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Katherine Wu

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  1. “Definitely. And I am really sympathetic to both sides. I was just listening to another podcast about tribalism, which is why it's at the front of my mind, which is both sides want the same thing, which is for the betterment of humanity. And one side thinks that AI is going to make humanity worse, and one side thinks it's going to be made better.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “It is very tribal and it's something I've experienced covering it, which you know the side that's building it increasingly is saying, listen, we are building something that is going to transform the world. It is going to as one CEO put it. It could spread democracy. It could cure diseases, not just like diseases, but PTSD and anxiety is really nebulous things. They truly believe this and they are pushing hard on this narrative, whereas a whole other side is saying that this is all a scam and that they shouldn't be trusted. So both sides seem to be completely gnawing at each other.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. “Is Digital God chill? I think it is a motivating question for Silicon Valley right now. Really sums up a lot of things. And you have described this as tribalism. You've described it as religious. You've described it as ideological in the conversations we've had. At a high level, just explain what's going on here.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. “That's a great way to start. Do I think Digital God will be cool? What's the vibe check on digital god? I think, you know, are humans good and chill? It's just a philosophical debate at this point. I hope so. I don't think so.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. “I'm excited to talk to you about Digital God The race to either build it or spend money on building it, and whether Digital God will be cool. It feels like there's a lot of debate on whether digital God would be cool or not. Where do you come down?”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. “Launch of ChatGPT and a generative AI boom that's followed has kicked off a colossal tech arms race, an anthropic is as much in that game as anyone else. It's taken in billions of funding, mostly from Amazon, and it's built Claude, a chatbot and language model to rival OpenAI's GPT-4. And now Dario is writing long blog posts about spreading democracy with AI. So what's going on here? Why is the head of Anthropics suddenly talking so optimistically about AI when his company was previously known for being the safer slower alternative to the progress at all costs open AI team? Is this just more hype to court prospective investors or researchers? And if AGI really is just around the corner, how are we even measuring what it means for it to be safe? To break it all down, I brought on Verge Senior AI reporter Kylie Robison to discuss what it means, what's going on in the industry, and whether we can even trust all these AI CEOs to be telling us what they really think.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. “Healthcare, even to democracy and prosperity, to happiness. Digital God, baby. But while the visions are similar, the companies in many ways are openly opposed, anthropic is the original open AI defection story. Dario and a cohort of his fellow researchers left OpenAI in 2021 after growing concerned with the company's increasingly commercial direction and approach to safety, and they created anthropic to be a safer, slower AI company. And the emphasis really has been on safer, which has sometimes had a pretty dramatic effect on the company's reputation. Just last year, a major New York Times profile of Anthropic called it, quote, the white hot center of AI doomerism.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. “Welcome to Decoder. I'm Elapatel, editor in chief of the Virgin. Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today, we're going to try and figure out Digital God. I figure we've been doing Dakota long enough. Get after it. Can we build an artificial intelligence so powerful that changes the world and answers all our questions? You will not be surprised to know that the HI industry has decided the answer is yes. In September, OpenAI Sam Ottman published a blog post claiming we'll have superintelligent AI in just a few thousand days. And earlier this month, Dario Omode, the CEO of Anthropic, published a blog post laying out what he thinks such a system will be capable of when it does arrive, which he says could be as soon as twenty twenty six. That blog post is fourteen thousand words long. Dario has a lot of ideas. What's fascinating is that the vision Sam and Dario lay out in their posts are so similar. They both promise dramatic, super intelligent AI that will bring about massive improvements to work, to science.”

    2024-10-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · The AI arms race to build digital god · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT