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  1. Hate it when a reporter or a moderator has the opportunity to ask a top question and he or she refrains from doing that. And I know how it feels because when you are with someone in power. And then you notice immediately your hand starts sweating and you're thinking, oh, should I ask that question or not? Well, that's exactly the question that you have to ask. So I'm very saddened and sorry when I see a journalist that has the opportunity to ask a tough question, a difficult question, and then they don't ask it. And then the greatest thing that I'm seeing is a new generation who's unafraid who's in your face and going with a cell phone asking questions. That's the most beautiful thing that I've seen.

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  2. I wish I would know the answer. I would say that for many people they feel threatened. They feel attacked and that they're reacting to that. And some of the comments are directly related to President Trump. But on the other hand, I'm seeing many Latinos, again, as I just mentioned, that are openly telling us, I feel comfortable with Donald Trump. I honestly don't know how the Latino community is going to react. Again, in 2016, 29% of Latinos voted for Donald Trump. I don't know if that number is going to go up or not. But I think we as the rest of the country, the Latino community is divided and the division is called Donald Trump.

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  3. You're going to see a lot of different. And the growth is there again 60 million Latinos right now in 30 years, 100 million Latinos. We're buying a lot of stuff. We're using phones. We're consuming, we're traveling. I think it's a great business.

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  4. I think they're buying it to a great house. Whether it's Bezos buying the Washington Post and largely leaving it alone, I think he's been a pretty good owner. He has other issues, but that one he's done a good job. You see a lot of different shifts. And the growth is...

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  5. Wrong with that name? Yeah, we're for the C network. Well, not anymore. And now we are fully part of the American experience. And we've participated, for instance, in this electoral campaign in two debates in many forums. In other words, people do understand that without Latinos, it is impossible to make it to the White House. And to be part of that of a company that led the way is just fantastic. I think they're buying into a great house.

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  6. Yes, just this morning it was announced that Two companies are buying Univision, 64% of the company. And I think they're buying into a great company. We are the leaders in the Hispanic market. We have a great news department. We're doing things that nobody else is doing. Nothing. They were listening to To all the people that are saying that the future is Latino. Again, I think that when I see it 30 years ago, nobody pay attention to who we were. I used to work for the SIN network, Spanish International Network, not exactly the best name.

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  7. They also end up talking to you more, which is interesting. Mark Andreessen used to say that someone asked him why people keep talking to me in Silicon Valley, and he said it was Stockholm syndrome But they do. Once you become an access journalist, you get

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  8. And I have a rule usually with people with a lot of power. I have two things in mind. The first is that if I don't ask the question, nobody else is going to do it. Obviously, that's not true, but that's the attitude that I have. And the second one is that I'm always assuming that I will never talk to that person again. And if you think of that, then it's going to be a completely different interview.

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  9. And one of the things access journalism, I think, is over the idea that you get anything from access is one time the head of Uber is like, we're not going to be talking to you. I go, oh, fine, good. Uh-oh, not that. Of course, he's gone and I'm still there. But I mean, it's just, you don't need it anymore. And I think journalists have been trading access for shitty coverage for so long.

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  10. This is not a time to be silent. If you want to be silent, you got to do something else. But this is not a time to be silent. And I know it's not easy. The more power they have, the more the tougher that we have to get as journalists.

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  11. This is what happened when I was in that press conference and when I got ejected by a bodyguard taller than me, well, everyone's taller than me. Only two reporters, Casey Hahn from MSNBC and Tom Yamas, they stood up and they told Donald Trump, you cannot do that. And thanks to them, I was able to go back to the press conference and then ask my questions. Nobody knows that I came back and I had seven minutes with Donald Trump back and forth. But all the other reporters, they stay silent. I bet that today it would be different. I bet that today would be many more Tomiyamas asking the questions and confronting President Trump. This is not a profession for people who want to be silent. If you want to be silent, you gotta choose something else.

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  12. Yeah, and for the Latino community, it is very important for us that we are being counted because we're growing and if we grow more, then it's going to be, we have more power. We don't have that power yet. Again, four senators cannot represent the 60 million Latinos. And then when you tell an immigrant, don't worry, just answer the questions on the census. Nobody is going to do anything against it. Can we trust the government? I mean, can they trust the Trump administration? That's the difficult part.

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  13. And these privacy laws in order to be able to do it right. So I am slightly worried about the abuses of the data that's collected. And then the fear of people of giving up data, although they do it every day. So I think it's going to be one of the biggest stories, I think.

