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  1. “From a distance broadly broadcast, takes no continu activation on our part. This is the key, right? No one has to be seen or running a computer and supplying it with power. It just goes on. So we go, it continues. And I argue that part of the study program should be looking for signals like that. And to look for signals like that, you ought to figure out how would we create a signal? Like what would we create that would be like that, that would persist for millions of years, that would be broadcast broadly that you could see from a distance that was unequivocal, came from an intelligent species. And so I gave that one example because they don't know what I know of actually. And then finally, right.”

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  2. “Other stars. And we do that by seeing the slight dimming of the light as the planets move in front of them. That's how we detect planets elsewhere in our galaxy. What if we created something like that that just rotated around the sun and it blocked out a little bit of the light in a particular pattern that someone said, hey, that's not a planet, that is a sign that someone was once there. What if it's beating up pi, you know, 3. whatever So the idea.”

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  3. “That would last a million years or a billion years. That someone would say, damn it, someone's smart lived there. We know that. That would be a life changing event for us to figure that out. Well, what we're looking for today in the SETI program isn't that. We're looking for very coded signals in some sense. And so I asked myself, what would be a different type of signal one could create? I've always thought about this throughout my life. And the book I gave one possible suggestion, which was we now detect planets going around other suns”

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  4. “That was a very simple idea. I said, you know what? It wouldn't be that hard to put a few satellites going around the sun and we upload Wikipedia every day and that kind of thing. So if we end up killing ourselves, well, it's up there and the next intelligence piece will find it and learn something. They would like that. They would appreciate that. So that's one thing. The next thing I said, well, what if outside of our solar system we have the SETI program, we're looking for these intelligent signals from everybody. And if you do a little bit of math, which I did in the book, and you say, well, what if intelligent species only live for 10,000 years before, you know, technologically intelligent species, like one's are really able to do the stuff we're just starting to be able to do? Well, the chances are we wouldn't be able to see any of them because they would have all been disappeared by now. They've lived for 10,000 years and now they're gone. And so we're not going to find these signals being sent from these people because what kind of signal could you create?”

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  5. “Yeah, you know, could we, and then intelligent life evolved again on this planet? Wouldn't they want to know a lot about us? We knew when they wouldn't be able to ask us questions. So, one very simple thing I said, how would we archive what we know”

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  6. “Well, there's a couple things. I broke it down into two parts, actually three parts. One is, There's a lot of things we know that what if we ended up, what if our civilization collapsed? I'm not talking tomorrow. We could be a thousand years from now, like we don't really know. But historically, it would be likely at some point.”

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  7. “Yeah, that's kind of an odd thing to think about. Although I'm not sure if we have enough knowledge about species going back for billions of years, we might be able to eliminate that possibility. But it's an interesting question. Of course, it's a similar question to, you know, there were lots of intelligent species throughout our galaxy that have all disappeared.”

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  8. “Want our knowledge to be preserved and expanded. Am I okay with humans dying? No, I don't want that to happen. But if it does happen, we were sitting here and this is the last two people on earth who are saying Lex, we blew it. It's all over, right? Yeah. Wouldn't I feel better if I knew that our knowledge was preserved and that we had agents that knew about that left? I would want that. Better than not having that. I make the analogy of like, you know, the dinosaurs, the poor dinosaurs, they live for tens of millions of years. They raise their kids. They fought to survive. They were hungry. They did everything we do. And then they're all gone. Like, you know, and if we didn't discover their bones. Nobody would ever know that they ever existed. Do we want to be like that? I don't want to be like that.”

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  9. “So, to me, the point, if I ask myself, what's the point of life what transcends that ephemeral sort of biological experience is to me, this is my answer, is the acquisition of knowledge, to understand more about the universe and to explore. And that's partly to learn more, right? I don't view it as a terrible thing if the ultimate outcome of humanity is we create systems that are intelligent that are our offspring, but that are not like us at all. And we stay here and live on Earth as long as we can, which won't be forever, but as long as we can. But that would be a great thing to do. It's not like a negative thing.”

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  10. “Different, just like my children are different, they're like me, but they're different. These are more different. I guess maybe I've already, I kind of, I take a very broad view of our life here on earth. I say, you know, why are we living here? Are we just living because we live? Are we surviving because we can survive? Are we fighting just because we want to just keep going? What's the point of it?”

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  11. “And we impart, they represent me, and they also have their own knowledge, and I can impart knowledge to them. So intelligent machines will be like that too, but not limited like us.”

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  12. “Humans, humans are never going to do this, it's just too hard. But could we have a thousand or ten thousand engineer workers up there doing this stuff, building things, terraforming Mars? Sure. Maybe we can move to Mars. But then if we want to go around the universe, should I send my children around the universe or should I send some intelligent machine which is like a child? Represents me and understands our needs here on earth that could travel through space. So it in some sense intelligence allows us to transcend the limitations of our biology and don't think of it as a negative thing. It's in some sense my children transcends my biology too because they live beyond me.”

