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  1. Mixed up with Jim. I did not rate him, but I did know him, and he's a lovely man. But anyway, so Larry Kramer, which I That's a good question. Yes, I was. I was already really writing a lot. Yes, 100%. I think getting that break to go to the Washington Post was a big deal. And it was a big deal because you know how it elevates you when you go. Where did you start? You started out of like a small.

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  2. Sorry, I was getting mixed up with Jim Kramer. I did not frame him, but I do know him, and he's a lovely man. But anyway, so Larry Kramer, which I really thought was cool, said come in and talk to me about it. Now, if he hadn't done that, do you think you would have gotten into journalism anyway?

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  3. Yeah, they did. I did. I was mad at them for a piece on, if I'll date myself, Roberto Dabuizond. Do you remember him from Nicaragua, the awful killer of women and children in Nicaragua? He led the death squads. Oh, that's right. And so I thought it was irresponsible. They didn't do a good job covering him. So I was kind of pissed about.

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  4. Yes, we do, Kara Swisher. I admire you. I like you. I think you're really smart, really funny, and really good at what you do. So speaking of that, how did you get into this crazy business? I know you went to Georgetown. You started writing for your school newspaper. You could call the Washington. I did not write for myself.

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  5. I just feel like we're having lunch and just hanging out. You know, nobody knows this, but we like each other, Katie character, don't we? Yes, we do, Kara Swisher. I admire her.

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  7. For U.S. tech companies, but in the US, they roll over, everybody rolls over. And obviously our Twitter in chief, our troll-in-chief, Donald Trump, is using the medium to his own advantage. But when we get back, we got a break for a commercial, and then we get back. We're going to go real deep with you and me. All right. We're here with Katie Curic. She and I are doing a co podcast. And when we get back, we're going to talk about our careers. I have to ask you questions about Yahoo and more.

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  8. No, I don't think that there will be any regulation. There's always talk about it. And obviously I'm interviewing Corey Booker and others. The Democrats are suddenly, which were the friend of media, a friend of internet, are now turning on the Internet, which is really interesting. And so we'll see if the Democrats get in power, if there's more regulation. But so far, the U.S. and where most of this is taking place has been toothless. Europe, on the other hand, there's a woman named Marguerite Vestager, who's been very tough on all the big media companies in Europe. She's a she's a commissioner at the EU. I think it's for competition. I forget her long title, but she's did a great podcast and interview with her. She's really an interesting force, and she's the one that's levied all these fines on these companies and really has the teeth to really bother them in these countries. And I think the European Union and Europe has a very different point of view on privacy, on abuse, on all kinds of things that is problematic.

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  9. Right. Even as they ruin the business plans of every publisher, you know what I mean? So it's a really, they have to take, it's a different kind of media company, but they're a media company. But the minute they admit they're a media company, it means they have responsibility for what's on their platform. And there's lots of laws why they don't want that to happen too. They want to just say they're a benign platform, essentially.

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  10. Because it requires responsibility. That means they're responsible. The New York Times cares if it's wrong, right? Whatever people think of the New York Times or whatever liberal media or whatever. You know working at any of these institutions. We care when we're wrong. We say we're wrong. We correct and it matters. There's a great deal of heaviness to the responsibility.

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  11. She's great. She's great. But I mean, they're trying very hard because they know that these platforms are massive. I mean, I think it's a trillion hours a week or some, it's some enormous number that's being uploaded to YouTube and all these social media platforms. And so the ability of them to monitor it is enormous. Obviously people can't do it. It's not feasible for people to do. It's not scalable. And then secondly, the technology around AI and other machine learning in order to maybe control this better is still in its infancy and very problematic. And so they're trying to figure out how to maintain order, I guess. And at the same time, pretend they're not media companies. And so when I interview them, I do a lot of, well, are you immediate? No, we're not, we're, I think Susan was like, we're a technology platform whose end result is media or something. It was some really convoluted way. Why do you think there's...

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  12. Which is also had a lot of Well, I just had a long interview with Susan Wajiski at one of our events earlier this week, actually, who's the CEO of a very thoughtful person. I just had her on an MSNBC show. I really like her.

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  13. They don't want to take responsibility for the fact that their platform was used by a malevolent power to create discord in our country. And that doesn't seem to bother them as much as technically our ads weren't bought into here. The platforms were used and abused because, you know, it's sort of like, why would you rob a bank? That's where the money is. That's where the people are. And so these platforms. Facebook being the biggest one have been much abused by malevolent powers. Well, so what's going to happen?

