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Judd Apatow

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  1. Yeah. And they are. They are awful. But a few people fight past that and then they figure it out. But for a while, it makes you question your very essence. And if it's your dream and it's going bad, it's scary

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  2. It's bad. It really depends on how it's bad. Sometimes you try new jokes and the crowd hates it, and it makes you laugh. Like you get off and you're like, oh my God, that was brutal. And you're amused by the brutality of it. Other times... When you feel disconnected on stage and you feel the audience, just go, This ain't happening and you just lose the thread on it. That's depressing. But if you succeed most of the time, it doesn't bother you that much. It's when you're young and you're awful. And the only way to get better is to do it all the time. But for a while, you're awful almost every night. And then you wonder should I stop? And most people do say I am.

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  3. Unpleasantness. I always talk about this with people because I feel like some people do it for healthy reasons, some people do it for unhealthy reasons. It's hard to judge each person's experience of doing it. Clearly, there's one reason to do it, which is you're needy and you need a few hundred people to say, you're okay. But also in the best form, it's just an expression of who you are and your creativity. And it's a way to connect with people. So when it's working really well, you're having a conversation with people in a way you would never have in life.

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  4. Yes, I mean, he's a very nice man. What I think he's discussing is when you're on stage and it's going well, like you're very present. You can't think about anything else. And I think he's a very serious meditator. And there's something about this stage that it's relaxing because the problem you're dealing with is very specific and you can think about anything else in your life while you're there.

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  5. But she just said to me, I think you're funny. You could be like Woody Allen. You should pursue that. And what's interesting is it's not like that I liked that teacher, but it's not like I would have ever thought if that teacher said something nice to me, it could change my entire outlook of myself. And in a weird way it did. It was an adult saying, Yeah, this work, you should do more of this.

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  6. Radio station. Yeah, I had a teacher named Jack DeMacy who ran the high school radio station, was like a film teacher at our high school Sass and high school. So I was like the station manager of this high school radio station. But I remember interviewing congressmen and it was like kids having their own radio station. I don't know if the signal got far out of the parking lot, but we were running around being DJs and playing jazz that no one likes to listen to. And then there was another teacher, an English teacher, who read something I wrote and encouraged me. I was supposed to write my biography, my autobiography. And instead, I made something up, probably because nothing really good was happening in my life and I didn't want to talk about it. So I just said that I was a CIA agent undercover at the school and I started talking about all my romances with the teachers.

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  7. He should have wrote on it. I'm Ronald Reagan, and I'm going to end the Cold War in the future. This will be valuable as it predicts my future.

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  8. Even if it was like Bobby Nystrom from the Islanders was so cool. And part of your brain just goes, oh, this is what you're supposed to be with people. You're lucky that they buy anything that you do. And if they want to say hello, you should be happy to do it.

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  9. Sure, because I was also an autograph freak. I was always trying to meet people and get Billie Jean King's autograph or Robert Conrad. And so I had a lot of interactions with people and some people were sweet. And when they were sweet, you would remember it for the rest of your life.

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  10. I think it was a, you know, for me, I'm not religious, but you have those things that you realize, oh, because he did this for me, it made me believe that my dream was possible because the guy I thought was the funniest guy in the world acknowledged me. And it just shows the power you have to affect other people

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  11. I have, I have, and also we took a photo for Vanity Fair once recreating it in the reverse where he is with the tour bus knocking on my door. And it's one of the great moments of your life having that experience to take the photograph with him.

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  12. And then I put it in his mailbox no stamp. That's so stalkery. And I didn't think much of it. And like three, four months later, I got a book. He had written a book called Cruel Shoes of Short Stories. And he wrote in a to Judd, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was speaking to the Judd Appetal. And so it's just a weird thing that I made him laugh. That's what I thought. That's what I took from it. That he would not have sent the book unless my letter attacking.

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  13. He was like Beyonce in this moment. Yeah. And I said, Well, why won't you sign in the street? And so he just kind of laughed. But then didn't. And he said, I'm sorry. And he was very sweet. But then I got mad and wrote him this letter that said, dear Steve, you're the funniest man in the world, but you treat your fans like garbage. And if you don't send me an apology, I'll send you address to Holmes of the Stars and you'll have tour buses passing by 24 hours a day.

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  14. Is that I was visiting my grandmother and I would always make her drive by his house no matter where we were going, I would say. He was like

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  15. In 1978, I was 10, 11 years old, and that's when Steve Martin was just on fire with the jerk and his standup and being on Saturday Night Live and his albums. And I was pretty obsessed, as obsessed as you can be with an artist of any kind. And so I've told this story a lot. I feel bad for him that I'm always telling it. But it is a weird, great story.

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  16. Conscience. I've got enough guilt as a Jew. I don't need to be responsible for Trump. But he was always trying to figure out if it was the moment to run for president for decades. And so I actually do not think that that's.

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  17. And all of them turned out to be correct. Like, what the point of that joke is correct. And all those jokes about his ineptitude or whatever were right. And then afterwards, someone wrote a book in the book they tried to say, that was the night that Donald Trump decided to do. No, I honestly think you.

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  18. So we had this conversation and we decided let's try to write tougher trump jokes because we felt he deserved it because of the birthrism thing. And we didn't want him to run for president. So I pitched John this idea that maybe you could just have the president recount an episode of the apprentice and talk about what a great job Trump did and then John and I think some other writers put together the best episode explanation and then later that night Seth Meyers

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  19. He murdered. It was ridiculous. But the next year, John You know, contacted me and said, Do you want to help out? And we had a conversation about the speech. Most of it was written and he was asking me else do you think it needs? And we were trying to figure out if there was a topic that wasn't covered. And I just said, I think you went too light on Trump, this birtherism thing is about this. It was right.

