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Jennifer Granholm

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first: 2017-05-08
most recent: 2017-05-08
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“So much, David. Thanks for having here with us. Yes, I'm so glad to be here at the Institute of Politics. Thanks for doing this for these students”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was a great experience, and he did a great, I thought he was, you know, we were all worried that he was going to be condescending or sound condescending because he knew so much about Washington and she was an outsider and trying to lure him into those traps. At the actual debate, he was phenomenal”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Totally. In fact, after the debate was over, Joe Biden called me and I was like, Joe, we anticipated everything. You nailed it. It was so perfect. Yeah.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sarah Palin, wow, what a surprise. That was a shock. So I wanted to respect her and respect the character. So I did a lot of homework on it, and it was a totally fun assignment. Thank you for tapping me.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I wanted to take the assignment very seriously, so I did my research. I looked up, I watched every debate that she did before coming to this assignment. I'd hold briefing books of her policy positions. I wanted to take her seriously at the time she was starting to become a bit of a joke. But early on, did you know her as a former governor? As a fellow government, a fellow governor, right. And in fact, when McCain picked her, because she was very quiet in the governor's meetings. You know, there's all this chest thumping around the National Governors Association meetings. And she was pretty quiet. And I liked her. I mean, she was, you know, she was a maverick, as she would say in Alaska. She took on the establishment, but she was really thoughtful and, you know, quite quiet. And so when she was selected, you know, a few of us were on the phone.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's insane if he's talking about creating jobs and he is turning down the biggest opportunity for job creation in the 21st century, then he is harming us. If he pulls out of the Paris Agreement, I mean, where are this is back to us being small, right? The climate accord, us being small and fearful. You don't even have to talk about climate. You're dealing with Republicans who think climate change is not real, whatever. Just look at the trends of demand. Even if you don't believe it, look at the trends for reducing, for demanding products that reduce climate change. We should be making those. Those are advanced technologically. Sophisticated products, we should be building them. And if we don't have strategies in place to create jobs that put people to work, shame on us.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we applied for it, and Michigan got a good number of them. And we went around and got the supply chain for the lithium ion battery. You need a company to do anodes, cathodes, separator materials, electrolytes. We had nothing like that in this country. So I went to Japan and I went to Korea to try to bring that whole supply chain here. And we ended up creating an ecosystem which created jobs for people because of the opportunity that the Obama administration gave us to vie for that. All of these economic competitors are doing that very thing. They are finding ways to get those jobs in their countries. And shame on us if we don't do the same thing. So I think it's a huge opportunity for us economic opportunities.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“From? Are they going to get everything from China, everything from Europe, or are we going to get in this game and create jobs for our people? So to me, this is an economic issue. And I think that in red states, in purple states, and in blue states, this is a jobs message. Good paying, advanced jobs. Just, I mean, when President Obama decided that we were going to be building the vehicle battery for the electric car, he put out an”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if you look at any of the projections from any of the economic analysts like Bloomberg, New Energy Finance, they will show you. And if you're an accountant in a business and you're looking for trends, this sector, the clean energy sector is huge. It's huge. I mean, the projections of 20, 30, 40, 50 percent increases in demand for these products should be an indication that, hey, maybe there is an opportunity for us to be making these products. And maybe our arguments about climate change should be really arguments about who's going to make the products that they're going to demand reduction, that are going to produce reductions in climate change and that the rest of the world is going to be buying. The rest of the globe is already on this and they're buying these products from someone. The question is, where are they going to get us?”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and to be fair, the polling showed that they were secure, right? I mean, the polling was totally off. So everybody assumed that it was going to be fine. And we were all shocked.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think there are some who want to say, don't try to go after those voters because they're gone to us to trump. And I just disagree because a lot of them voted for Barack Obama. Who showed”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, and every, you know, unless you're Native American, of course, everybody somehow made their way here or were brought here. But, you know, that's what makes that diversity is American exceptionalism. So Democrats need to take back patriotism and define what America is on our terms. And the fact that we have allowed it to be defined in a, you know, by a small and fearful way is, I think, such a disservice to the memory of Ronald Reagan for Pete's sake.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Place to bring cases. So we don't want, I don't think that people want to see a small America, a closed America, an afraid America. I think they want us to lead, but lead in a way that doesn't give everything away to our economic competitors, that lead in a way that has us leading, and people coming behind in our draft. That is not the fearful way that Donald Trump is leading, the small way, the small America, the build up the wall, the be afraid of the other, is really not who we are. And to me, I think Democrats need to take that back. You know, the Reagan's shining city on a hill, when I was, when I took my oath of allegiance to this country when I became a citizen, you know, I wanted to be part of a nation that welcomed immigrants to help. Build this young country.