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  14. Some of it is. Some of it is. But I think the overall issue is that they're technically saying these ads were not run until these ads were. They weren't talking about the content on the platform. It's so much larger and bigger than they're discussing. But technically, their ads were bought at various times. And so their whole premise around this is that these ads didn't sway the election. And everyone else is like, well, there's an indictment by Robert Mueller that shows how they used face primarily Facebook and Instagram to really invade the system and take advantage of the system. And I liken it too. I mean, if you think about it, what if Russia had bought all the advertisements on a network or had run the content of a network during a presidential election and swayed it? Right.

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  15. Yeah, they do. They sway the election, which is a knowable thing to know. Yes. Well, they wanted, you know, they just keep saying it and maybe they say it'll be so. It's like Trump, right? They just keep saying the crowds are bigger. The crowds are bigger. The crowds are bigger. I think one of the things is they're very, you know, they're very technical and mathematical people. And so they're being very accurate about certain things they're saying and focusing in on and missing the forest through the trees.

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  16. Yes, obviously, about Russia and about Well, you know, it's interesting. I was followed Twitter that carefully, but I had a debate with Facebook executives this weekend on Twitter. Oh, that must have been fun. I'm going to have to go back. They lost. It's gone. They lost. Yeah. No, here's what they did is they're very sensitive. First of all, they did a very slow roll about the uses of their platform by Russia in terms of initially last year, Mark Zuckerberg said there was no impact whatsoever. Well, they said that again.

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  17. Well, he's so creative. That's the issue. I think the people, so is Kevin Sistram, by the way, who runs Instagram. But I think it's hard. I think it's super hard to compete. I mean, the era of big tech companies now is really here. I was talking to someone the other day, a venture capitalist named Sarah Tavel, and she said it's really hard to do innovative companies anymore, and there will be innovative companies. It's not going to never stop. But the powerful companies, Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Amazon are just, it just creates a really difficult, and they're buying up companies and they're being innovative and iterative themselves. And so it makes it super hard for smaller companies to break in.

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  18. And he's got a big sense of where things are going, and they really do have an advantage in that. It's not a twitchy medium at all, even though I don't use it that much and I do know how to use it. But it's a different, it's a communications meeting a lot more like WeChat in China, if you ever use that one. I don't use WeChat. But Facebook had just decided to try to kill it. And so they tried something, I think it was called Poke or something like that, which is just an awful name for a medium based on the Polk's on Facebook essentially. And that didn't work and didn't catch on.

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  19. Yeah, I don't obsess on redesigns unless they're just truly awful, like a new Coke. You know what I mean? Something really doesn't work. And people get used to the way they're using these things. So I don't over index on that. That said, you know, they've got to be very careful because what happened is years ago, Facebook tried to copy, tried to buy Snapchat, first of all. Facebook is essentially their mortal, not their mortal enemy. Their killer, really. They're trying to kill off Snapchat. And they tried to buy Snapchat and he put it off. He's a really interesting and visionary entrepreneur, Evan Spiegel. I think every time I talk to him, I'm always fascinated. And I can't say that with everybody I talk to.

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  20. His sales They said about it. What's the latest on that? Yeah, my son texted me. He's like, nobody likes this redesign. I mean, I think these companies redesign continually. They're always shifting and changing. And, you know, Facebook had 21s that people didn't like. So I think they just have to go with the way they want to do it and then hope for the best.

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  21. I know that investors were a little heartened, but it seems like Instagram really took the wind out of his sails with Insta stories, which I'm totally obsessed with, which is actually a sickness, which we'll discuss later. But tell me what's going on with Snapchat. And I know they did a redesign and people were upset about it. What's the latest on that?

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  22. I think she's like a I'm going to make like a huge generalization, but I think people who use Snapchat and other that era, it's not the Facebook generation, it's sort of the Snapchat generation. They are much different in how they use social media. They're very careful and considered how they do it. They're less reactive. They're less Twitter twitchy. They don't use, they use these mediums very carefully. I have a son who's 15 and another who's 13. And they both much more careful about how they use it and present themselves and consume the medium. Well, let me ask you about...

