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Joe Gebbia

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  1. “Here's what I'll do I'll move a couple projects around. If you send me the 3D CAD file today, I can make the tool this weekend and send it wherever you need to send it on Monday. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to call you right back. Because I remembered there was a pool float company that I spoke to the week before in Connecticut who”

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  2. “And I realized that the guy that runs the metal shop in the industrial design building, this guy's Steve, I haven't talked to him yet. So I run back into the industrial design building. I go, Steve, here's what's going on. And he goes, I've got this friend, Sam, up in Cumberland, Rhode Island, who's got a tool shop. Why don't you give him a call? Maybe he'll help you out. So I get on the phone with this guy, Sam, and I just pour it out to him. I'm like, Sam, this is what I want. I give him every ounce of enthusiasm that I have. And at the end, he goes, you really want this, don't you? And I'm like, yes, whatever you can do. And he goes, all right.”

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  3. “This is like Monday. So fast forward, it's four o'clock on Friday afternoon. I have no options. Everybody's telling me no, it's never going to happen. It's impossible. The manufacturing is going to take many, many weeks, if not months. I'm like, I don't have that many weeks. We've got three now. And so I go outside the industrial design building. It's like a sunny afternoon, and I'm laying on the grass right on the river in Providence. And I feel the breeze on my face, the sound of the birds, and I'm looking up at the sky. And I'm thinking to myself, I have to figure this out. I can't, I'm not going to give up on this. What haven't I thought of yet?”

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  4. “And everybody said the same thing. Well, son, you know, it's going to take you about six weeks just to make the mental mold and about another four weeks for production. Sorry, quick. And I just went through everybody and was getting no, no, no, no. So then I went to my professors in industrial design. And they also said it's never going to happen in time. Now at this point, the school is getting a little bit nervous. Because the clock is ticking here. And they call me and they say, how's the project coming? And I'm like, it's cool. Don't worry. And they go. So is it going to happen? And I'm like, probably. And they go, well, you have until Friday at 5 o'clock to tell us if it's a go or not. So I'm like, okay.”

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  5. “About I'm like, I'm so exuberant and excited that like, oh my God. They'll pay for the manufacturing of a couple hundred cushions. At the same time, I'm like, how the hell am I going to get this done? Like, there is absolutely no time. And so I get onto Google and I search phone manufacturers. Tim, I called every single search result for the first 15 pages. I was calling people in India. I was calling people in England. I was called people in Texas. I was calling people in California.”

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  6. “And in between that, I have to deliver two thesis projects for graphic design and industrial design. I definitely don't have time to take on anything else.”

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  7. “And at RISD, they give you your degree and paper degree. And they also give the graduating class a different object every year. So I submit krip funds for the competition and it wins. It gets selected to be given out to every graduate from the RISD class in 2005, which is like freaking incredible. However, they tell me this on May 1st. Graduation is on June 1st.”

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  8. “And it was great because now I could walk around with my classmates. I could say, hey, what do you guys think? How much did you pay for this? What kind of colors would you want? And people, of course, had cracked a smile when they saw it and they had a good laugh. But I really hit a wall because I had a one-off prototype, but I didn't know how to get it to the next stage. And I certainly didn't have the money or the funds to do that on my own. It was around this time Senior year where I notice a poster on campus that says competition for the design diploma, submit your ideas here.”

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  9. “At this point, I had no idea how to make a product. It's just your first year at design school. So I tucked the sketch away. Fast forward Five years later, I've now done a dual degree in graphic design and industrial design. And at this point, I know how to make a prototype. I know how to. Translate something from a sketchbook into a real working prototype. And so I make crip buns out of hard foam. You can actually sculpt it out of this special foam. And now I have this full size hard representation of the shape, which is like two buns that come together and there's a handle for portability. I take that hard model. I cast it in rubber and then I pour into the cast a expanding polyurethane foam. So when I took the lid off, there was looking back at me the first soft cripun's sea cushion.”

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  10. “And everyone's wiggling around trying to get comfortable. So by the end of the day, you're incredibly sore. And I watch as my classmates exited the art studio with this bun print on the seat of their pants because all the charcoal dust, paint and ink that's on these studio surfaces rubbed off onto our pants. And sure enough, I look on mine. My pants are ruined too. So walking back to my dorm room and thinking, there's got to be a better way. If we're going to endure these crits for the next four years, what have you had a sea cushion that you could sit on to make you comfortable and to keep you clean? And so I got back to my dorm room and I pulled out my sketchbook and I drew that same bun print shape on the seat of our pants and gave it some dimension and I called it crit buns.”

