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“Yeah, there's actually data that both the THCs that do get you high and the others also that don't can have that effect. And there's some cool startup companies that have been working on trying to isolate and now test in human patients the you don't get high versions of those compounds or chemically modifying them and by the way turning them into an eye drop so that it's really just treating the eye and make that really accessible. You know, you don't want to be on your glaucoma treatment and not able to drive.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know legal for medical use in many states and frankly recreational use also in many states and certainly accessible in every state can i take cannabis cannabis whether you smoke it or eat it in the brownie or take the chewy it lowers your eye pressure If you're using the version which are available where you feel a little high from it, you get that good feeling. The problem is that it only really lowers the eye pressure kind of during that time that you're getting high. So I tell patients like it works, but you'd have to be high 24-7. So maybe you should just use this eyedrop instead, right?”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And as you say, if I take your eye pressure in the morning and then the next week, I take it in the afternoon and I say, oh my God, your pressure's gone up. I got to take you to surgery. Well, wait a second. It might just be because I'm measuring it different times. Now, you brought up like the most common question that I get asked. I'll tell you the most common question that I get asked by patients with glaucoma is, hey, can I take cannabis? And, you know, by the way, it's like.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Other main risk factor for glaucoma is actually increasing eye pressure. If you have real high pressure, you're going to get glaucoma. But a lot of people with normal looking eye pressure can also develop glaucoma. It's just like they were more susceptible. And the eye pressure isn't just the same number. We've got short-term variability and long-term variability. So long-term is like, you know, this month it might be whatever number. Next year it might be a little higher, a little lower. You know, you can vary through your life. But there's also this short-term variability. It actually varies in our diurnal cycle. So everybody has a diurnal cycle where your circadian rhythm, you know, and some of us like myself are night people and we love to be up at night and getting up in the morning isn't our favorite thing and other people are the opposite and all this stuff relates to our diurnal cycle our circadian rhythm you know you can try to take melatonin and affect that but your eye pressure also varies by that”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You'll have it. There are two main risk factors for glaucoma. One is increasing age, and we're all working desperately on correcting that one. We don't have a slam dunk treatment for that yet.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. So let me just back up one step. Glaucoma, after Alzheimer's disease, glaucoma is the most common neurodegenerative disease. It's the number one cause of irreversible vision loss in the world. It's a degeneration of that optic nerve connection from the eye to the brain. So those retinal ganglion cells that are collecting the data in the retina and their axon fibers, those telephone wires running down the optic nerve carrying that, all the vision from the eye to the brain, they degenerate in glaucoma. If you take all comers, it's around 2% of people in an aging population that will have developed glaucoma. If you have a primary family member, a parent, a sibling, a child with glaucoma, your risk probably goes up to about 20. So it runs in families. But just because your parent has it doesn't mean 100%.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People are excited about it and are funding the startup companies and taking that science into that kind of either health domain, health span domain, or consumer domain, like how do we get the normals protected against the future. There's a lot going on there. That's on the input side.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ratinol ganglion cells in our retinas in headsets where we devise cues. Basically, imagine you're flying through like kind of that Star Trek field of stars, you know, like you're going into hyperspace, right? And engage and you're going into hyperspace and all those stars speed up by you. Those are great stimuli for some of our direction sensitive cells in the eye. And could those actually stimulate those cells to then like perform better or not degenerate in disease. And so we've been studying those kinds of questions, cognito is engaged in that kind of work. And then how does that affect what's going on in the brain? Very reasonable that that's going to actually lead to specific patterns of activity, flexibility, plasticity that are going to change our brains. And the idea that some of that work can not happen only in the academic world, but”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You got to match that up. So it's really cool. Like, we actually know in the eye, the visual stimuli, you were talking about flashes of light, but it turns out like different cells in our eye respond differentially to different stimuli. We have some cells that fire when the lights go on. We call those very creatively on cells. We have some cells that fire when the lights go off called off cells. We have some cells that are firing like between blue and yellow, others that are differentiating between red and green. We have some cells that are in charge of motion detection in the eye. And all that data has got to get back to the brain. But if we stimulate, for example, the motion direction.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In addition to it participating in the processing of whatever that area of the brain does, like in the retina, it's your vision, obviously, it also stimulates pathways like plasticity and responsiveness to the survival and growth factors. And we and others have shown that very clearly in animal research over the years, that you need not just like the right growth factor circulating around in the brain, but you also need the right levels of electrical activity so that the neurons are maximally responsive.