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Jerry Chow

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“I'd say that the first few Ant Men movies with the By the most recent one where they had an entire civilization inside That was a little rough. All right”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You touch so many different people out there. It's like get out there. You can run and program a quantum computer tomorrow. We have freely available systems to run circuits on.”
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“I'd say that you just got to be looking out at the fact that it's actually not hard to get started and learn about it. There's an entire set of resources that you can go and program a quantum computer tomorrow. And the fact that we have this 10-year roadmap and the fact that we're building this ecosystem and driving towards these new generations of chips and systems, we want to develop sort of the developer of the future. And so if you're at all interested in learning about using a quantum computer and getting involved, there's a tremendous opportunity for growth here. We're going to need that because, again, to build an entire industry and to build this as a compute platform that works together seamlessly with today's most high performance computers is going to require grounds for people. So to me,”
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“But it's designed to scale. And so that's where it certainly upgradability and modularity is inherently built into it. You want to increase the number of processors, increase the cryogenic cooling environment. We can do that like Lego, right? Modular blocks. You want to increase the amount of control electronics. We can do that. You want to increase the amount of classical computation to interface with the quantum computer we can do that too. That's the idea behind system two, that is really sort of designed for scalability in a modular way within a data center environment.”
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“I think it's hard to miss. This glass box that is, yeah, we work actually, a fun story is that we work with this vendor, Gopien, that actually handles the glass that encases the Monisa to help build those enclosures for the fur systems. That's cool. So system two. Yeah, so system two, though new level of infrastructure.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have your morning coffee, and you're looking really, really cold 15 milliglin quantum processor. But system two people know it?”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Upgrade cycle, there's certainly even so, even with our system ones, we've actually upgraded those over time, right? And again, with our roadmap, some of them we in fact first launched with 27 qubit falcons. For as an example, we just announced that our system in Japan with the University of Tokyo got upgraded to 127 cubic eagle processor. But in terms of the infrastructure from system one, the system two, this wholly different, right? So system one is great in that it first showed that we can put these things almost anywhere, cafeteria, for example. You don't have to be in a physics laboratory for them to function.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you can think of a self contained local managed service that they're able to build a network and ecosystem around with their researchers, other partner university institutions that may want to use it. So that's sort of the idea, right? Like again, we have our main data center and cloud accessible systems, as you had mentioned. And then you have these other ones that You drive sort of regional ecosystems. And we're actually launching a European data center around our system over in Germany next year, right? Because, again, the different locations, people care about how their data is handled. And so then you never have to send Information overseas and things like that. You can sort of so you know at that level we can sort of build that type of flexibility into how we manage that service in terms of user data and everything.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One, it's got some qubits in it I'm up to it. They're still owned by IBM. Directory managed services deployed on the premises of the client locations, right? So we have one actually that earlier this year is in with Cleveland Clinic in while that's probably the most interesting place that we've deployed a system in that it's in their cafeteria. That's amazing. People have their morning coffees and eat lunch around it.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's those that are using various materials. For example, Department of Energy, Oak Ridge National Lab, those that already use high-performance computing, they are super interested in using our platforms. Boeing, actually, right, has been working with us for quite a bit. There, they're just looking at super tough problems like composites of materials and layers of materials and how best to arrange them. And they have problems with thousands of variables that are tremendous, that basically cannot work on classical computers. And we've been working with them to understand how to map their problems into quantum. And then you have the financial services industry. You have a number of players there that are looking at things like portfolio optimization, trying to understand all these things for, yeah. It's always portfolio optimization.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not the foremost expert about what. What molecular problems can be solved here? But I can at least say that we know that there are certain sizes in certain scales of problems that in terms of supercomputing resources push, summit, push frontier to its max limits of what users can actually simulate. Again, I don't know how much of that can be actually looked at using AI for approximate methods, but even then it still be sort of approximate methods. Right. And here's where quantum is really going to be something that allows one to look at it differently.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are some problems that quantum has always been promised. Obviously, deep mind. They just did proteins. It's done now. You can have it. We're going to walk away. Is there an overlap between where AI is expanding to in terms of the problem set or what it can do that is competitive with what you want to accomplish with Quanta?”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“AI transpilation thing did come in all of a sudden, and it's part of our roadmap that we're saying. It's an innovation and now we want to feed it into something that we want to drive towards product. In that sort of micro sense it has in the more macro sense. I just say that it's always cool to see just tremendous excitement about computing capabilities. And if the buzz stayed more on the AI and let quantum off the hook for a little bit, it's not so bad.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Translating problems into the right circuits that can run on physical hardware is a very challenging task. It itself is an optimization task in terms of there's a particular problem you want to run and then my hardware is configured in this particular way. We call that transpilation, how to map one to the other. And our team has actually used AI methods to find basically more optimal paths of that mapping. It's actually really fun in that AI impacts how we can accelerate quantum. There's another flip side, which is we're looking to how quantum can actually boost classification methods for AI. It's all tied together in some ways here.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah. I mean, it's actually really cool. Something that we're talking about at our summit, too, is that we've actually brought in some of you. So we have Watson X at IBM, and we actually brought in some Gen AI methods to help users program in Qiskit. So there's actually an engine that we built there to help users code that we're going to be previewing. And then another thing is that...”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's responsible quantum computing initiatives. There's things that are looking at it. And I think there's a lot to lean in on in terms of learning from what's happening right now with those AI stories. What's the thing?”