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  11. “So, it's freshman year at RISDI. I'm in a drawing class. And the way it works again is like you'd come in and it'd be an eight hour class. So in the morning, you'd pin your work up on the wall, your drawing assignment from the week before, and you'd literally spend all day critiquing it or having to crit. And people would ask afterwards, how'd your crit go? Oh, man, my crit was so hard. My teacher was so rough on me or like, it didn't go well, or it was great. About four hours in, your picture that the environment, you're in an art studio, hardwood fours, metal stools, wooden benches, four hours in a sitting on these hard, uncomfortable surfaces. Your butt starts to feel it.”

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  12. “And so when we started the basketball team, we had to sort of fall in line with the theme. So the team's called the balls. And both the NADs and the balls are supported by the jock straps, which is the cheerleading team. And there's a whole theme probably maybe maybe we won't go into it here. Sports at RISD that adds to the, I think, the levity and the humor of it.”

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  13. “So that was a great experience. I think a lot of people ask what the name of the team is. And because we're an art school, We didn't have to have traditional names and any art schools all about self-expression and not holding back. And so there was a legacy of names on campus that all had a particular theme to them. And so the hockey team on campus is called the NADs. So, when you cheer, it goes.”

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  14. “where you'd have the full cross-section of campus under the same roof at the same time. Students, faculty, administration, professors, alumni, people from Brown who were just curious and wanted to come over and see what this crazy Risdy basketball team was doing. And so it was this really cool moment where you just bring people together. And that was, I think, really the undertones, the undercurrents of what the team is really about. Sure, it was about sport and competition and staying in shape and the camaraderie of being on the team. Second of that was also about bringing people together.”

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  15. “At RISD, yeah, and it was an incredible experience the next couple of years. Because it was like running a startup. You know, you had to put a team together, you had to raise funding, you had to create a brand, you had to market that brand, you had to get people into the games. And one of the things I was most proud of is that... At RISD, the workloads are incredibly difficult. And once you get into your majors, they say sometimes you never see anybody again because they're just so focused on the workload. Other than graduation, the basketball games became the only other time really during the year”

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  16. “Meanwhile, it's just like. 12 scrappy art school students on the court with like basic mesh practice jerseys. And I think once the coach came down to the court, he kind of recognized what he got himself into and he's like, oh boy. And so we had a few, I think about 150 fans of Rizzy students show up that first game. Say we got blown out. It was 94 to 49. But in my mind, that was a huge win because we established something. Like we got a team established and off the ground”

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  17. “And I'm player coach leading the team at this point. And we're in not even our own gym because we don't have one. We're in some private high school gym around the corner. In the Clark University bus pulls up and their players start to get off the bus and I'm going, oh my God, their shortest guy is taller than our tallest guy And they get the head coach and three assistant coaches and a trainer comes off.”

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  18. “I get on the phone with some of these coaches and I introduce myself, hey, this is Joe Gebby calling from the Rhode Island School basketball team, and I'd like to. Pretty much everybody hung up on the first couple phone calls. But then there was one college that took my call. I'll never forget it because I had to sneak out of my graphic design class to take the call. It was Clark University in Massachusetts. I'm on the phone with their head coach. He's like, yeah, okay, cool. We're not going to send down our varsity team, but I'll send my JV team. And I'm like, perfect. We'll take it. So on December 4th, 2001. We had the first Risdy basketball game, Risdy vs. Clark University. At this point, it's so informal for us. We've got these basic mesh jerseys that are like reversible, basically a practice uniform for anybody else.”

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  19. “And we started this team. It was like a hodgepodge group of other students. And we would rent Jim Space at a private high school in Providence to go practice in. And at this point, we're just practicing. Like we literally have, there's no season, there's no games, there's no other competition. It's just us scrimmaging each other. We made some really basic uniforms. And just got things off the ground. The next year when I came back to campus was different. I'm like, okay, this year, we're going to make a season. We're going to play the teams. Like, let's turn this into something. So I get on the phone, I start calling colleges in New England. I'm calling community colleges and juniversity schools.”

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  20. “Can start one if you want to. And I go, really? What's involved in that? And he goes, Well, if you collect a list of 12 other students that want to play, bring it back to me. I'm like, that's it. I'm like, okay. So I run off and I spend a week putting posters up around the dorms and I gather names of 11 other people play basketball. It wasn't actually that hard. And I come back to them like, okay, cool. Now what? He goes, okay, fill out this form. Take this to the student government meeting on Wednesday to get recognized as a student organization. I'm like, okay, so I go to the meeting, I present the concept, have a basketball team. Here's the paperwork. Here's the names. Here's what we think we might need for a budget. It gets approved from the student government. So then I'm like, I go back and I'm like, what's the next step? He's like, okay, well, you need to find a gym. And so one of these one thing led to the other in that year we started Rizzy's first basketball team in 40 years.”

