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Kemi Badenoch

lines on the record: 59
first: 2024-10-22
most recent: 2024-10-22
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“This contest is not a general election, the policies will come with the party, it is about conviction, it is about character, people know who I am and what I stand for, and I think that when they're putting their X in the ballot paper, they will vote for the conviction politician.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am going into democracy and politics bit of it. But if you're going to have everybody having a say in how the country is run, or even how a party is run and the leader, it's never going to be straightforward. It's never going to be neat and in a perfect package. But that's fine, provided you have a fail safe. This is the engineer in me, that you will sometimes build things that don't work. When they don't work, how do you make sure that it fails safely, stops rather than blows up? And you shouldn't be worried about things not necessarily being that structured. And this is what I mean when I say let's start with principles and then the policy comes later. It doesn't look as tidy. We're going to do X, Y, Z, but that's because we can't predict the future. When I stood in 2019, we thought all we were going to be doing was Brexit. No one saw COVID coming. You need to know what kind of person you are picking to lead.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there's a Venn diagram of the far left and the far right where we hate Kemi. It's the thing that they have in common. And he thinks that I get a lot more attacks from people, whether it is black nationalists who we hate whiteness and so on to the ones who hate black people, whether it's just people whose politics are so different from mine. And he sees them all going after me. He worries about my safety. And when I do think about should I be doing this, it's because I don't want to put that pressure on him. It's quite tough.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, so there have been, well, you would have heard the comments about, oh, she spends too much time looking after her children. And he's thinking, I'm the one looking after the children. What are you talking about? Which, of course, he is. Yesterday night, he couldn't come to a reception with me because he had to look after the children and so on. So he also sees that I'm still doing other jobs. I'm still Shadow Housing Secretary. I wasn't planning a leadership campaign. I was being business secretary. My opponent resigned. He's had plenty of time to go everywhere. So when he sees people saying, okay, Kemi doesn't like turning up, he knows that I have been working where they can't see me. And he thinks I get an unfair criticism for that. And he finds that very frustrating that you're doing all this work. We don't see you. And yet you're still being criticized by people who hate you. But he also sees something which is an impact that politicians, families really have to deal with.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it helps that I met him in the party. So, this is what I tell people: that I'm married to the Conservative Party. I literally married my deputy chairman, and he's a former councillor as well. And he was on the candidates list. And one day he said to me, I think you're a lot better at this than I ever would be. And I think you should go for it. And I will support you all the way. So I don't do anything without discussing with him. And he probably is more frustrated than anyone else because he sees me being portrayed in a way that he simply doesn't recognize.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think that was just, not certainly not with the interviewer. I don't think Kate McCann was trying to misrepresent, but we were speaking at cross purposes. She asked me, should the government do more on maternity pay? I was focusing on should the government do more? Everyone knows my views on that. I think government's doing too much. She was focused on maternity pay. And we're speaking at cross purposes. People got one end of the stage. Yes, they did maternity pay is fine. It is not an area where anyone is disputing. Yes, of course, we would love people to have more, but let's lighten the load on businesses and then they can pay their staff more.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't mind being questioned. I actually love questions. What I do mind are lies. What I mind are inaccuracies. I get very frustrated when you're trying to say something and it's being misrepresented even as you're saying it always.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, I do speak my mind and I tell the truth because I think that there is so much of people not saying what they really think, not saying what the truth is.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, but nobody else. And this is politics. You can't please everybody all the time. I am not trying to please everybody all the time. You're trying to”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I actually see myself as seeking a lot of consensus You look at what happened with the Brexit regulations, where the ERG were demanding a bonfire of regulations. And I thought, actually, this is not going to get through Parliament. The Lords aren't letting it through. Where is the way through here? We'll get rid of 2,000 to 4,000, which I did. We'll end the supremacy of the ECJ, but we'll keep the ones we want. That's me seeking consensus. What tends to happen? Well, they were cross with it.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think the best way that I can describe that is if you look at when I was opposite Angela Arena at our first meeting, I'd never actually spoken to her before. Despite what people might think, she is someone who I quite like just as a persona. She's obviously got very, very different politics from me. We're all trying to deliver a better country. I think their way is completely the wrong way and will likely end in disaster. But everybody wants more GPs. Everybody wants more homes and so on. It is how you do it that makes the difference, how I will be leader will be constructively opposing, but where we think that they're getting things wrong, pointing that out, bringing in some humor, bringing in some lightheartedness. I think that we've been very gloomy. We're not the gloomy party. We are actually quite optimistic and fun party. And I want to bring that out.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yes, but I think that this is an important principle, that we need the party to come together afterwards. And that is why I'm not criticizing him personally. I have disagreements with policy and I've set out why. I think his way might not be the right way.