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“What are you talking about? Yeah, right, exactly. That's the challenge. And it's almost a social challenge that needs to be overcome to make that happen, right? But removing that, right? Like if we look across at what you can or cannot do on quantum computers, I honestly think we need to just watch what's happening with AI. See what's been done in the past with high performance computing, right? Again, like not everybody has a high performance computer at home, right? And so we expect a lot of the sort of frameworks to be very similar. My concern about putting too many safeguards around it early is stifling progress, stifling the development early.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Certainly, threads of that type of discourse, especially throughout the community. Personally, right, what I see is, well, first thing, the encryption one, we already know that there are quantum safe encryption standards. And, you know, a fun thing is in terms of IBM Quantum, I said our mission is to bring useful quantum computing into the world. The other side of it is make the world quantum safe, is we want to actually help clients figure out how to update their encryption standards to those quantum safe ones. They exist. NIST has approved a number of them, right? It's mainly an inertia thing to move the entire industries, move banks, move commerce to adopt those standards. And that itself...”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There might be some stuff we just don't let these computers do anymore, which is very challenging when you're talking about someone's laptop. It is way less challenging when you're talking about a data center. Like AWS can just keep you from doing a workload. IBM, I'm sure, has rules and regulations about what its cloud is capable of doing and what you will allow to be done with its cloud computing. You fast forward quantum. People are worried that you're going to break AES encryption with quantum one day. And then the world will fall apart because the world runs on AES encryption. Are you thinking about that yet? Like there's some stuff we should not allow people to do. And as we build the cloud system, we should make sure we put the controls in place”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Increased compute resources needed, we will work hand in hand with how to build these quantum data centers. And we're already doing that. So we have a quantum data center up in Poughkeepsie, which hosts the majority of our systems, and we're planning on expanding that further.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say this outside I say this when I first work in this area, I did my PhD in this area, worked on superconducting qubits, we were required to use large canisters, these refrigerators where we need to wheel up these huge jugs of liquid helium and fill them every three days to keep them cold. Now, that's a physics experiment I mean, there's already been innovations in cryogenics that they're turnkey. You plug them in, they stay running, they can run for years and maintain your payloads at the right temperatures. You're paying electricity, obviously. They're right to keep them cold. But we're seeing innovations there too in terms of driving infrastructure scale cryogenics, right? Where honestly we're going to evolve the data center of the future, just like data centers today have evolved to handle”
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“Need a data center that's very cold. This does not seem like a thing that's going to happen locally for me ever unless LK99 is real. Right, like there's this isn't going to happen for anyone in their home outside of an IBM data center for quite some time.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's that hybrid cloud that connects all these pieces together and differentiation is there in terms of building this quantum supercomputer, a quantum centric supercomputer within there.”
