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“Yeah, well, it needs to put forward people who are going to be able to broaden the reach of the party, people who can demonstrate in a willingness to take timeless conservative principles and plan to the new circumstances of the country so that people who are not typical Republicans say, you know what, that party is speaking for me and my family and my community and they're going to confront the issues that I'm concerned about in a way that makes sense to me and not going to be easy for either party to do that. And both parties, even if the party wins, it's going to have to do that. Even if whichever party wins is going to have to do that because both parties are being disrupted and these forces that are disrupting, both parties are not going to go away and both parties have had a run. coalition was the Obama coalition is not necessarily every Democrats coalition and the Reagan coalition that mattered when Ronald Reagan was alive and in the decades afterwards but”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He meant it in a nice way. Both parties are going to be roiled by internal stresses and strains if they lose. Republicans will be.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's not what he said when he stood up on a stage in Dallas and spent 20 minutes tarring my posterior by saying I was a complete moron and an incompetent boob. So I don't think that'd be too credible. But look, stepping back.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, he's the underdog. I mean, the Democrats have an easier path to two hundred seventy electoral college votes than Republicans. He's got to win all the Romney states, and as you know, three of them are up for grabs, North Carolina, he's behind Arizona and Georgia, barely ahead. He's got to win Florida, got to win Ohio, but that only gets him to 253. He's got to find another 17. And I think he'll win Nevada. I think he'll win Iowa, but even that only gets him to two, what is that, 265, and that last five, he's got to win either.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Defining of the opponent. Yeah, and then same in Florida, Marco Rubio, 11 points up. I don't think he's really 11 points up, but the CBS poll said that. Well, how would you write the rate?”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but what I'm seeing lately. Lately. What I've seen in the polling this year is, look, we got a record number of undecided and record number of weak adherents. We're back to 1992, maybe 1996, and every one of these candidates with one exception is running ahead of the presidential ticket on the Republican side, and that one exception is by the end of the campaign, he'll be running ahead of the presidential ticket. It's just that he's not well known, Indiana. But in the rest of these races, I mean, look at Rob Portman in Ohio. Talk about the quintessential battleground state. And you mentioned the CBS poll new poll out battleground state poll showing him up by, what was it?”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“on its own. But the interesting thing is in the minds of most voters in these states, he's not us and we're not him. They're sort of looking at the presidential campaigns for both candidates as being separate and apart from the Senate races themselves. It's very odd. And we could have a situation like 1992 where whichever party wins the White House, people say, you know, if we think Trump is going to win, I'm going to vote Democrat. If I think Hillary's going to win, I'm going to vote Republican for the Senate because I don't want him to have a blank check.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For reelection, they were Running a presidential year Well, the fact that they're running in blue states in a presidential election year creates a headwind of one chance.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I'm also troubled by some of the things that Hillary Clinton has said and done. I think a lot of Americans are saying about this election is this the best our country can do. You're asking you'd now get into the dangerous questions, man.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's the format. I think that's the formula for Republicans and it doesn't involve sort of changing your principles. It involves sharing your principles with every community in every corner of the state.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, but that's the trend everywhere around the country. I mean, but the fact of the matter is that in Texas, we win their votes. And why and how? Because we're a party in Texas that represents the diversity of our state. When Bush ran for re-election as governor, a minority of our ticket were white men, majority were black, Latino were women. And Republicans, our governor got elected with 50% of the Latino vote. Why? In part because he ran a TV ad with his mother-in-law in it. Anglos looked at that ad and said, God, he's got his mother-in-law San Nice. That's not the case.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Theoretically, they add up. I mean, high school educated white voters turn out at 53%, college educated at 78%. If you pop that number from 53 to significantly larger number, the math could work. Will the math work? We'll learn in a few days. I will say this, though, stepping back for just a minute. Think about Texas. Big red state. We have a much higher percentage of the population that's Latino than the national average, higher population percent of our population black than the national average, higher percentage of the population that's Asian American than the national average. We are younger than the country, we're less affluent than the country, and yet we're a big red state. And it's because Republicans routinely get forty to forty five percent of a low registered state.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“14 The same margin, yeah. Well, look, don't ask me to do, it's not my theory. We'll see if their theory works out in about 50-some-odd days”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mitt Romney got well. Well, the theory that the Trump campaign theory is, is that they'll offset their losses among Latinos with an increased share of the blue-collar working class. A high school educated Democrats.