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that people are not afraid of trade. People who build things understand that we want trade and that we can export. The question is, are we trading in a way that gives away the store to our economic? The fact that we've been, I mean, President Obama beefed up the number of cases that he brought on behalf of American employers at the World Trade Organization. That was good. But we still need a tiger at the World Trade Organization to stand up for people. But we understand that we've got to be able to, you know, make products stamped made in America and send them across the world.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's going to do something on trade perhaps. He's going to try to renegotiate NAFTA. And I think that's great. I think you should renegotiate NAFTA. You should close some of the civil like. What about withdrawing from?”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but the solutions are really important. We should be the place where all of this advanced manufacturing stuff happens”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I don't want to criticize really. I mean, honestly, because I think people put their heart and soul into this getting it right. And I think she was amazing. She is amazing in so many ways. For our next candidate If we do not speak to people's gut about this issue of jobs, their heart about it and follow up with policy, as you know, people vote not with their heads, but with their heart and their gut, and we need to be on our knees. We need to be obsessed with this question. We need to lose sleep at night. I want leaders who lose sleep at night over this question about how to create jobs, good paying jobs in America in a global economy. I think we can own that. Donald Trump has a lot of rhetoric.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been sort of a nag to everybody about us focusing on jobs. Jobs. Hello, jobs is the number one issue that every poll is about this. We should be using, we should be like obsessed about using the word jobs, good paying jobs everywhere we go. And she had all of the right policies. Really, I mean, the policies that they developed, I was actually on the transition team. And, you know, the policies that she was developing were all the right ones. And what we feels like.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Greenville, the Greenville story happened in my at the end of my first year. And when he said to me when the representative from Electrolux said There's nothing you can do to compensate for the fact that we can pay a dollar fifty seven an hour. and this was in Greenville. I thought, oh my God, we have got Greenville's all over this state. What does this mean for all of these communities that have manufacturing facilities that could go to war as Mexico? So we got inkling of it that this was, as I say, a structural change and not a cyclical one in the early two thousands, which is why we were so determined to add new sectors to the economy so that we weren't just relying on manufacturing.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Germans and Japanese. Those are the two that have done it. We should create industrial clusters that build the most advanced stuff.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So my point in saying this is that there has been a lot of study done about how to upskill people with machines, how to use machines, and how to, let me just say that, we don't even build the machines in this country. If we had an economic development strategy, we would be building the machines.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“From at Bay. Yes, exactly. But here's what is... Is a light of hope for you. There is a study by a guy named James Besson, who's now at Stanford. He did an evaluation of 317 professions where technology had been introduced. So a classic example is like the ATM, right? And so ATM was introduced in the 70s toward the end of the 90s, they become ubiquitous. So would you think that there are more or fewer tellers since the introduction of the ATM? One might guess that there would be fewer tellers, right? But in 1970 there were 250,000 tellers. Today there are five hundred thousand tellers. He found in every single one of the three hundred and seventeen professions that had technology introduced in every single one jobs were created not lost except for one.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That doesn't create jobs. Fundamental issue. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, first of all, you hear people in Silicon Valley saying, let's just do a universal basic income sort of as a swage to their guilt about.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do think that we made some assumptions Democrats did that of course working people are going to support Democrats of course the Republicans have policies that hurt people so of course they're gonna be with us and I don't think that we fully grasped the depth of this disequilibrium that people are feeling all across the country because of the hollowing out of the middle class and we as Democrats or as people as leaders we don't even have a national jobs strategy we don't have a national economic development strategy other nations have got them we have had this hands off laissez fire trickle down and it has not worked and our other our competitors are only too happy to swoop in shame on us as Democrats for not articulating a strategy and articulating that we see you, we see your pain in a way that was effective”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My father worked at this factory. I'm forty eight years old. I went from high school to factory, and all I know is how to make refrigerators. And then he looked at his girls and he puts his hand on his chest and he says, So Governor, tell me who is ever going to hire me That question was asked by everybody in Clackles Orchard Pavilion that day, and it's been asked by everybody in one of the sixty two thousand communities that have lost factories since the beginning of this century”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like in a nuclear bomb went off in that little community, because in a town of eight thousand, when almost three thousand people work, it is a one company town when you think of grandchildren and children and all of that. And on the month that the last refrigerator came off the assembly line, the people had a gathering. The workers that they called the last supper. It was in clackles orchard pavilion. And I went to the last supper even though I was not invited because I was obsessed with this failure on my part of being able to keep the factory there. And as I go up to the first table, the guy stands up and he's got his tiger cap on and tattoos on and he pulls his two daughters who are young teenagers next to him and he says Governor, I want you to meet my daughters he says I've worked at this factory for thirty years. My grandfather worked at this factory.