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Jonathan Rupprecht

lines on the record: 69
first: 2016-05-18
most recent: 2016-05-18
sittings or episodes: 1
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“In the air, you can do things in the air. I know that sounds a little crazy, but to me, when I think of airspace, I just think it's amazing to me that we can now build upwards in ways that we couldn't before. Well, thank you guys for joining the A6NC podcast.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love that. I'm kind of excited by the art aspects. And when I think about this in the context, when people think of swarming drones, I love drone swarms. I think it's amazing to see this orchestration of multiple drones in the air. I know people view it as a very menacing thing, but I think there's something very artistic and elegant and beautiful about it. But the other thing that really excites me, when I think of movies like when they redid the first three Star Wars movies, which were just awful for the record, as everyone probably in this room agrees, I love the visual, though, of the fact that you had all these aircraft in the sky and that people could jump from one aircraft to another and that there's this, and even in this movie, the fifth element, which is this really lame, fun movie, there's this amazing scene of people literally doing the same kind of thing. Like they're in the air and there's layers, not just like one layer, but there's layers of aircraft in the air. And it just gives a sense of actually living your life in the clouds, you know, where you can actually have like cafes.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then I would say the last thing that I'm excited about that's in aviation generally, but it's perhaps somewhat unrelated is supersonic because we haven't, we've had a complete ban on supersonic in the United States over land anyway since 1973. We haven't had a supersonic jet since the commercial supersonic jet since the Concorde.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was interesting to me Each other and route information. Yeah, and some of the plans are actually very similar to how the internet is structured in terms of public key infrastructure and using SSL certificates. Right, exactly.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was one of the interesting quick sidebars about Jonathan's notion of identity or some kind of registration tied to like an entity. What was interesting to me when I immediately thought of is like just like IP address and the internet, like you essentially can have all these drone nodes communicate with each other and route information as a result of that.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then I think pushing it forward a few years, why do these all have to be unmanned systems, right? Why can't you have an autonomously piloted aircraft that carries a human, right? Why shouldn't we get human pilots out of the cockpits just as we're getting them out of behind the steering wheel and cars? You could imagine a world where robots are flying us around. And that's much way cheaper. You don't have to carry a pilot. You don't have to pay a pilot. Maybe we could have air taxi systems that are economical again. Maybe, I mean, just huge safety benefits. I think in general aviation, something like three-quarters of all accidents are pilot error in commercial aviation. I think it's about half. And so, you know, safer, what can we do to redesign airspace that we're working on, FA is working on...”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the other thing going along with the drone racing, which is all first person view, I mean, just put imagine putting on an Oculus Rift headset and just taking a drone up and looking out of the drone's camera and just being, so you.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just the few groups out there that have started doing drone racing and have really kind of tried to address how to make watching that exciting. They've done an amazing job, you know, like watching drone racing league and a few of the others. It's going to be super sweet. I also, I've been a little disappointed in drone racing just because now that I've started watching these guys that are doing it now, these guys and girls, they're already so good. I've already had...”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm excited about the entertainment side. So I follow some of the hobbyist goings on around first person view drone racing. And these are people who put on goggles and fly drones around tracks. And I think it's just, I think we're only a year or two out before this is broadcast on ESPN because it's just some of the most exciting things to watch.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm super excited about airspace integration and about us getting to the point where we can actually have large quantities of commercial drones in the airspace kind of. Interacting with commercial traffic, routing correctly and things like that. And it's the kind of thing where it's going to take a concerted effort by a lot of different groups coming together. You can't have Amazon using drones plotting their own paths and Google using their drones and plotting their own independent paths with no interchange of information between them. The NASA UTM program is working on a lot of that stuff. And I'm super excited about that, super excited about transponders on aircraft, things being registered properly. You know, actually having accountability. And once we get to that point where we've got integration, where we've got accountability, then that just like opens up the door to all these different uses. And being able to have a point where a company can sit down and say, how can we use drones? Okay, this is a thing that would help us. And then there's just unknown path to actually use them correctly. Right now, we just have so much gray area left in that system.