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Jonathan Rupprecht

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  1. Exactly, especially when you don't know what it's going to look like, because that's the whole point of, again, not to be platitudish, but that's the whole point of innovation. Like it's supposed to surprise you in terms of what's possible. Like we can list all the use cases we want in this room, but we truly have no concept until we see companies and people start really inventing things around it.

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  2. I think it's especially interesting on the creative side, like what you can do with photography, aerial Hollywood filmmaking, and some of the really creative aspects of this because to me, the internet wasn't just a commercial platform. It was a creativity platform. And I'm curious to hear what you guys are seeing on that front as well.

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  3. So we've kind of outlined some of the more dangerous jobs and use cases that drones can help address. Now let's think about sort of some of the things that there are opportunities you wouldn't have had if it weren't for drones. Because when we talk about all those application use cases, insurance, agriculture, et cetera, in a lot of ways we're talking about disintermediating existing alternate approaches that are expensive or prohibitive or difficult or unsafe, you know, like having to do ladders or oil and gas inspection, things that are just impossible.

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  4. Flare sac inspections for both onshore and offshore infrastructure and oil and gas, also oil derricks need to be inspected and oil platforms need to be inspected for corrosion and damage on a regular basis. And a lot of these inspections similarly are very dangerous to do or with the case of Flare Stacks. Often the infrastructure needs to be shut down so that people can actually climb up on it. But with a drone and an aerial perspective, it gives you a completely different way to assess the status of the infrastructure without having to shut down critical equipment.

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  5. There were 14 deaths in 2013 alone in tower climbing. So there's not that many people who climb towers, right? So this is a fairly high percentage of the people who do this for a living. These are high towers and people fall or something goes wrong. And that's one that's gotten a lot of publicity recently. There's a lot of other jobs that are really dangerous as well. For two story steep rooftop inspections of residential properties, whether it's during the underwriting phase, whether it's during the claims phase, can also be a pretty dangerous job as well. And many companies, it's kind of an opt-in job. They don't assign it to you. You have to kind of ask to be that person climbing up on the roof. Oh, really?

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  6. I think people don't realize that cell phone tower inspections is one of the most dangerous jobs in America. I mean, people that OSHA called OSHA declared it the number one most dangerous job. And that's going to be, yes. Why?

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  7. You guys are kind of getting ahead of that. I want to take a step back for a moment and think about again this we're all really reinforcing this concept of airspace as a platform for innovation. I think it's actually kind of shocking to think about what it means to be able to do things in the sky. And I just want to take a moment to pause on that.

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  8. Anybody with 500 bucks can be flying a drone, suddenly it becomes kind of a different story. And suddenly, you know, people who don't really know the rules of the road, who aren't really sure what they're doing or

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  9. Totally the case that we don't even know what the real killer apps for drones are yet. You know, I think there's a couple spaces that are kind of obvious that we've been thinking about so far of delivery and inspection and all these sorts of things. But there's so much potential there. It's kind of crazy. I think part of a lot of our focus is on thinking a little bit further forward about the airspace management aspect. I think using commercial drones early on in the process is pretty easy when they're still very expensive when the sorts of companies that can use them are still very limited. You know, much like security in that early internet, right? The internet is just a connection of a bunch of research centers and government, then it's not, you know, security is not really that big of a problem. Everybody on there is trusted. Everybody on there is doing the right thing. But as those barriers to entry start coming down as, you know,

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  10. Just people quote unquote with authority to develop it, but really all kinds of people everywhere were adding capabilities to software into the internet is when we really saw this bloom in all the different uses for it.

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  11. Yeah, so the Section 333 exemption process was created last fall. And now just nine months later or so, there's over 4,000 granted exemptions in the U.S. for commercial use of drones across a variety of different industries. But we're seeing a lot of exemptions in our own customers using drones in the insurance industry, in agriculture, in utilities, in all types of industrial inspections, oil and gas, land management, forestry, wildlife conservation. You know, that's one of the things that I think is so interesting about this industry is just the wide variety of applications and use cases. They're really endless. We're hearing about new ones all of the time. And I really think it makes that analogy to the early internet very, very real in that it was designed and developed with several really important use cases in mind, but ultimately when it was kind of released into the wild and not.

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  12. Which was several months ago. They're still not out, but they're coming. It'll probably be sometime next month. There will be some permanent commercial drone rules. And in the meantime, as Jonathan said, we have these 333 exemptions that basically allows people to sort of negotiate or apply with the FAA to say, I want to operate commercially for this purpose and the FAA might allow it or might not.

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  13. So the Part 107 rules back in 2012, Congress, actually with some foresight, actually with a lot of lobbying from large commercial industries. A lot of lobbying, but good for Congress. They passed a provision of FA reauthorization bill at the time to require the FAA to come out with commercial drone rules. By September 30th, 2015.

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  14. So the terms do get blended and so on. But yeah, I would agree that what we're interested in here is some partial or full autonomy at some point that you're going to eventually be able to just tell it what you want it to do and it does it.

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  15. Which, by the way Right, that includes drones, which was just for a quick definitional thing on drones because I think people actually still are confused by this sometimes. I noticed this in the early days of this community, an online community about drones, which is that drones are different than RC copters in that they can fly waypoints. And so they can follow a pre-programmed path and that you can, they're not like remote controlled, basically, in that context.

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  16. Hopefully soon with part 107, do we see a lot of those companies that either started internationally expanding their operations to the US or a lot more of these companies that are in the US starting to get some commercial traction?

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  17. Yeah, happy to. And I totally agree three years ago around the time you wrote that article, we looked at the global landscape for commercial drones. And most everyone at that time was thinking about consumer and the hobbyist drones, and they were thinking about large military aircraft. But this idea of using drones for commercial applications was relatively new. And when we looked at the landscape, most of the companies who were doing anything meaningful in the space were international. They were in Australia, they were in France, they were in the UK. There were only a few countries where they either said, you know, hey, we're not going to regulate this at all. We're going to allow it. Or they said we're going to have a process by which you can be a commercial operator of drones in the UK and France were really leading the way there with hundreds of commercial operations years ago. And many of the companies in the space said, well, we're just going to ignore the US or if we are in the US, we're going to start all of our sales and operations and research and development outside of the country. And only now with the Section 333 exemption process.

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  18. To affect the success, right? If they knew where we were today, they would have allowed commercial use from the inception, right? And so to me, I was just thinking about what would people do with airspace if they could use it for commercial purposes, if it wasn't, you know, we've had remote controlled airplanes for decades, hobbyists use them. So in that sense, consumer drones are nothing new. You can't do anything commercially. And so what would people do if you could use it commercially?

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  19. Well, yeah, when I wrote that op-ed, I think it must have been about three years ago when I was first starting to get interested in drones. The thing that I noticed immediately was that drones are completely legal to use for hobbyist purposes and completely illegal to use for commercial purposes. And it reminded me of the internet back in the 1980s in the internet in the 1980s, it was this research program that the government had, but there were guidelines that MIT had an AI lab and the guidelines for students were like, you may not use this for any commercial purpose. We could get in trouble with the government. It's just illegal. And I thought about the people running this program. They didn't mean to like hold back the internet. They were very, I'm sure, very well intentioned. They wanted this to succeed. And they weren't thinking about how much holding something back from commercial operation was likely to.

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