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  21. “Shift. You have that experience. Yeah, have that experience. And there's a great segue of sports into my Rizdy experience. I love basketball as we've been talking about. And I walk into the office of student life one day and I go to the guy at the front desk and I say, I want to play on the basketball team. He gives me this funny face and he goes, we don't have a basketball team. All of a sudden, there's this awkward silence as we're just staring at each other. And he breaks the silence by saying,”

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  22. “By the way, I caught up with him for a coffee about 12 years later. And I had to ask him, I'm like, here was my experience of that conversation. Like, what the hell were you thinking? Why didn't you get behind me? He goes, Joe, come on. I knew that if I told you you couldn't do it, you would.”

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  23. “And so, I think since that moment, I've always sought to try to find people to play with who better than me. And that'll certainly come back up when we talk about Airbnb.”

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  24. “Sure, and it's so funny because that was a piece of advice I got in seventh grade when I started playing basketball. The basketball coach said, Joe Joey, if you want to get better at basketball, you need to play. And so when I used to go to the Y, I had to shoot hoops on the weekend. I wouldn't play with people my age or younger to actually play with the high schoolers who were much bigger, much stronger, much more talented than I was. And of course I got pushed around and I like, you know, you get bumped around by guys who are, you know, Playing on the varsity team. But man, my skills, the learning curve that year, I feel like that was like another kind of threshold moment of like, I'm not very good at basketball. Actually, okay, I've got some skills now.”

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  25. “And you feel like you've expanded, like you've pushed the limits of what you thought was possible within yourself. And that for me was like one of the greatest feelings. That I had at that time”

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  26. “They'd have the IV just in case, and the parents would be there to pick me up. And in the last, you know, 800 meters to the finish line, I'd always try to find somebody who was running a little bit faster than me. And I just would try to accelerate to catch up with them, draft him a little bit. And then sometimes I'd be neck and neck with them in the finish lines with insight. It's so close. And I would just say out loud to them, I'd say, you're not beating me. You're not beating me. And I'd use that to motivate myself just to try to run faster to get a better time.”

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  27. “And so eventually I got to this point where I literally would collapse after the finish line and it became so well known that the medics would be waiting for me and they'd have the ice bags and like.”

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  28. “I don't know if there's just one source. I think sports is definitely a way to, if I had to point to something, I played so many sports going up from tennis to baseball to basketball to track and field across country. Some of those are team sports, some of those are individual sports. And in all of those, I mean, in any sport that's competitive, you're trying to... Ultimately, compete with yourself to do a better performance than you did the last time. And so I looked at sports as this constant, I was in a game with myself and like cross-country was a great example. That sport for me was, I feel like where I honed my goal setting and was able to practice pushing my limits. So every race, if I crossed the finish line and I could still really like walk and had energy, to me that was energy I could use on the course to run a faster race.”

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  29. “And rethink that based on this experience. Because again, how do you make a chair? And then how do you make 16 full-sized functional chairs at the end of the course of a semester? And so what's cool is that the bench has got installed. Students are sitting there, they lasted for a couple years after that. And so the legacy of it not only went to the benches, but the story of what had happened became his story that he told every class after that.”

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  30. “I mean, well, first of all, I was so tired. I had been up for, actually, I hadn't slept for about three days before that. Over 48 hours, I was without sleep. So I was delirious. B, I was just so relieved. And then third, I was like, there's this excitement inside of me. I'm like, I just proved myself wrong. What else can I prove myself wrong on? And suddenly it's like there was so much possibility of anything at this point forward that I come across that feels impossible, I probably need to take a second look at that.”

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  31. “Before this whole thing started. And here I am. I'm sitting in these chairs. The professor's like beaming at me. And it was just like one of these moments that one has in life where you sort of cross a threshold of understanding your limits. And at that point, I had a new bar or a new set of limits.”

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  32. “For the rest of the critique, we all sat in my chairs and we talked about the project. I got very hard marks, obviously. And it was one of those breakthrough moments where you have somebody that you look up to tell you you can't do something and you are literally tasked with something you've never done before. And somehow you persevere through it. You ask for help. You figure it out. And on the other side of that, I was sitting there in this chair thinking, wow, like if I could figure this out, what else could I figure out? This seemed like an impossible feat.”