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guess from our perspective, right now in the United States, we're still at this stage where the military has been using drones or using them every single day. You have millions of consumers literally who are using drones in many cases every single day. And the major commercial companies have yet to really step into the fray and move from testing of the technology, which is where most all of them are at today, to actually using it as the way they do things for whether it's the insurance industry underwriting claims, catastrophe response or utility inspections, replacing climbing up towers and manual flights with helicopters, with drones. So I think that's the thing that's most exciting to me and something that I also expect we're going to see in the next 18 months. Commercial companies actually move forward with commercial drones and aerial data as a way of doing business.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But in terms of how the law should evolve, as long as we're treating drones as any other kind of airplane, I wouldn't recommend this, but if a drone is trespassing over your property and you choose to shoot it down, it's treated as shooting an airplane.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've heard policymakers say, well, what if this goes up right next to my bathroom window and looks in? And the answer is there's already a law against this. It's probably a state or a local law. And it would just be enforced in exactly the same way. So there doesn't need to be, I think, a drone-specific preemptive. These types of laws should be technology agnostics. Shouldn't matter whether it's binoculars used or whether it's a drone used or a ladder.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can and you can have geofences that allow for you to only fly within the bounds of properties that you have permissions to fly or section 333 exemptions to fly over or the permission of the property owner.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Are using Hractor Hids. So, all of that, I intend to just be kind of an example of, I think that. Yes, this is a technology that could be used to invade people's privacy, but with some basically technology controls on it, it can also add a tremendous amount of value to society without invading people's privacy. And so there are technology mechanisms to if you have permission to fly over property A and property A abuts property B, it's relatively easy to make sure that photos that are taken over property B are immediately deleted or are never taken at all or photography is only taken over the property that you have permission to fly over. You can do a little bit.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People are quite comfortable. They actually are happy to have that on them. And now there's a variety of different applications around enabling people to run by themselves and alert someone if their GPS position ever stops for five minutes or more.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With a couple technology additions to your cell phone and the allowing you to turn the GPS on and off and delegate which programs have access to it and when they have access to it and opt into allow 911 to have access to your GPS position”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think this is a case where technology can really be a significant enabler 10, 15 years ago, if you had asked everyone whether they were willing to carry around what's essentially a GPS tracking device in their pocket, people would have thrown their arms in the air and said absolutely not.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, then the third category of safety that I think has come top of mind for a lot of people is privacy. So, one example this weekend that I thought was really interesting is the New York Times decided to fly and use drones to see the mass graves that were being unearthed and they weren't allowed to look at them and I thought it was great. I saw that I think someone on Twitter gender worth them or someone said, hey, and we sent in drones. And I'm like, yeah, that's great. And then I was thinking of the counterexample of that at an individual level where you might have a star who wants her privacy and she doesn't need to be spied on by, you know, paparazzi. And they're going to use drones just like anything else. And so what are some of your thoughts on that use case and that concern?”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of the drone. And then if you look at commercial jets, it's even smaller. I mean, I think I got, I think the last number that we got was 41 billion years of continuous operation, which is three times the age of the universe. So pretty safe. I'm not very worried about a small, like a two kilogram drone taking out a 737 or anything like that.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“More than a stick of butter. And that's what's used in a number of countries for the threshold for what can be unregulated. And for two kilogram drone, I think we found that there might be human injury once every 187 million years. Continuous flight hours. Continuous flight hours.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what we think is that the evidence seems to show that for small, you know, one of the things we do is we look at individual drones versus swarms of drones, because birds, they fly in flocks. So we look at the subset of bird strikes where it's just a single bird. And then we look at the species of the bird and assign it a weight based on the average mass of the species. And so what we found is we looked at the two kilogram thresholds, and that's what's used in a number of countries.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we do hit birds all the time. Sometimes they cause damage. Sometimes they do cause injury or fatalities. But in the context of just the massive, massive number of birds and then all of the flight manned flights that we have, it's actually a very low rate at which they cause any threat to humans.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the other one I was thinking of was collisions with planes in the air. It's the one that manned planes. And so this is something Sam and I have done some research on. And we use as a sort of parallel phenomena planes hitting birds. So there's actually many orders of magnitude more birds in the airspace than there are drones. And so what sort of conclusions can we have? And the FAA actually has 25 years of data on sort of voluntarily reported bird strikes. And so we looked through that.