would probably place one to a hundred at the...

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  3. Of a level, there are many things that allow you to do that quickly. It's kind of like, okay. Let's get you down the hill on a snowboard. Yeah, within a week we can probably get you down some easy terrain on a snowboard. Okay, now you want to compete in the X games? Yeah, all right. Well, good luck. That's going to take a long

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  4. Target size, right? The kind of kill zone on whether it's a deer or an elk, certainly a lot larger on an elk, but you can get to a point if you have some kinesthetic awareness very quickly, I would say within a week for a lot of folks, maybe.

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  5. And training. So, we're going to come back to your trajectory in a second, pun intended. But let's mention that briefly because I didn't really fill in the gaps. The compound bow that I used for hunting was fantastic. I thought it was a great transition for me because I was more familiar with rifle and so on. It was actually a fantastic transition. And I would hunt once a year, let's just call it something like that. Use everything, eat everything for those people wondering From rifle and so on to compound was actually quite easy I needed to brush up on a few things, obviously, learn some technical details, think about back tension a bit, et cetera. But for someone with a sports background, it was pretty straightforward. And if you're thinking about the

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  6. Traditional bow, yeah. Yeah. And when you go to your local range, which we'll get to and I recommend, you can try all of these different options in a lot of places. And if you can only start with Compound, great. Maybe you that's where I started. Maybe you stay with Compound. And at the highest levels, they do some absurd, absurd things. Yeah. Actually, I just have to give credit where credit is due. So also have had some fantastic conversations with Joel Turner, Shot IQ, his son, Bodhi. Do you want to just explain what he's capable of doing? Sure.

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  7. Yeah, right. So eight or 12 pounds when you're at anchor, and to define that, that's when you have your very simple terms, your hand that is attached to the string, whether you're using fingers or a mechanical release, when your hand is kind of glued to your face and you always glue it to the same place. Set up the rifle barrel, so to speak. And that's one element of what makes compounds so interesting. The second is when you have these additional mechanical aids, let's just say the speed of the arrow.

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  8. Yeah, pulleys. Pulleys and cams. So it's like when you are in a gym using a machine pushing or pulling, there's a strength curve. So the amount of exertion required changes over the course of that full range. And in the case of a compound bow, very similar. And what makes it such an efficient, amazing hunting tool, there are a few factors. One is In the beginning, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, and then there's a letoff. So you might have, I'm making up these numbers, but 60 pound draw weight, and then you're holding, what would you say?

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  9. Right, exactly. So now you have this laminated bow and you see that all over the world, all over the world. And there are different iterations of that. You've got the slightly different idea, but horsebow, which of course I'm in love with. That's a whole separate podcast and so on and so forth. So if you imagine like a Robin Hood bow in your mind, I think it was a recurve in maybe the cartoon at least, made out of fancier materials, whether it's carbon or aluminum or something else, then you have the idea of what I'm shooting when I'm doing, say, Barebow. And then a compound has various cams. You can think of them almost like cams on a weightlifting machine.

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  10. It's really been tremendous. So I have this not so secret agenda of getting as many people as possible who are listening to try Archery, which, by the way, is very much within reach for basically everybody listening. If you have a smartphone and you're listening to this, you can try Archery. You do not need to buy anything. But let me explain a term. So Longbow is about the simplest thing you can imagine. It's a, let's call it a stick. It's bent, and then you have a string attached to it. And you'll see this in many different indigenous hunting cultures. You'll see it all over the world. Recurve, you will also see all over the world because they figured out, well, you can make the bow a lot shorter and have the ends of the bow recurve out. It's kind of towards the target to apply more tension.

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  11. Let's pause for a second just for people who have no archery context. And by the way, my not too secret agenda for this is I want everybody to go out and try archery. It has been such a godsend for me to have that constant for a million reasons turns into a form of meditation. It can also be just as frustrating, if not more frustrating than golf. But let's put that aside for now. It has been such a gift to my life to have archery and to be able to train with you.

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  12. I mean, it's kind of crazy. I've heard this story to think if your first 20 arrows had been all over the place, would it have been a different story? Like maybe, you know, maybe.