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think so. And input through the visual system and output through the visual system are both looking really interesting these days. So you're talking about input. Like what can we stick in through the visual system to influence the rest of our brain, brainwave activity, plasticity like we were talking about before help preventing cognitive decline? There is very strong data, for example, that if you give the right amount of electrical activity of our neurons in the eye and the brain. So the neurons in the brain talk to each other through electrical activity, like little wires. And too much activity is bad. I mean, really too much activity is epilepsy, for example. Too little is clearly bad too. If you have a stroke, then you've got no electrical activity in that area of your brain and it's just not working anymore. But providing like kind of that sweet spot in the middle of electrical activity.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's psychological dependence. It's just like what I went through as soon as I started wearing those readers by accident. I didn't think I needed them. I was still reading off my phone. It was fine. But as soon as I experienced that extra crisp vision, I was like, well, I like that. I got psychologically dependent because, like, who doesn't want their best vision?”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's an important myth to dispel, especially when it comes to presbyopia and wearing reading glasses. Between age 40 and around 60 or so, that lens stiffens and stiffens and stiffens. And the first year you only need plus 1.25 glasses, and then three years later you're like, I need plus 1.5 plus 150s. A few years after that, you're moving up to the 2.0s. Eventually you'll peak out at around 2.5 or 3.0s because that's the difference basically. That's the refractive, the glass is difference between viewing something at infinity, which from an optics perspective is actually just kind of like three feet away or further. And viewing something at 14 inches, like comfortable reading distance right in front of us. So 2.5 to 3 power of those readers is all you're going to need. But you're going to progress through those numbers, whether you wear the readers or not.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Andor depression, you can reverse a significant amount of that decline in either of those domains. And so it just, again, it speaks to the interplay of vision with our mental health, our cognitive health. This is long-term important stuff.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really critical piece around depression and mental health. Anxiety is vision, the work that Andy Huberman had done on visual fear and how that plays into the fear and anxiety pathways, as well as the depression pathways. And not only does visual decline accelerate cognitive decline, possibly because in part because of how depression then plays in with cognitive. I mean, these things are all clearly related to each other, but also remarkably If you have low vision, let's say from something as simple and correctable as cataracts, a blurring of the lens that happens with age, if we all live to 100, we're all going to need cataract surgery. Some people younger, some people older. But if you do cataract surgery and restore vision in an older person who appears to be suffering is suffering with cognitive decline”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely, actually. One of our faculty here has done some of the really foundational research showing that correlation between vision loss and cognitive decline and the loss of input, again, vision is our biggest input sense. It's driving, you know,”
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“The data suggests that the mechanism of action is kind of giving a little protective booster shot to our mitochondria so that they don't get dysfunctional, whether that's dysfunctional just from normal use throughout the day or dysfunctional because you happen to have a disease that's getting in the way of those mitochondria. Now, we don't know what the right dose is. We don't know what the right brightness is. All we know is that in these initial things that have been tested, initial brightness of how and how many minutes, three minutes a day, for example, there's a signal there. There's something working there. Should we have everybody buying one on the internet right now, hopping on Amazon, spending 25 bucks, spending three minutes a day? You know, we don't have the data to support that. Is it going to hurt? Probably not. You know, Tiff, it's a problem because we've got so many things that are like, oh, that looks promising. And we just, we need a little more science. We need a little more study.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of the visible spectrum. And definitely mitochondria are implicated. Mitochondria are the little like kind of powerhouses, energy sources inside the cell. They are big player in converting the sugar a cell takes in into energy that the cell can use for all of the cellular processes. So our bodies clearly need functioning mitochondria. In fact, one of the big features common across many neurodegenerative diseases of the eye and the brain is dysfunction of mitochondria. There's an FDA approved red light therapy for patients with macular degeneration, but there's good data that it may also be supportive or protective in other eye diseases. And we're talking small doses like this is not overwhelmingly bright lights. And we're talking about minutes a day. You don't have to sit in front of it for two hours a day. So minutes a day. So it's exciting.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Myopia is nearsightedness, and you know it's an epidemic more common in Asians or people of Asian heritage, but common in everyone. And kids can get nearsighted. If you're a little nearsighted, it might be annoying to wear glasses. If you get more severely nearsighted, it actually can lead to all sorts of problems inside the eye, you know, real severe vision loss even early in life. So that's a big one. And then What was really shocking was it turns out that a small dose of daily red light can slow down progression of myopia in young people. We're talking about teens and younger even. So what's even more shocking to me is that it also works with violet light. So how does it work with light at the two ends?”