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  13. “To me, the really exciting thing about AI is sort of its transcendent quality in terms of humanity. We're still biological organisms. We're still stuck here on Earth. It's going to be hard for us to live anywhere else. I don't think you and I are going to want to live on Mars anytime soon. And we're flawed. We may end up destroying ourselves. It's totally possible. If not completely, we could destroy our civilizations. You know, just face the fact. We have issues here, but we can create intelligent machines that can help us in various ways. For example, one example I gave, and that sounds a little sci-fi, but I believe this. We really wanted to live on Mars, we'd have to have intelligent systems that go there and build the habitat for us.”

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  14. “So that's a great question, but let's break it into little pieces. On the one hand, it can make our life better in lots of simple ways. You mentioned like a care robot or something that helps me do things or cooks. I don't know what it does, right? Little things like that. We got better, smarter cars. We can have better agents helping us in our work environment and things like that. To me, that's like the easy stuff, the simple stuff in the beginning. So, in the same way that computers made our lives better in ways, many, many ways, we'll have those kind of things.”

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  15. “But why don't I just create an intelligent machine that doesn't have any of this biological nonsense that has all the same, it's everything except don't burden it with my brain. It has a brain. It is smart. It's like my child, but it's much, much smarter than me. So I have a choice between doing some implant, doing some hybrid weird, you know, biological thing that's bleeding and all these problems and limited by my brain or creating a system which is super smart that I can talk to. That helps me understand the world. They can read the internet, you know, read Wikipedia and talk to me”

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  16. “Yeah, okay. So I think that's, if I think about all the possible gains we can have here, that's a marginal one. It's an individual hey, I'm better. You know, I'm smarter, but you'll find I'm not against it. I just don't think it's earth-changing.”

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  17. “But I don't think even then, I think this kind of a sad future. Like, you know, do I have to plug my brain into a computer? I'm still a biological organism. I assume I'm still going to die. So, what have I achieved? What have I achieved to doing some sort of”

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  18. “I think if you think about today's machine learning, that's what you would conclude. I'm thinking about what's going on in the brain, and I don't reach that conclusion. So we'll have to see.”

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  19. “If you want to merge your brain, like I'm thinking on the internet, I merge my brain with the machine and we're both doing, that's a totally different issue.”

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  20. “Well, I'm just saying no, I think you'd have to have detailed knowledge. You'd have to know exactly what the types of neurons you're connecting to I mean, in the brain, there are these do all different types of things. It's not like a neural network. It's a very complex organism system up here. We talked about the grid cells earlier in the place cells. You have to know what kind of cells you're talking to and what they're doing and how their timing works and all this stuff which you can't today has no way of doing that, right? But I think the problem, you're right that the biological aspect of it, like who wants to have a surgery and have this stuff inserted in your brain, that's a problem. But this is when we solve that problem. I think the information coding aspect is much worse. I think that's much worse. It's not like what they're doing today. Today, it's simple machine learning stuff because you're doing simple things.”

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  21. “Think it's even harder, and it's not easy to do when you're talking about hundreds of signals, it's a totally different thing to say talking about billions of signals.”

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  22. “It's the one thing that, okay, I can learn to think some patterns to make something happen. It's just quite another thing to have a system, a computer, which actually knows exactly which cells it's talking to and how it's talking to them and interacting in a way like that. Very, very difficult. We're not getting anywhere closer to that.”

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  23. “Just because they're somewhat like me, I don't feel I'm them and they don't feel like I'm me. So if you split them apart, you have two people. So we can come back to what makes what consciousness. We can talk about that. But we don't have a remote consciousness. I'm not sitting there going, oh, I'm conscious of that. I mean that system over there. Let's stay on our topic. One was uploading a brain. Going to happen in 100 years, maybe a thousand, but I don't think people are going to want to do it. The merging your mind with the neural link thing, right? Again, really, really difficult. It's one thing to make progress to control a prosthetic arm. It's another to have like ability.”

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  24. “No, but I think that machine would feel like it's you too. A few people just like a child, right? I have two daughters They're independent people. I created them, well, partly.”

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  25. “And so I don't think it's going to be a thing because people by the time we're able to do this, if ever, because you have to replicate the entire body, not just the brain. It's really, I walk through the issues. It's really substantial.”