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  33. “And so it's like now December. It's freezing cold outside, it's Providence. And I specifically chose the slot right after lunch to present because I figured when everyone's out getting lunch, I'll get my roommates and a couple buddies to help me carry all these chairs and assemble them in the space when people come back, there'll be this great reveal moment because nobody has any clue except a couple friends exactly what I've pulled off here. And Tim. My only regret from this project is that I did not have a camera in my hand. Take a picture of Gareth's face He entered the studio. I swear, I'm standing there, and he comes marching in and he picks his head up. And he looks at the room suddenly, and you can see him counting in his head, 15, 16. And he looks at me and he goes, Joe. You've done it You've proved me wrong And I'm like”

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  34. “By the end of the semester, I've amass Sixteen full size functional chairs. And Gareth had no clue. And I actually finished the last chair at about two in the morning, the night before the final crit, the day before the final crit. Critique, right? A critique in art school, you have these critiques where you put your workout and then the professor in the class critique you. And that's how you learn how to improve as an artist or designer.”

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  35. “Study job at the time. I was trying to fund this however I could. And so I'm in the quad one day outside the freshman dorms and I make an observation. Everyone's standing around smoking here in the quad. And there's actually nowhere to sit. Huh? I've got this bench design that I'm going to make. What if I approach the school, get them to pay for the wood, I'll make the benches for my project, then they can have them afterwards to put in the quad for people to sit on. So I go to the head of residence life, I pitch him the idea he loves it, they fund a few thousand dollars worth of this inch thick plywood. And in doing so, I get access to the school's wood shops and the school's craftsmen who work on campus. And so now I've got their help to help fabricate these benches.”

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  36. “And I would downplay my progress. Meanwhile, in my dorm room, it's starting to fill up with these chairs everywhere. And so I worked my butt off and I just that whole semester I was hacking my way through it. And I get to the pawn. So I have to pick one of his chairs and make it eight times. He made this beautiful bench out of just four pieces of wood. And I'm thinking to myself, wow, these benches are really big. That's a lot of wood. I can't afford this. I don't know. I'm just a freshman in college. And so I'm outside.”

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  37. “And so I started by going to the furniture department and talking to upperclassmen. And I actually sat down with the head of the furniture department. Ham is Roseanne Summerson. And I told her about my ambitions. And she looked at me with kind of a crazy face. It's like, you're never going to figure this out. But she was encouraging and she pointed me to some upperclassmen who then started to help me understand Wood and machines and the tools, table saws and bandsaws and lathe and the things that you need to make furniture. And so piece by piece, I started to figure out how to make these chairs. I was sourcing wood. I had access to the shop that they were giving me. And the thing is, I never told Gareth where I was in the project. So every check-in, he'd be like, how's it coming? I'm like, it's all right.”

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  38. “All right, pal. You just lit every fire that you needed to light and figure out how to do this. The thing is, I didn't know how the hell to make a chair. Never worked with Wood before. I never worked with power tools, like actual machine shop tools. And I was really stepping in an unknown on this and I had a semester to figure it out. So I just committed all of my time to making this project happen on weekends, Saturday nights, my friends would be going out to parties on campus and I was in the studio trying to figure out how to make chairs”

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  39. “Joe, I really don't think you can do it. Really focus on the smaller scale. He walks away. And I'm like No fucking way. Buddy”

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  40. “I just had this growing thinking of like, wow, I'd love to prove this guy wrong at some point And so I also thought I'm going to throw myself into this project. There's no way I'm failing. In fact, I want to complete this project. And if I'm going to commit so much of my time to this and if I'm going to make chairs from this designer Garrett Reifild, at the end of it, I want to come out with something I can use. I don't want 12 inch chairs. I actually want full-size functional chairs. And so I'm like, this is a really great idea. I'm going to share this with Gareth. So I call him over and I'm like, Gareth, I want to make full-size functional chairs. And my expectation at this time was that he's going to give me a high five and say, Joe, you can do it. You got this. I believe in you. Instead, Tim, he goes.”

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  41. “In 3D, and you had to do it at 12 inch scale. And just looking at a picture, you need to figure out what it's made of, what's the backside look like, what's the underside to look like. And at this time, I had a growing interest in furniture, furniture design. And I came across this furniture designer from the 1920s and 30s named Garrett Riedfeld. He was a Dutch architect and designer. And he did these really beautiful chairs that are actually in the Museum of Modern Art. They're classics. And I thought, a couple of things. One is as I got to know Gareth Jones, the professor, it became very clear that this guy was super opinionated. He would argue to the death to make sure that he was always right. I would watch him just argue students relentlessly to make his point. And out of that,”

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  42. “And he goes on to explain the Chesset project. And so in addition to your weekly assignments, the Chesset project is this semester-long project that takes place outside of the classroom on your own time, where you have to choose a three-dimensional artist, like a sculptor like Henry Moore, an architect like Frank Lloyd Wright, a furniture designer, a fashion designer, and you had to find a book about them. And from that, you had to select pieces of their work to recreate. And you did it in the format of a chess set, which means it didn't have to look like actual chess set pieces, but you take one of their creations and replicate it eight times for your pawn and had to look exactly like the picture in the book. You took another one of their creations and you had to replicate it twice for the rooks.”