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're saying drone, don't fly here, and it's going to abide by your rules. And that's really good for eliminating kind of the initial low-hanging fruit of the people that are going to follow the rules. But, you know, I mean, a really good case in point is literally anyone flying a drone right now within a 30-mile radius of Washington, D.C. Right now, in order to do that, you need to essentially override those controls because that 30 mile radius is a no drone zone. Which also incidentally is kind of confusing if you are an RC hobbyist who's been living near DC for decades flying RC planes, but now because it's a quad rotor instead of a traditional RC plane, now it's not okay to fly there, it's kind of a confusing set of rules.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you can't Yeah, you know, the problem at the end of the day with something like geofences, which obviously totally necessary, totally a step in the right direction, but you're trusting the device, the operator to essentially police itself.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or a prison, for example. There's a lot of assumptions we make in building a security perimeter about, you know, fences, right? But now that you have drones, an eight-foot fence versus a 20-foot fence versus a two-foot fence, it's pretty much equivalent. Doesn't really matter. You can fly your drone over and deliver your contraband kind of regardless of the height of the fence. So it just kind of breaks down a lot of our like traditional security models.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the F-16 and the National Guard doesn't really help when you have just a quadcopter flying somewhere. That's not really an appropriate level of response. But the spread of drones on the consumer side really kind of brings in this level of, it kind of changes the rules. In thinking about airspace security, facility security, things like that, when we talk about how it redefines various ways that we think about things, if you're thinking about perimeter security of something like a power plant, like a nuclear power plant or something.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Involved in aviation at all, right? You know, the amount of training required, the amount of money required up front with planes and fuel and all of that. But then in addition to that, it's a question of at the end of the day, there is an enforcement mechanism up there. You have plane registration. With who owns it, the FAA can come and cite you, can take away your licenses, things like that. They can track you down. They have transponder requirements. And also at some point, if you fly into restricted airspace, the National Guard will literally fly an F-16 up next to you and tell you to land.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, I mean, it's kind of interesting too because when we first started working on this and thinking about this, it was still pretty early in the space and we weren't really seeing drone incidents occurring. Whereas now it's like literally one a week, if not more. I think to me, the big difference is that there's kind of a gap in Airspace enforcement, right? Like if you're talking about commercial aviation, civil aviation, At some point your enforcement of airspace restrictions, there's kind of two things that come into play. One is just the barrier to entry to be”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not too worried about that personally. I think that 250 gram allowance could be called the paper airplane allowance. Right. Well, because actually under federal statute, paper airplanes are aircraft. Wait, are you serious? Yes, yes. So paper airplanes are the FAA.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was having dinner about a year ago actually in Berkeley, and a drone flew right into the side of the restaurant, crashed, and then just Just about fell on top of the head of this girl who was standing there. So”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is that they are flying, we call them flying smartphones or flying computers. We think of them that way, but they are flying objects that can follow the sky and hit your head. They can get in your tree. They could kill your cat. I mean, I don't mean to be frivolous about it, but these are realities. So let's talk about the safety implications of drones and what are some of the concerns that people have and that you guys who are really involved in this space have heard.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so, this is not even, this is just the weight of the drones themselves. It's not including any kind of payload for commercial applications where you're doing delivery. It counts a payload. Okay. So let's take a step back for a moment and just talk about the safety implications of drones because what's different, obviously, with the intranet and drones and any airspace objects.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it's that big, you'll have to register it, right? And one of the things that we're looking at is how dangerous is it to have something a more flexible standard that goes up to two kilograms, which is what's used in a lot of other countries?”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a consumer registry now, and that registry, it's not expensive, it's five dollars, but it could potentially stop people from taking that step. There's, I think, a lot of lawbreaking going on right now because I think there's something like a million plus consumer drones and only 400,000 have registered, right? We've created a new law that has turned us all into a nation of lawbreakers. But then the other thing is this isn't.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. And in fact, isn't part of the problem, and I mean, in the current state that the regulation process can be prohibitive for, I mean, the registration could be really expensive for small operators. Or I don't know enough about it. Like, what's the...”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And sort of like the early internet, you could look up every website in like a phone book, right? Sort of the mentality that still exists in the US with drones and the Swiss and the Canadians, they're comfortable not knowing exactly how many commercial operators there are.