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“It's great. I love what you do. I love your podcast. You have the most interesting people, me aside. So it's a real service. I think you do for a very broader sense for humanity, I think.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe our future inhabitants of Earth, you know, imagine The planet of the apes in here, you know, we kill ourselves a million years from now, or a billion years from now. There's another species on the planet.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I'm an optimistic in that way. Despite we talked about the end of civilization, I think we're going to live for a long time. I hope we are. I think our society in the future is going to be better. We're going to have less discord. We're going to have less people killing each other. We'll make in some sort of way that's compatible with the carrying capacity of the earth. I'm optimistic these things will happen. And all we can do is try to get there sooner.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, I think you're right. Look, we have to take the whole period of World War II, Nazism or something like that. Well, that was a bad sidestep, right? We've been over there for a while. But, you know, there is the optimistic view about life that ultimately it does converge in a positive way. It progresses ultimately, even if we have years of darkness. So, yeah, so I think you could perhaps that's accelerating the positive. It could also mean eliminating some bad missteps along the way too”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Made it happen sooner. So I think that's the best I would hope for. Someone would say those guys just moved the needle forward a little bit in time.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think as an entrepreneur or scientist or any human who's trying to accomplish some things, I have a view that Really, all you can do is accelerate the inevitable. It's like, you know, if we didn't figure out, if we didn't study the brain, someone else would study the brain. If, you know, if Elon just didn't make electric cars, someone else would do it eventually. And if Thomas Anderson didn't invent a light bulb, we wouldn't be using candles today. So what you can do as an individual is you can accelerate something that's beneficial and make it happen sooner than whatever. That's really it. That's all you can do. You can't create a new reality that it wasn't going to happen. From that perspective, I would hope that our work, not just me, but our work in general, people would look back and said, hey, they really helped make this better future happen sooner. They helped us understand the nature of false beliefs sooner than why we met up. Now we're so happy that we have these intelligence machines doing these things, helping us that maybe that solved the climate change problem.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's fascinating. I think it's a great way of thinking about it. I have been thinking more of these fundamental mechanisms in the brain as opposed to the social interaction or the interaction between humans and AI systems in the future, which is And I think if you think about that, you're absolutely right. But that's a complex system. I can have intelligence systems that don't have that component, but they're not interacting with people. They're just running something or building someplace or something. I don't know. But if you think about interacting with humans, yeah, it's going to, but it has to be engineered in there. I don't think it's going to appear on its own.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, those are two separate things from a New York project. Don't think it doesn't impact our thinking about the neocortex from a human condition point of view, I think it's core. I mean, we get so much pleasure out of loving people and helping people. So I'll racked it up to old brain stuff and maybe we can throw it under the bus of evolution if you want. That's fine. It doesn't impact how I think about how we model the world. But from a humanity point of view, I think it's essential.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, in my case, I had to give up on my dream of the neuroscience because I was a graduate student at Berkeley and they told me I couldn't do this and I couldn't get funded. And so I went back and went back in the computing industry for a number of years. I thought it would be four, but it turned out to be more. But I said, I'll come back. I'm definitely going to come back. I know I'm going to do this computer stuff for a while, but I'm definitely coming back. Everyone knows that. And the same thing with like raising kids. Well, yeah, you still haven't spent a lot of time with your kids. It's fun, enjoyable. But that doesn't mean you have to give up on other dreams. It just means that you may have to wait a week or two to work on that next idea.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I felt it was something that was both important and that I could make a contribution to. And so all of a sudden it felt like it gave me purpose in life.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It shouldn't be like this, you know. So I read that and I said, wow. I said, I don't have to become like an experimental neuroscientist. I could just look at all those facts and try and become a theoretician and try to figure it out. And I said that I felt like it was something I would be good at. I said, I wouldn't be a good experimentalist. I don't have the patience for it. But I'm a good thinker and I love puzzles. And this is like the biggest puzzle in the world. It's the biggest puzzle of all time. And I get all the puzzle pieces in front of me. Damn, that was exciting.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I was reading the no, excuse me, I was 70, it was 1979, excuse me, 1979. I was reading, so I was at that time, I was 22, I was reading the September issue of Scientific American, which is all about the brain. And then the final essay was by Francis Crick, who of DNA fame. And he had taken his interest to studying the brain now. And he said, you know, there's something wrong here. He says, we got all this data This fact, this is 1979. All these facts about the brain. Tons and tons of facts about the brain. We need more facts, or do we just need to think about a way of rearranging the facts we have? Maybe we're just not thinking about the problem correctly. You know, he says this shouldn't be”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. There were two separate events that compounded one another. One, when I was probably a teenager, it might have been 17 or 18. I made a list of the most interesting problems I could think of. First was why does the universe exist? Seems like not existing is more likely Second one was well, given exists, why does it behave the way it does? It's laws of physics. Why is it equal mc squared not MC cubed? That's an interesting question. Third one was like, what's the origin of life? And the fourth one was what's intelligence. And I stopped there. I said, well, that's probably the most interesting one. And I put that aside as a teenager. But then when I was 22,”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. I think that's right. And so I don't want to sit to someone and say, you know, you need to find a passion and do it. No, maybe you don't. But if you do find something you're passionate about, then you can follow it as far as your passion will let you put up with it.