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  23. It's so true. And Karen, you know, like my daughter Carrie is a senior in college, and she is so funny. She's like, hey, mom, there was a really good thing on the daily about North Korea. You need to listen to that. Did you listen? I heard this on NPR. And it's so interesting because Carrie will be listening to podcasts while she's brushing her teeth or washing her face in the morning. And I'm like, I'm so proud of her that she is so engaged. And it's with smart material.

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  24. Right. 100%. When I started my podcast, several people, this was years ago, I did it three or four years ago, three years ago, and several people who are experts were like, people won't listen for an hour. And I was like, well, I'm going to talk for an hour. Like, I just, our whole premise at Recode has always been substance.

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  25. And I have found that so inspiring. It's social media they're using, which is really interesting. They're using the tools that they're very good at. To do it. And then you can, but the thing is, you can put thoughtful things in these mediums. I mean, it's such a canard that you don't have to. Same thing with cable. Same thing with all of them. You do not have to make it as reductive as it is. I don't know. Yeah.

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  26. Yeah, and I think young people are going to want to return to that in a way. I've been very heartened to see all those kids in Parkland, Florida, Kara. I mean, I was just crushed and devastated for those families. I can barely even talk about it. And to see these young people, that Emma Gonzalez, who gave that speech at that rally, you know, and we call BS, I was just, I felt so proud of them because I talked to Mark Barden, who's a friend of mine whose son Daniel was killed at Sandy Hook last night. And we were saying, you know, second graders who survive a school shooting can't really use their voices. Their parents are so grief-stricken, understandably, of course, that as much as they try, it's hard. But these kids, they mobilized in a nanosecond. They're doing a march on Washington and in communities all across the country.

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  27. Yep, 100%. And so it just exhausts me. I think Cable has done more for ruining our democracy than almost anything like, so besides the Russians these days, I know, but you know what I mean? Like the whole, I do think Fox led it, like created the thing. But when they try to be, when they try to be more thoughtful, it's really helpful. I mean, I think you come from the era where there were thoughtful broadcasts that you put together every night.

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  28. You know, I think cable is so attractive in terms of watching it because it's so easy to watch that it's I try not to it just I think it deadens the soul I mean you know and Fox has perfected it the others have taken it and done their own versions of it well it's affirmation

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  29. It is so productive because I sometimes feel like nobody's talking about the big issues. They're all talking about sort of the latest tweet, but nobody's talking about, okay, what are the issues? What are the challenges of immigration reform? You know, what needs to be done specifically? What's keeping us from moving ahead? What are some legitimate complaints about illegal immigration? It has become so polarized that I think sometimes people really are not getting the information they need to make smart choices.

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  30. Well, one of the things is on MSNBC or want CNN, one of them, they always have a Trump person on it or someone who's anti. So you do get those points of view. Like they always like to make it into, I find it completely the whole thing reductive and it is ridiculous. It is so reductive.

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  31. Hannity and Lauren Ingro. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you went right to the belly of the beast there. I can't watch either. I mean, both of them are upsetting on some level in some way. I think Fox is more upsetting, but they definitely have a different point of view. Yeah, well, do you...

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  32. Right, right. Okay, good, good, good. Except for Fox. I've never worked for Fox No, what's so interesting though, Kara. The other night when I was in San Francisco, I decided I'm just going to check out Fox because I like to hear what different networks are talking about. I don't really watch that much television anymore, but I thought, you know, I just, I was lying in bed. I was sort of exhausted and I thought I'd turn it on. And you can see why the country is so divided because

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  33. Right Going to In television. Right, rather than being a single player, essentially. Right, right. So, can you just review, I promise you'll get to ask me questions. Okay, good, good, good. Everyone knows your career. You don't have to go into your long and storied career, but you were at all the networks. You work for all of them, which I think is astonishing. Except for Fox. I've never worked for Fox. There's a chance still. There's a chance still you can still do it. Do you see it happening now? No, what's so interesting?

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  34. You know, be media everywhere, if you will, by iterating content for different platforms and doing content that's suitable for various platforms. I mean, that NBC Olympics team, that is a massive machine. And, you know, I have to say it was great to have, the one thing I do miss about not being at a broadcast network is that Esprit de Corps, you know, that sense that everybody's kind of working together for I was going to say for the common good, which I don't know if you can actually say that in television, which is pretty damn cutthroat, but you feel like there's this kind of community, this sense of, you know, we are all kind of marching in step and rowing, you know, together and trying to make our network be the best. And so that was really fun.

