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  1. Brother, thank you. I'm grateful for you building this space and allowing for folks to come in and share who they are and what they have to offer. And then it becoming this feedback loop of us all growing, of us all learning and growing together. That's you, man. Thank you for that. That's powerful stuff

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  2. It's not just the music, it's not about the music. About the music and more Like doing this, these homies like imagine if you A version on the album that goes for 20 minutes. It makes this into a This healing trance is like a meditation

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  3. These songs too are so deeply connected to us. Beethoven wrote songs, we're listening to this compositions, these melodies, themes, all these things we've heard for years and years over generations. So it ignites people's love not just for music, but brings them back to moments in their life, experiences in their life. And that's what this album, this music is generally about the concept of Beethoven Blues, but also about the humanity that it will bring people together, bring somebody back to the instrument who stepped away for many years or kids who are growing up who maybe I don't see myself in classical music. But now I see, oh, there's a, I see something that was always there, like the blues, can bring it out, but it just hadn't been presented to me in that way.

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  4. Heard it in rock and roll bass lines our whole life the old You know, just thinking about all of the ways that I've heard the blues before even really understanding that it's so ubiquitous. You know what I mean? I'm thinking we here in Jimi Hendry's studio. That's the Pentatonic. There's just so much that you would you can listen to so much and understand it. So when I took Beethoven, I was thinking. If you put that on it Beethoven in the Congo.

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  5. It's the thing that existed in the air, in the thing that we've all felt within. And it took this American experiment for it to emerge into a form.

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  6. In all different ways, you can play the blues, even without playing the scale, because the thing about the blues, inflection, is that if you can capture that blues inflection, you can find melodies that have the blues. You can find voices that have the blues. You can find rhythms that have the blues, mainly the shuffle rhythm, which is something that came from Africa and is the marriage of six, eight over two, a two-beat and a three-beat combined at the same time. And that evolved into the American shuffle rhythm. So all of these things are so interconnected and so sophisticated, so intricate. The blues after all that you can sit on a porch or a ballroom or a juke joint and anybody can sing it. And it's always two verses and an answer. Thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away.

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  7. If you add that note, that's what we call the blue scale. The blues is in the sound of the pentatonic scale. That in and of itself has a perfect symmetry. The blue note is the expression that Our early ancestors in this country created to Add the sense of the American experience to this scale. It's more than a scale. They added this. Exemplify the specificity of America and the experience of American life

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  8. It's an opportunity. It's an opportunity of a lifetime for an artist in the blues provides that. Now, the one other thing in the technical realm, the blues is simple and it's complex. The blues is generally three chords, but you don't always have to be playing those three chords to be playing the blues. It's spiritual, but it's also very much scientific. So if you take these five notes. The Pentatonic scale. That's the sound of the blues. The Pentatonic scale though. Has existed in music since the beginning. Gregorian chants, indigenous folk music, music of drum circles in West Africa, in Ghana, all the different sounds of Appalachia, Eastern music, you've heard this sound Hear this sound in every culture since the beginning. Now, if you add.

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  9. Woogie Woogie, all this that we've grown accustomed to. Now I can also implement that into other spaces of music, which becomes this democratic expression of humanity. So what I started to think about with the blues is there are forms of music that express that aspect of the human condition and that pathos, but didn't have all of the language that we have to acutely express it and also include the range of cultural diasporic reality that has existed since. So now we can take that. And inject these other forms of music, these other expressions, with something that's so profound and so deep and so rooted, so human.

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  10. That idea is something that is about our existence and the human condition. And the blues is an allegory for the human condition in sound. It's a musical allegory that exists within the context of a cultural movement. So that's something that has not happened and has existed before it had a name. So for you to find things like that in the world that are foundational to our existence and then to figure out how do I name them and identify them so then they can be shared. And then furthermore, how do you create a whole system that not only becomes its own form of musical engagement, social, cultural engagement, their dances, their blues rituals, juke joints, stomps, books?