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  26. “Uploading the Extremely, really difficult to do. We have no idea how to do this, even remotely right now. So it would be a very long way away, but I make the argument you wouldn't like the result. And you wouldn't be pleased with results. It's really not what you think it's going to be. Imagine I could upload your brain into a computer right now. Now the computer's sitting there going, hey, I'm over here. Great. Get rid of that old bio person. I don't need them. Still sitting here What are you going to do? No, no, that's not me. I'm here, right? Are you going to feel satisfied with that? Then, but people imagine, look, I'm on my deathbed and I'm about to, you know, expire and I push the button and I'm uploaded. But think about it a little differently.”

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  27. “I gave the example of my car. My car turns the wheel and applies the accelerator and the brake as I say until it decides there's something dangerous. And then it doesn't do that Now, that was something it didn't decide to do. It's something we programmed into the car. And so good. It was a good idea, right? The question again isn't like if we create an intelligent system, will it ever... Ignore our commands, of course it will on sometimes. Is it going to do it because it came up with its own goals that serve its purposes and it doesn't care about our purposes? No, I don't think that's going to happen”

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  28. “But even, I think that's also not getting at the issue I was just talking about, which is self-replication. I mean, self-replication means there's no entity involved other than the entity that's replicating. And so if there's humans in the loop, that's not really self replicating. Unless somehow we're duped into it.”

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  29. “That uses a factory that's really dangerous. You know, nature's way of supplicating is so amazing. You know, it doesn't require anything. It just, you know, the thing and resources and it goes, right? If I said to you, you know what, we have to build, our goal is to build a factory that can build new factories. And it has to end-to-end supply chain. Buying the resources, get the energy. I mean, that's really hard. No one's doing that in the next 100 years.”

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  30. “All right, so let's say that's true. So, does that mean we don't build intelligent systems? No, that means we regulate, we understand the risks, we regulate them. You know, look, there's a lot of things we could do as society which have some sort of financial benefit to someone, which could do a lot of harm. And we have to learn how to regulate those things. We have to learn how to deal with those things. I will argue this. I would say the opposite. I would say having intelligent machines at our disposal will actually help us in the end more because it'll help us understand these risks better. It help us mitigate these risks better. There might be ways of saying, oh, well, how do we solve climate change problems? How do we do this or how do we do that? that just like computers are dangerous in the hands of the wrong people, but it's been so great for so many other things. We live with those dangers. And I think we have to do the same with intelligent machines. But we have to be constantly vigilant about this idea of a bad actors doing bad things with them. And B, don't ever, ever create a self-replicating system. And by the way, I don't even know if you could create a self-replicating system.”

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  31. “And you don't get evolution unless you self replicating. And so I think that's the gist of this argument that people have trouble separating those two out. They just think, oh, yeah, intelligence looks like us. And look at the damage we've done to this planet. Look how we've destroyed all these other species. Yeah, well, we replicate. 8 billion of us or 7 billion of us now.”

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  32. “Not risky at all. It's the self replication side of the equation that's risky. And I'm not dismissing that. I'm scared as hell.”

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  33. “Let's separate out. I mean, you don't need to, all you need is some terrorist who wants to do it because it doesn't take a lot of money to make viruses. Let's just separate out what's risky and what's not risky. I'm arguing that the intelligence side of this equation is not risky.”

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  34. “All right, but so is maybe editing viruses is a good way too. I don't know. The point is as a society, when we want to look at existential risks, the existential risks we face that we can control almost all evolve around self-replication.”

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  35. “Or even the virtual world. Self replication because self-replication is dangerous. It probably were more likely to be killed by a virus or a human-hand-vineered virus. Anybody can create the technology is getting almost anybody, well, not anybody, but a lot of people could create a human engineered virus that could wipe out humanity. That is really dangerous. No intelligence required just self-replication. So we need to be careful about that. So when I think about AI, I'm not thinking about robots building robots. Don't do that. Don't build, you know, just.”

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  36. “Well, I think now you hit on the right thing. The real thing we need to be worried about, Lex, is self replication. Is the thing that we're”

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  37. “Let's use computers as an analogy again, right? I build a computer, it's a universal computing machine. I can't predict what people are going to use it for. They can build all kinds of things. They can even create computer viruses. It's all kinds of stuff. So there's some unknown about its utility and about where it's going to go. But on the other hand, I pointed out that once I build a computer, it's not going to fundamentally change how it computes. It's like I use the example of a register, which is a part, internal part of a computer. You know, I say it can't just sit because computers don't evolve. They don't replicate. They don't evolve. The physical manifestation of the computer itself is not going to, there's certain things it can't do. So you can break into things like things that are possible to happen we can't predict and things that are just impossible to happen unless we go out of our way to make them happen they're not going to happen unless somebody makes them happen”

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  38. “Yes, but you can even, I'll go further. I don't think AI systems are ever going to try to. I don't think AI systems are ever going to say, I'm going to ignore you. I'm going to do what I think is best. I don't think that's going to happen. At least not in the way I'm talking about it. So the Twitter recommendation algorithm is an interesting example.”

