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Jan Schakowsky

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first: 2019-04-18
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“And I want to say, and there's not been like this big, oh, wow, the glass thing. I think Hillary Clinton in many ways did break the glass ceiling to the point that the fact that there are four women running for president is not this huge deal.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think he is so needy and that every day he tries to fill this deep hole in himself. It's all about that and feeling validated and powerful and the winner. I do. And I've actually talked to some pretty high-level people who have been in the administration before and I say, well, who around him? Can I be confident that there are people around him who would stop him? And I never got a really solid, don't worry about that”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm more concerned, you know, he really does have the nuclear codes in his pocket, and we do really have nuclear weapons that they could go off and who's around him that would stop it if the ultimate distraction was on his mind. He has said, of course, that during the campaign, that why do we have so many if we don't use them? He's trying to get money right now for low yield nuclear weapons. And I'm really worried about it.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, one would think you have to have a strong constitution and worry about the things that he worried about. We have a very different president right now. And I'm afraid of him. I think he's a very, very sick person. And I worry that when cornered, this man could do something catastrophic.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But you got to have it, I mean, you really have to want to be president of the United States. And he also mentioned, and you do have to make those decisions about sending people off potentially to die. I mean, these are really, really have to weigh heavy. I'll tell you something.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, right. And, you know, then they may be running really for vice president or for. Know just making themselves more giving themselves more power, which I think it does when you decide to run for president. So who knows really who's going to get to the finish line? No, I was sorry that Sherry Brown didn't run. I thought he would be a good candidate.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do. I don't know. You may have seen there was a front page story in the New York Times about it never hurts to run for president. I mean, you know, it may advance. Well, number”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's too early to tell. I think they're going to have to show their stuff over the first debate is already in June. I mean, it's coming up. Coming up pretty quickly to see how they respond and what their thinking is and what their vision is. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I don't think we know yet.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Dress, and then you look as they leave office. And it is really, really a stressful job. So I do think that it's a factor. On the other hand, there's the element of experience both of running campaigns and being in campaigns. So, you know, we'll see how that comes out. But I consider it as it may not be the best thing to have someone of that age.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's one element. I really do think it is. You've been in the White House. You've seen Barack Obama's hair grow white or gray. Yes. I mean, it's Different in terms of stresses than being even the Speaker of the House, which makes her the most powerful woman in American history, but is still not president of the United States and decisions about, I mean, And I just think it's a factor.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well I think for one thing, the shiny new object is Moves forward. It's like AOC, you know, maybe even the Chicago mayoral election that new means change, a breath of fresh air. But I think, in addition, he's been almost flawless, I think, when he's been questioned about Why he's running his vision for America. He's very, very...”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I don't know down the road, maybe, but certainly not right now. What I sense when I talk to people that the number one criteria is who's going to beat Donald Trump? Now people will have different opinions on that one.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ilhan Omar is not a threat to the United States of America. She ran for Congress. She took the oath of office as we all do and is trying to serve her community and learning along the way. I think the kinds of things she spent years in a refugee camp.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, many times. Many, many times. She personally apologized to me on the way that she framed the issue of the influence of Jewish money, which the Republicans have done big time, bigger time than she has done. And I felt, and she came to me personally as well as publicly apologizing for that. But, you know, she covers her head, which makes the image, I think, for the people that Donald Trump wants to incite a better picture. She's actually African-American Muslim. And now She's getting death threats every day. And the Capitol Police have to be involved in security has become a really big issue for her because of this president who is”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know the Republicans and the media wants to really plumb divisions. That's the story that they love. But I have to tell you, if you look at the votes that we've taken and we've taken a number of them on important issues, it's overwhelming. We may lose one or two or three Democrats. So there's a lot of cohesion in our caucus. Part of it is the genius of Nancy Pelosi.