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“Going to be exquisitely good at certain types of tasks. And so the framework that I actually see is that it's going to be so like already now you're going to have your AI compute clusters and the way that people run workloads today. I'm sure they are running some parts on their regular computers, on their own laptops, but parts of the job get fed out to the cloud, to their hyperscalers, and some of them are going to use the AI compute nodes. Well, we see that also for how quantum will feed in. It'll be another part of that sort of overall cloud access landscape where you're going to take a problem, you're going to break it down, you're going to have parts of it that run on classical computing, parts of it that might run on AI, parts of that will leverage what we call quantum-centric supercomputing, right? Because that's the best place to solve that one part of the problem. And then it comes back and you got to stitch all that together. And so, you know, from the IBM perspective, where we always often talk about hybrid cloud.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we're not at the point where the quantum computer is this. Commodity item that we're just buying tons of chips. You're not fabricating. Millions of these chips. But we are going to build this supercomputer based off of quantum computing, which is”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I think the point is our mission is to bring useful quantum computing to the world. I've been working in this area for like 20 years now, and I've just, we've never been this close to being able to build something that is driving real value, right? And so I think, you know, when you look at our team, we are all aligned along that mission, that like we want to drive this to something that we started with just getting it out there in the cloud in terms of building the community. Now we fundamentally see this as a tool that will alter how users are going to perform computation, right? And so there has to be, and I expect there to be value there. And, you know, we have seen, we know, we've seen how the HPC community has progressed. And we've seen how supercomputing has, I mean, you can see what's happening with the uptake of AI and everything”
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“We've got a lot of details still to come, right, to work on in terms of what those things that need to be worked on across the software layer, the compiler layer, right? The control electronics layer and certainly at the processor layer.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so we do a little bit of that sort of planning, right? Because we also want to do it so that we want to lay out this roadmap. We often call it like a no-regrets decision. We don't want to do things that are just for the near term. We want to really pick strategies that give us this long-term path. It's why we talk about utility scale so much in terms of what we can do with herons and soon flamingos, but everything that we want to build on top of what we can do there will translate to what we can do when we get those systems at scale, including Errorch. And in terms of the roadmap planning, we're not done, by the way, right? We have this overall framework for the 10-year roadmap, and then we need to refine.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Roadmap meeting look like. Yeah, this is a great question. I mean, we have a number of us who are sitting there. We certainly know that we have certain types of technical foundations that we know that we need to include into these next generation chips and systems. For this roadmap, we know at some point we need to get quantum error correction into our roadmap. With that technical lead, we know what are the requirements. So first, we said, okay, let's put it here. Now let's work backwards. It says that we need to do this innovation and this innovation by this date and this other innovation in the software stack or whatever by this state. And then we say, oh shoot, we ran out of time. Let's move back a little bit.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The near term stuff, obviously, right? And the roadmap sort of again serves as that guide. And that roadmap is constructed so that all these various things do impact that long-term delivery.”
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“There's going to be innovations within that are going to continue to compound over those 10 years that might make it even more attractive, right? As type goes on. And that's just the nature of technology.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, we're pretty confident to superconducting qubits is how we're able to prognosticate 10 years forward, right? That we see the direction we're going, right? Yeah. And to me, it's more that.”
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“I would say the difference there's like the whole sort of systems are completely different That the architectures are not so compatible. You know, I mean, at some level with your nodes of your semiconductors, there might be certain kinds of know-how that translates How you route and layout or something like that. Maybe, you know, and here above a certain layer, there's also going to be commonality in terms of like the compute platform, how the quantum circuits are generated and the software layers might be similar, but the actual physical hardware.”
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“I mean, I think overall, you know, in the landscape, we're always keeping track of what's going on. You're always seeing sort of what are the latest innovations in the various different technologies.”
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“End up hurting you. All right, let me make a comparison to semiconductors, yan, because that's, I think, what I'm familiar with and what the audience is familiar with. In semiconductors, there was like multiple pattern lithography that was like everyone chased it for a minute and it hit an end state. N state, and then TSMC had bet really big on EUV, and that let them push ahead. And Intel had to make a big shift over there. You're looking at your roadmap, you're doing superconductors, cryogenics, metals on substrates. And over here, some guys are doing optical tweezers on atoms. Is there a thought in your head like, oh, we better keep an eye on this because that might be the process innovation that we actually need?”
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“Atoms into little arrays, and you know, there's some exciting results that have been coming out from various atom groups there. But again, it comes down to that speed. Anytime you have these actual atomic items, either an ion or an atom, you're clock racing up hurting you.”
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“There's trapped ions, right? Trapped ions is basically they're using molecular ions like cesium and things that you might use for clocks, atomic clocks. They can have very good quality. In fact, there are some results that have tremendous performance across a number of those types of traption qubits in terms of their two cubic gate qualities. But they're slow, right? In terms of just the clock rates of getting your operations in, getting your operations out. You do operations to sort of recycle the ion sometimes. That's sort of what I'd say has a downside. I'd say right now, super connecting qubits and trapped ions are the most other approaches that have the most prominence at the moment that you see have been put out in terms of usable services. Atoms have also emerged. Very similar to the trapped diamonds. They use these fun little things called optical tweezers to hold.”
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“To the best of our knowledge, we can hit all three of those in a very strong way. Scale, pushed up to Over a thousand qubits, we know that we can build up to 1,000 qubits already with the technologies that we built. From the quality heron, which we're releasing, has the best gate quality, so the gate saw the operations, the gate qualities that have been shown across a large device. And then speed in terms of just the execution times, we're on the order of microseconds for some of the clock rates, whereas other approaches can be a thousand times the orders of magnitude slower.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a simple set of metrics for you to compare the performance of the quantum processors. It's scale. What number of qubits can you get to and build reliably, right? Quality. How long do those qubits live for you to perform operations and calculations on at speed? So how quickly can you actually run executions and problems through these quantum processors? And that speed part is something where it's an interplay between your quantum processor and your classical computing infrastructure because they talk to one another. You don't control a quantum computer without a classical computer. And so you need to be able to sort of get your data in, data out, and process it on the classical side. So scale quality speed, our approach is super connecting qubits.”