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  11. Yes. Yes. Blues is a form of music. It's also a form. It's a 12-ball form. It's a sound. It's a style. It's an inflection. You can sound like the blues without playing the blues. If you moan or you cry, the instrument wails.

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  12. Know the idea is something that I Feel uniquely positioned to do is here in Beethoven's music and not just playing it as it says on the score, but being in conversation with Beethoven and extending his music. So as we talked about, you know, the idea of streams, this sort of spontaneous composition. You were to take Beethoven's music. and exist within the music as if you were co-composing it with him and adding all these elements that Many of which, all of which existed after His time on earth. So you have things like Flamenco music or gospel music jazz music Blues primarily, which to me. Is Not just musical innovation. Of the 20th century innovation of human expression and spirituality.

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  13. It's the truest expression. Moment calls for what it calls for. And you can't really dictate what the moment calls for based on your preparation

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  14. Feels like Traveling You're moving and your hand is telling you. This is what I want to play. And as you play it You're seeing all of the colors and you're Starts to tell you I want to go here Sometimes it's telling you things that you don't know, you're not familiar. But it's going there anyway. And that's the biggest difference because it's telling you something you haven't practiced. You don't know if you can actually play. You don't know if you actually will make it.

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  15. So see. Do these concerts. I call them streams. It's like stream of consciousness, completely improvised. Spontaneous composition, right? I'll sit at the piano and without any sheet music or any preparation, I will play 90 minutes, two hours. And it really invites the audience to feel This wave is akin to a collective chant, and we're in spaces that we're discovering together. So, when I was saying, I wanted to answer The piano, I was just gonna stream for a minute. You for that. Thank you, Tim. That's beautiful, man. Beautiful to be with you. Oh, likewise. Yeah. I like your answer. Yeah. So what does that feel like to you to do that?

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  16. Your life's idea set. Then, if that's the case, how much, and I ask you this because I want to know if you made a list of the five books or the five things or five places, because I love your list. It's inspired me. What are the five things that you know you could possess in this lifetime if you had to wipe everything else away? And the only knowledge and the only inspiration, only experience, the only everything that you could draw from were of this five. Because I'm reaching a point where that's almost something that I'm willing to live by. Instead of the pursuit of more knowledge, more understanding, more broad vision and connectivity, how do I go as Deep as I can within a handful of things that are for me and leave the rest.

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  17. This is the thing that I've been thinking about for years, this idea that as people, whether creative or not, but it applies to the creative. Obviously, we only have two, maybe three ideas in life. We have two ideas that we are constantly refining, recreating, presenting, refining, recreating, presenting. And it's

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  18. Sometimes things take multiple listens, multiple exposure. If you feel something from something, that's your first signal, the emotional connection. Something even if you don't understand why, or something relates to something you experience or something that you heard you want you aspire to has been revealed as clues or tips or some vision, right? That's how you know that there's many, many, many more layers there for you.

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  19. Everything is received now based upon the context that we have defined within different cultures and all of our culture of humanity and the stereotypes and the practices, the sociocultural practices and all of the ways we relate to each other and exist. We have decided to go in the direction of believing that I can look at you or I can hear something, a snippet of you. A fragment of Tim is all I need to understand. And whereas there's a proliferation of data and we're more connected now than we've ever been. But we're more susceptible to deception as well. And we would rather express and connect in those ways in lieu of going deeper and a billboard and media and all these expressions, which is why I love this because it allows for that. But all these other forms that we have propped up as primary separate us from depth.

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  20. I don't know if I would take that opportunity. I don't feel called to do that. And I also don't feel like we're in a time where anything without context can be received purely.

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  21. Drain you and pour from you, and there's darkness in the world. So then the discernment comes with this sort of awareness. And there's spaces and time when I'm much, much more aligned with that. And it's so clear in so many moments of the deepest, most lasting impact and inspiration have happened when I'm in that space. It's maintenance. It comes back to like it's so simple. It's so simple. And we feel good when we do that because that's how the machine was made. We have joy when we do that. We feel purpose when we do that. It's like the machine was made a certain way. If you take care of the machine that you have, it's going to function a certain way.