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  14. Wow, it's you know, it's all about data as usual, you know, and the ability of people to give accurate data because so much is based on it. In some ways, I think that tech companies should be doing the census because they already know everything about everybody and where they move. So I think it's going to be critical. The ability to screw with two things, voting, people are talking about voting machines, also voting databases are more at risk. The ability to change and address slightly, and then you can't vote. The ability to suppress votes, I think, is really much more at risk than people realize they're focused only on the machines, which also need to be secured and backed up and using this technology that's super interesting called paper. But I think that the census is the same thing. It's a data play, and it's going to be open to so much abuse. And you're already seeing that. It requires that we have a functioning Senate, for example, to pass these security laws.

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  15. So, yeah, I would say pay attention to what we have to say, pay attention to those who don't have a voice. Because when you talk about the Latino community, it's just those who can talk on MSNBC and CNN. But the fact is that there are many voices that are out there and that we are simply not listening to. And the future is there. Cister Chavez used to say in 1984 in San Francisco, he once said, we've looked into the future and the future is ours. It's just the numbers. For the first time in the Latino community, we're going from big numbers to a little power and it feels great but still we are underrepresented. We only have four senators. We are about 20% of the population. So our role as journalists is different. My role as a journalist is not only the role that you would expect for another anchor in another network. It's not only to give information, but also sometimes to take a stand. And I know it might be controversial, but that's the way.

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  16. That's something that media tended to do the monolithic, looking at all groups, whether it's African Americans or gays or anyone else. I was thinking about that the other day when they were covering the guy, the NSC guy who's completely unqualified for the job, Richard Grinnell, and I was thinking, I have nothing to do with that gay guy, and I'm gay. And they were covering it, they were covering the gay aspects of him, and I was sort of like, that has nothing to do with what's happening.

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  17. Now it is not. It is very, very different. Second and third generation Latinos tend to marry outside the Latino community. My son, Nicolas, without the His Porto-Cuban Mexican-American, and he feels more comfortable with football than with soccer. In other words, we are very, very diverse and don't think of us as a monolithic structure.

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  18. I think if the easiest way to explain that, just try to go from the traditional turnover of Latino to the new term Latinx that you just mentioned. And then with the term Latinx, many people don't feel very comfortable yet with it, but it's much more inclusive. It includes everybody. It includes groups that in the past... And if you understand that we are not monolithic. That we are incredibly diverse, that we are very young, that we use social media more than anybody else, that we are connected to our phones, and that when I got here to the United States in 1983, it was so easy. You were saying, oh, Latinos, yes, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and Mexicans, that's it. Next.

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  19. Well, again, our job is to confront those who are in power. Of course, report reality as it is, please, and be careful, be very careful. But then, especially in moments like this, when we have a precedent like this, when we have still dictatorships in Cuba, in Venezuela, in Nicaragua, when we have women being killed in Mexico, our responsibility is to ask the tough questions. And if we don't do that, then nobody else is going to do it. That's what we do to ask tough questions.

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  20. But what do you imagine? I feel very bullish about journalism. I do not feel everyone's sort of like, oh, we're being attacked, which we always were. And I'm reading right now the Ron Cherno book about Hamilton. I've been reading it for four years now. I am. I literally pick it up. I read four pages as I put it down. And I'm like, I'm only on page 604. But on page 604, it's all about his use of media and media at the time under assumed names. He wrote under all these unusual names to go back and forth. And it was a really ugly time politically. It was an ugly time from media point of view. I was reading about, I'm going to, calendar, James Callender, the one who was used by Thomas Jefferson to attack. It's the same. It was the same. As I'm reading it in this fourth year now, it's the same thing that's happened. So I'm very positive about it. I think this is not a new thing.

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  21. Which was also a social media campaign too, me too. A lot of the stories started to begin to bubble up and people began to get brave around it. Of course, there's been a backlash just the same way, although this is a great victory. When you think about what's really happening, let's finish up talking about journalism to journalism right now. That's sort of like one of those journalism conference questions.

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  22. Not to be public, not to go to work, not to go to colleges, not to buy anything. So it's going to be a day without women in order for Mexicans and for Mexico to realize their importance. And it's a protest against the macho culture in Mexico, to put it in context in the last year in 2019. More than 34,000 people have been killed and more than 1,000 women were killed just because they were women. just because of that. Something has to be done Andres Manuel Lopez Abrador hasn't been able to put a stop to that. So the impact of the Me Too movement here in the United States, just imagine it's going to be an incredible scene to go to Mexico and then suddenly all the women asked protests deciding today you don't come with me.

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  23. And let me just say about that the impact that is having worldwide. That's what we're doing on Univision. We're trying to approach stories in a different way. And for instance, in Mexico right now, I don't know if you're aware, but on March the 9th, there's a huge, incredibly important protest movement. And on March the 9th, all women in Mexico have decided.

