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Jon Batiste

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  1. With for the most part had an experience that something beyond explanation the universe is carrying us in some way. Thy will be done is trusting that there's a divine logic to it all. When there's nothing that you can do that will be done, that will be done. That will be done. Because the belief of this divine logic allows for you to understand that there's a path and you are accounted for in that path you are accounted for. There's so much that is allowed for you to be the culmination of so many things has led to you and there will never be another you. You're the only one. That specificity alone is something that comes to me when I'm in that thy will be done. It's a revelation of so many other things, which is also allowing for the right.

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  2. Be still and know. Be still be. Just this idea. I've sat with that and each phrase has a different meaning. Even be still and than breath or room tone. There's messages in that space. There's messages in the crevice. So I've done that and sat in that and it's changed my entire perspective on a crisis or something that I felt perhaps I was wrong or perhaps there's so many opportunities for us in this life to transmutate darkness into light or even darkness into just into perspective. Another one is thy will be done, which is one of surrender. Now we believe there's a divine power. However you name it, whatever your relationship to it is.

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  3. Yes, for sure. So two of the ones that I, not for stage, but just more for crisis that I go to is be still and know, which is from the Bible. Be still and know that I am God. It is this idea that I'll give you a practice soul. Be still and I am God. Be still and know that I am. Be still and know that I.

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  4. The quality of the vessel, even a broken vessel, which is oftentimes the most effective, the most relatable, the most universal. But there has to be that space in you that you have saved that is the sacred space. It doesn't have to be, of course, there are great ways to cultivate physical world, sacred places and practices. So for me, those mantras and my prayers and that sense of understanding how to always know if that's there. And if it's not there, it might be time to take six months a year or whatever. I need to take off so that then I can know that it's there. Right now, I'm in a period where it's very strong. So it allows for me to be fearless, which is something that I haven't felt that this strongly in a while

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  5. I was so man, that was such a great feeling seeing you there. Just because I understand you get it on so many levels. You really understand it's such a spiritual practice. It's not so much about me showing up and playing instruments or, you know, look at how great the band. Look at this dance. Look at the more and more, more and more. And it always has been, but more and more. How do we continue to refine this spiritual practice, this ritual of community, of sharing, of artistry, all of it? And what are we pointed at? What are we focused this life force energy at next? So those mantras for me are the, if you don't live it and it's not a part of you, it's not going to come out of the instrument. What we play is life, what we create is life. The quality of the human being.

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  6. I haven't shared all. I share some, two of them we share at the shows when we perform often. One is one that I thought of for children. And I thought of for the child within me. And I feel good. I feel free. I feel fine just being me. And you go over and over and over and over. I feel good. I feel free. I feel fine just being me. Circular melody. I feel good today. Oh, so good today. I feel good. I feel free. I feel fine. One, two, three. Bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, boom, boom, bump. So everybody sings along automatically. Everybody staffs.

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  7. You're ready. So, when I don't have inspiration or I have a block, I do nothing. I live. And it's absolutely because of the deeper inspiration that I'm blessed to feel. I feel it's been cultivated. I'm connected to it. And I know it's real. It doesn't have to greet me every day. I know it's there.

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  8. Exactly. And the zoom out gives you such a perspective on that that it makes you fiercely prepared for when the dream comes because then you'll embrace it because it's your top priority. It's the chief motivation, but you can't make it come.

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  9. You can perhaps interact with your dream once it arrives. And it's so ephemeral, even remembering your dreams oftentimes can be difficult depending on what space you are in your life. It makes everything that happens delicate and it makes everything that I commit to in some ways very tenuous when it comes to the mammoth mechanics of our industry. And I'm getting to a point which is a part of the realization where perhaps there's not a context within the industry and the mechanics therein that as they exist today, that I can find true inspiration from and that I can connect the dots of my, there's a constellation of inspiration that crosses so many spectrums of society. And I can't access it if I play by these rules.

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  10. So, when you have to zoom out, when I come back to the creative process, it almost has to be the opposite of what it used to be, which is, you know, let me put myself in a position, throw myself in the water and figure out how I'm going to evolve and do something. Then it eventually went to how do I go into a whole other craft? How do I create? That's why I love the idea of what we call genres, which are just silos that promote ignorance. That's fun for me. That's not based on a truth. So to zoom out helps you to assess all the truths, the laws. This is what is, right? And then the motivation has to come in the opposite way of force. It has to come almost like a dream comes to you in the night. You can't do anything about your dreams per se. But feed the dream machine. You can't generate the opportunity for you to have a certain dream.