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  22. That's hard because you can cultivate portals of giving. You can donate. You can give your time, which is the highest level of giving in terms of intentionally giving of your time is the highest level that you can go. But can you give of your time and your resources and your energy in a way that's not regulated by a portal or something that you set up in advance? Can you live in a posture of giving? Can you create a generous temple within? And can you walk through the world and live in a space where you're unfettered and unbothered by the need, but also you've preserved, you've maintained the vessel so that you don't completely rid yourself of your life force energy. You don't want to be drained. There's many things that can be done.

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  23. How do you surround yourself with all of that? And then, okay, we have a sense of that to some degree. We have a lot of experts in that to some level. The flip is how do you cultivate giving it all the way all the time? How do you give it? The measure of your greatness is the measure of your generosity. How do you give it?

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  24. But that's not a real thing. That's not a real need for me to own what I've been given. Now to own what I've been given also when it comes to how to be primed to hear and to receive the download is found in the mundane things and also the basic things. Do you drink enough water? Do you get enough sleep? Do you feel your heart with love when you can? Do you feel your mind with good things, not even just things that are of good report? Of course it's great, but also information that will empower you with what you have. For me, I've studied music as an empowering force for what I have. I've studied many things, music being chief among them. That's going to ignite me based on what I've been given. What ignites you?

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  25. Yeah, something powerful is going to emerge from that. So for me, it's like owning a car or you have this, you have this thing, it's on lease. And to me, that's it. I don't try to hear, as I was saying before, it's like a dream if it comes. I don't rely on that to be the thing. And I have ways like for you archery connects you or primes you to be connected. I've strayed away from the desire to have this mystical encounter at every turn in order to prove the existence of, be still and know. This is so funny how that's come. When you evoke these mantras, I'm telling you, man.

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  26. Man, Tim, we have to own what's been entrusted to us to own. We really have so much that is divinely bestowed upon us. And you wake up every day as a steward of it all. And then you get up and you have a choice. Do I pick up my phone? Do I give my mainframe away to some other thoughts or ideas or visions or distraction, if you want to even call it that? It's a choice, whatever. I don't really. How did I set that intention prior to laying down the rest? What am I feeding into my psyche? What am I watching, the eye gate? What am I listening to? That's why I make music a certain way. Because I know that for some, that's going to be a few. Prerequisite for them.

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  27. So, youngster, take your time to find the prize. There's no rush. Pace yourself. What doesn't kill you makes you strong is what they say. But until you experience it, that's the only way. The texture that that added to me. In retrospect, is why I continued the inner knowing that these experiences, which are just, you know, a series of unfortunate things at an unfortunate time can be Exacerbated in your mind and in your psyche, especially if you stew it. So I think, and I will tell this to the youngster, that happening to you is the gift of your arrival because it allows for you to figure out upon entry how to process all of the discomfort that's to come in different forms and different ways. So pace yourself. Take your time. It's your time. It doesn't all have to happen right now.

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  28. It all down and build it again a different way, knowing that that was somewhat of a motivation and then landing and sort of dead on arrival felt like it was ultimately the type of failure that it almost not only made me go home but quit music. Just kind of like this isn't my profession. I can just go home. I had a whole bunch of things I could have done other than this. You know, to sit in there by yourself thinking about Is this a message?

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  29. Everything's telling me at this time internally as I'm sitting in the hospital. I remember those days. It was like three or four days I was there. And I felt this sort of, as a kid, you're like, I don't want to tell my parents, but I also don't feel like I belong here. I need to get out of here. And it's also this kind of, there was a dichotomy of coming from this very rich cultural heritage and this beautiful expression of excellence and pedagogy but Juliard being this European classical legitimizing entity that especially as a young black kid pushing the boundaries of what generationally my family has achieved and also musically eventually wanting to become a disruptor from inside of all of it and just in the most benevolent way ripping.

