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“In Congress, what we do is we recruit CI agents, FBI people, business people, women, it makes the most diverse Native Americans, you name it, it was all in this class. Six hours after the election, we own every rabbit track that they can put us on. We're talking about repatriations. We're talking about changing the rules of the Senate. Are we talking about the Electoral College? Are we talking about felons in jail voting? It's like, do you learn anything, people? You do something, it works. And the next thing you do is something that has no chance of working.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think they bought, she did, not him be really fair here into the kind of coalition and that she was convinced that Would be sufficient if they would have made Trump unacceptable to suburban women like Montgomery, Delaware, suburban Detroit. Kind of thing that was the way that was the path to victory and it didn't you know by a distributional fluke I mean Trump did win I know the Russians and Comey it has a thousand things that went wrong but I think it's a fair thing to say that they could have been more relevant so what happens is the party learns its lessons that it said you know we're going to go out and recruit people we're going to talk about stuff that matters to people and we get these wonderful class of freshmen coming in”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The first human being told somebody about their aunts or their parents. Every story that ever exists has the same arc. It cannot have any other arc. It's called Setup, Conflict, Resolution. So you would say that in every play, every movie, every book always has the same narrative. And it is the way that people receive information. It's the only way they receive information. And so many politicians. We don't get information through ten-point plans. We get information. Even Trump had a story that America used to be a great country. We sold ourselves out to the international, I don't know, moneyed people and...”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was huge, and Lindy Boggs and One of the Titans of And so did when he was a student at Loyola during a depression, he was at some campus group that somebody laid a claim was like a communist front, you know, that kind of red scare stuff. So early, I campaigned. He said, you know, they say that hailbox is a communist. I'm going to tell you right now, that is impossible. This is terrible if people bring this up. I know for a fact it's impossible for Hailbox to be a communist because he's too good a Catholic to be a communist. I mean, he knew how to get You know, he was an expert of setting you up Praise and then coming in for the kill shot.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know probably like anybody else who drank too much, didn't take care of himself, he gambled. Man Yeah, see, but he was smart. And he is one of the best communicators that I've ever seen in American politics. And he did it. A way that it's hard to think that someone with that much political So, you know, if you think of Louisiana in the 50s, it was the Catholic South and the Protestant North. And that was the kind of conflict in the state, which made it a little different to other states. So Hail Boggs was running. And of course, when Hail Boggs was a student”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Black people changing bedpans of black people. Everybody clapped and he got the five jobs, right? Not the most admirable way to do it, but 1930. Person had to do, you know, did it so earl really never was, he never was into him, he didn't like the segregationists and everything. But he was always fighting back against And he was a very courageous guy, and he had a way of sticking a knife in the establishment or whatever you wanted, the bourbons that people had power in a long time. In fact, my family was Andy Long, but not me. No.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Traditionally, we're not very into race. So Huey, he was just into power. I mean, I don't think he had like a burning desire to help black people. Was instrumental to his goal. And so there's this famous story that during the Depression three or four black preachers from New Orleans went to seat of governor and they said, governor, look, if we could get two or three state jobs somewhere that could support 10 different people, we're just really up against the wall. So he thought, and he says, you know, I can get you five jobs, but you may not like how I do it. It don't matter, Governor, do anything you got to do. Huey announces that he's having an inspection to a charity hospital in New Orleans. They had two radio stations and a local paper. So he walks out and he says, I have just witnessed the single most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life. In that hospital, we actually have white women changing bedpans of black men. That will cease and desist immediately. And we'll only have...”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Months after the election, the guy shows up in Rijnijni. Said, hey, Mr. Swallow's out there to see you. He says, Who in the hell is that? He said, That's the guy that you told. You got his people to vote for you that you improved the road. And he said, well, what happened? He said, well, you got all 50 votes. And he said, well, I don't want to see him. He said, well, what did I tell him?”