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Person said, You can't do this. I was a graduate student at Berkeley when they said you can't study this problem. No one's going to solve this or you can't get funded for it. Then I went in to do mobile computing and it was like people say, you can't do that. You can't build a cell phone. But all along I kept being motivated because I wanted to work on this problem. I said I want to understand the brain works. And if I got myself, I got one lifetime. I'm going to figure it out, do as best I can. by having that because, you know, it's really, as you point out, Lex, it's really hard to do these things. There's so many downers along the way. Obstacles that get in your way. I'm sitting here happy all the time, but trust me, it's not always like that.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Besides my wife, but I fell in love with this, oh my God, it would be so cool to understand how the brain works. And then I said to myself, that's the most important thing I could work on. I can't imagine anything more important because if you understand how brains work, you build telezerate machines and they could figure out all the other big questions of the world, right? And then I said, I want to understand how I work. So I fell in love with this idea and I became passionate about it. And this is a trope people say this, but it's true because I was passionate about it, I was able to put up almost so much crap. I was in that”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In my case, I didn't start life with any kind of goals. When I was going to college, I was like, oh, why did I study? Well, maybe I'll do this electrical engineering stuff, you know. It wasn't like, you know, today you see some of these young kids are so motivated. They're going to change the world. I was like, you know, whatever. And but then I did fall in love with something.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if you can make things 100 times faster, then there's plenty of incentive there. People are spending millions of dollars, you know, just training some of these networks now, these transformer networks.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Well, we wouldn't model Miss Spikes, but the idea that you that today's neural networks have something called a point neuron, which is a very simple model of a neuron. And by adding dendrites to them, just one more level of complexity that's in biological systems, you can solve problems in continuous learning and rapid learning. So we're trying to take the existing field, and we'll see if we can do it. We're trying to bring the existing field of machine learning commercially along with us. You brought up this idea of keeping paying for it. Commercially, along with us, as we move towards the ultimate goal of a true AI system.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Commercially valuable basis. Another thing we can think we can do is we're going to use these dendrites. Models of I talked earlier about the prediction occurring inside in Iran. That basic property can be applied to existing neural networks and allow them to learn continuously, which is something they don't do today.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, one of the, we didn't talk about this principle. One is sparsity in the brain, most of the neurons are inactive at any point in time, sparse and the connectivity is sparse, and that's different than deep learning networks. So we've already shown that we can speed up existing deep learning networks anywhere from 10 to a factor of 100. I mean, literally 100, and make it more robust at the same time. So this is commercially very, very valuable. If we can prove this actually in the larger systems that are commercially applied today, there's a big commercial desire to do this. Well, sparsity is something that doesn't run really well on existing hardware. It doesn't really run really well on GPUs and on CPUs. And so that would be a way of sort of bringing more brain principles into the existing system on a”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Isn't interesting that we're doing on this regard. So we've decided we used to have a series of these biological principles and we can see how to build these intelligent machines. But we've decided to apply some of these principles to today's machine learning techniques.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No one's going to use bones and feathers and muscles, but they do have wings, and we don't flap them. We have propellers. So when we have the principles of computation that goes on to modeling the world in a brain, we understand those principles very clearly. We have choices on how to implement them. And some of them be biological like and some won't. But I do think there's going to be a huge amount of innovation here. Just think about the innovation when in the computer. They had to invent the transistor. They invented the silicon chip. They had to invent, you know, then this software, I mean, there's millions of things they had to do. Memory systems are going to be similar.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The flaps, which is the same thing. So today's airplanes fly on the same principles as birds, which is observed by, so everyone get that analogy wrong. But let's step back from that, right? Once you understand the principles of flight, you can choose how to implement them.