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Smart, yeah, she's really smart and does her homework. And while she has sponsored the Green New Deal, she understands that the work is going to be done in committees. And Speaker Pelosi actually created a select committee on climate. So she gets that, that it's going to be happening in that way. She continues to use her voice in caucus, which I love because for a lot of sessions that I've been there, freshmen were loath to speak and now they're standing up in caucus all the time and talking about what they care about.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. I mean, she has been a lightning rod for the Republicans and particularly the far right Republicans. No, I don't sense that, partly because of her. She's very nice and she's a good team player on a lot of things. On most things.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, Nancy, I just read an interview she did, is not willing to accept that because she says that public sentiment is everything. She quotes Abraham Lincoln. And if we can get enough people, you know, in the House of Representatives, we had 30 Republicans join us in a broadened reauthorization of the violence against women act. We even had some Republicans join us in universal background checks on guns, and there's a lot of pressure on the Senate to do that.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was a short time. So the sense of urgency backing up things like our work on the environment. I'm not talking, the Green New Deal is a vision statement, but we passed a bill now that out of our committee just last week, energy and commerce Says that the United States of America must rejoin, must be part of the Paris Accord. Pretty modest bill, but we're working on emission standards and all kinds of things. I think with a new urgency brought by the new members, of course by the circumstances as well, that require, I think, a new sense. I think Donald Trump has stimulated that too, the sense of urgency about getting money out of politics, about voting rights, which are at Risk in so many places. We passed HR one, which we call the four of the people, but it's really a broad. Democracy saving kind of agenda”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let me say this. I think the impatience and the sense of urgency that we see right now with a number of people in the freshman class is healthy. You know, and I get it. And I've talked to constituent young people about the environment. I had a group come to see me about the Green New Deal, which I'm sponsoring. I mean, I'm one of the co-sponsors of that was initiated by AOC. Imagine a young person being... New person just know her by her. But I want to say. What this young girl said to me, and it was so precious, she said, Congresswoman, you don't understand. I've been working on this issue for six months. And it was so precious. But what I realized as a percentage of her lifetime,”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did not, I didn't feel, even though we were few, not fewer at the time that we would necessarily, it was more my seniority, which, you know, I didn't have much. Although even now, it's different for freshmen who expect that they will be powerful on the first day.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pretty soon she was going to be elected the whip. First, the whip, right? And I became very close to and made sure I did hang out with the really wonderful women who had been there for a long time. But it certainly was extremely male-dominated. But, you know, when you have a force of nature like Nancy Pelosi, it's not like she just let things slide by. Rosa Doloro at that time was running and lost by one vote for the caucus chairman. So, you know, we had self-confident and prominent women. Nita Lowey told me the story that when she had fairly recently gotten a bill passed that required that for medical studies that they were only using At the time, male rats much less only men in studying heart disease, for instance, and she had to get that change that there were some gender consideration when we looked at health care issues.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was fair. And I just as pleasantly as I could said, well, let's talk after the primary. And of course, we did, and he did. And I had the labor support in that race.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let me tell you, on the way, and the premier, because the other candidate, there were three of us in the Lord Karamaram. Howard Carroll, who had been a state senator for 20 years, something like that, and was considered a machine candidate. None of us differed much, really, on the issues, but I remember going to the Plumber's Hall and the president at the time of the plumbers literally patted me on the head and said it just wasn't my turn. And he was supporting Howie because Howie had paid his dues.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I never hesitate when we're together and I introduce him and I like them so very much. Just to say that 20 years ago, I beat him for Congress Now I'm wholeheartedly supporting him for governor.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When a number of people, Democrats were retiring, I went to them and I said, okay, now you're not going to be here. You can help me vote. You can cast a vote right now for this issue that will make utility prices lower. They said, well, you know, Jan, I'm interviewing for a lot of jobs. And I don't think I can do that. That was just a opening.