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is the story. Earl and an aide are campaigning in Roe South, Louisiana, and the aide says, look, this old man Swallow back there at 50 people that lived there. And if he endorses you, you're going to get 50 votes. So he said, good, go down there. He said, go down this dirt road at the end of the road. The guy's sitting on his front porch. And he said, swallow burrow along. He said, I know. I'm running again for governor and I'd like to have you supporting people. He says, I tell you what I'll do. I'll vote for y'all, get all these people to vote for you. The only thing that we need is we've got to get this road drivel because it rains a lot. It gets washed out. We had a guy we could go had a heart attack and we couldn't get him out. He died. People just can't do it. He says, you got a deal. So the election comes in. They're like, of course, it's all the demo is 5000.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And from the get go, I mean, I. My grandfather was on the board of a bank in Baden Rouge, you know, when I was a young teenage, I'd have to run back and forth to state capital because the account for like the land office in order to get the money that day so they could start drawing interest. And I'd go down there and I'd watch the legislature for an hour. And, you know, it was big theater then.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I took that as a cue. Intrepid. And I didn't have sheet. I took her on tour and we were going to go see University of Georgia and Wake Forest and TCU and SMU and that kind of thing. And she just said, Dad, I think I want to go to LSU. And I was like stunned and saved me a bucket load of money and she's having a good time. So I'm happy about it.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If Model's the oldest in my immediate family, but no, my uncles and my dad all went, I think. Pick it up that I have like 22 nieces and nephews that graduate. I have a bunch of brothers and sisters. So no, we're. You know, and I had a cousin, he would tell us, and he went to the NBA at Harvard and stuff, but we were all LSU. We thought about going anywhere else. It didn't cost anything back then”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was named after Hobo. During a depression, the Royal South, particularly these hobos would ride the rails. And it was one behind a house, and she would take food from a house. And the hobo's name was Nip. And so people started calling her nippy. So my mother's actually named after a tramp or a hobo from the Depression era when she was.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He would do anything. I can't tell you what an act of familiar courage that was to do that. Doesn't sound like much, but given the element, the time, you know, he and my mother, they were actually kind of both Democrats.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, my parents were, we wouldn't, this sounds so like, oh, you're really going to say this is crazy. We would never allow. To use the We couldn't call Italian people. That's ugly. Don't talk about people like that. To that extent, We were not raised with any of that, but I mean, they weren't also activists or anything. They kind of accepted it. My grandmother was Oh man. I don't know if we're getting in that era. People didn't talk back to their parents. And she was just there going to this, the in, that, just every other word. They said, Mama, I wish you wouldn't talk like that in front of the kids. And she says, well, it's my house. I'll say what I want. And he said, well, they're my kids, so we're just going to leave. And I was just like so startled.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, David, I literally, when I was like 14 or 15, I just had this epiphany that this thing is not, this is really what we're doing to black people. It's just not right. They just became very sympathetic to it. And I think I got tired of the singular conversation. I told Gary Wells, who did a piece of me a long time ago, you just didn't talk about anything else. Can we just talk about the football team? Can we talk about anything other than You know what? And I think it was just, I was just rebelling, I think I hope I would like to think in part against that it was discrimination and I didn't like it, but it was also interfering with other things in my life because there was just such an obsession with race on everybody's part.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not that much because there wasn't anything there wasn't a launch counter. Want to move a It's so, I mean, we were certainly aware of everything. Then, of course, was the whole topic of conversation, but it really did in daily life in a place where I grew up, there just wasn't that conflict because there was nothing to conflict over.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All right. Yeah, but we didn't have It's a little bit different experience because we didn't have any public places to integrate. And the hospital, because it was a federal facility, was obviously integrated way before anything else. And they also had non-discriminatory hiring before anybody else. So if you were an African-American in 1958 in Carville and you had a job at the hospital, pretty good shape. I mean, you had a little retirement, you got war like a khaki uniform to work every day. You had some health care and prestige. So it was to that extent it was a very good local producer of jobs. And at the jobs were... They paid and there were people of respect, so it was very helpful. It was the economic engine that obviously drove the whole place.