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's any party that has the White House is slightly more coherent. But the fact that both parties are being royal by, I mean, would you have sat here a year ago and said he's going to be able to raise several hundred million dollars without holding a single funder?”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, in fact, I think you mentioned populism. I think populism is roiling both parties. I mean, think about Bernie Sanders. I mean, this is the first Democratic convention of any sorties ever attended. This is the first time he's ever run for office as a Democrat. Just show.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, we're driven by our donors, and we had a lot of donors in, and we had signals from the Romney campaign in twenty eleven and twelve that if he won the nomination, they hoped that we'd be ready. And we were ready. And we'd have no similar signals this time around from Donald Trump. So we've got plenty of say grace over on the Senate, and I'm glad we, you know, we spent a year preparing for 2012 to be in a place to play in the presidential race. We had no similar preparation period this time.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's a sentiment rather than the specifics. But yeah, look, we were free traders. And I remain a free trader, but we were also tough about it. Remember, we got a lot of criticism by some for in 2002 under section 301 bringing tariff actions against the Chinese and slapping tariffs on rolled steel. So you got to, you know, I understand the politics of trade are never easy. Let's talk about TPP. No, no.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. So I think it wasn't the specifics. It was a tone. They looked at what the current administration had done, the executive order, they looked at the border, and they said, we need to have somebody grab control of the border, and he's the strong guy who promises to do it. I think it was less than the, in fact, I talked to a lot of ordinary Trump voters, and I say to them, do you think, particularly in Texas, do you think he'll really build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it? And they said, no, no, no, no. But he's going to get control of the border.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think it largely coheres. First of all, let me just say on the immigration, I've got a nuanced view on this. Yeah, he says build a wall and make Mexico pay for it and deport them all. But he also said we'll have a door, a beautiful door in that beautiful wall to let them ride back in. What's interesting to me is with a few exceptions, Mississippi and Alabama, I think are the only exceptions. The rest of the exit polls show the majority by almost two to one margin of Republicans in the primary said. Um, Let's find a way to provide legal status for those who are here.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If there had not been, if there had not been a censor that he had WMD, then I don't think the president would have sought the authorization of use of force. We would have found other ways to constrain him.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your family got money from him. And he was actively keeping these elements allowing these elements in a totalitarian country. He was allowing al-Qaeda and these others in.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. But it would have brought up, first of all, our concern was these programs and the intelligence pointed to an active programs. We were worried about his record of support for terrorism. This was a guy who was, if you were a suicide bomber,”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here's a guy who thumbed his nose at fourteen resolutions in the United Nations saying live up to the terms of your surrender agreement and make a full accounting, and he hadn't. Here was a guy who was undermining the oil for food program literally taking tens of millions of dollars out of it in order to keep together the dual use facilities and the technicians. What would have happened and he fully had an intention to restart these programs and he was convinced that the West was losing interest, the UN was losing authority, and that he would be able to reconstitute these programs. And what happens if that had all happened after four or five or six years and these programs have been restarted and we had this madman in control of Iraq? So history is what it is. And you can go back and sort of what you just said,”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know because look, here's the imponderables. We knew what we knew. and it turned out to be wrong, but let me just put it another way. Let's assume that the intelligence said he doesn't have active programs. He has an interest in them, but he doesn't have active programs. It's got dual use facilities, which he had, and he's got these engineers and technicians and scientists that he's got on the payroll, but he has no active programs. So don't go in.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that will be repeated in the New York Times making it look like a moron. And I'm okay at campaigns. I'm really not good at internacy in warfare. And Bush said, don't worry, trust me. He said, I saw what it did to my dad's administration. I saw what it did to Reagan. And it'll be different. And it was. I mean, we had one of the great things about going to the White House and one of the reasons I stayed nearly seven years was I had great colleagues. And you could have significant disagreements with them, but you'd walk away sometimes convinced, sometimes unconvinced, but always with enormous amount of respect for their abilities.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because, you know, I think you probably heard the same things. People said, oh, greatest job you'll ever have and the worst. Big egos, people will be knifing in the back. There'll be ugly stories. You'll say something in a meeting.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he also, I almost didn't go to Washington, which was sort of odd because he told me to get rid of my business, and I had. I'd sold my business to be involved in the presidential campaign. And when we won, he said, isn't it great we're going to Washington? We're going to be in the White House. And I said, I'm not certain I want to go.