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, what I'm trying to avoid is setting out a whole bunch of solutions right now when we have got two, three years to work on it. So let's talk about you then. But just before you finish, people say, oh, well, we don't know what you're going to do. I have said that we are going to set up, just like David Cameron did, and just like Margaret Thatcher did, policy commissions where we're going to pick each of these issues through. We're going to have an internal debate within the party. And then we're going to come to a conclusion and unite behind it. What I'm not doing is what my opponent has done and said, I have these ideas and people are going to need to sign up to them if they go into the shadow cabinet. I don't think that you can get a party together that way. Politics is not like other businesses. It is something that requires consensus. You can't sack the people who are there. They're still going to be there. So you need to bring people together. And I am being very careful to avoid the mistakes that we made in the past of saying,”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we are a country that believes in freedom of the individual and people should be allowed to wear what they like. My question would be, is this person wearing a burqa because they want to wear a burqa or because they are living in a siloed ghetto within our society that nobody looks at, nobody cares about where she is being made to wear it? And if so, we should be going in and we should be making sure that people who live in those places have the same rights as everybody else. When we allow separate cultures to exist, then we end up with things like the grooming gang scandal, with a lot of people feeling uncomfortable about going into a place and saying this is wrong. Tell me if I'm being unfair, but again, I know what... Yes.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think this is a very interesting question. I think that it depends on what people call religious freedoms. For some, it is simply the ability to practice their religion. What about wearing a burqa in the public space? But for others, if I may, for others, it is about imposing their religious values on other people. I do not think that that's where we should be going.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People from China are they integrating or are we creating separate ghettos? That also matters. A lot of people who have come from Bangladesh have integrated successfully, many who have come from there have not. I could probably say the same thing about other countries like Nigeria, like Pakistan. What makes those who are successful successful? What makes those who are unsuccessful, unsuccessful? We need to ask those questions. But it does matter because if we just act as if everything is the same and we can't possibly judge, I think that this is how liberalism gets hacked. At what point you decide who comes?”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I wouldn't start with these people are predominantly Muslim. You look at the record of people who are here first. Who is most successful? What are they doing that makes them successful and then start from there rather than, oh, well, these are the Muslim countries, these are not the Muslim countries.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that we should be getting to a point where we can say we're happy to take more from countries A, B and C and countries X, Y and Z, we're going to have stricter rules on them and not have a completely agnostic view on countries.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this is one of the things that government has not done. We need to think about this. So when I was putting out our response to the, do you remember the Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities? And we had a response on what government wants to do. One of the things which I commissioned, and it's probably been stopped now by Labour, was to look at the successful migrants and the ones who are unsuccessful. We act as if everybody who comes into the country is equal. But what are people, you know, where they're coming from? What do they do when they arrive here? What skills they bring, the level of integration that they have, whether they're refugees or economic migrants, all of this plays a part. We do need to look at that and then base policy on what is most successful.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, and it was about should we set a cap, which I do think that we should. Let's work out what that cap should be. If you say we should only have 10,000 people come into the country nets, if 100,000 people who love British culture leave and 110,000 people who don't like British culture come in, you've got your 10,000, but things are worse than they were before. That's why the culture matters more. Who is coming into our country? What do they want to do here? Do they love it? Do they want it to succeed?”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, because I understand what their lives are like. And if the rule we're putting out is that if you are not of this class, you cannot understand them, then I think we are going towards a very polarized society. It is not about what you are specifically, but whether you can empathize with the lives of others. And that is something that I can do, not just because I understand what life is like, but because I've lived it. And because it's not just about my life. There are other members of my family who aren't as privileged as I am. I have family members who have lots of different circumstances from mine. And I understand that. I know how hard things can be.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I think is that people, a lot of people in the Commentary Act classes do not understand downward social mobility. And they think that where you are is what you are and that's that and people don't move between them. But my understanding of class as it is today is that it is different from what it was during Downton Abbey. People actually do move in between them. And given the level of migration that we've had into the country, the old class system doesn't work and people like me don't fit into it. How many people have you met who are doctors in their country who are driving cabs here, for example? What class are they? And if you're trying to shoehorn people into an outdated class system, you're going to run into trouble.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, a quarter pound of a cheese with fries and a coconut. And I had it so much that I can't look at the burgers again, but I can still look at the McMuffins. So that's why I'm laughing.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Other brands are available. Other brands may be available. You're a sausage egg, McFuffin Sonic Girl. I will still eat breakfasts at McDonald's. I cannot eat the burgers anymore because I did when I was at college, I ate it every day twice a day.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You come from I've always lived a wealthy life. In fact, I lived a very poor life for some time, not having enough money, not even enough to get on the bus, having to look after myself from the age of 16, and often sending money back to my parents. So that made a difference, sent money to my siblings, for example.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I do because they often come up to me on the street and tell me that they do almost every taxi driver that has driven me has said we like what you say and how you say it.