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They already had, at that time, there was already wing shapes, which they had from studying birds. There was already gliders that carry people. The problem was if you put a rudder on the back of a glider and you turn it, the plane falls out of the sky. So the problem was how do you control flight? And they studied birds and they actually had birds in captivity. They watched birds in wind tunnels. They observed them in the wild and they discovered. The secret was the birds twist their wings when they turn. And so that's what they did on the Wright Brothers flyer. They had these sticks that you would twist the wing. And that was their innovation, not the propeller. And today airplanes still twist their wings. We don't twist the entire wing, we just twist the tail end of it.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. You know, can I refund the bird thing a bit? Because I think it's interesting. Really misunderstand this. The Wright brothers, the problem they were trying to solve was controlled flight, how to turn an airplane, not how to propel an airplane. They weren't worried about that.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What are the intelligence just like manifestations of intelligent machines Oh, no, it's going to be totally crazy. We have no idea how this is going to look out yet. You can already see this. Today, of course, we model these things on traditional computers. And now GPUs are really popular with neural networks and so on. But there are companies coming up with fundamentally new physical substrates that are just really cool.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, you won't be able. I think it's just more purely knowledge, you might lead to a better understanding of the beginning of the universe, right? It might lead to a better understanding of... Don't know. I guess the acquisition of knowledge has always been one where you pursue it for its own pleasure and you don't always know what is going to make a difference or not.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, maybe not. Abstractions that form. But also, what if string theory turns out to be true? And then you say, well, we have no reality, no modeling what's going on in those other dimensions that are wrapped into it on each other. Or the multiverse, you know”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that's useful. I mean, it's really useful. Oh, we can build planes, we can build computers, we can do these things, right? I don't think I don't know the answer to that question. I think that's part of the question we're trying to figure out, right? Like, you know, obviously if you end up with a theory of everything that really is a theory of everything and all of a sudden everything comes into play and there's no room for something else, then you might feel like we have a good model of the world.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not prescribe what's right or wrong, just understand that process. If we all understood the process, then I got together and you say, I disagree with you, Jeff. And I said, Lex, I disagree with you that at least we understand that we're both trying to model something. We both have different information which lead to our different models. And therefore, I shouldn't hold it against you, and you shouldn't hold it against me. And we can at least agree that, well, what can we look for that's common ground that tests our beliefs? As opposed to so much we raise our kids on dogma, which is this is a fact and this is a fact and these people are bad and if everyone knew to be skeptical of every belief and why and how their brains do that, I think we might have a better world.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I agree with you. So I don't like the word censorship. At the very end of the book, I ended up with sort of a plea or a recommended force of action. The best way I know how to deal with this issue that you bring up is if everybody understood as part of your upbringing in life, something about how your brain works, that it builds a model of the world. How it worked, how basic it builds that model of the world, and that the model is not the real world. It's just the model. And it's never going to reflect the entire world. And it can be wrong. And it's easy to be wrong. And here's all the ways you can get the wrong model in your head, right?”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so we're prone, inherently prone to having false beliefs because I'm told something, how am I going to know it's right or wrong? And so then we have the scientific process, which says we are inherently flawed. So the only way we can get closer to the truth is by looking for Contrary evid”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We could end tomorrow because some terrorists could get nuclear bombs and blow us all up. Who knows, right? The other thing I'm disappointed is, and it's just, I understand it, I guess you can't really be disappointed. It's just a fact, is that we're so prone to false beliefs. We have a model in our head. The things we can interact with directly, physical objects, people, that model is pretty good. And we can test it all the time, right? I touched something, I look at it, I talk to you, see my model's correct. But so much of what we know is stuff I can't directly interact with. I don't even know because someone told me about it.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Overcoming that part, that is the optimistic view, and I agree with you I worry about it. I'm not saying I'm worrying about it. I think maybe that was your question. I still worry about it.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It seems like it's so hard. It's just a big transition to get humans, all humans to make the transition from like, let's pay no attention to all that ugly stuff over here. Let's just focus on the what's unique about humanity is our knowledge and our intellects.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm disappointed in humanities, humans. I mean, all of us, I'm one, so I'm at this point in myself too. It's kind of a sad state. There's two things that disappoint me. One is... How it's difficult for us to separate our rational component of ourselves from our evolutionary heritage, which is not always pretty, you know. Rape is an evolutionary good strategy for reproduction. Murder can be at times too. Making other people miserable at times is a good strategy for reproduction. And so now that we know that, and yet we have this sort of, you know, you and I can have this very rational discussion talking about intelligence and brains and life and so on.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Promising, and that's, and whether the theories play out exactly this way or not, that is the role that theorists play. And so far, it's worked out well, even though maybe we don't understand all the laws of physics. But so far it's been pretty damn useful, the ones we have. Our theories are pretty useful”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Doing this amazing number of things, there's got to be some underlying principles that are common, and other scientists have come up with the same conclusions.