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're doing great. You're doing great. Everything. I'd have some member of Congress in my office pound on the table saying, you guys are a bunch of morons and you're doing X and you should be doing Y. And by God, if the president knew that, and I'd say, well, great. He's got a little time on a schedule. Why don't we walk in and say hello? And walk in, hey, Mr. Brothers, how are you doing? Barney's looking great. Laura's looking fantastic, Mr. President. How's your golf game? I mean, you know, it's like that kind of stuff.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People to come in and say, You're not looking so pretty. And that, as you know, is really important in a White House. It's easy to isolate. That office has such power of presence that it causes a lot of people.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, first of all, this is not objective. I mean, I'm not objective about him. Yeah, no, obviously. But on the other hand, I've seen him up close. And first of all, I love it. People sort of say that village idiot from Midland, that was a common criticism. This guy was a Yale history major and a Harvard MBA. He's really smart. As long as I've known him, there's been a book on the night table and an interesting conversation about something available. I mean, he is really smart, and it was great working for somebody who was really smart. It's also great working for somebody who knew he wasn't the smartest person in the room and didn't want to be. He wanted to get every smart person around him. He created this ability.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“who were part of the fabric of communities. Yeah, and who are at the risk of being, you know, of having their wages stolen because you're sitting there, you're undocumented, and somebody mistreats you in a work environment. What kind of recourse do you have? I'm going to surface and say, oh, incidentally, I've been here illegally for 10 years. And he's not paying me a fair wage. I mean, we had that kind of, and we wanted to resolve it and resolve it in a fair way and in a way that would be sustainable over a long time. A key element of it is you have to have a guest worker program. You have to allow people to be able to come here temporarily to work and then go home. Otherwise, and to be able to circulate.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“began a concept called family reunification, which is the heart of it sounds pretty good. Let's keep families together, but what it meant, what it evolved into is that if you had a distant cousin who got here from Addis Ababa, you claimed a relationship with him and put your name in a lottery and then we drew seventy thousand people a year by lottery and it wasn't your brother, it wasn't your mother, it wasn't your father, it was your distant cousin. And then we made no distinguishing between the kinds of people that we wanted to come to the country. If you had a degree or something. So, I mean, the system was whole with broken remote. And all over Texas.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Reform. Why? Well, first of all, we're a border state and we got a lot of, you know, we got a healthy culture that has got a lot of Latino contributions to it. And we understand that we need to have a secure border, but we had a broken system. The system had been broken for years. We had catch and release people coming here illegally being arrested and then being released on their own recognizance given a hearing date and never showing up that just sort of bred a belief that there was not a lack of respect for law. We had people who would come here illegally and had then worked and found themselves a part of our culture, our economy, our society, but their status was up in the air. We have a system also that was broken. John Kennedy”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had run for Congress in 1978, been defeated, had been talked about running in 1990, thought it was inappropriate to run since his father was president, thought that that would sort of draw him in, put him in an awkward place. Ironically enough, 41s defeat in 92 sort of freed Bush to think about running for governor. 1993, he started thinking about running for governor of Texas against Ann Richards, who was enormously popular. He sort of demonstrated enough strength that it discouraged everybody from running, everybody else from running, so he had a clear primary minor candidate in the primary.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“During the run-up. During the 1978 elections in 77 and 78, I mean, I was it. I was traveling with him. And now suddenly I was going to be sort of, you know, steps removed and someplace in the bureaucracy. But the main thing was personal. My wife and I were talking about starting a family. It just didn't seem to try and do that in the middle of a presidential campaign.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I ran the run up by the time of the race itself I was working for Clemets in Austin Bush it, you know, one of the things was Bush said Jimmy Baker said, look, you work in the campaign and then we'll go to Washington. I didn't want to go to Washington. I wanted to start a family. I wanted to be in Texas. And I didn't want to go back to Washington. There was just something that said that would be a bad move for me. And I enjoyed what I was doing. And also... Just didn't seem right. I don't know why. I mean, I just, I loved Bush and I still do. But just being involved in the presidential campaign, look, I traveled most of 18 months with him. I mean, it was him and me. And, you know, there's something during that.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But again, being in the right time in the right place at the right time. I mean, Texas was ripe for change, and we had visionary leaders like Bill Clements, John Tower, George H.W. Bush, and Phil Graham, who really, by their leadership, changed the state.