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  13. At any moment. And if somebody lets their nerves take control, if there's any number of issues, they could really fire on the target, but out of the bullseye, let's just say by a substantial margin, which opens up the possibility for comeback surprise turns, reversals of fortune. And it makes it fun to watch. And I thought, okay, well, that seems like a fun place to bookmark as a possible competition and ended up competing end of January. We will come back to that. And had I suppose about six months of real training, real focus training. And so we'll come back to what that looked like. But let's talk about Jake. How did the archery thing start? And why don't you just take that and run with it? And then I might pepper in questions along the way.

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  14. Nicknamed the struggle stick for folks. And part of the reason it has so much viewership online compared to some of these other disciplines is, as they would say, like in Baribo, anything can happen.

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  15. They have longbow now They've got all sorts of stuff. So many different classes, and Bearbow was interesting to me for a few reasons. I have not done any real physical competition. Well, now I have, but in 20 years probably. Last thing was Tango in Argentina in 2004, I suppose it was, a long time ago. And I wanted to compete. I love competing. But I thought to myself, all right, I want to take a bit of a oblique approach here, which I think is a misunderstanding about what I do. Sometimes or what I often focus on even as early as the four-hour work week, the goal is not to find the cheap shortcut. The goal is to look for oblique, maybe uncommon approaches to various problems or goals or whatever. That's it. In this case, I looked at the number of people competing in Barebow, and I was like, all right, it's a smaller population at the higher levels. And it is sometimes...

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  16. Lancaster, yes, exactly. And Lancaster archery supply is a huge distributor of archery products, and they hold this competition once a year.

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  17. Everything that makes it, yeah, you take off all of the performance aids. And then you shoot with that particular bow. I became interested in Berbo for a few reasons. I saw it online on YouTube while I was tooling around trying to find something, and there is something called Lancaster Classic. Happens in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

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  18. And my background just quickly is not that extensive, but I've been bow hunting for at least 10 years, a bit more than that, did rifle prior to that, first hunt ever was with Stephen Ranella during the writing of the four-hour chef. So thanks to Steve Rinella, people can check him out. Everything meat eater. Also an amazing writer. And I'll give people a bit of a flash forward and then we can talk about all sorts of stuff, including your kind of training regimen for yourself and development and so on. But began taking bare bow archery. We can talk about what that is, but it's effectively for the purposes of this conversation. It's a competition classification and it dictates that you basically strip off all the stabilizers, the clicker. Don't worry about these things, the site, et cetera, from an Olympic bow.

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  19. Yeah. I mean, when we've gone anywhere related to archery, it's like trying to move around with the rock or Lady Gaga or some combination of the two. You just get mobbed because in a world where it can be very difficult to decipher what is legitimate, you offer the bona fides and a lot of really good technical instructions. That's how I found you, then reached out. And then lo and behold, here we are. And it's really worked out incredibly well.

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  20. Let me try to use that as a sorting mechanism. And that is how I found your amazing YouTube channel. You want to give it a plug?

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  21. How can I find an objective measure for this sport, for this discipline? And they're almost always options. For instance, I've had Susan Garrett on this podcast. She is a multiple time agility champion. So a dog agility champion. She's a multiple national time champion. And that is an objective competition with set scoring, with set penalties under time and there's nowhere to hide. So that is how I ended up having Susan Garrett on the podcast versus a million celebrity dog coaches where it's impossible to actually know what you're buying because you don't have any of the outtakes. You don't have a lot of objective measurement. And in this case, I was like, all right, well, I think archery's in the Olympics. Let me look this up. Oh, it's in the Olympics. Great.

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  22. And what I think what you're alluding to is that if you're hitting the center of the target consistently, you're basically going to carve out a sweet spot and then you have to replace that portion of the target face if it's replaceable. There's a lot of, I suppose, selection and highlights online, and it can make it very, very difficult, particularly if you're coming in as a novice. You don't know how to sort or separate fact from fiction. You don't know where to go. And so what I ended up doing was asking myself a question I ask a lot. And for people who've read the four-hour chef, which is actually about accelerated learning, this approach will sound familiar, but this is a chance to see it unfold in recent history and sort of in real time because we're still training.

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  23. Went where I went online. I went to YouTube. But one of the challenges, as most people will recognize, is that let's just say for trick shooters and there's some amazing trick shooters, which is not to discount that as a discipline, but people can take a thousand attempts and then show their best outcome. And we were talking about this earlier, but when they actually go to retrieve their arrow, look at the rest of the target face.