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look at what I did when I was business secretary. I was the one who well, what is if you have a target and you can't meet it, it's not real. Just putting something in law doesn't make it real. Got it. Look at what I did as business secretary, Nick. I argued that we needed to push the ZEV mandate to 2035. The car companies told me, well, we can do this, but you're going to have to give our subsidies. Have you got the money? I said, no, we haven't. They said, push it back out. We keep going back and forth with this. I want us to deliver stuff that works. Let's have a policy that brings energy security, that regenerates cities, that is not just about carbon emissions. Now, this matters.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That you want to consider? Yes, but if it is the case, so I'm an engineer, if this is what you want to do, if you bring me your project and say this is what we want to do, you have to ask the questions, are you sure this is what you mean? You ask your clients, are you sure you're not trying to do something else? What we want to do is make sure that we have a planet that we can give to the next generation. And we don't just allow things to get messed up on our watch. I'm fully behind that. I think that our net zero strategy should focus more on nature. It shouldn't impose too much on farmers. We need to make sure that some of the people who are helping us deliver it. Under your leadership, if you...”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Remember what I have said. That is net zero a solution or is it a slogan? That's where I want us to start from. And I am not sure that we have properly thought that through. Now it is the case. I think what you're saying is this.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All parties. To go for nitzick. The legislation is there, but is it working? We are responsible for 1% of global emissions. If we go down that path, is it a global thing? It's not just the UK. We can reduce the emissions down to zero and the emissions worldwide don't go down.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what I'm saying is that climate change is a serious issue that needs work. But what strategy should we pick? We could pick an adaptation strategy, that this is going to happen, how do we build lives that will work within that? We could build, we've chosen a strategy, which is to reduce carbon emissions. There is no guarantee that that will work. I want to see something, if we are going down that path, something that has other benefits. So energy security.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said, Why are we doing this? That lots of school children will be very happy, but where is the plan? And the minister at the dispatch box dismissed me. I was one of only two people. The other was a labour person who questioned it. When you become a minister, you have to take on board the government's agenda. It's not about your impersonal.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, when you are a government minister, you have to take collective responsibility. If you actually look at the very first thing I said on net zero in Parliament, have you got that there in your papers, Nick? See, you haven't got that. Almost everything, but not that.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so let's use net zero as an example. I would have liked in net zero plan that was less reliant on state subsidy and less reliance on government direction. That would have allowed the private sector to come in and deliver, I think, a strategy to reducing carbon emissions that would have been more sustainable. Instead, government got involved. Instead, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, we're going to create green jobs. But are those jobs actually productive? A job, you can pay somebody to break windows and another person to repair the windows. Those are two jobs you've created. No productivity whatsoever. That's what I'm talking about. And we don't have conversations like that enough.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's not true. That's not true. A lot of people thought all it needed was more money. And we put a lot more money into it. We put on the side of a bus. We're going to put £350 million more a week. We actually put in about twice as much. So not everybody thinks it's reform. Many people think it's just money. You look at the pay disputes that have been taking place. What kind of reform is where the real question is? Another example is, you know, I talked about the types of jobs that people do. Productivity in this country is coming right down. Why is that? Private sector productivity doing okay, public sector productivity doing terribly. We need to look at that. We need to look at what the jobs people are doing and are they actually creating wealth.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's true. But I think that we have a culture here that has got used to that. And in terms of what needs fixing, I am not certain, I might be wrong, but I'm not certain that that is where the problem is. When I speak to dentists in particular, they would like people to pay for misappointments, not pay for appointments, that the people who don't turn up create even more problems than the number of people who are turning up and having service-free at the point of care. This is what I would like us to look at. And it's one of the reasons why I'm saying I'm not starting with policy because my personal opinions alone are not what's going to fix the challenge.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In principle, no, because it works for those other countries. We have a different system here. I think free at the point of service free at the point of care is important. But that doesn't mean.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there are two ways that I look at this. The first is if you look after the micro, sometimes the macro looks after itself, the cumulative impact of all of those little things, some of which I talked about for regulators, smoking pub gardens, et cetera, the cumulative impact of a lot of little things actually does add up to a lot. But there's something else that's changing, and that is the culture of work and the type of work that people are choosing to go into. That needs addressing as well. And I do think that we need a deep national conversation about how we rewire ourselves for an aging society. It impacts everything. NHS, for example. NHS was built for a young working population mostly, homogenous. Now it is dealing with a complex, diverse aging population. It doesn't work anymore. We need to talk about reform and not the kind of reform which we proposed in 2012.