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Clements that we'd had in one hundred and fourteen years, and it was then he was getting ready to run for re-election. He said I was deputy chief of staff, and he said, I want you to run my campaign, and if you do, you'll be the chief of staff, which would have sort of made my chops if I wanted to be a lobbyist, which is the last thing I wanted to be. And I said to him, when you were my age thirty, you started your own project. Your own 31 actually, you started your own business. I'd like to start my own and be direct mail, and I'd like you to be my first customer, and it had just enough spa. Lee Atwater asking for the boat that he said, Yeah. So I began my business in.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On the Allen Dix. What was it a melee? We handed that one out. It was directly targeted to bombs on the Bowery. Stupid thing but I'd sort of stumbled into it but I'd always been interested in numbers you mentioned precincts I always liked election returns and I had a book of election returns that you know was sort of like if you have a baseball almanac like sabber Right. I had the political almanac. But I arrived in Texas at a time when Texas was poised for change.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, they do. Well, and I like to write, and I like things that you can measure. And I had stumbled into doing some direct mail when I was working in politics in Virginia in 1976. Beyond the...”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Our chairman was James A. Baker III, a young Houston lawyer. Our finance chairman was Johnny Bush, our principal spokesman was George H. W. Bush, and for most of its eighteen month existence I was the staff. Eventually we brought on a guy to travel with Bush from September and October of 74 and Margaret Tuttweiler brought her on in the summer of 74 to be the summer of 78 to be the secretary and scheduler.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. It took me a couple years. I went down there and tried to figure out what to do, and I started out working in the legislature. We had 16 Republicans out of 150 in the Texas House. We had just had a terrific election in the Texas 31-member Texas Senate. We increased our numbers by 50% in one election. We'd gone from two to three. And so I went to work in the legislature. Then I ran Bush's George H.W. Bush's pre-presidential pact, the Fund for Limited Government, which”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“and Don had gone out and found the cheapest car he could on sale which was a purple gremlin with Levi Strauss interior. Now George W. Bush had taken a little bit of his money from working as a roughneck in the oil patch when he went to Harvard and bought himself a used red sports car that he drove around Harvard Yard, so I give him the keys to the purple gremlin and he is not impressed. He is not impressed. But that's when I met him too.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. In fact, about Thanksgiving of 1973. He was at Yale. Actually at Harvard Business School. And Tom Lias said to me, called me up and said, he's going to be coming down. He'll take a train down from Boston. He'll get to Union Station. He'll call down. He said, he was going to be, Tom was going to be on Capitol Hill. Chairman Bush was going to be down at the White House. So my job was to meet George W. Bush in the lobby and give him the keys to the family car. So Bush arrives. I'm down in the lobby. He walks in, he's wearing his Air National Guard flight jacket, cowboy boots, and exude more charisma than you could ever imagine, and here's the little nerd meeting him. And I hand him the keys to the family car. Now say a lot of things about the bushes, but he's not. Bush senior is not car proud. And he had a guy who's sort of a factum driver, you know, handyman named Rose.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yeah, what happened is he then went to China, you may remember he's considered for vice president and became the investor. The guy dip Yeah, exactly. And I stayed on at the committee and went to work first. I was working for the director of education training, then became the chief of staff for the co-chairman. But I'd met a young girl during all this who was an intern from Texas, and we eventually got married, and I was dead. I had to move to Texas. And that's what got me there.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For you with a Bush family. Well, yeah, two months later, this was August, and in early late September, early October, Bush's chief of staff, Tom Lass called. I was working on the hill when I was college chairman and going to school. Said Bush would like to offer you a job as his special assistant, so I went to work for George H.W. Bush, and for the next year were remarkable experience, really remarkable human being. I mean, this is a really fine person and a great teacher of character. And I got to work for him.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I got a question. Is it true you have a Boston whaler with 255 Evan Rudes on the back? On the Potomac? Bush says, well, yeah, I do, Lee. Can I bought it this weekend? He's met this guy 10 minutes before, received the Stern lecture about not screwing up. And his question is, can I borrow your buddy? He says, I've run that kind of boat before, and I know how to operate it. And there's this really cute girl coming up from South Carolina named Sally, and I'd really impress her if I could take her out on the Potomac, and I'll return it full of gas. But had just enough Hood Spile Bush says, well, okay.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so I give Lee Atwater the job, the staff job, bring him to Washington, and we are summoned to meet the chairman of the Republican National Committee to get the lecture. You know, don't screw up, don't misspend your money, do what we tell you to do, don't make a scene, all that kind of stuff. And at the end of this fatherly lecture from... Obviously, President Bush now, President Bush 41 Atwater, who would get sort of agitated when he was nervous. He was agitated. He said, Mr. Chairman says, do you have any questions? Mr. Chairman, I don't know.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we had a convention. It was not much controversy because I had all the votes. But what happened is as Dolan dropped out and a guy decided to run and showed up with a bullet bullet.”
2016-09-19 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 80 - Karl Rove · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source