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  39. “Well, and AI, maybe particularly so. Okay, so am I worried about it? Yeah, I'm totally worried about it. The thing where the narrow component we're talking about now is the existential risk of AI. So, I want to make that distinction because I think AI can be applied poorly, it can be applied in ways that people are going to understand the consequences of it. These are all potentially very bad things, but they're not the AI system creating this existential risk on its own. And that's the only place I disagree with other people”

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  40. “That destroy the world. No, uh, well, first of all, this is back. One thing I want to say is that AI is a dangerous technology. I'm not denying that.”

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  41. “Saying, no, it won't be like us, it'll be really smarter, but it won't be like us at all. But I'm coming from that, not because I'm just guessing. I'm not into it using intuition. I'm basing it. I'm like, okay, I understand this thing works. This is what it does. It makes money to you.”

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  42. “Something I understand completely, or at least well enough, to know what it's on. I'm guessing, I know what this thing's going to do. And I think most people who are worried, they have trouble separating out, they don't have the unknowledge or the understanding about what is intelligence, how is it manifest in the brain, how is it separate from these other functions in the brain? And so the imagine it's going to be human-like or animal-like. It's going to have the same sort of drives and emotions we have. But there's no reason for that. That's just because there's unknown. If the unknown is like, oh my God, I don't know what this is going to do. We have to be careful. It could be like us, but really smarter.”

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  43. “Was the word intuition, and Sam Harris used the word intuition too. And when he used that word, I immediately stopped and said, oh, that's the crux of the He's using intuition. I'm not speaking about my intuition. Speaking about something I understand something I'm going to build something I am building”

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  44. “You have to put it inside Again, think of the map analogy, right? A map on its own doesn't do anything. This inert, it just said you can learn, but it's just inert. So we have to embed it somehow in something to do something.”

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  45. “So we can build those things in. So that's a very interesting problem, how to build those in. I think my differing opinion about the risks of AI for most people is that people assume that somehow those things will just appear automatically and it'll evolve. And intelligence itself begets that stuff or requires it. But it's not. Intelligence of the neurocortex equivalent doesn't require this. The neocortex equivalent just says I'm a learning system. Tell me what you want me to learn. And I'll tell you ask me questions and I'll tell you the answers. But in that, again, it's again like a map. A map has no intent about things, but you can use it to solve problems.”

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  46. “You have to have that, but it has to have some kind of embodiment, physical or virtual. It has to have some sort of goals. It has to have some sort of ideas about dangers, about things it shouldn't do. Like, you know, like we build in safeguards into systems. We have them in our bodies. We put them in the cars, right? My car follows my directions until the day it sees I'm about to hit something and it ignores my directions and puts the brakes on.”

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  47. “This is not hand wavy stuff. It's down in the details. I'm going to build it. And I know what it's going to look like. And I know what it's going to behave. I know what the kind of things it could do and the kind of things it can't do. Just like when I build a computer, I know it's not going to on its own decide to put another register inside of it. It can't do that. No way, no matter what your software does, it can't add a register to the computer. So in this way, when we build AI systems, we have to make choices about the how we embed them. So I talk about this in the book. I said, you know, intelligence system is not just the neocortex equivalent.”

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  48. “Humans, it could understand that just like I can study an animal and learn something about that animal. I could study apes and learn something about their culture and so on. I don't have to be an ape to know that. I may not be completely, but I can understand something. So Intelligent Machine can model that. That's just part of the world. Is this part of the interactions? The question we're trying to get at, will the intelligent machine have its own personal agency that's beyond what we assign to it or its own personal goals or will evolve and create these things? My confidence comes from understanding the mechanisms I'm talking about creating.”

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  49. “You know, people in different cultures have different interactions like that. If you cross the street in different cities, in different world, they have different ways of interacting. I would say that's learned, and I would say an intelligence system can learn that too. But that does not lead, and the intelligence system can understand...”

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  50. “About it, so I think there's a legitimate problem, or not problem, a question asked if you have this modeling system, what's it going to model? Right, what's its desire? What's its goal? What are we applying it to? Right? So that's an interesting question. One thing, and it depends on the application. It's not something that inherent to the modeling system. It's something we apply to the modeling system in a particular way. So if I wanted to make a really smart car, it would have to know about driving in cars and what's important in driving in cars. It's not going to figure that out on its own. It's not going to sit there and say, you know, I've understood the world and I've decided, you know, no, no, no, no. We're going to have to tell it. We're going to have to say like, so imagine I make this car really smart. It learns about your driving habits. It learns about the world. And it's just, you know, is it one day going to wake up and say, you know what? I'm tired of driving and doing what you want. I think I have better ideas about how to spend my time.”

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