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Jerry Chow

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“So that's the goal, right? You're going to get to some massively larger scale than you are today, orders of magnitude, right? Today the chip has 133 qubits. You need to get to thousands. Some people terrifyingly are saying millions.”
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“And that's part of the roadmap, too. So that's when we're looking at further to the Blue Jay system in 2033. So, you know, there's certainly a number of birds to get there, right?”
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“We have a transition towards what we call quantum at scale, right? I think what you're referring to is like when you will get to the point where you can run quantum error correction, correct for all the errors that are underlying within these qubits, which are noisy. People throw around that number millions qubits in a way that almost drives fear into the hearts of people. One actually really exciting thing that we've done this past years, we've developed a set of novel error correction codes that brings down that resource count a lot. So actually you need potentially hundreds of thousands of qubits, hundred thousand qubits or so to build a fault tolerant quantum error correction-based quantum computer of a particular size to do some of those problems that we're talking about at scale.”
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“I was looking at that roadmap and it is very aggressive. We're at Heron. There's many birds to come. From what I understand And the goal is that a truly functional quantum computer needs thousands or millions of qubits, right?”
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“I often say the roadmap is our mantra, and it really is sort of our calling card for both internally and externally. Not many people really show a lot of detail in their roadmap, but it serves as a really guiding tool for us all.”
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“I mean, we have a very good strategy across the team, right? We know what our sort of core services and core product that we have is, right? And also we have a roadmap. The concept of the roadmap is both great for the R&D side, but also great for the client perspective, business development angle view of seeing what's coming next. From the internal side, we know, well, we've got to continue to drive towards this. And these are our deliverables, and these are the new innovations that we need to do. In fact, in our new roadmap that we're releasing, we have that separated, both a development roadmap, which is more product focused and more like what the end user is going to get and clients going to get. And we have an innovation roadmap to show those things, which we're still going to need to turn the crank and figure out what feeds in.”
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“To you, or the structure in between, so all those different ones report to our vice president of quantum computing, which is Jay Gambetta. I take care of the systems part. Basically, the wrapping of the processor and how it runs executing problems for the users. That's the piece that I own.”
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“Their interest. We also have a part of our team which runs an offering called the Quantum Accelerator, working directly. It was like a consulting arm, working with clients to get quantum ready, start understanding how their problems can be impacted by quantum computing and start using the systems.”
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“So we don't speak explicit numbers, but we have several hundred people. And then we have parts of the team which are focused on the actual hardware elements all the way down to actual quantum processor. And the system around it in terms of making those processors function by cooling it down in cryogenic system, talking to it with control electronics, talking to it with classical computing, right? So all needs to tie together. Then you have software development teams. We also have a cloud and services team that helps to deliver our offerings as a service. And then, yeah, we have applications teams looking at the next algorithms, the next novel ways of making use of our quantum services. And then we also have teams that are more outward looking for business development, trying to drive adoption, working with various clients to engage in the problems of.”
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“Product journey, it's all integrated together as we're moving forward. And so therefore, we have the opportunity within IBM Quantum that we're developing products, we're putting it on the cloud, we're integrating with IBM Cloud, we're actually pushing these things forward to build that user base, build that groundswell before, say, all the various different technology elements are finished. That's sort of this agile methodology of building up this from the ground up, but also getting it out early and often to drive excitement and to really build up the other parts of the ecosystem.”
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“IBM Quantum within IBM research. So IBM research has always been sort of the organic growth engine for all of IBM, right? It's where a lot of the innovative ideas come in. But overall, a particular strategy within IBM research is that it's not just we're doing research and then we're going to do development and then it's going to go like this very sort of linearized.”
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“So put that in the context of IBM. IBM's a huge company, it's over 100 years old, it does a lot of things. This is the most cutting-edge thing probably IBM is doing, I imagine. I'm guessing you're not going to disagree with me, but it feels like the most cutting-edge thing that most of the big tech companies are doing.”