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  11. That was the gateway drug. But what happens for me at this point is the zoom out. And the zoom out is this perspective on all things, time, the perspective of your lineage, the understanding of your lifespan, all these things that require you to zoom out to really assess and feel in your to grasp. And it makes those commitments feel minor to me, even if they're attached to some monetary outcome or some consequence that is deemed dangerous by the way that we our metrics on these things almost become so irrelevant to me that it requires me to have another motivation in order to really reach the thing that is most Impactful and most resonant within.

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  12. Of pressurized creativity or pressurized experience that leads me to discovery, that it pushes me forward. And I think about things that are not music, like cinema, or there's so many things that are not connected to the actual craft that I draw from much, much, much more than actually thinking about the inspiration of music and the fruit of the craft itself.

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  13. Least for me, that was something that brought me back to an understanding of the muse, which is this idea that suspense is created when there are stakes and when you don't know what's going to happen on the other side. So you then have to put everything on the line that you believe in that motivates you, that powers you have to put it on the line in order to move toward whatever your desired outcome is in a limited amount of time and sometimes without enough intel or intellectual processing of the information to even know which direction you want to take it in. You just have the moment. So for me, I love to create these pockets of suspense, these pockets of

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  14. You know, I was checking out Alfred Hitchcock the other night, Suspense. If you think about the device of suspense in cinema that he mastered and you experienced that through the things that he created.

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  15. I think those early years, coupled with now by my own volition, but when I was in college, Were times when they sent me for psychiatric evaluation. And those early years, there may be some route to your first question about why wasn't I speaking? There may be some. Within the way that my psyche was formed. And for me, also the superpower within that, that's allowed for me to develop a relationship with presence and with being that allows for me to trust and have faith and also just the natural state of an artist is to have complete faith, unwavering faith in the ability for you to make this thing real, that no one sees or can experience yet but you And you have to do your best with words which fail to describe it, to communicate, to collaborators, to potentially join the ranks of building this thing, you know?

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  16. Man, it's such an intuitive thing. Is such a trust based relationship. You don't force it. You don't force it. You can't force it. It just tells you when it's time.

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  17. I've never said that, but it's been coming up in the last, I mean, Sulai and I have talked about it before just because we have that type of relationship of exploring and challenging each other. But the form of the vocation is shifting and the gift of music for me and its meaning in my life and its application within the vocation is also shifting

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  18. It's electricity, its community. It's what the world could be. It's an aspirational vision of us. I thought for a while, like, what is the field that I enter into to create this or to cultivate this? What is that space? And I didn't have words for it for many years and it evolves over time and it requires performance, but it's so much, I've never said I shared this, but I even think, I mean, we already getting deep, so why not? But this idea has led me to places that in recent times, I don't know. How much longer I will be performing or be a musician?

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  19. Yeah, it was just. We got to this point where the energy was fierce. You know, just like a shaman just moving the energy around. We got to this run and move. And that was the launch of it all. And I remember thinking back to when I was that kid in second grade. And I was almost booed off the stage if it wasn't for Keon, right? And I'm doing this move at the Grammys. And it's happening in real time. There's a collective life force energy that's coming from it. And that's the thing that creating that moments like that, moments long before that, whether it's in the subway, just creating that energy was the call.

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  20. Where we all run in place. We break the fourth wall. We jump into the audience and we run from the stage and the vision Jamal McWilliams and I, we were coming up with this vision of, let's just break through the screen. Let's break through any pretense. Let's build an energy with our collective here, this group of us, that just permeates every soul watching. I remember even saying at some point on the stage, touch the screen, get a blessing. It was almost like Tony Robbins' motivational speech meets, you know, baptism.

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  21. Both this sort of excitement by what he was doing from the audience and also this sort of what is wrong with this child to think that he could be up there I was mortified and I remember leaving that scenario and thinking I would never I had so many moments that's the thing that I remember most about performance early on every moment I tried to perform I faced rejection and left thinking I don't ever have to do that again there's nothing in that for me now fast forward you know I'm thinking about that dancing moment because it came back to me again a couple years ago when we were at the Grammys and we were rehearsal and I'm leading this performance with 30 dancers and there's a moment where we all run the tape is probably somewhere out there but there's a moment

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  22. No, you got to get away from that. I said, man, listen, let me try to run a man. That didn't work. Everything I turn to didn't work. Okay, let me try to do the moonwalk. Keon just did it too. That didn't work. It was a mix of cheers and laughter.