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was all too much, too much. It was, for me, the biggest thing I hated was the fixed penalty notices, that we were creating new criminal behavior on what was everyday activity granted in exceptional circumstances. If we didn't, if Boris did not bring in those fixed penalty notices, he would not have had the partygate scandal, certainly not to the extent that it was, because he then got caught in a trap that he had set for himself. And I think this is what happens when conservatives stray away from our principles. There was a personal responsibility principle. There's a freedom principle, which we believe in. When we stray away from them, I think we end up running into trouble.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I thought that we were trying to, you know, the King Canute sort of situation. I thought that we were trying to do too much, that this was where government was overstretching itself. And we weren't trusting people enough. I did quite a lot as a qualities minister trying to get information into certain communities. You might remember the...”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But there is uncertainty sometimes. I think we should have had something more akin to a COVID bond to deal with the amount of debt there. But the debt is too high. Debt is the second biggest thing we're spending money on. We've got to fix that.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't apologize that we spent a lot during COVID. I do apologize for what we did with the money supply. I think we just overran it to the point where it made inflation worse than it needed to be. There was inflation everywhere, but I think ours was a bit more acute. Everybody understands what was happening during COVID. This was a very significant event in all our lives, once in a generation. And, you know, when you were asking me about examples of what Nigeria has taught me, my father was still alive during COVID. A lot of his friends died at the time. He was a doctor. They were checking what was going on with people. They were catching it. So I knew the COVID was killing people. They didn't have an NHS there and all of the resources that we had here. So I think we probably overdid it in terms of the length of lockdown. I got very fed up with it, was asking, you know, let's stop this.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All this money, nothing's going well. Is that really something that we need, for example, to the big stuff on the very intense regulatory environment where a lot of the regulations are put in place because something must be done, this is something let's do it, rather than we know this will work and we'll make things better.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because the state simply cannot, as much as we would love it to do so. But government is doing more now than it ever used to, and people are still complaining. That is because government works well when it does a few things that only government can do brilliantly and gives people personal responsibility. That is another of my principles. When government's trying to do everything, who's smoking in a pub garden, let's get a football regulator, and so on and so forth, it actually starts to break down. The law of diminishing returns applies to everything, including government. It doesn't mean that government should provide fewer public services. A lot of what government is doing at the moment is not public services. It is activity. It's not action. From the micro, what is Sadiq Khan has a night star. He's had one for about eight years, nightlife has gotten worse. That's government. She's been paid.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If this was a general election, yes, it would be wrong to be standing with no policies. This is not a general election. And if you're going to solve a problem, you need to make sure that you know what the question you're being asked is. He thinks the question that is being asked is, what are the right policies to win a general election? I think the question being asked is why should we trust the Conservative Party? Trust is an issue. So we have two different diagnoses and he is writing a new manifesto. And if that's what members want, someone who's got more promises to make, that's fine. I will never make a promise unless I know how I am going to deliver it.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but he doesn't know where he's going to be standing in four years' time. So he uses the word disrespectful. I would not use a word like that about any of the candidates who have stood. Everyone's got their own campaign approach. Everyone's got their own way of doing things”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let me put it this way I have seen what happens when a leader says this is what we're doing, everybody shuts up and get behind me. I actually want everyone, and by that I mean not just MPs or peers, but the members to have a say on what a policy framework could look like. They know where my principles are. They know I made net zero skeptic. They know I believe in the importance of education. They know I believe in family. But let us design these policies together. We have time now. We don't need to rush out policies. We are not fighting a general election.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is when a system is broken. And I see us making similar decisions here. Let's do something because it looks good before we figured out how to do it. Let's make an announcement. And I don't want us doing that. We can't run government by announcement. That's why I'm not announcing policies. That is a continuation of what we did wrong before. Let's announce this. Let's announce that. But no idea how it works or how to make it happen.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I do think that that is a factor. I don't take what we have in this country for granted. I think this country is amazing. But I meet a lot of people who assume that things are good here because things are good here and they always will be. They don't realize just how much work and sacrifice was required in order to get that, how important institutions are, how important meritocracy is. You know, if you grow up in a place where people hire based on ethnicity, hire based on who's related to who, clanism, clanish behavior, nepotism, all of that creates problems. But the reason why I mean net zero skeptic, not a climate change skeptic, but I mean net zero skeptic is because I grew up somewhere where the lights didn't come on, where we ran out of fuel frequently, despite being an oil-producing country. There was often petrol scarcity.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I was busy business. And the spectator was a small business, it still is, where I ran a much smaller team. But what I am trying to show is that this is a team effort. For too long, we've relied on one person. Oh, this person can win if we get them, everybody likes them, let them win, and then it'll be fine. We've stopped asking ourselves, what are we winning for? And when we run into trouble, the lack of that first principle's thinking creates problems. I want to build a team that is united on principles. When you build a team that unites around a personality, when things go wrong, it all falls apart.”
2024-10-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Kemi Badenoch for Leader One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source