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  30. Of me being in New York first time at Juilliard, first time being away from home. It completely felt like a crash and burn scenario. It's time for you to get out of here.

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  31. To the ER, they say you have walking pneumonia that you've had for two weeks. You have to stay here overnight over a few days while, you know, we give you the IV fluids and the antibiotics and all the things. I miss the orientation of the school year. I missed all the things that you kind of get acclimated to. And there's nobody in New York. I have a second cousin who lives in Harlem who I get acquainted with and we become closer during this time. But I remember thinking, am I supposed to be here from falling out the bunk? And I'm like, no, I can't miss this. So I go back. I'm just in there. Next thing, you know, I'm fainting in the subway. Oh, man. Oh, I'm just exhausted. I got to cool out. Next thing you know, I'm in the night. Some sweat and something's happening. That's my lungs crying out. You know, you've had pneumonia. You've been walking around with this. Between that being the first year.

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  32. Sounds dangerous. Yeah, it's very dangerous. Luckily, there were some friends there who could catch me and take me to, which at this time was, I think it was Roosevelt, the ER, the one that's right next to Lincoln Center, maybe near Fordham. We went there. I'm there. They say, oh, you're exhausted. And maybe you're having some migraines or something. They give me Tylenol. Tell me to go away. I'm having night sweats. I'm basically feeling this sharp pain in my lung. And then I start to pass out again. I feel this intensity. Meanwhile, the second day that I was there, before all this happened, I'm in the dorms of Juilliard. I'm unpacking. I'm doing all the things. The bunk is up. I fall off the bunk. And basically, fracture rib, if not close to it, they do the x-ray. They're like, you got a lot happening. But now, this is the wildest part. I go back.

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  33. A different thing that she has that's significant to think about now in retrospect all the decisions that she made, which eventually led to me graduated high school a year early moving to New York as a minor at 17 and her supporting that. My dad also supporting that as a musical mentor, my first musical mentor, he was the one who was like, okay, New Yorker, what cats really play, bro? You know, in New Orleans, we play. And then there's like a legit thing with, you know, the cats in New York. They're a little stiff, but you'll learn a lot. So he supported that too from a different angle, right? So I went up there and he's like, you know, if you can make it in there, you have a lot to come back with. The vision was never, oh, you'll go there and stay.

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  34. Yes Yes, that is her thing. She's very clairvoyant. It's also a leadership quality has. She was environmentalist before it was the in vogue thing to do for many years. She would at a different time, not having been born in the south a black woman like her would be a CEO of a company.

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  35. I don't know if she had a vision. She mentioned sometimes that there's a sophistication to the piano that she was attracted to, that felt like it was the instrument for someone who is going to apply all of their forces and all of their abilities. It's a conductor's instrument. It's the maestro's instrument. So I know that that was a part of her thinking. It's the thing that's going to allow for you to be as highbrow or as lowbrow as you want.

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  36. I felt like there was a great deal of support. My mother is a visionary when it comes to understanding what someone could be. She was the driving force of the piano being the instrument that I focus on at 11 versus several other things that were in the periphery. I could have chosen the drums.

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  37. That we've never done. I didn't have a desire or a real push to go into music until I was maybe 17 and I moved to New York on my own. And the first story I failed was.

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  38. It was the piano that was the thing. That was something that, you know, I'd alternate between playing in clubs at 14, 15 years old that I wasn't supposed to be in at night after going to school. And then I would also on the weekends be doing classical piano lessons and piano competitions. So alternate between those two realities and also going and really finding this sort of tribe my peers starting bands with first my cousins, Travis and Jamal who are older and multi-instrumental and inspired me, then Troy, Trombone, Shorty, Andrews, who's maybe at the time we met 11 to 12, he had been playing for a decade and touring the world. So we start bands. We're doing club shows. We're doing all these things and constantly just presenting things that are experimental and pushing ourselves to do things.

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  39. Living in Canada, going back and forth, New Orleans, performing at night, going to two schools at once, just this idea that you had the art school that evening in the mornings, you had an academic school. Still getting bullied, still also becoming somewhat of a young musical phenom, but not the best one. So there's like still not really like you don't really know where you fit or where it's all going.