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“How do you think they're going? When we think about competitors, you can think about sort of the platform competitors of who's building on the services. But I think what you're pointing to more is the hardware side. Yeah, the approach and the approaches. When it comes down to it”
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“Tell me about the industry at large, right? So, IBM has one approach. You said you're using metals on a substrate, you're leveraging all of the semiconductor know-how that IBM has. When you're out in the market and you're looking at all your competitors, Microsoft is doing something else. Google's something else.”
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“We've gotten up to close to millisecond, hundreds of microseconds to a millisecond. Already in numbers, orders of magnitude longer. But that took many years of development. And at the point of a few hundred microseconds, we're able to do all these complex operations that we've been talking about to push this sort of utility scale that we discussed earlier. That know-how to increase that lifetime comes down to engineering, comes down to understanding the core pieces that generate loss in the materials and that's something that we certainly have expertise at.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so the tricky thing with these qubits, what's funny is that, you know, people talk about qubits, they think that they are, I mean, there are different ways of building qubits. There's people who use ions and atoms and electrons and things like that. But ours are actually just metal on a substrate. They're circuits. They're much like the circuits that you might see when you look inside of a standard chip. The problem with these circuits is that you can build, so you can basically arrange them in a certain way and use the right materials and you have a qubit that, in this case, for super lengthy qubits, not going into too many details, but it resonates at 5 gigahertz. If you choose the wrong materials, the lifetimes of these qubits can be extremely short. So when we first started in the field of building superconducting qubits in 1999, superconducting qubits lasted for maybe like two nanoseconds, five nanoseconds today.”
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“And, you know, there's this know how of how to do it properly. To have high performing qubits, which we've just built up, you know.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Build the next generation quantum computing chip. We rely on advanced packaging techniques that involve multiple layers of superconducting metal to package and to wire up various superconducting qubits. With Heron, we're also using a novel tunable coupler architecture, which allows us to have world record performing two qubit gate qualities. And all this is done in a sort of standard fabrication facility that we have at IBM and package up this chip and we've cooled it down into a cryogenic environment.”
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“Messed up the qubits. It might cause them to decohere, right? But we found because of our know-how with packaging, we found the right materials, we found the right way of using our fabrication techniques to implement that type of multi-layer wiring and still talk to these 100 qubits. We evolved that further this past year to actually get to 1,000. And so that type of semiconductor know-how is just ingrained and something that is, I'd say the decades of experience matter.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not so explicitly to sort of the newest stuff that's happening today in semiconductors. I mean, but, you know, IBM has been in the semiconductors game for many, many decades, right? And a lot of the work that we've achieved with even achieving 100 qubits with Eagle a couple years ago was because we had that deep-rooted semiconductor background. So just to give you an example. At 100 qubits, the challenge is how do you actually wire to 100 qubits in a chip? Well, the standard thing you do in semiconductors is you go to more layers, but it's not so easy to do that just in these superconducting quantum circuits because it might...”
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“They're different, right? Because, I mean, again, with this sort of modular approach, there's some that are like, well, how many can we place into a single chip? How many can we place into a single package? How many can we package together within a system? So they all require slightly different technological innovations within the whole value chain. But we don't see them as not doable. We see them certainly as things that we will hand over the next few years. We're already starting to test linking between two packages via a cryogenic cable. This is towards our flamingo demonstration, which we're planning for next year.”
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“And they kind of hit the end of the road, even to where we are today with Heron and actually complimentary to Heron this year, we actually also already built a 1,000 qubit processor condor, which its explicit goal was push the limits of how many qubits could we put on a single chip, push the limits of how much architecture could we put in an entire system, right? How much could we actually cool down in the dilution refrigerators that we know today, the cryogenic refrigerators that we have today sort of push the boundaries of everything to understand where things break? And if you look at the early part of our roadmap, the birds are there with various technological hurdles that we've already overcome to get towards this thousand qubit level. And now those next birds that you see in the rest of the innovation roadmap are, again, they're different types of couplers, different types of technologies that are those technological hurdles like you bring up in semiconductors that allow us”
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“Know, I'm a person who came up in what you might call the classical computing environment. That's very familiar. This is a very familiar strategy. We're just going to do more cores. That's what that looks like to me. Lots of companies have run up against a lot of problems here. In that part of the world, there's just Moore's law.”
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