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So when I reached out with the Swiss government on this, and this is another analogy with the early internet, I was really asking them for an estimate of how much commercial operation is going on in their country. The reply I got back was, we're not the United States. We don't keep a tab on Every single commercial.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, because the current law, if I'm not mistaken, at least locally, I know that you do have to keep drones and then your visual line of sight. And that sort of seems to defeat the purpose of the very purpose in certain use cases, like if you're a farmer mapping your fields, is to be able to go beyond the line of sight.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it's flexible for that reason. So there's very few, for example, in Switzerland, very few bright line restrictions on what you can or cannot do. They'll have guidelines about, for example, going beyond line of sight. Those aren't written in stone such that if new technology makes that safer, that they can't be revised sort of on the spot.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we picked drones, we picked genetics. So there's these big things where, first of all, major emerging tech. They're very much in the news. I picked drones personally because as a Canadian, I was seeing drones in the industry take off in my home country. And so we actually focused on Canada and Switzerland and the Swiss government has taken a very risk-based approach to drone regulation.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How much is possible in the air? I don't mean to be cheesy, but drones excite the fuck out of me because I know they really do because it's insane to me that, you know, we talk about man, like women, humankind, wanting to like fly. And now we're talking about a whole.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, it's interesting you reference innovation arbitrage because the example you shared is basically, and this goes to what Jonathan was saying earlier about some of the innovation happening around the world, is that when certain places have more regulatory flexibility, it then draws that industry correspondingly. And I think the reason this causes US lawmakers to freak out a little bit when they hear Amazon saying, hey, we might start developing drones in Brazil or another country, it actually becomes correlated to a direct loss of the economic opportunities that are provided as a result of this. I mean, I'm thinking of the internet example. It'd literally be like saying, you know what, we're not going to let commercial applications happen on the internet. So let's develop them in China and India and Brazil and South Africa. And I'm just listening the bricks right there. But that is kind of the risk to me at stake here when we talk about this because I think, again, people are really underestimating.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We discussed some of the innovation arbitrage around drones when it comes to Canada. Some of that was also film because there's film industries in Toronto and Vancouver and they could make shots and not have to worry about asking for forgiveness.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, it also Hollywood actually helped a lot on the 333 exemptions, right? Because they kind of had some of the biggest immediate incentive to get commercial use approved. And also, what I thought was kind of cool is they paved the way for the use of drones in filming because they already had all of the safety procedures and flight manuals and things that they'd been using for manned helicopter shoots for years. So they literally just took those and shifted them over and called it this is the manual for shooting with drones. And that's what kind of lets you get the 333 exemptions for shooting so easily now.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The corollary for a lot of these industrial inspections is the ability to do things like fly underneath a bridge, fly underneath an oil derrick. The top side of some of this infrastructure was always accessible with manned helicopters, albeit at a very expensive price tag. But now you can go inside of buildings. We're seeing companies do inspections of the insides of everything from large oil containers to even large gas turbines. Interesting to me about the Hollywood application is that they actually were some of the earliest adopters and they adopted it even before it was legal for them to do so. So Hollywood is like the crazy.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Passing through Windows and so on. I know a Hollywood expert, but I imagine in the past they do a shot that pulls into the window and then there'd be some hidden cut and then reset the shot from inside. Now you could presumably just open the window.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And whether it's in Hollywood and taking shots that were previously from manned helicopters or whether it's the utilities industry getting high resolution photos of power lines from what used to be manned helicopters, that's the starting point. But then it gets really interesting when you start understanding what wasn't even possible with man helicopters and now is becoming possible with small aircraft, including new shots in Hollywood that previously you can't get a helicopter within five and ten feet of a person and kind of circle that person, but you can do that with a drone, especially as these things are becoming smaller, safer, lighter weight.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yeah, I was actually going to say on the creative side, one of the things that I think is some of the most interesting stuff is on filming, just being able to do shots that used to require helicopters, that used to require tremendous amounts of coordination and time and money. And now it's just like a drone just allows that so easily. So kind of the entry level for what used to be a helicopter shot is like nothing now.”
2016-05-18 · a16z Podcast · a16z Podcast: Airspace as the Next Internet-Like Platform · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source