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“A lot of times, even in with traditional computers, there's very few sort of proven algorithms that are where we drive all the value. A lot of the value that gets driven, in fact, is done through heuristics, through just trial and error, through having the tool and using it on a particular problem. And so that's why we see this fundamental game changer of this inflection point going towards utility scale systems of over 100 qubits as now this is the tool that we want users to actually go and find business advantage, find the problems that map appropriately onto these systems for exploration.”
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“I would say that we're knocking on the door of business value, right? And looking for that business value. Because especially when we're in this realm where we know that it can be used as a tool pitted against the best classical computers, there's something there to be explored.”
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“The reason I ask this question is I'm always curious how things are structured and how decisions are made. That's really what we talk about on the show. And there's a forcing function that comes when it's a business and there's a growth path. Quantum seems very much like one day it will be a huge business because it will solve problems that regular computers can't. But right now it's on the very early part of the curve where you're investing a lot into R and D. An aggressive roadmap, but you're nowhere close to the business yet.”
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“But the whole point is that we develop the whole framework around it to actually deploy it and to make it programmable. And think about the early days of computers and all the infrastructure you need to build in terms of the right sort of assembly language and compilers and the application layers all above that. We've been building that for the last seven years since that first launched. And in that time, we've had over 500,000 users of our platform and of our services.”
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“There are people that are interested across the board, like from developers to students to Fortune 500 company. We have a lot of interest, right? So just as an example, we first put systems on the cloud. In 2016, we put a very simple five qubit computer, five qubit quantum computer on the cloud. It reflected a real sort of fundamental shift in how quantum computer approached. Before you had to be sort of a physicist, you had to be in a laboratory turning knobs. You're like taking data. You're running like physicist code. You're not programming a computer. We developed that”
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“We at IBM have been at the forefront of computation for decades. And so it's in our blood, the ideas of roadmaps and pushing the next big development, the next big innovations in computation have always been something that is just native to IBM. And quantum is no different. And so we've been in the game with quantum since the early theoretical foundings for probably 30 years, 30 plus years, right? But now we're really starting to bear a lot of that fruits in terms of building the architectures, building the systems, putting out the hardware, developing the framework for how to make it usable and accessible.”
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“We're all racing forward to I'd say that it's a very exciting time to be in this field. How often do you get to say you're building from the ground floor of a completely new computational architecture, right? Yeah. Something that is just fundamentally different from traditional classical computing. And so, yeah, I say that there's certainly a lot of groundswell. There's a lot of buzz, sometimes too much buzz, maybe, right? But also, you know, I think from the perspective of competition, it helps drive the industry forward.”
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“Right, we sort of see this really as an inflection point, right? That there's a lot of industries that use high performance computation already, and they are looking at very, very hard problems that use the Oak Ridge supercomputers and whatnot. And now Quantum becomes an additional tool that opens up a new lens for them to look at a different area of compute space that they weren't able to look at before.”
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“Or any kind of Yeah, I think the word utility there is always, I guess it threw me off, right? This is the branch point where the problems you solve with the quantum computers start to become meaningfully different than the problems you could solve with a regular computer.”
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“Where we're calling this utility scale quantum computing Where using 100 plus qubits, so we used a processor earlier in the year called Eagle, where we were able to look at a particular problem that you couldn't really solve with brute force methods using a classical computer, but that also it challenged the best classical approximation methods that are used on high-performance computing. So what's interesting there is that now the quantum computer becomes sort of like the benchmark. You almost need it to verify whether your approximate classical methods are working properly. That just sort of just happens when you go over 100 qubits. Like at 100 qubits, things sort of all change.”
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“We're not even at the point of solving real problems. Not even yet. Not yet. But we are really excitingly just this past year. At the point”
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“Expanding that roadmap, which we actually first introduced it a couple of years ago. And I've hit all of our milestones thus far, but we are extending it out to 2033, pushing forward into this next realm where we see really we want to drive towards pushing quantum computing at scale.”