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we put, we said we would help to build them a new factory. We're going to finance it zero taxes for 20 years, all of this. And so Electrolux takes our list of incentives outside of the negotiating room in this negotiating room like all of the grand poobahs of Greenville were there. It was like everybody was on this. And they take the list and they go outside for seventeen minutes, and they come back into the room, and they say, wow, this is the most generous any community has ever been in trying to save jobs. But there's nothing you can do to compensate for the fact that we can pay a dollar fifty seven an hour in Juarez, Mexico, and so we're going. When that ha”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Make them an offer they can't refuse. So, you know, not like a Chris Christie offer, but we want to put incentives on the table and stuff like that. So we go to Greenville and we put all of these incentives on the table. I'm just huge, like the UAW who represented the workers, didn't want anyone to know what the level of concessions they were willing to make was.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tell this story as a defining moment of my gubernatorial experience, which was. Know, I got noticed that a big factory, a big refrigerator factory was going to go to Mexico in a little tiny town named Greenville, Michigan, in Greenville is a population of eight thousand people and almost three thousand people worked at this refrigerator factory which was owned by Electrolux. And this was in my first year of being governor. And so when I heard this, I said, oh my God, there's no way there's no way we're going to allow this to happen. Let me bring my whole cabinet to Greenville and we will”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And people who've worked for decades or whose father, you know, parents worked for decades, can I tell you a quick story? Yeah.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there was a very good plan, but it was, I mean, I just, I cannot tell you the anxiety. I can't describe adequately the anxiety of people on the ground. When you go, you know, on my way to church going into what is known as a Big Bee's coffee and having this guy, I mean, this is like one story a zillion, a man, you know, an older man who's like 50 years old, gray hair come up to me and say, governor, and then just start to sob in front of all these people. And he's so embarrassed that he's crying in front of people and him saying, you know, my job is gone. And my kids are in college. And how do I do this? Governor, can't you save? It is and that happened. Looking into the eyes of people, who through no fault of their own, have lost their dignity because they've lost their job is so powerful.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The millions of jobs that would have been lost across the country. So I will forever be grateful to him for that. I remember where I was when I got the calls from him about going in, you know, all right, we're announcing tomorrow that GM is going into bankruptcy. I was still pushing, no, don't push them into bankruptcy. No one's going to buy a car from a bankrupt auto, you know, but he was coming back, you know, it's going to be quick. We'll make it turn around, you know.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, and people don't recognize that it is sort of the spine of manufacturing in the country. I mean, the steel industry supplies the auto industry. I mean, all of the, you know, all of the materials that go into it and the supplier base that goes into it are thousands and thousands of parts, not just in Michigan, but all across the country. And the president also wanted to move to a more clean energy economy, and that meant if the transportation sector didn't move into electric vehicles and we didn't have a U.S. auto industry to do that, we would just be saying to our international competitors, well, come on in, you guys do it, and we won't do it. So the fact that the president was willing to step up to save, it was such a bold move. I mean, I don't know that people really understand the incredible, incredible courage, but the incredible impact that that had for the country in saving that.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the auto industry, we would not have a US auto industry today. I mean, the industry, you know, notwithstanding what Mitt Romney said, if they went into bankruptcy and there was not a debtor in possession, which is the United States government at this point, there would have been nobody stepping up because everybody was in recession. You would have seen a complete hollowing. I mean, Michigan was hollowed out to, you know, because of what was happening even in the bankruptcy and what had happened prior to that with the bankruptcies of the suppliers. But you would have also had an America that didn't have a manufacturing backbone, which is what the auto industry is.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“God bless Jean Sperling, who was really, I mean, he and I were in constant contact about this, and I think Robert Gibbs was also unbelievable.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, coding should be a language that kids learn just like any other language. It should be mandatory, really. We should have every child in every elementary school learning how to code, and they've got great programs to be able to do that. But if we don't, you know, we are going to be overtaken by our economic competitors.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“really a challenge and you know now that I live I live in in California now and the Silicon Valley area at least and have seen the other side of that as well in terms of the opportunity of technology and what technology can do to upskill workers and how you can have workers work with the machines and not be totally replaced by them that that one two punch really makes me think hard about what we need to be doing not just as a Democratic Party but as a nation in terms of how we help to transition people into a really technology infused economy.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I've seen it, and the depth of the pain of people who for generations have worked at this plant or for this company, it was very real for people. It was an existential crisis for the state, an identity crisis. And so holding people through that was very, very hard. And because we lost jobs, you know, it was politically hard as well. So both pieces of that were.