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  35. Yeah, I mean, I've still tried to keep my, you know, hand in traditional linear television. I'm doing a six-hour series for National Geographic right now. I did a documentary about transgender issues for Nachio. So I've kind of tried to.

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  36. Because you were on a broadcast just recently. So you sort of back to the old big, big, you know, engine broadcast that just like power through. How did that feel? Because you've been really doing digital and much different kind of broadcasting. Yeah.

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  37. Given the fact that I'm a 61 year old woman, I actually have tried to embrace new technology and I've always tried to be a little forward thinking. And the one thing I am good at, Kara, is I think I have sort of the sixth sense of what is going on in the ether or the zeitgeist, and I try to adjust to it accordingly. Sometimes I'm a little ahead of the curve, honestly, but I've just tried to understand that the media landscape is changing dramatically people get their information, consume it in very different ways than they did when I was starting out in the business. And so I've just tried to be smart about it.

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  38. Right, yeah. Okay, explain this because you are on, so you're one of the few people. I want to go back a little bit. I know you have a million questions for me, but I want to go back in your career because you've been quite digital compared to most people of the anchor era.

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  39. I And I'm like, oh no. And then I lose sleep. But you do a lot of social media. But you do a ton. Like the other day, there was like soup. You were making soup on social media.

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  40. Otherwise, Oh my gosh, you know, it's so interesting in the age of social media, Kara, as you know. It's like everything you say gets, you know, people have a voice and they use it. And many times that's really good. And many times they, you know, it makes it difficult to be a public figure, as you well know.

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  41. But I think That assessment. Yeah, that's right. Otherwise, there's not even a slight chance to mess up at these Olympics anymore.

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  42. Because they all got many, many I heard from people from the Netherlands who were like, you're a moron, we don't skate on the canals. But I was trying to salute the rich tradition and why the Dutch are such incredible speed skaters. But I think I was sort of, you know how that you say you're five minutes ago, I was like a century ago when I made that assessment

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  43. I don't think it's safe to say it was misinterpreted, but it was probably a little impolitic. And what's sad about it is he's so smart and knowledgeable and incredibly culturally sensitive. So for this to happen was very disappointing, but it angered a lot of South Koreans because of the Japanese occupation. And I think he maybe was overly complimentary about the Japanese. And they were very, very, many people were very, very upset about it.

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  44. Yeah, well, it was sort of like riding a bike. It was actually really fun. You know, the thing about the opening ceremony, it's a whole mix. Obviously, there's some sports involved and you need to familiarize yourself with the various athletes, but it's really quite geopolitical and cultural as well. And you want to be knowledgeable about the host country. It's an opportunity for that country to really strut its stuff and sort of put itself on a world stage. We had a bit of controversy because our cultural expert made a comment about Japan, which I think was.

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  45. Which was my favorite Olympics of all because I love Australians. Oh, cool. And so, how did you like it? What was it like to be back in that Olympic anchor chair? I don't know.

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  46. So, Mike Tariko, who I think has done an incredible job, Karen. I don't know if you've been watching, is the new host of the Olympics, Bob Costas decided he'd had enough. And so I think because it was Mike's first rodeo, in a way, covering the Olympic Games, they asked if I would co-anchor the opening ceremony with him, which was really fun. I had done it three times before. I had done it for Salt Lake City, Torino, and Athens. No, not Torino, sorry. Salt Lake City, Athens, and shoot, where's the other one that I did?

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  47. Yeah, it is. And then I was going to open this door along with it. So, anyway, so we're going to go back and forth. Apparently, you have a lot of questions for me. I did. I do. I'm going to start with you, though. You just got back from the Olympics. I did. What was your job there? What did you do? You're on NBC. I was.

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  48. You should. You're very, I don't know. You're very famous. I was going to be Kara's corner with a K, but then no one liked it. That's pretty cool.

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  49. Kara. I can't. I know. You're like kind of jumpy with the jobs. Media technology and so much more. And then the discussion will be posted on both recode, decode and Katie's podcast, which has a great name. It's called Katie Curic. How original? I know. I don't name my podcast after. I know. I honestly.

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  50. Today, we're going to do a little something different. That person you found laughing in the background. I'm talking to Katie Currick, who has hosted shows Katie's Is This Right, NBC, ABC, CBS, and Yahoo. We're going to be discussing, and also NatGeo, we're going to be discussing our careers. I can't download it down.

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