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  40. There were so many bad gigs, bad performances. And I was known as the kid who would play expressionless. I would be playing and it would be all well and good, but my face would have no expression, none. It would be like I was shut off. So I get to the point where there's a long period of hours and hours in the practice room and performances between 14 and 17.

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  41. People don't get that. They think, oh, you were born with a tambourine in your hand and you came out singing. This is not the case. There was a glorious awkwardness that was a decade or more before I touched the instrument. I started at 11 years old. Late bloomer in the context of everybody around me.

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  42. And I grew up as a kid getting bullied for all types of things, man. When I was in school, I'd get bullied whether it was, are you okay? Are you with us? Are you slow? You know, your feet, your nose, your hair, all these aspects of self-esteem that were attacked. So then you go through life in these early years with no real understanding of what you have of value to offer to the world, what you have to connect. So fast forward, you get to a point where you discover music, but it's still something that, you know, amongst my family, I was the youngest and least talented when I was growing up. I didn't think that I would ever be a performer because there were 30 other people who had that cover.

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  43. Man, I grew up in between Ken and Louisiana, which is a very old school southern town, old country railroad tracks running through the middle of it with canals, provincial southern town just outside of New Orleans. In New Orleans is another planet.

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  44. It's because I know they're for my own good. Not that they're all for my own good. I guess the reason is because I don't actually believe that failure exists. Not that it's necessarily for your own good, but failure doesn't exist. There's opportunity for you to take something from the experience. And even if the experience is reinforcing something that you already know, it's reinforcing something that you already know. It's an opportunity for you to see this experience, this thing that you wanted, this thing that maybe you hoped would work out but didn't work out. All of that adds to the fabric and the richness of your character and your experience and your knowledge base so that you, as I say, you go there to know there, you've been there. I've traveled that road. I've played those notes. I know that piece. I sung that song. I own that. And there's always on the other side of everything the opportunity for transformation.

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  45. When they are there, right? We can all say man, if that would have happened to me, I would, you know, slay the dragon. I would, you know, whatever you think you would do most often is not what you would do. And that's not because you're not who you think you are. It's because there's so many other factors you can't know. And for many things in my life that I think about, the things I've learned the most from are when I've embraced the discomfort and realized what I was made of through it.

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  46. It's that. And it's also you only will know when you are there. You have to go there to know there. You only know what it can be for you when you're in the fire. Everybody can talk about what they would do.

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  47. Oh man, it means a lot to hear that. And it feels so much of the time as odd as it may sound, it feels like a privilege to go through it together in the way that we have seen it. It's shifted into almost the orientation of blessing. And that's not to say that the difficulties are any easier, right? It doesn't change the nature of hard things. They're hard, but there's something about life. There's a truth. There's something about going through the fire that is so required. And something about suffering that is so essential. This idea that we're meant to run from pain or run from difficult. Things and find the most leisurely and completely frictionless existence possible. It's such a lie. It's not just a lie because it's not possible, but if it were possible, that would kill you the most.

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  48. With such grace, with such power, with such clarity. I think about that. I think about how there's a certain surrender that's required of all of us in times when we deal with health challenges, whether it's us or a loved one. And you find yourself in moments where there's literally nothing that you can do to take away pain or to take away the unknown and the anxiety of waiting. That's an opportunity for a great amount of growth. That's an opportunity for a lesson to be instilled in a way that almost nothing else that I can think of affords you the chance for, that will be done.

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  49. Yes, and I also borrow a lot of phrases from her, in particular this idea of being between two kingdoms, this idea of the kingdom of the well, the kingdom of the sick. And we all exist in this in-between space. And we have a passport for both, which is something that she created this understanding of that through the way she lives through it, the way she gracefully moves through this time.

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  50. So there's so much that you have to cleanse yourself of from believing or from holding on to that's not actually connected to the best outcome, but you can't always know that, especially in crisis.

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