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Jason DeParle

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“Oh, well, the passage I thought about reading is at the end. So Rosalie is in the U.S. for three years when she buys a house in the suburbs, which... The ultimate badge of belonging, the classic immigration story. So three generations it took to do that, the first generation struggled amid poverty and the second generation awkwardly straddled two cultures and the third generation made it.”
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“Well, they were five, seven, and nine when they came. So they became, they weren't Americans when they arrived. The youngest one didn't speak a word of English, but yeah, a lot of the book is about how rapidly they became, and even when it made Rosalie uncomfortable. I mean, she at one point said, we're only going to speak to Galog in the House. This is the language Filipino, because it's so important. You remember your language. And that lasted like two minutes. I mean, the kids, American culture is coming in the radio. It's coming in the TV. It's coming in the car. It's coming on their phones. Within three years, they don't want to speak to Kala. They went back to see their grandparents. They couldn't speak to Kalik anymore.”
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“After a few years after a hurricane had hit Galveston, Texas, and destroyed the local hospital, it's like a Katrina event. A sixth of the island never came back. So Galveston's struggling blue-collar community on the Texas Gulf Coast can't get enough American nurses to come back and rebuild the hospital, offering $5,000 bonuses. They wouldn't come. So it finally took a gamble and hired 20 foreign nurses to come in and open a new ward. Rosalie had her chance. She came in 2012 with her husband and their three young children. So the book is the three generations. Her father's experiences in the Persian Gulf, hers in the Persian Gulf and America, and then her young children going into the Texas public schools speaking little English.”
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“Instead, she went to Saudi Arabia and she went to the Persian Gulf at the time. I thought poor Rosalie, she has to go abroad from her perspective. It was, hey, lucky me, I get to go abroad because the salaries were so much better over there. And she set her sights on the US. She took her 20 years to get here. Sometimes critics of immigration say it's gotten too easy to come. People don't really want to come anymore. She struggled for 20 years to make it. And finally got her big break in 2012.”
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“It's about three generations of one extended family and how their journey embodies the broader rise of global migration. So in the first generation, there's a man named Emmett goes abroad to Saudi Arabia. He can make 10 times his wage by being cleaning pools in Saudi Arabia as opposed to Manila. And Manila made $50 a month. In Saudi, he made $500 a month. That meant he could get his daughter medicine and put a patch of the leaky roof on his shanty and eventually send his daughter, Rosalie, to nursing school, which is a big leap for a girl from slums. She made it, I thought when she was going to nursing school, the whole point was that she would then stay in the Philippines.”
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“I think the inequality starts in the marketplace, but the political system hasn't done anything to ameliorate it. And perhaps most likely has been public policy has been exacerbating it. Tax system. I mean, just look at the biggest domestic achievement of the Trump administration is the tax bill. Who's benefit from the tax bill? I mean, the bulk of the, it's a huge redistribution of wealth upwards.”
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“It's a function of rising inequality globally, and so is migration. The reason migration is on the rise is because inequality between rich countries, a big reason it's on the rise is because the inequality between rich countries and poor countries is growing. I mean, obviously the US has always been much more prosperous than the Philippines, but the multiple, if you go back to 1960, Say it was five, say incomes were five times what they were in the Philippines, then now they're 30 times. It's that kind of magnitude that's grown, and we're seeing that in our own society.”
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“Yeah, when I first started writing about poverty in America, the notion was the economic system was working for most of us, but there was something about poor people that it wasn't working for. Now I think the generally accepted idea is that the economy isn't working for the general middle class and the poor people are the worst off, but lots of other people are one misfortune away from falling into their midst. So I don't think it's seen as a separate population the way it used to.”
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“You talked about more of. For most people, they were Is it opiates now? Exotic subgroup as more people get added into it. I want to get back into this book in a second. But in terms of when you say they're a separate subgroup, meaning as a continuum of more people adding to it or a continuum of a different problem we're facing.”
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“I think there's been a big shift, and use the word earlier inequality. So 30 years ago, that wouldn't have been the first word you would have talked about. You would have talked about more of poverty and particularly pockets of poverty, the notion was basically that this was a prosperous society that was for most people the economy was working and for most people they were able to work up. And then there was a subgroup. And so the question was, why? Is it because of racial discrimination? Is it because of the legacy of slavery? Is it because of the failures of the welfare system? What is it about? Is it opiates now? What is it about a...”
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“Brought new attention to long term intergenerational poverty. And then Bill Clinton promised to end welfare as we know it. So I covered the welfare system and the welfare debate in the 1990s. And when the Congress passed the law in 1996 abolishing the own welfare system, I found a group of Milwaukee welfare families and filed them for seven years to write about the”
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“It was a great opportunity to let me go wherever I wanted and write whatever I wanted. Story about Native Alaskans and stories on Indian reservations, but the bulk of the beat back then when I first started in the late 80s or early 90s was around what we now call the underclass, William Julius Wilson, the Harvard sociologist, had written a groundbreaking book called The Truly Disadvantage that had...”
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“Well, I was interested in poverty before I was interested in journalism. I spent the summer in India during my senior year of college. I came back, I wrote a story for the campus paper, and that's kind of what got me being a journalist. So poverty was always the main reason why I wanted to be a journalist. The New York Times offered me a chance to cover poverty. It's like being asked to play center fielder for the Yankees.”
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“Mother to mother. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. All right. So when you in that interim when you were writing about poverty in America, because I think it's income inequality is just to me one of the more important issues right now that needs to be dealt with. There's obviously enormous money being made in tech. There's enormous money being made all over the place. Talk a little bit about the experience of covering poverty in this country because it's an issue I try to get tech people to focus on quite a bit and it's quite hard to focus them on it because I think it's integral to how we're going to Problems that are going to occur later.”
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“Taking notes and keeping notes and keeping letters. They were great letter writers. So I have. My mom recently died, and I found in her house letters that Tita. Had written to my mother just assuring her that I was okay and reaching out to her Mother to mother, yeah. Right, absolutely.”
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“Stayed in touch but didn't see them for 20 years. And I went back to write a piece for The New York Times magazine. And that's when I discovered the sweep of migration globally and the importance of remittances. So out of that article in 2000, it appeared in 2007, I decided to do the book. So it was maybe 12 years of consciously writing the book and 20 years before that of.”
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“The globe, especially. Well, yeah, it didn't start as a book. I mean, I started that as a book in my mind. I went back in 2006, so 20 years after I had left.”
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“Right, right, absolutely with these companies. Actually, I won't get into the tech of it later because there's all the kinds of companies trying to deal with moving money around the globe, especially at a cheap rate, because a lot of it is usury. People are taking advantage of people when it's quite easy now to do this in different ways. But we'll get to that in a minute. So you stay with them and then, so this is a book that you've been writing for 30 years then. Well, yeah, it didn't.”
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“I had been thinking at the New York Times about doing a beat on global poverty now. I kind of figured it would be a beat about writing about foreign aid programs. But really, the migration beat is the poverty beat. I mean, migration was the world's biggest anti-poverty program. So I had known it played a profound role in the life of this family. But when I was realizing its global impact was when I saw that their story was the story of the world writ large.”
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“It was just Light bulb moment for me when I really understood the importance of my migration globally was when I discovered that remittances, the money that migrants sent back to their families, is three times the world's foreign aid budgets combined”
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“For this family, which is quite common. It's actually quite much more common. It's actually very common in Silicon Valley where people do that. The Wall Street Journal one year wrote a wonderful piece about a brother who stayed back in the village and one who went to Silicon Valley ended up being a coder and everything else. And what it meant to show was that The one who came to Silicon Valley wasn't necessarily the happy one or didn't have a happier life. It was just observational the entire thing. It was just fascinating. But talk about this idea of migration of moving for jobs because it's so common. It happens in either whether it's going to Saudi Arabia or Silicon Valley or wherever people go.”
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“Migration situation had started as an emergency situation while the Philippine economy was in the dregs and while his life was in crisis because one of the kids had a Congenital heart defect and Emmett went abroad to make the money for, you know, it started as an act of desperation, became a way of life for this family.”
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“So we became friends, like real friends, and we stayed in touch for many, many years. And over that time, Tita had five kids, all five kids grew up to become overseas workers just like their father. So this”
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“Made me realize for better or worse, I'm a journalist. Like somebody else might have gone in there and said, we need a clinic and started the clinic. The pre-med person would have done that. But I found that in the end, what I was interested in was Tita's life story and taking it, writing it down. So that's what I did.”
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“The kids to school, I took them to the zoo, I helped Tita glue paper bags. I just sort of became a member of the household. And eventually started taking notes.”
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“30 years later I didn't go in because I was going with a work product. I wasn't going to go in the write article to write a book. Sister Christine wouldn't give me a job. She said, go in and if the people will give you a job if they have a job for you. I just became.”
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“What was special about the moment is that for a fleeting second, the whole idea of class division seemed sort of absurd. It was like the joke was on them. The joke was on the Sheridan. The joke was on these artificial divisions that keep us apart. It was a really nice moment of feeling accepted by these people. And that's what was so special about Tita. I think in the end is that. We crossed a gender divide, a class divide, a nationality divide, and had something that I think is a real true friendship that This day.”