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably 90% African American, 5% people, patients, and 5% Caucasian. So either got along, you didn't have a very good life.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not a lot. I mean, one thing that Mayberry did, which you couldn't do if you lived in Gulffield, it just acted like black people didn't exist. I mean, it was just some kind of Carville was...”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, it really kept it up. There's a great book in the, not the shadow of our cast, Neil, I can think of his name, but making a movie of it. It became a federal prison, Neil White. It became a federal prison after it closed in 1994 because there's no reason to colonize people with leprosy. It just really was an antiquated thing. And it became a federal prison for a while. He had a literary journal in Oxford, Mississippi. Was kiting checks to make payroll and got caught, so he got sentenced nine months there. In the sanctuary of Outcast. And so he was there at the time that the old patients were still there. So he wrote a book about it, and they're going to make a movie of it. It's a very good book”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A little bit more than that, I'd say, by you know, it's right 20 miles south, I'd say, by 20, 15, 20 miles south of Tiger Stadium, the south end of the place, it is a very famous place because it's where the foremost Senate for the treatment of Hassan's disease, if you would know his leprosy, exists. And for 100 years, it was the center, the number one place in the world if you contracted leprosy. Really? You would go to Carl Billy? Yes, sir. It has dropped dead gorgeous place to this day.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And on June the 9th, 1909, the post office changed the designation to Carville because some bureaucrats saw that there was a Carville that was postmaster, that it was currently postmaster. In fact, my dad became the postmaster after my grandfather. And so we're just a history of kind of bureaucrats, you know, Class C postmasters. And that's how he got its name. But I let all the girls think it was because we had a big plantation and a lot of money and everything, which wasn't working?”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wife who had a plantation also became the postmistress. After that time, my grandfather became the postmaster. And what Carville was called Island. Well, there are a lot of islands in Louisiana. There's actually an island in Louisiana, there's a Sicily Island of Bacon Island. So the post office decided that they wanted to change the designation of the post office. Larry speaks. Reagan's over. Guy would represent, looked us all up for me.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That are still there, which, you know, I mean, it's a horrific part of, but that was the way the world operated and it just goes to show you, yeah, my great-grandfather. We don't think he saw action, but he was an officer, and he went to, I don't know how somebody funded him, he went to like a boarding school in Indiana. And families have interest in stories, but that's the story of my great-grandfather, who was a Republican member of the Louisiana legislature.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, anyway. After the war, he moves to Louisiana, becomes a Republican member of the Louisiana legislature, was actually Governor Pinchback, the Reconstruction African-American governor of Louisiana's kind of floor And he married, history is complicated, so just my family history is complicated too. He married my great-grandmother, Octavia Duhan, who was part of a failed Belgian colony in Guatemala somewhere. And of course, she didn't quite share his views. And so what people did after what whites did after the war, because the 13th Amendment prohibited involuntary servitude, if you had a plantation, you had a plantation store. So you would pay your laborers in script. I actually have the coins”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I always thought it was that it was contemporaneous, but we were from County Monaghan, and that wasn't part that was affected. That was right on the Irish border with Northern Ireland. And I asked my relatives there, and it's probably just a case of too many kids and too few cows.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I was reading about how union people would name their children after presidents or African Americans back then would name their children Jefferson or Washington. That was not uncommon. That was a way that you So I said, well, this doesn't make sense. Why do we have all of these names in our family? And I come to find out that, first of all, it was my great grandfather, not great-grand. He emigrated from Ireland. I think went through Toronto, ended up in Wisconsin, served in the Union Army.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let's go back. It was actually my great grandfather, and the story is fascinating. And I did not know it. So I was asked about my family when I was a kid about who he was. I said, well, it was fun wisdom. He had asthma and he came to Louisiana. And I always thought, that didn't make any goddamn sense. And I noticed that my grandfather's name was Arthur, and we had Uncle Garfield and Uncle John Madison. And my dad's name was Chester. As yours is yours.”
2019-05-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 323 — James Carville · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source