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“We have our annual quantum summit coming up. It's where we basically invite our network of members and users to come. And we talk about some of the really exciting news. And so what we're announcing this year is actually we have a really exciting upgraded quantum processor that we're talking about. It's called the IBM Quantum Heron. It has 133 qubits. It's the most highest performance processor that we've ever built and it's going to be available for users to access via our cloud services. We're also launching IBM Quantum System 2 and introducing this as a new architecture for scaling our quantum computers into the future. We're also talking about a 10-year roadmap looking ahead. At IBM Quantum like to sort of call our shots, tell everyone what we're doing, right? Because that keeps us honest, keeps everyone in industry on the same benchmark of seeing where progress is.”
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“Town and build a roadmap for the next 10 years of applied research in a field that requires major breakthroughs at every level of the product. It turns out it's a meeting, a very complicated meeting. But if the plans from that meeting pan out, the future of computing will change dramatically. Oh, and we talked about Ant-Man. It's a fun one. Very few people sit at the bleeding edge of technology all day like Jerry. Okay, Jerry Chow, director of Quantum Systems at IBM. Jerry Chow. You are an IBM Fellow and Director of Quantum Systems. Welcome to Decoder.”
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“One of my favorite things about all this is that in order to make these new quantum computers work, you have to cool them to within fractions of a degree of absolute zero, which means a lot of companies have had to work very hard on cryogenic cooling systems just so other people could work on quantum chips. That's the reason Jerry calls early quantum computer science projects, but his goal is to engineer actual products that people can use. You'll hear Jerry talk about this, making a useful quantum computer, and the term he uses is utility. Which is when quantum computers start to push against the limits of what regular computers can do or even simulate. IBM has been chasing after utility for a while now. It first made quantum computers available on its cloud in 2016. It shipped system one quantum computers to partners around the world. And this week it's announcing system two along with that roadmap for the future. Now its decoder, so I asked Cherry exactly how he and his team sit”
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“Qubit or you know quantum bit is the representation of information for a quantum computer instead of a bit which is a zero and one you in fact have still two states 0 and a one but they can also be in superpositions of zero and one which means that there's a there's a probability that when you measure it it will be zero or one with particular probability in terms of how we physically build these you know they're not switches anymore they're not transistors right but they're actually elements that have quantum mechanical behavior in the case of what we build at IBM we use superconducting circuits to basically build these quantum levels into metal on on a substrate”
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“Quantum folks like Jerry call regular computers classical computers, which is delightful. And they all work in basically the same way, an iPhone or a laptop or even a fancy NVIDIA GPU encodes data in bits. Bits have two states, which we refer to as zero and one, they're on or they're off. Flip enough bits fast enough. You have a computer. But the laws of quantum mechanics that Jerry just mentioned mean that qubits behave very, very differently. They can be zero or one, but they can also be a whole lot of things in between. Here's Jerry.”
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“Quantum computer is basically a fundamentally different way of computing. It relies on the laws of quantum mechanics, but it just changes how information is handled. So instead of using bits, we have quantum bits or qubits. They, again, follow the laws of quantum mechanics, which means that they have these attributes like superposition, interference, and entanglement. Can't go into the details of how that all works in terms of a computational aspect, but you can think of it as it changes the rules of the math underlying information processing. And it does so in a way that makes it extremely efficient at certain types of problems.”
2023-12-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · IBM's Jerry Chow explains the next phase of quantum computing · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilai Patel, editor in chief of the Verge. And Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking to Jerry Chow. He's the director of Quantum Systems at IBM, meaning he's trying to build the future one qubit at a time. IBM made some announcements this week about its plans for the next 10 years of quantum computing. There are new chips, new computers, and new APIs on that roadmap. Jerry and I got into all of the details of that roadmap, but the important thing to know is that quantum computers could have theoretically incredible amounts of processing power and could entirely revolutionize the way we think of computers if someone could build one that's actually useful. Here's Jerry, explaining the basics of what a quantum computer even is.”
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