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  24. Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I was writing Jodi this morning. I was texting with her and I said most of the credits should go to the women who came forward and testify against them and the stories like Ashley Jodd and others, but you have to take a moment to understand your impact. And I thanked her. I said, thank you for my kids. I have two sons and a daughter. And I said, thank you for my daughter, but really thank you for my sons.

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  25. But simply a great journalist. I wanted to show you, that's why I brought this. When was the last time you read a paper like this?

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  26. Exactly. Well, that's wrong because nowadays you have to be everything but an anchor. You have to be able to move from one platform to the other. You have to be able to survive in social media. You have to be anything but an anchor. Anchor is not good.

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  27. Not in a network, not in a TV network, because our job is disappearing. I remember when I started my career, I was 28, I was an anchor. It was not because I was the best or the worst. I was the only one in the network. And so they put me for a month, and then it was two months, three months, and it's been 33 years. But everybody wanted to be an anchor, I remember. Everybody wanted to be Peter Jennings.

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  28. No, no, everything's on the record, but no, I can't. It would be unfair for him and it would be unfair for the other candidates

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  29. Well, as a matter of fact, I'm going to have that opportunity in the debate on March 15th. Right, that's right. In Phoenix, Arizona.

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  30. It's very damaging. And as journalists, again, we can go back to the beginning of the conversation. It is our responsibility to question those who are in power.

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  31. I've been living here in Miami for quite a long time, and Florida might be gone if the vote depends on that. Let me just say clearly, Cuba is a dictatorship. It's been a dictatorship since 1959. Venezuela is a dictatorship. Nicaragua is a dictatorship. And that's where you have to start. You cannot start by saying, well, maybe they have a great health program, or maybe they have an education. If they kill thousands of people in Cuba, if they have political prisoners, if they don't have... Opposition parties that cannot be a democracy and you cannot tell that to people who personally suffered from dictatorships. So it's going to be incredibly difficult.

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  32. So, something that ethically might not be acceptable as defending a racist suddenly becomes acceptable if the economy or Cuba or Venezuela or Nicaragua becomes more important.

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  33. Saying that they were going to vote for Donald Trump. Now they sort of vindicated and they feel more comfortable saying yes, I'm going to be voting for Donald Trump. So the fact is, if within the Latino community, more than 29% of Latinos will vote for Donald Trump. And according to history, if the Republican candidate gets more than a third of the Hispanic vote, he usually wins. So that's where we are right now. The question is, if you voted for Donald Trump, are you a racist? If you voted for Donald Trump, are you a sexist? Well, many people are putting those questions aside. And many people are thinking, well, maybe the economy is more important. Maybe Cuba is more important. Maybe Venezuela is more important.

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  34. And I passed through the radio side all the time, and I used to listen to people calling and saying, well, I'm going to vote for Donald Trump. And back then, for many Latinos, many Latinos didn't feel comfortable saying that they were going to vote for Donald Trump because of the sexist remarks that he had made to access Hollywood and because of the racist remarks that he had made against immigrants. But still, I was listening to people calling in and saying, yes, I sort of like Donald Trump. Well, I should have stopped and listened carefully because we made a mistake. We didn't see this wave that was happening in this country, this resentment that was happening in this country. And 29% of Latinos voted for Donald Trump. And what I'm seeing right now in 2020 is that those who were uncomfortable saying that they were going to vote, I'm talking about Latino voters, that they felt uncomfortable.

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  35. I think absolutely, absolutely. I mean, even I'm sure you're having sometimes the same problem when you are with friends or family, sometimes you have to avoid Trump and you have to avoid that conversation because otherwise it's dividing families and it's dividing groups. Let me give you an example. In 2016 where I work here in Dural, when you come into the network on the left side is the TV side and on the right side is the radio.

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  36. I told her when she dies, I'm going to have her brain looked at, and like for FTE. So Fox trauma. But anyway, she called me and she goes, I really like what Bernie is saying. And I'm like, what? Because she was sort of trumpy, but she doesn't like Trump because he thinks he's gross. And then at the same time, she likes the tax cut, things like that. And so I don't know. That's my answer.

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  37. It does. And so we were discussing that, and one of the things he was asking about was what did I think of Bernie Sanders? It was really interesting. And I was like, I do not know what to think of Bernie Sanders. I'll be honest with you. I don't. And then a friend of mine who was a Sanders person said, it's a short jump from disliking him to liking him, which I thought was. Okay, all right, okay. And it was interesting. And then my third experience was my mom, who just stays down here in Florida and stuff, and she goes from, she's a Fox News watcher, so that's all I need to say, an elderly Fox Newswatcher, so you can imagine what's happening there to her brain.