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  20. Work this up together. We did, you know, I went to the correspondence dinner the year before that and I was touring the White House and suddenly John Levitt, at the time speechwriter for the president, walks out of a room and says I'm in there writing the correspondence jokes for the president. And I thought he would then say, come on in. Oh my God, this will be so fun. You write jokes on a professional level. And instead, he just said, well, nice to meet you and sent me packing. And so at the party, I was like drunk. I'm like, that was brutal. You should have led me in that room. What's the matter with you? The president needed my jokes. Of course, he didn't because he.

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  21. Not that shocking because most people in politics don't do it at the highest level. Like when I worked on the correspondence dinner and gave some jokes that were performed, I was just amazed at how good he was at standup that the president Clearly, we're not talking about Trump here. Yes. Although...

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  22. I think so, but I mean, I think when you make a speech, I guess if you make a political joke and it doesn't go well, that could be very embarrassing because you're out there with an idea that you...

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  23. People would boo. Yeah. And that's what it is. And he's, many would say the greatest ever. And people might cheer for the first minute or two and give him a break on the first joker or two. But how quickly you can bomb even as everyone's favorite comedian is ridiculous. Also because the expectation is high. And if you're trying out new things that most of them are kind of clunky, you're going to fail. And so you're not just getting this comedian isn't funny. You're getting my favorite comedian of all time isn't funny.

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  24. I came out to USC and studied screenwriting, but mainly because there was no major for stand up. And I was really into standup. And then at some point I stopped because I was getting work. I created the Ben Stiller show with Ben. And suddenly that was taking off. And I took it as a signal.

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  25. Well, I did stand up from the time I was 17 until I was 24, then I stopped because I just was getting more writing work. I felt like the world was telling me you should be a writer.

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  26. I think because no one wanted to talk to them, I don't think that anyone cared. Like now every comedian's nightmare is that their friend says, could you be on my podcast? But back then, there was no long-form interviews for young comedians. No one was asking Gary Chandling to talk for an hour about the art of comedy.

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  27. Yeah, because there were no podcasts in 1983, 84. And I wanted to hear young comedians like Leno and Seinfeld talk at length about what comedy was and why they did it.

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  28. You know what? I wish I could do it now. I wish the girth wouldn't happen. So I wanted to Out of this strife and into show business and content.

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  29. Yes, and what that was about was what I did as a kid. My dad would be at work. I'd go home. I'd make myself a grilled cheese sandwich. And I'd slice a piece of chocolate cake and a glass of milk. And I would alternate between grilled cheese sandwich and the cake. And then I would watch the dinosaur show like all 10-year-olds do. But looking back, I mean. I know this sounds weird. It was some of the most fun times. I mean, it's just me hanging out with Mike Douglas and Lucille Ball and Yoko Ono. Yeah.

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  30. Yeah, I wasn't good at sports, and I'd sit home and watch Merv Griffin and the Dinosaur show religiously, which is weird for a 10-year-old, but I loved it. I loved 1970s show business.

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  31. And that made me nervous and made me want to get a job. I mean, that's to sum up, I thought I need to make money. My parents are fighting. They're kind of going broke fighting each other. I think I need to take care of myself. And so at a ridiculously young age, I decided to try to be a comedian and a writer.

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  32. And so having a nice car wasn't really about having a nice car, like feeling loved in the world. And she like nice things because that's how she connected with her father in probably a very unhealthy way. There's a lot of guilt in our tribe.

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  33. Yeah. So when you have a mom was a hilarious but a little manic and unpredictable. Kind of an amazing but peculiar woman. And she was very materialistic. So, you know, we were upper middle class and then we weren't. And Whenever she had money, she would spend it. And so at one point, I gave her some money and she leased a Mercedes. And I said, why don't you get a Camry or something so you don't have to worry about your bills? And she goes, because I'm not an animal. But then I found out later that my grandfather, who was a jazz producer who produced like, you know, Charlie Parker and Janice Joplin, that he was gone a lot. And so when he would come back from the road, he would bring her a dress. And after she died someone explained to me that her materialism was about love, that that's how her dad said he was sorry for being gone a lot.

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  34. And years later, I said to my mother, You have to go to therapy. You're just, you're so neurotic and manic, you have to go to therapy. And I finally got her to go. And she walked out and she said. Told me I was right about everything.

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  35. Everyone kind of moved around, but my sister moved into my mom. My brother moved in with my grandparents in California. Everything kind of broke apart. And so it was just odd. And then, you know, when your parents are getting divorced, suddenly there are single people in the world. So you're not just seeing your parents split up. You're seeing them dating. And you're getting a sense of what their needs are and what's unmet and how they feel about their lives and their journeys. And it's a lot of adult.

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  36. There was a lot of guilt about enjoying myself because If I was with my dad and what became my stepmother having a great time, my mom was mad. She felt that

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  37. I think that when you're young, you don't really understand what's happening. And my parents were really not happy with each other, let's say. So you're exposed to a lot of that. I think that you feel weird because you're like them and they don't like each other. And you feel like, well, if you like dad, I'm kind of like dad. I'm half dead, and vice versa. So I think it makes you feel weird. I also noticed later in life.

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  38. Into poetry. Do you know I never wrote another poem again? Like, I was just going through some old stuff. I think I was 15 when I wrote that. And it's clearly a sad cry for help and kind of hilariously vulnerable in the way teenagers are. But I never wrote another poem again. I didn't sit down and go, this is kind of fun writing poems. Poems were dead to me as soon as that one was over. That's good.

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