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“Let me tell you one real interesting experience one night for dinner with Tita and her group of colleagues in this slum improvement group and we were walking back and we walked by the Sheridan Hotel, the window, the dining room where you see these warm chandeliers bathing the white linen tables and the women started laughing and teasing me that I could go in and have dinner there. I couldn't walk in with them, that they were, whether I was paying or it wasn't the money, it was just they wouldn't be.”
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“Which I think is difficult for a lot of people. I mean, across anywhere you find it, one of the, I was walking in DC today, and there was a sign about not insulting homeless people. It was interesting. It was a picture of a homeless person saying, stop calling me names or something like that. It was fascinating. And I remember thinking, you know, the way we treat homeless people, I hadn't thought of that, like thought of that concept because I don't do that. But of course, this is how we look at homelessness. We'll get to homeless people here and that idea.”
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“Sust A strong faith and inquisitive curiosity. And a great warmth towards me, a stranger who had arrived at her doorstep. Found her character and her resilience to be really inspiring. And I think it shaped my subsequent career as a reporter on American poverty. Where the question is Why are people unable to take advantage of opportunity in a society where it seemingly abounds? Tita's life had been one about how people find opportunity in a place where it hadn't existed. It encouraged me to sort of Just ask about the material conditions of people's lives, but to sort of seek out the inner narrative, the inner spirit. I mean, Keta had this rich prayer life, this rich sense of what her life's mission was. It made her less a poor person and more of a person.”
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“I don't really know. I mean, I don't know what I was looking for. I don't know what I expected to find, but what I found was an encounter with Grace. Lived under crushing conditions, but she hadn't been crushed.”
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“Sister Christine had a slum empowerment. Among the things they did was distribute rice and eggs. And Tito was one of the managers of the co-op store. Part of her job was she had to bring in 2,000 eggs a week and shelter them in her kitchen under a fluorescent light to keep the rats from eating them.”
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“So it's pretty awkward at first. What broke the ice between me and Tito was she gave me a job, an assignment. She was gluing newspapers into paper bags. And I messed it up so badly, she told me, she threatened to mark the made in USA. She had a good one. One of the things I loved about Tita, she had a great sense of humor. She didn't take herself too seriously.”
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“You imagine a shaggy-headed bushy-bearded young American arrives at your doorstep and says, I want to just move in. There was no template. I didn't have a job. I wasn't there to do anything. I was there to observe.”
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“Sister Christine is done with this subject and stomps away and says, if you don't want him, pass him on to somebody else.”
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“Came back two days later thinking she would have used this time in between to find a family that was willing to have me. Instead, she grabbed me and took me into the alleys and essentially auctioned me off on the spot to the first person she saw. I just enough Tagalog to know that the woman was horrified and no sister, it's not Pindipuedi, it's not possible sister.”
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“Well, the funny part about this, I went to see this known and she tried to discourage me from doing it. She said Americans need toilets. Most homes in the Shantytown didn't have them. The family would think they needed to cook me special food. I would be a burden on them. And she went on and she denounced American military bases in the Philippines, American corporations. And she waved her hand above her head and said, that's all up here. We need to build one-on-one relationships between the first world and the third world. If you come back, I'll see what I could do. So I thought she had changed her mind”
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“A sabbatical and went to work in the developing world. I went to work for a group that was building slum housing, but it was run by an eccentric nun who had me locked up in the office writing grant proposals for her. I wasn't meeting any people. So I went out and found another nun who lived in this slum area and said, I wanted to find a family to move in with Hoping to get a more int”
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“Yeah, I did. Let me back up just a little. Why did you want to do that? I had been writing about poverty in the United States for the reason that I became a journalist because I was interested in poverty. I was interested in poverty before I was interested in journalism. I've been a reporter for about four years, and I was wondering whether I wanted to continue in journalism or do something that was more active, like become a doctor or a social worker or a lawyer.”
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“Three decades ago, I had a fellowship to live in Manila. I went there with an interest not in migration, but in slum life, in poverty in developing world. I wanted to move into a shantytown and found a family that was willing to take me. And when I got there, I realized that the way they survived was through migration. Was a guest worker in Saudi Arabia Mother was home raising five kids on the money he sent back. I stayed with the family for about eight months and we became close friends.”
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“I want to talk about you a little bit first of how you got to this book because you've been a huge fan of your reporting in the New York Times for a long time. But why don't we talk about how you move to this topic and why you wrote this book over many decades, which that's what's the most interesting part of it, that you're following the long story.”
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