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would take intelligence out of it. Say, you know, Well, okay The evidence we have suggested that the human brain is at the one time extremely messy and complex, but there's some parts that are very regular and structured. That's why we started the neocortex. It's extremely regular in its structure. Unbelievably so. And then I mentioned earlier, the other thing is it's universal abilities. It is so flexible to learn so many things. We haven't figured out what it can't learn yet. We don't know, but we haven't figured out yet. But if you learn things that never was evolved to learn. So those give us hope. That's why I went into this field, because I said, you know, this regular structure, it's...”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think that, you know, the history of science suggests that's not likely to occur. The history of science suggests that look, as a theorist, and we're theorists, you look for simple explanations, right? Fully knowing that whatever simple explanation you're going to come up with is not going to be completely correct. I mean, it can't be. I mean, it is more complexity. But that's the role of theorists play. They give you a framework on which you now can talk about a problem and figure out, okay, now we can start digging more details. The best frameworks stick around while the details change. Again, the classic example is Newton and Einstein, right? Newton's theories are still used. They're still valuable. They're still practical. They're not like wrong. Just they've been refined.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the idea is the brain is a distributed modeling system, it's not controversial at all, right? That's well understood by many people. The question then is, are each cortical column an independent modeling system Could be wrong about that. I don't think so, but I worry about it”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Think there's best relate it to things I'm worried about right now. So we talk about this voting idea, right? It's happening, there's no question it's happening, but it could be far more. There's enough things I don't know about it that it might be working in ways differently than I'm thinking about, what's voting, who's voting, where are representations. I talked about you have a thousand models of a coffee cup. Like that, that could turn out to be wrong because it may be there are a thousand models that are sub models but not really a single model of the coffee cup. I mean, there's things, these are all sort of on the edges, things that I present as like, oh, it's so simple and clean. Well, it's not that. It's always going to be more complex. And there's parts of the theory which I don't understand the complexity well.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is happening right now. This is not some future thing. I'm very optimistic about it because I know about our work and what we're doing. We'll have to prove it to people. I consider myself a rational person. And, you know, until fairly recently, I wouldn't have said that. But right now, where I'm sitting right now, I'm saying, you know, this is going to happen. There's no big obstacles to it. We finally have a framework for understanding what's going on in the cortex. And that's liberating. It's like, oh, it's happening. So I can't see why we wouldn't be able to understand it. I just can't.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm totally optimistic we can do that. I mean, we're making progress at it. I don't see any reason why we can't completely, I mean, completely understand in the sense, you know, we don't really completely understand what all the molecules in this water bottle are doing. But, you know, we have laws that sort of capture it pretty good. And so we'll have that kind of understanding. I mean, it's not like you're going to know what every neuron in your brain is doing.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, especially if they're not completely wrong. Like, Right, Newton's laws are not wrong, they're just Einstein's, they're better”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Understanding how the brain works, we're going to figure that once. That's it. It's going to be figured out once. And after that, that's the answer. And people will study that thousands of years from now. We still venerate Newton and Einstein. And because ideas are exciting even well into the future.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said to myself, how do I make this book relevant to someone reading this 100 years from now? What would they want to know that we were thinking back then? What would make it like that was an interesting, it's still an interesting book. I'm not sure I can achieve that, but that was how I thought about it, because these ideas, especially in the third part of the book, the ones we were just talking about, these crazy, it sounds like crazy ideas about, you know, storing our knowledge and, you know, merging our brains with computers and sending our machines out into space. It's not going to happen in my lifetime. And they may not maybe happen in the next hundred years. It may not happen for a thousand years. Who knows? But we have the unique opportunity right now. Wii U, me and other people like this to sort of at least propose the agenda that might impact the future like that.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know in some sense I do. I'm here because I want to talk about ideas. These ideas transcend me and they transcend this time on our planet. We're talking here about ideas that could be around a thousand years from now or a million years from now. When I wrote my book, I had an audience of mine. And one of the clearest audiences was people. Were people reading this a hundred years from now?”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If ultimately our solar system will die at some point in time, how do we go beyond that? And I think it's possible, if at all possible, we'll have to create intelligent machines that travel throughout the solar system or throughout the galaxy. And I don't think that's going to be humans. I don't think it's going to be biological organisms. So these are just things to think about. I don't want to be like the dinosaur. I don't want to just live. And that was it. We're done, you know.”
2021-08-08 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #208 – Jeff Hawkins: The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source