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the earlier part of the decade of the 2000s, so much of it was related to trade. You know, I campaigned on this whole NAFTA and Kafta have given us the shafta. But after they had done what they could, especially the suppliers, I think the suppliers were getting pressured by the OEMs, by the auto companies to offshore so that they could reduce their costs, right? So after that happened, then automation really kicked in and did the rest. And so the one two punch in Michigan really meant that so much of our manufacturing footprint was either moved offshore or automated and the numbers just really diminished. Now I say that”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But then we found, and at the tail end of that recession, that something had changed, that there was this structural change in the economy, that those jobs that had come back before when the factories closed or laid off went into hiatus, they weren't opening up again. And it was weird because now all of the suppliers were starting to go through bankruptcies to the auto industry. So the tier one, the tier two, the tier three suppliers, the whole spade of them were going through bankruptcy. We recognized quickly that this was a structural change, not a cyclical one in Michigan, and that we had to really, one, help to diversify the economy so that we add new legs to our economic table other than manufacturing, but also help to protect as we were moving from sort of one economy to another.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“President, and we was saying to me at that point because of Michigan's industrial base, when things are in recession, nobody buys big products that are manufactured like vehicles, and therefore our line was when the nation catches a cold Michigan catches pneumonia. But when there's a recovery because there's pent-up demand for vehicles, we come out very strong. So people were predicting that since we were at the tail end of this recession, that after my first year in office, Michigan would be rebounding, creating jobs, et cetera.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's you know we're here at the Institute of Politics and we have all these great office hours and I tell these young people who are seeking advice to them if you're going to be running for office choose your timing well because I you know I came in in 2003 we were just at the tail end of a recession and obviously Bush was”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have hesitance in that? Oh, totally a hesitance about it because A, I loved my job. And B, there were two really good candidates in the primary that ended up running. One was the former governor, former Democratic governor, Jim Blanchard, who's a terrific person. And the other one was David Bonyer. Former congressman. Right, former congressman, very strongly supported by Labor. And another tremendous person. So, you know, I really had to think about it because they were, they're terrific, you know. But, you know, you do a lot of research to see who's most likely to win. You know, there was a lot of hunger for a sure democratic win. And so not that I would be sure because we certainly had a general election to go through, but I think, you know, I won the primary and ended up winning the general against.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or four years later. The irony about it is that I would have stayed in that. I mean, we have term limits in Michigan, so I could have only stayed in a position for two terms. The term limits kicked in after the previous Attorney General had left. But when I was elected, I had a Republican governor, a Republican House and Senate and Republican, you know, Republicans controlled state government at the time. So as the Attorney General, I was targeted by a number of them. The office was to reduce the powers of the Attorney General, et cetera, but we were able to beat them back. Because I was the only Democrat really in statewide elected office, we had Democratic senator, U.S. senators, but the in-state office party came again and said, you got to do this because there's nobody sort of in the pipeline in that way.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How such a fun job I mean the Attorney General's job for anybody who's listening who's, you know, young person who wants to know what is the best political elected job attorney general is got to be near the top of the list because it's so great you're going after bad guys You're targeting the things you want. You've got tools to be able to make things happen for people and to protect people. So it's a great job. I completely loved it. Completely loved it.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that there is a presumption. And I wish you were sitting here, my husband, because it's not been an easy road for somebody who had ambitions too, right? And he's a jock and he's a competitive guy. But he was ultimately just him, and he's always been my best friend, and he has been he's just an amazing human being and partner, and so he really sacrificed for a lot of years taking the primary parent role, making sure the trains were running on time, as well as doing his outside stuff. So he's an amazing soul. I'm so in love and grateful to him.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“37 years. That's exactly right. And he was called the Eternal General, but he decided to step down. And so... There folks approached and asked whether I would be interested in running and I was again What? No way because at that point I had three young children and I go home and you know tell Dan can you believe they asked me to do this and he's like what? Of course you should do it of course I got the kids don't worry we can make this work so yeah”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, I was after I was a federal prosecutor I was asked by Ed McNamara the Wayne County executive to come back and be the corporation counsel for Wayne County so then I had both criminal and civil experience I ran the county's law department and because I had known many and been working on political campaigns in the Detroit area and in Michigan some people from the party came and said to me why don't you because Frank Kelly who was then the Attorney General been there”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Around there as well. He sort of was a mentor as well to both of us. And when we moved back, I also worked on the Dukakis campaign and got to know a lot of the folks who were in the Democratic political party in Michigan. And then I ended up becoming a federal prosecutor for a number of years, which I totally love doing, and then was asked to come back.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have I wanted to be a voice for those who didn't have a voice? I really wanted to be able to be the lawyer for people who didn't have means and who were wronged in some way. I felt that very deeply I was really big in the protests at Harvard over the investments in South Africa. I was a leader of that. I was part of the, there was a group that was elected to be representatives of the students and I was elected on that platform to be urging Harvard to divest from its holdings in companies that did business in South Africa. So I really wanted to be in the midst of that. So when we moved back to Michigan, we moved into Detroit, we really both were working sort of in the political sphere for the Wayne County Executive.”
2017-05-08 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 145 - Jennifer Granholm · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source