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  43. “And so we're sitting there, and all of a sudden this guy wearing all black with this big poofy head of hair comes out. And he stands in front of us. And he's got this Welsh accent. And he goes, I just want you all to know that half of you are going to fail my course. Because he won't finish the chess set project And I'm thinking as of, oh my God. What it's going to be like here? Like half the people to my left, I look to my right. One of them is going to be gone because they're going to fail out. I'm like, oh my God. And we're all looking at each other like, is he serious?”

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  44. “I go. I've got Gareth Jones for 3D. And he goes, you've got Gareth Jones. What is it? Who's this guy? And he goes, just wait for the chess set project. And I go, what's the chess set project? And he goes, you'll see. So my very first class is with this guy, Gareth Jones, teaching three-dimensional design. And picture this we're in this art studio with these concrete fours, these rickety metal stools, plaster covered kind of work surfaces. It's a little bit cold. It's September New England. And it's our very first class. And I'm sitting around with 18 other freshmen. We're all trying to make sense of where we are in the world and what this RISDI thing is all about. And this is about to be our first impression of what is it like to be a student at RISD.”

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  45. “So I decided to go to Rizzy to study fine arts to be a painter. And I didn't really know what that meant. I had this vision of maybe one day being able to exhibit New York or something, like do the gallery scene. I couldn't actually picture it, but really wanted to go study art and painting So when I got to campus, they have this week of orientation. And you get your class schedule and you get to meet upperclassmen. And so I'm talking to this guy. Fellow student, upperclassman, and he's saying, Oh, who do you have for your courses? And freshman year, they give you the foundation stuff, like drawing, two-dimensional design, three-dimensional design, liberal arts, art history. And so I'm going through the list of teachers, and I say this one teacher's name that makes his eyebrows go up.”

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  46. “So, the buzzer goes off, and it's like time to get back on the court, and I'm still patting down Jordan's leg. And he's like, oh, come on, man. I think right after that, he actually had a whole bunch of points, E threw it on the swam dunk or something. I think the moral of the story there is when you spill Gatorin on Jordan, make sure you clean it up.”

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  47. “Phil Jackson's yelling at me. Michael Jordan spins around and he goes, hey man, watch it. And I'm like, oh my God, my heart's ready. I'm like, Jesus Christ. So I did what anybody would do in that moment. If you spill something, you tend to wipe it up. Right. So I grabbed the towel and I'm patting down Jordan's thigh. Like now I'm like in the huddle, right? Rodman's laughing at me because he realized what he had done. Phil Jackson's like right here like spitting. He's yelling so hard. And I'm like, I'm sorry, Jordan. I'm like trying to like dry his leg up with his Gatorade spill that went right to his lap. And oh man, I'm sweating profusely, right? Because again, you got like the TV crews are like in the huddle too with the cameras on your face. It's like a high stress moment as a ball boy. You had one job.”

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  48. “Left hand over the shoulder. Jordan is facing this way talking to Pippin, who's right next to him. I reached around and Rodman, who's to my left, Turns quickly, bumps my elbow, the Gatorade quickly goes upside down and straight into Jordan's lap. There are only a few times in my life I've been as terrified as that moment.”

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  49. “Yeah, Helva Rosser. And so I'm working at the Bull's Bench. They're down. Phil Jackson calls a timeout and the place goes nuts because the Hawks are up. And in front of me, Jordan plops down. Rodman's on the left. Pippin's on the right. Phil Jackson is like right here. And he's furious. Like this guy's using expletives like you never believe. He's yelling things. I feel like I can feel his spit like hitting my face. He's just like, and I'm like right behind Jordan. He's right here. And the place is, again, so loud. People are screaming at the top of their lungs. And I'm doing my job, right? I give the guys a towel and then I'm giving them a Gatorade. So I'm like, I'm going to start with Jordan. Obviously, he's right in front of me. So I reach around. I reach on this side.”

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  50. “And the place is going nuts. You can't even hear yourself think it's so loud. People are screaming. They're playing music over the loud speakers. And I'm working the bull's bench, right? Which is like you've got Scotty Pippen, Steve Kerr, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jackson, Phil Jackson, Michael Jordan, the whole career.”

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