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  38. I don't know. I think everyone's confused. I think I'm the same. I was telling the driver who drove me in today. I'm the only person. He was asking about homelessness in San Francisco. And I said, it's been politicized. It's not as bad as it looks. And there's a lot of really important trends that are happening there, including housing prices, including having a more tolerant feelings towards poor people than other states.

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  39. What I'm seeing is that the so-called resistance The rebellion to Donald Trump somehow is working. What we don't know if this rebellion is going to be enough, big enough to avoid the re-election of Donald Trump. That's the way I'm seeing it.

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  40. The Donald Trump is trying to revert the demographic revolution that we are seeing in this country. Again, just remember, in 2044, everyone is going to be a minority. And that's the kind of America that Donald Trump doesn't want. So he's trying to revert that, but it's almost impossible. It was in June 2015 he announced that he wanted to be president. But then so interesting, in July 2015, already the majority of the babies being born in the United States were coming from minority families. So the change is unavoidable. It's unstoppable. He cannot really stop it, but he's really trying and trying hard.

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  41. What is the ultimate impact on this country of that? I write about it from Silicon Valley's perspective they're not getting as many a lot of innovation as going elsewhere across the world. Immigration has been a critical part of the building of Silicon Valley and most of the CEOs are immigrants. Elon Musk, Sachinadella, Sundar Pachai, each of them, I could name dozens and dozens.

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  42. So he has been successful at stopping immigrants from coming in and by creating fear in other countries that if you try to get into the United States, something terrible is going to happen to you and something terrible is going to happen to you if you try to cross from Matamoros to Brownsville. And then you see people from the cartels trying to kidnap you or asking you for money to come into the United States.

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  43. What Donald Trump has done is more than deporting undocumented immigrants because Barack Obama deported more immigrants than Donald Trump has done so far. He has been successful at stopping immigrants from coming in with visa programs, banning people from certain countries from coming in, and even stopping legal immigration. Every single year we used to have about a million legal immigrants, legal immigrants coming in and now that number has gone down to about 600,000.

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  44. Well, now Mexico is the wall. Yeah, as you know, Donald Trump said that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. So what happened is that he hasn't been able to build anything at all. At the border in Mexico, he's not paying for the wall. However, there's a new agreement between Mexico and the United States. It's called Remaining Mexico Program. Donald Trump by stopping Central Americans crossing their southern border. So Mexico in reality has become Trump's wall. And the new National Guard in Mexico is becoming actually the new immigration police for Donald Trump.

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  45. Would you be willing to legalize 10 million undocumented immigrants? That's what we are asking. And those are kinds of questions that you don't hear in other networks.

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  46. Way to cover this, I think We are giving voice to people who don't have a voice. When was the last time that you saw an ABC, NBC, CBS, or CNN or Fox News, an undocumented immigrant Very rarely, and we do that all the time. The fact is that we have 10 million people in this country who are not criminals or terrorists or rapists, who are contributing to the economy, and we have to do something about it. So that's the first approach. We are giving, for many people, they are invisible. In our job, my job is to make them visible and to making sure that whatever they are feeling and whatever they have to say is being transmitted to the candidates, for instance. So we're asking the candidates, would you stop all deportations?

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  47. So, how do you cover that? When you're thinking about covering this, how do you assess how the networks are covering the elections, what should be covered, if you could change it in any way, what do you think is the critical way to cover this?

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  48. And it was decided in Arizona with the electoral votes in Florida, 29 and the 11 electoral votes in Arizona, it would have been a completely different issue. And everything has to do also with immigration. What we are seeing is that the country is being transformed and we have someone in the White House right now thinking that the way the country should look is in the 1920s or in the 1930s.

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  49. And that's a major change. That's an incredible demographic revolution that we're seeing right now. Latinos will go from 60 million to more than 100 million. Nobody is going to be able to make it to the White House or any position of power without the Latino vote. That's what's happening. And in this election, for instance, for the first time, the Latino vote is going to be larger than the African American vote. In other words, there's going to be more Latinos eligible to vote than African Americans. And we've been discussing the 2016 election and what happened in Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin, and Michigan. Well, the truth is that maybe the election was not decided there. Maybe it was decided here in Florida.

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  50. Not necessarily the way I see it, the big picture, the way I see it here in the United States, we're having four major changes. One has to do with climate change. That's another issue. Another has to do with technological revolution that we just discussed. Another incredibly important has to do with the Me Too movement and the fight for equality in this country. And then the last one, the last change is what I call the Latino wave. In 2044, everyone in this country, everyone is going to be a minority.

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