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  23. That was part of it. I remember my first time on a talent show, dancing, which is another aspect of it, dancing, something that I was not naturally accustomed to doing besides just at family functions. And it wasn't something that came natural to me. I was more of someone who... Was a spiritual mover versus the most precise dancer. But I went on a talent show with my best friend. We were in elementary school at the time, and he goes on stage. He was a very natural dancer. And he convinced me to join him on the talent show stage in front of the entire school from K through eight, the whole school, all the teachers, everybody just gathered in the auditorium. The music starts playing. It was like some sort of decrepit Michael Jackson beat, like Fisher Price that you did.

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  24. Oh my gosh. Well, performing for me, my first experiences with performing were traumatic at best. I mean, the level of performance anxiety that I still have is unbelievably paralyzing to the point that I've developed mantras and different ways of reaching for what's inside and also just a greater sense of purpose and philosophy that really is a foundation that lifts me to the point of taking the stage and sharing it because it's bigger than oneself, right?

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  25. You have to understand what is it that's yearning to be expressed within you. Even if Dreadfully afraid of it You can have something within That seems so far away from the reality of your current state. That it couldn't possibly be for you. In your mind, in every fiber of your being is telling you this isn't what I should be pursuing. This isn't who I am. That's the one right there. That one right there.

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  26. So it's a certain aspect of winning them over that we worked on. How do we create harmony in this scenario? And then that extended. Now let's go and strike up conversation with people that we don't know and talk to them about things that they're going through and then let's share some things that we don't want to share that we're going through.

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  27. I thought about it from first the perspective of how do I get to a point where all that's within me, all these things that I feel, these ideas that I have, this vision becomes a reality. So that took so much stepping outside of my comfort zone. We call it throw yourself in the water. We would do things like when I was in college, my band and I would go to the subway and we would play for people. We wouldn't ask for money. We wouldn't bus. We would just play concerts for people who weren't expecting a concert to just get to the point where we were fearless about presenting art and also wanted to change the atmosphere in this community of a train station that has all these people from different walks of life now locked in the train together.

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  28. Yeah, exactly. You already peeped it out, Tim. Around 14 or 15. It was music that allowed for me to have an opportunity to present myself. On stage, you have to present yourself in a way that is amplifying aspects of what's inside. And ultimately, you have a decision to make as a performer to decide how far between who you actually are and who you've created to project on the stage are you?

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  29. Where I was observing and gathering, observing and gathering, observing, gathering. And then eventually it became okay, let me emerge into a new era. Let me try to mold some things. And it started with music. Let me try to mold the world around me. Let me try to shift things and create things and influence things, dare I say.

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  30. I've had such a great upbringing, but there was something about being born into the world that felt like I needed to observe before I participated. Felt like I needed to watch what was happening. And synthesize what was happening, all the different perspectives, all the different personalities growing up around a lot of colorful personalities, a lot of sounds and rhythms, a lot of life. Life force en And a lot of danger. So, I think the aspect of being in all of that meeting my natural state, my innate makeup, it was deeper than introspection, something that I still have yet to put words to a fully understand in my early years put me in a space.

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  31. Man, you know what's amazing is those years, I don't have so many memories of those years either. And I don't understand why. I've just started to excavate that. More and more in the last year. Trying to figure out what was going on, what was the context for all intensive purposes, my life has truly been blessed.

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  32. And then in that moment, you have the ability to discover something that's much greater than anything that you could invent or devise because there's something that happens with the synapses. The way that you respond to seeming calamity. That brings you to your highest potential

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  33. Mistakes Mistakes are amazing. Mistakes are brilliant. It's a gift to go about your day. For something either a mistake or something that you didn't plan an interruption, some seeming calamity Happening. That allows for you. To not only respond, but to create.

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  34. Oh man, wow. There's something about that I think about. Often, how do you maintain a flow state in waking life throughout the mundane? How do you embrace the mundane and find? The Muse into Monday. Without having to go to some sacred place.

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  35. That's what I'm trying to retire from. Or, I want to outsource that. Which that almost becomes a way of life. It's like a philosophy

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  36. That's absolutely incredible. Because all those things you think are mundane and that you are trying to get away from doing.

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  37. Can't wait to go. Have been, I'd never been, but I've always wanted to just go there and like spend a long period of time, like months.

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