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  24. Skateboard deck that you could stand on, and there's basically a huge rolling pin underneath it, and you place it on the pin, and then you have to balance as you wobble. And if you see someone try this for the first time, it's disastrous and comical. And so to be able to stand on that and hit the ten ring, you guys can put the math together. It's just, it is just an extra planetary accomplishment. It's wild. So let's back up and share some context on how we first connected. So the world of archery is, I'm not going to say it's opaque because it's not opaque, but it can be difficult to navigate. And when I was first trying to find potential coaches, and I can come back to why I was doing that.

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  25. That's the level. I'll give one more bit of trivia that I did not know until we were literally just walking down this hallway, which is that you have also hit the 10 ring from three quarters of a football field away while standing on an indo board. For people who don't know what that is, it's like a balance board. Imagine a...

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  26. So, just to put tiny in perspective, if you're not watching the video, you'll still get it. But if you're watching the video, all right. So you're trying to hit a CD. For those of you who remember CDs, it would be like the type of dish you might have under a cup of coffee. Something like that. It's small. And then the amount of variance at the arrow tip that will allow you to hit that consistently is smaller than the point of this pen. Not the pen, not the diameter of the pen, the actual rolling point in a ballpoint. It's insane

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  27. And for people who are trying to get an idea of what it means to perform at a very high level, the center of the target, how large is that? And what does that mean for the amount of motion that is permissible at the arrow point

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  28. It might be double that. It's probably double that if we count texts and the many, many thousands and then videos, it just goes on and on. So let's give people some context. We're going to do a deep dive into the world of archery. We're going to do a deep dive into the world of high performance, which transcends archery. So if you think to yourself archery, I'm not interested in flinging arrows. Still listen. There's going to be a lot here. And we're also going to talk about your coaching and our experience coach and student and what we did with that, which I think is pretty special and fun to unpack. So we're going to go in a lot of different rabbit holes, but let's start for people who are not familiar with Olympic recurve. What does that mean? What is the sport?

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  29. So glad to be doing this. We've had, I was joking before we recorded that we could just treat this conversation 678, something like that. We've had a lot of conversations.

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  34. Website Jakekaminsky.com and on Instagram and Facebook jake underscore kaminsky on Instagram. Facebook Kaminsky Jake. We'll link to all that stuff, but really the big two are the YouTube channel, Jake Kaminsky Archery, and then the website, jake kaminsky.com. And we go all over the place in this conversation is really a close examination of real-world learning because he and I had to work around and towards all sorts of things together. I'll explain how I chose him, how I found him, and much more in just a second after a few words from the people who make this podcast possible. Not to be a salty old dog, but then again, that's what I am. But in the early 2000s, back in the day when I was running my own e-commerce business, the tools were atrocious. They tried hard, but man was it bad, you had to cobble.

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  35. Games. Since retiring from Olympic competition, Jake has become a leading voice in the archery world through content creation, product innovation, and educational events. He runs a successful YouTube channel, which is kind of the de facto archery technical channel. People from all over the world have seen this over and over again. He is like the Taylor Swift meets, you name it, Brad Pitt of the Archery World when I've gone to events with him because he was my coach and is my coach in archery. I had my first competition ended with January. We'll talk about that. So he, in addition to that, writes training guides and develops high performance gear, which he manufactures in Austria. It is as precise as you would expect Jake Kaminski to be under the Kaminsky Archery brand. You can find him on YouTube, Jake Kaminsky, at Jake Kaminsky Archery. Kaminski is K-A-M-I.

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  36. Boys and girls, ladies and germs, this is Tim Ferris. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferris Show. Where it is my job to deconstruct world-class performers, to tease out how they do what they do, the routines, the belief structures, the training programs that you can apply to your own life. And I say training programs because my guest today is one of the best teachers and trainers I have found in the last several years in any discipline whatsoever. His name is Jake Kaminsky. Jake Kaminsky is a two-time Olympic silver medalist in archery and a longtime member of the US archery team with more than a decade of international competition experience. He is very well known for his technical precision. He is meticulous with gear and tuning, also with biomechanics. His deep knowledge of the sport. And with all that, Jake helped lead the US to team silver medals at both the 2012 London and 2016 Rio Olympics.

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