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Would say, like, you know, if you want to sort of at least hit some of the science or science adjacent web resources, you're going to want to use a few technical terms in there like concussion, neuro rehab, neurorehabilitation, plasticity, and then some of the terms you've already been using, you know, visual perception exercises. And then look, in these situations, you've got to look not just at the content, but of the source, right? And so is this like a dude on his blog or is this? Coming from a foundation or an institute or one of the academic centers or some of the choices like that.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That in the limited clinical studies that have been done point to a positive effect of basically rehabbing, like neuro rehabbing you back. Now that, of course, is back from injured to normal, but the idea that that can also induce the same kind of plastic remodeling in our eye and brain, and particularly the eye brain connection. In patients who are starting from normal and trying to get themselves up to supranormal, try to improve performance, visual performance, we've set up here a whole human performance laboratory really just to study these questions. And the data rolling in make it look like, hey, there's something here. This is definitely worth chasing.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Military very, very big issue. And the line in between mild concussions, severe concussion, traumatic brain injury, that's all on a spectrum, a continuum. And there's actually decent data from that group of people that if you get a concussion, actually visual symptoms are some of the more significant symptoms, you know, ability to focus, ability to sleep, and vision are three of the big symptoms that people get in that concussion through TBI spectrum. And those can be debilitating, right? And kids are out of school, they're missing high school, you know, for weeks or longer. It can be really debilitating. Obviously, if you're older adult and you're in your job situation, really tough. And it turns out, though, that there are visual perception exercises that you can put patients through in those situations.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Actually, reinforces the visual perception training. So that's one great example. Another great example is after concussion. So concussion, traumatic brain injury, of course, very common in athletes because they're more likely to get into the head bumps and things like that, but happens all the times in kids.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, absolutely. And it does get back to that idea of like visual training, reducing frame rate, training on visual perception. There's actually a fair amount of data. Actually, there's enough data to even say like there's elements that make it better. For example, if you do visual training where you're just showing yourself being shown these different objects, maybe they're getting smaller, dimmer, blurrier, et cetera, your ability to train off of that is significantly better if it demands a behavioral outcome, a motor action. So for example, you've got to point at the right one or choose something. And it's not just that you're mentally thinking that was the sharper image. It's actually the motor output of pushing a button or pointing at something or doing an activity that actually”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By using some of these dosing some of these drugs at appropriate doses, obviously, we've got to be careful. We don't know what the right dose is yet. But it's really worth looking at because there's clear evidence that these are relevant and likely to have some effects. We just got to figure out a little bit more like how, what's the right dose. By the way, when you're doing it, should you be doing some behavioral training like visual training? But these things act on the brain. And about a third of our brain inside our skull is dedicated to processing vision.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The retina in the back of the eye and the optic nerve that connects the retina to the brain, those are developmentally an outgrowth from the brain. They are part of the brain. They are part of the central nervous system. And we barely know about how to influence the wiring, the plasticity. Are there drugs that we can give? You know, a lot of people have talked about gabapentin, drugs in that space. Obviously microdosing and LSD is a really hot area right now for like inducing plasticity. We actually, there's actually great science showing in animal models and a little bit now in humans that you can actually reopen brain plasticity.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Internationally is actually vitamin B3 nicotinamide, which has, you know, really been linked to a number of good potential kind of medical uses and is receiving a lot of study. There's actually international clinical trials, including one here in the US, actually testing whether it could restore vision in certain eye diseases like glaucoma, which is my specialty. So definitely some hints in that direction. We already talked about.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Great childhood, get the conceit of vegetables. We definitely exercised that ourselves as parents. Are it too clinically proven if you have moderate age-related macular degeneration to slow down your vision loss? Does that mean it doesn't work at all if you have mild age-related macular degeneration or if you have no age-related macular degeneration? It might just be like we haven't done a study big enough to detect those effects. As you say, like that's probably not going to hurt. So, you know, feel free if you want. We can't prove it's helping, but feel free. There are other supplements that have, you know, received some study that maybe suggest there isn't much going on there that, again, probably not going to hurt. Some patients take CoQ10, some patients take ginkgo. There's actually maybe the hottest topic in supplement vitamin space right now.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are some things that we have a pretty decent sense on. And some of these supplements. First of all, eating a lot of carrots is probably not going to actually, you know.”