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know what to this day? I'm really an organizer, and I understand that very often if you can mobilize people, you can actually move a legislative agenda. But you're right, it really prepared me for being in Washington, and I see that all the time. People who have served in general assemblies, who have served in local government, who really understand the process, I think are much more prepared for coming into the United States Congress. For one thing, I think you learn that it takes a while to get things done. It's not going to happen overnight and often not just in one session of Congress. And I learned about a lot about working with other legislators, but I had one real surprise because one session”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The bill was repealed. When have you heard about a bill repealed? The problem was that it really was a problematic bill, the catastrophic health care plan didn't have anything in long-term care. It charged union members who are going to end up actually paying more because they had better retirement. It was not well done, which he never admitted to the end.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was huge First of all, I came to Congress with sort of this card in hand, which is watch out because Shakowski can get the seniors to chase you. Dan Rust and Kowski, his powerful leader of the House Ways and Means Committee, that was like part of his name. Then, you know, it's a problem.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the seniors are blocking the street. They're running across the street. Somebody grabs onto the door handle and the car pulls away. He's like, seniors are like flipping off the car. That was a moment, and it was”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On camera. And he gets into the car. And so now he's in the car and the scene. And there's signs, and a couple people sort of banging on the car. And this one woman who said later she doesn't know what moved her, maybe it was God, she says, that said, go to that meeting. And she's standing in front of the car, and the driver made this terrible mistake of slowly moving the car, thinking she would leave, but no, she ends up on top of the car. Now they are only about a couple feet apart in the windshield, you know. So she's saying come out and he's saying go away. And this is all on camera. She's off the car, and the car pulls away and flips around. This is on Milwaukee Avenue. This is the heart of the...”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We saw that he started to walk out of the building. Well, when the seniors realized he wasn't coming in to say hello, which would have been the end of it. They never saw people move, so these older people move so fast. I thought they were going to get jammed at the door. And so first he's kind of strolling, and now he's kind of loping. And now he's kind of running and they are keeping up with them.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so there were about 200 seniors in a room, and he agreed to only meet with some leaders. So the leaders were in a side room. And then we said, if he could, if Dan Rostinkowski, this was at the Copernicus Center in the heart of his community. And there were a lot of people from the neighborhood, Lepinski, Wakowski, I mean, all kinds of the ski names, Polish immigrant people or children of immigrants who knew his father, who knew him. So they wanted him just to come in and basically tip his hat to them before he left the building. So they said, well, as long as you don't yell and scream at him when he comes in, he'll do it. So we had a vote. And people finally agreed to not yell and scream. And then. As he was done with the small group meeting, the leaders meeting,”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Illinois State Council of Senior Citizens, and I became the first executive director. And it was a lot of labor retirees. And I learned about courage from these people who were afraid of no one.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We figured that out pretty quickly. But continued to work there to build what became the largest public interest organization in the state and working on lots of issues like getting the utility company, Commonwealth Edison, to stop shutting off people in the depth of winter. So, and I worked a lot with senior citizens well before”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yes, and was involved in all the student protests here. That's where she met her husband. And so We got some skills. And then when Robert Creamer, Bob Creamer, who was working at CAP, decided to create a statewide organization. He hired myself and Jackie Kendall, who we were kind of partners in crime on all the consumer issues, to share a job. Always a bad idea, and women should know if you're asked to do a job share, what he got really were two women that worked full-time for halftime pay.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How do they get so many ordinary people? We know people care about our interest, about what we're interested in. We sold about 25,000 of these books. You know, that's a lot. That's a lot. Just out of our basements. Anyway, and so we contacted them. They were interested in us and our consumer activity. And I got involved in that organization and learning a lot about”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I realized I was being manipulated into doing this. And this was not good. So we had seen in the news about the last of the Saul Alinsky groups, the Citizen Action Program, which was CAP in Chicago. And they were turning out thousands of people against the Commonwealth Edison smokestacks and other issues like the Crosstown Expressway and hundreds of pose.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so we, our little group, realized that we needed to learn how to organize because we got involved in the meat boycott in the 70s. Actually, we're almost pressured by the media to get it involved in it. What are you doing? So we had a peanut butter and jelly lunch at the federal building calling on the feds to help boycott meat because the price had really skyrocketed. It's a good idea. Except that we were so far outnumbered by the press and the cameras at this event. We did our best and we got about a dozen women to come and join us. And then I was doing an interview. They wanted me to do it while eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. That is life-threatening.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So when I talk to young people, I say, you know, it changed me from an ordinary housewife to an ordinary housewife who could make a big change. You know, you could see it, and I have to tell you, David, it still gives me a thrill sometimes. I'll stand in the dairy section of my grocery store, you know, watch people digging around and finding and looking at the date before they take. And it's tempting to go, you know, they did that.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, this was ABC Newscast. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This was national news. And so Jewel, the big chain here, started advertising. Come to Jewel. We put freshman estates on our house brands. Oscar Meyer started putting dates on their vacuum packed meats. They had been a big offender We were concerned because we didn't question the dates that they used. And infant formula and baby food, big offender. So that bothered us.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh my gosh. They said, in fact, it got on the Huntley Brinkley Report, our going to shareholder meeting for the National Tea Company where the president of the company said, I don't know who you women are. You're either communists or spies for jewel.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and quickly, I mean, now I look back on it, it seemed like a long time, but about a year later, and we bought one share of stock, by the way, in Jewel and national or local chains, and go to the shareholder meeting. And Jewel. They must stay.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We translated hundreds of codes and actually put them in a book with a black cover, the NCU National Consumers United code. And then we do store inspections, and we would put in the cart the out-of-date stuff. And we'd wheel it up to the store manager. And if we feared that they would just put that stuff back on the shelf, I admit to maybe poking a hole, taking it in the package. So they wouldn't do that.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we were like detectives. We had the kids in the car. We would write down how they know and how the codes worked and how you could translate them on the top of the tent on the milk. It was you add the outer two numbers for the month and then the inner two numbers were the day of the month. So every single thing was disguised. You didn't know.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. And so this group got together and modestly called ourselves national consumers united. We figured if we cared about those shoot big. Yeah, but we assumed that certainly women, at least, because that's who mostly did the shopping, we were ordinary housewives. So first would push the stock boys against the shelves as they were rotating the shelves and putting the old stuff in front.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. Well, you know, it was an interesting time. The Vietnam War was raging. There were a lot of protests, but I was protesting in the grocery store. Had these two little kids in a small group of women, six of us got together because we wanted to know how old our food was. In those days, nothing had a sell-by expiration date, best to use by date, nothing. You know, they were clearly disguised by numbers, colors, dots, the twist on the end of the bread could mean Monday or Tuesday, whatever the color of that twist was.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I'm still standing. Yeah, when I said 50 years ago, even the parents were gasping. Get this woman a chair. Anyway, and I said, We had to leave the sheltered halls of Sullivan High School to see the real world. And as it was changing and look around you, there's some 70 languages spoken at Sullivan High School now You're living in the real world right here.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We'll get to that So I'm a public school kid. And I went to Roger School. It was very near my home. I remember some of the boys would come over at lunch to watch the World Series games that were on. And you could come home for lunch, which was awesome. And then I went to Sullivan High School, which at the time was, oh, probably 98% white and 95% Jewish. And I am very connected to Sullivan High School now, which in Chicago magazine was called Refugee High. And I spoke a graduation there. I said, you know, I've stood where you're standing now some about 50 years ago and told them the makeup. What pardon me?”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And on average, they're spending a lot of money out of pocket in many places to provide just the basic supplies that kids need in school because they don't get them. The buildings, so many of them are not hospitable for learning. Many of them are falling apart. We need to renovate. So it's a very tough environment. And then as you said, many times held responsible for the conditions from which their children come, those students come. Poverty is such a terrible issue and hunger and lack of employment for the kids future and hope. It's very tough right now. Income inequality is really, I think, at the root.”
2019-04-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 320 — Rep. Jan Schakowsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source