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“Next to them, the cones. Cons are great for color vision. They're great for bright lights. They're what we use most of the day. That's what you and I are using mainly right now. The rods and the cones collect all that light. They process it and transmogrify it into electrical signals. And those electrical signals are then propagated back forward through the retina. There's some internal processing layers in the retina. So it's not just a layer of film. You're actually doing some computation right there in the retina. And then they hit what are called retinal ganglion cells. And those are the cells that then send a process across the surface of the retina. It's an axon, but it's like a telephone wire. And that then goes back out the back of the eye into what we call the optic nerve. And that optic nerve connects the eye to the brain. So those retinal ganglion cells are collecting all the data and sending it all back through the”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then it goes through the gelatinous middle part of the eye. We call it the vitreous after the lens is called the vitreous. That's where floaters are, people who get floaters, they're floating. It's like little concretions of proteins and stuff floating in the vitreous. It's a gel. As we get older, that gel turns to water, kind of shrinks up. Our eye doesn't shrink because it fills in with, you know, salt water, but the gel shrinks up. And then the light hits the retina. And our retinas are what we call inverted. So the light actually passes through almost all of the retina, and then it hits the rods and the cones. And those are the photoreceptors. They absorb the light, like the photons of light. The rods are really only good for nighttime vision. They're only good at like very low light. If you go into normal daytime vision sitting here in the room, whatever, those are getting bleached out. You're not really using your rods too much.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, absolutely. So light comes in the front, goes through the clear window in the front of our eye called the cornea. You can have corneal diseases, obviously, that block that light from coming through clearly. But if it's healthy, that light comes through clearly. The cornea is curved on the front, and that curvature is actually responsible for curving most of the light into the back of the eye. Then the light goes through your pupil. So that's the iris, which is brown in me, but brown, blue, hazel. So that's our iris. And the iris can open and close like we were talking about a minute ago. Comes through the middle of that, the open middle part of that, goes through the lens. The lens is like, does fine focusing, you know, a little focusing from far to near, that kind of thing. That's what we were saying stiffens as we age, so we can't go far to near as well as we get older, kind of passing 40 years old.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That eye and read through a pinhole. And if you can read better through the pinhole, you actually have better vision and could correct it with glasses. So now we could just give an eye drop that kind of makes your pupil closer to a pinhole, and then it allows you to see without glasses, near or far. And in fact, people are kind of using it now for near vision for that presbyopia you were talking about in the beginning.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“FDA approved eye drops. And what they actually do is they bring your pupil size down by having your iris constrict to a smaller circle. And it turns out that if you have refractive error, so you need glasses, you know, the shape of the front of your eye, the shape of your lens is imperfect. You have a little bit of glasses or contacts or whatever to correct that, including if it's not focusing up to close. You can have reading glasses that change that refractive, you know, that light coming into your eye so that you're focusing up at close. If you come down to a pinhole, you actually kind of normalize the light so that it's as if it's all coming from infinity and you actually kind of correct refractive error. One of the ways we can tell if someone needs glasses is we have you read the eye chart. And then we have you read the eye chart through a little pinhole, you know, a little device you stick in front of.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But if we practiced and trained in those goggles where you've got to play basketball, throw and catch, shoot, whatever, you know, throw baseball back and forth at 70% vision. And then we put you in the game back with 100% vision, right? You're going to be like better, faster reflex time, all of that, like anti-coordination. So it's actually like some of these supranormal visual tactics are actually trainable and there's tools that athletes are using, but they're accessible to all of us. Yeah. You can grab one of those tips.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Frames per second, you know, kind of like our computer screens do, right? And so if you actually subtract out a couple of frames, so if you put on some glasses that dim one out of every thirtieth of a second, or they dim two out of every 30th or push it three. And now you're giving up visual data. And I throw a basketball at you If you've got your regular vision, you'll catch it. But if I'm only giving you 90% of your vision or 80% or 70 or 60% of that vision, you might miss the ball.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They have better vision, they have better reflex time, they have sharper vision. You know, we talk about like 2020 vision. That means like I can see it 20 feet what a quote normal person can see at 20 feet. So I have normal vision. But you can have 2012 vision, which means like you can see at 20 feet what normal people can see at 12 feet, right? You've got better than normal. And it turns out like a lot of pro athletes have that. And then the next question becomes, and you just kind of hinted at it right there. Can we train to supernormal vision? Can we like induce an almost no one studies that? But there are some really cool tools and toys that actually might have that effect. And so you brought up one of them. So we see like our cones inside of our eyes, you know, we've got rods and cones. The cones, they've got a refresh rate around 30 to 60.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It raises a really cool question that you're raising, which is, you know, like as an eye doctor, I spend a lot of time and as a researcher, spent a lot of time, we could come back to talking about like, how do we prevent the sick from losing vision on all these big eye diseases? We could come back to that. But there's a much bigger world of people who have pretty good vision. Maybe they need glasses, but they've got good vision. And how do we think about the difference, not from sick to normal, but how do we think about the difference from normal to supra normal? And we know there's supranormal because when, for example, as you bring up professional athletes get studied,”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so now I'm in them too, and I'm pretending to look so young with you not wearing them right now. But here they are, just in case.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Presbyopia Vision of the Old. So I'll tell you just a funny side note. You know, we all get that. I like you have gone my whole life without needing glasses until I hit around age 40. And when everyone hits around age 40, our lens inside the eye. Won't compress and reshape to focus up close. So your distance vision might still be great, but you just can't bring that focus in as tight. And I discovered it accidentally in myself.”
2025-08-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #823: Dr. Jeffrey Goldberg — Creating Supranormal Vision, Cutting-Edge Science for Eye Health, Supplements, Red Light Therapy, and The Future of Eyesight Restoration · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT