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Keoki Jackson

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first: 2019-08-19
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“Which is an area that we've invested in to try to stay ahead of these technological changes. And frankly, some of the threats that are out there, I believe that we're going to be out there in the solar system, that we're going to be defending and defending well against probably military threats that nobody has even thought about today. We are going to use these capabilities to have far greater knowledge of our own planet, the depths of the oceans, you know, all the way to the upper reaches of the atmosphere and everything out to the sun and to the edge of the solar system. So that's what I look forward to. I'm excited. I mean, just looking ahead in the next decade or so to the steps that I see ahead of us in that time.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know that there is an edge. We've been around for almost that entire time, right? The Lockheed Brothers and Glenn L. Martin starting their companies in the basement of a church and an old service station. We're very different companies today than we were back then, right? And that's because we've continuously reinvented ourselves over all of those decades. I think it's fair to say, I know this for sure, the world of the future, it's going to move faster. It's going to be more connected. It's going to be more autonomous. And it's going to be more complex than it is today. And so this is the world, you know, as a CTO Lockheed Martin that I think about, what are the technologies that we have to invest in, whether it's things like AI and autonomy, you can think about quantum computing.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I talked about some of these, like Maya and Orion, but we're in the middle of what we call smart sats and software-defined satellites that can essentially restructure and remap their purpose, their mission on orbit to give you almost unlimited flexibility for these satellites over their lifetimes. So those are just a couple of examples. But yeah, this is a great time to be in space.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here, and I tell people this is the most exciting time to be in the space business in my entire life. And it is this explosion of new capabilities that have been driven by things like the massive increase in computing power, things like the massive increase in comms capabilities, advanced and additive manufacturing are really bringing down the barriers to entry in this field and it's driving just incredible innovation. And it's happening at startups, but it's also happening at Lockheed Martin. You may not realize this, but Lockheed Martin, working with Stanford, actually built the first cubes that was launched here out of the US that was called QuakeSat. And we did that with stellar solutions. This was right around just after 2000, I guess. And so we've been in that from the very beginning.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, first of all, certainly Elon, I would say SpaceX and some of his other ventures are definitely competitive force in the space industry. And do we like competition? Yeah, we do. And we think we're very strong competitors. I think competition is what the US is founded on in a lot of ways and always coming up with a better way. I think it's really important to continue to have fresh eyes coming in, new innovation. I do think it's important to have level playing fields. And so you want to make sure that you're not giving different requirements to different players. But I tell people, you know, I spent a lot of time at places like MIT. I'm going to be at the MIT Beaverworks Summer Institute over the weekend.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For military and defensive systems, it's not quite a free market, right? We don't sell to people on the street. And that warrants a very close partnership between, I'd say, the customers and the people that design, build, and maintain these systems because of the very unique nature, the very difficult requirements, the very great importance on safety and operating the way they're intended every time. And so that does create, and it's frankly, it's one of Lockheed Martin's great strengths, is that we have this expertise built up over many years in partnership with our customers to be able to design and build these systems that meet these very Unique mission needs.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That where it may be needed is a critical phrase, of course. And I think it is worth pointing out, as you noted, that Lockheed Martin, we are in a number of commercial businesses from energy to space to commercial aircraft. And so I wouldn't neglect the importance of those parts of our business as well. I think the world is dynamic and there was a time, it doesn't seem that long ago to me was I was a graduate student here at MIT and we were talking about the piece dividend at the end of the Cold War. If you look at expenditure on military systems as a fraction of GDP, we're far below peak levels of the past. And to me, at least, it looks like a time where you're seeing global threats changing in a way. That would warrant relevant investments in defense of capabilities. The other thing I'd note”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, like I said, we're privileged to work on some very challenging problems for very critical customers here in the US and with our allies abroad as well.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of cyber weaponry. And if you think about the possibilities of using cyber capabilities or an adversary attacking the US to take out things like critical infrastructure, electrical grids, water systems, those are scenarios that are strategic in nature to the survival of a nation as well. So that is the kind of world that we live in today. Know part of my hope on this is one that we can also develop technical or technological systems perhaps enabled by AI and autonomy that will allow us to contain and to fight back against these kinds of new threats that were not conceived when we first developed our strategic deterrence.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think, you know, from my perspective, it's very important to maintain a strategic deterrent. You have to have systems that you will know you know will work when they're required to work. You know that they have to be adaptable to a variety of different scenarios in today's world. And so that's what this recapitalization of systems that were built over previous decades, making sure that they are appropriate, not just for today, but for the decades to come. So the other thing I'd really like to note is strategic deterrence has a very different character today. You know, we used to think of weapons of mass destruction in terms of nuclear, chemical, biological. And today we have a cyber threat. We've seen examples of the use of”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Little bit of both, and so it's a complicated game theoretical kind of program. But ultimately, we are trying to prevent the use of any of these weapons. And the theory behind prevention is that even if an adversary uses a weapon against you, you have the capability to essentially strike back and do harm to them that's unacceptable. And so that will deter them from making use of these weapon systems. The deterrence calculus has changed, of course, with more nations now having these kinds of weapons.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just to give you an example, back then, you know, there were in the Cold War timeframe, just a handful of nations that had ballistic missile capability by last count. And this is a few years old. There's over 70 nations today that have that. Similar kinds of numbers in terms of space-based capabilities. So, the world has gotten more complex and more challenging, and the threats, I think, have proliferated in ways that we didn't expect. The nation today is in the middle of a recapitalization of our strategic deterrent. I look at that as one of the most important things that our nation can do.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's, you know, this is one of those hard, hard questions. And I should note that Lockheed Martin is both proud and privileged to play a part in multiple legs of our nuclear and strategic deterrent systems like the Trident submarine launch ballistic missiles. Know you talk about how. Is there still a possibility that the human race could destroy itself? I'd say that possibility is real. But interestingly, Some sense, I think, the strategic deterrence Have prevented the kinds of incredibly destructive world wars that we saw in the first half of the 20th century. Now, things have gotten more complicated since that time and since the Cold War.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Respect others, perform with excellence. And now, how do we tie that back to the ethical principles that will govern how AI is used within Lockheed Martin? And we actually have a world, so you might not know this, but there are actually awards for ethics programs, Lockheed Martin's had a recognized ethics program for many years, and this is one of the things that our ethics team is working with our engineering team on.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I mean, AI is an incredible enabler, say, within the walls of Lockheed Martin in terms of improving production efficiency, doing helping engineers doing generative design, improving logistics, driving down energy costs. I mean, there are so many applications. But we're also very interested in some of the elements of ethical application within Lockheed Martin. So we need to make sure that things like privacy is taken care of, that we do everything we can to drive out bias in AI-enabled kinds of systems, that we make sure that humans are involved in decisions that we're not just delegating accountability to algorithms. And so for us, it all comes back. I talked about culture before and it comes back to sort of the Lockheed Martin culture and our core values. And so it's pretty simple for us to do what's right.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Making sure that the systems have human machine interfaces that can show what state they're in and what kinds of decisions they're making, making sure that you've established doctrine and tactics and techniques and procedures for the use of these kinds of systems. And so, and by the way, I mean, none of this is easy, but I'm just trying to lay kind of the picture of how the US has said this is the way we're going to treat AI and autonomous systems, that it's not a free-for-all. And like there are rules of war and rules of engagement with other kinds of systems, think chemical weapons, biological weapons, we need to think about the same sorts of implications. And this is something that's really important for Lockheed Martin. I mean, obviously we are 100% complying with our customer and the policies and regulations.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In military and defense applications, that AI and autonomy are particularly well suited to. Now, the interesting question that you brought up is, okay, how do you make sure that stays within human control? So that was the context for now the policy. And so there is a DOD directive called 3000.09 because that's the way we name stuff in this world. And I'd say it's well worth reading. It's only a couple pages long, but it makes some key points. And it's really around making sure that there's human agency and control over use of semi-autonomous and autonomous weapon systems, making sure that these systems are tested, verified, and evaluated in realistic, real world type scenarios, making sure that the people are actually trained on how to use them.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it actually goes the other way too. So that's on the short time scale. So humans kind of work in one second, two seconds to eight hours. After eight hours, you get tired. You got to go to the bathroom, whatever the case might be. So there's this whole range of other things. Think about surveillance and guarding facilities. Think about moving material, logistics, sustainment, a lot of these, what they call dull, dirty, and dangerous things that you need to have sustained activity, but it's sort of beyond the length of time that a human can practically do as well. So there's this range of things that are critical.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so, if you can bring an autonomous or AI enabled capability that will enable the human to shrink, maybe you've heard the term the OODA loop. So this whole idea that a typical battlefield decision is characterized by observe, so information comes in, orient. How does that, what does that mean in the context? Decide, what do I do about it? And then act, take that action. If you can use these capabilities to compress that OODA loop to stay inside what your adversary is doing, that's an incredible powerful force on the battlefield.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let me give just a couple of hypotheticals. So people react sort of in the second time frame, right? You're photon hitting your eye to a movement is, you know, on the order of a few tenths of a second kinds of processing time. Roughly speaking, computers are operating in the nanosecond time scale, right? So just to bring home what that means, a nanosecond to a second is like a second to 32 years. So seconds on the battlefield in that sense literally are lifetimes.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In what we've seen is the deployment of some very, I'd say concerning new weapon systems, particularly with Russia and breaching some of the IRBM intermediate range ballistic missile treaties. That's been in the news a lot. The building of islands artificial islands in the South China Sea by the Chinese and then arming those islands, the annexation of Crimea by Russia. The North Korean threat has certainly not gone away. There's a lot going on in the Middle East with Iran in particular. And we see this global terrorism threat has not abated, right? So there are a lot of reasons to look for technology to assist with those problems, whether it's AI or other technologies like hypersonage, which we discussed. So now...”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't see it happening today, and in fact this is something from a policy perspective. It's obviously a very dynamic space, but the Department of Defense has put quite a bit of thought into that. And maybe before talking about the policy, I'll just talk about some of the why. And you alluded to it being a sort of a complicated and a little bit scary world out there. But there's some big things happening today. You hear a lot of talk now about a return to great powers competition, particularly around China and Russia with the US, but there are some other big players out there as well.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The oil rig. This is real economic, you know, these are dollars and cents kinds of advantages that we're bringing in the commercial world as well.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tasks, whether it's sort of autopilot kinds of tasks or more sophisticated path planning kinds of activities to be able to do things like, for example, land on an oil rig, you know, in the North Sea in bad weather 0, 0 conditions. And you can imagine, of course, there's a lot of military utility to capability like that. You could have an aircraft that you want to send out for a crewed mission, but then at night, if you want to use it to deliver supplies in an unmanned mode, that could be done as well. And so there's clear advantages there. But think about on the commercial side. You know, if you're an aircraft taken, you're going to fly out to this oil rig. And if you get out there and you can't land, then you got to bring all those people back, reschedule another flight, pay the overtime for the crew that you just brought back because they didn't get where they were going, pay for the overtime for the folks that are out there.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's gone into the terrain, get it out of there. And this is not something that we're just doing in the aircraft world. And I wanted to highlight we have a technology we call matrix, but this is developed at Sikorsky Innovations. The whole idea there is what we call optimal piloting. So not optional piloting or unpiloted, but optimal piloting. So an FAA certified system. So you have a high degree of confidence. It's generally pretty deterministic. So we know that it'll do in different situations, but effectively be able to fly a mission with two pilots, one pilot, no pilots. And you can think of it almost as like a dial of the level of autonomy that you want, but able, so it's running in the background at all times and able to pick up.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this is one of those cases where you'd like to not take action if you think the pilot's there. And it's almost like systems that try to detect if a driver is falling asleep on the road, right? With limited success. So, I mean, this is what I call the system of last resort, right? Where if the aircraft has determined that...”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Models of the aircraft's dynamics coupled with the terrain models to be able to predict when essentially the pilot is doing something that is going to take the aircraft into or the pilot's not doing something in this case, but it just gives you an example of how autonomy can be really a lifesaver in today's world.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And of course, that's bad if you happen to be flying low near the deck and earn obstacle or terrain environment. And so we developed a system in our aeronautics division called Auto GCAS, so autonomous ground collision avoidance system. And we built that into the F-16. It's actually saved seven aircraft, eight pilots already in the relatively short time it's been deployed. It was so successful that the Air Force said, hey, we need to have this in the F-35 right away. So we've actually done testing of that now on the F-35. And we've also integrated an autonomous air collision avoidance system. So think the air-to-air problem. So now it's the integrated collision avoidance system. But these are the kinds of capabilities. You know, I wouldn't call them AI. I mean, they're very sophisticated.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Given that you've up-leveled that pilot to be a mission manager, now they can control multiple other aircraft. They can come almost as extensions of your own aircraft flying alongside with you. So that's another example of how this has really come into fruition. And then I mentioned the landings, but think about just the implications for humans and flight safety. And this goes a little bit back to the discussion we were having about how do you continuously improve the level of safety through automation while working through the complexities that automation introduces. So one of the challenges that you have in high performance fighter aircraft is what's called G-Lock. So this is G-induced loss of consciousness. So you pull nine Gs, you're wearing a pressure suit. That's not enough to keep the blood going to your brain. You black out.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As an autonomous wingman, and we demonstrated all kinds of maneuvers and various mission scenarios with the autonomous F-16 being that so-called loyal or trusted wingman. And so those are the kinds of things that we've shown.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's just the control systems are such that you really have dialed out the variability that comes with all the environmental conditions. So, my point is to a certain extent, that world is here today. I think that we're going to see a day anytime soon when there are no humans in the cockpit. I don't believe that. But I do think we're going to see much more human-machine teaming and we're going to see that much more at the tactical edge. And we did a demo. You asked about what the Skunk Works is doing these days. And so this is something I can talk about. But we did a demo with the Air Force Research Laboratory. We called it Have Raider. And so using an F16”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It always gets the second wire. So we're wearing out the wire because it always hits that one. But that's the kind of autonomy that just makes these essentially up levels what the human is doing to more of that mission manager.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are huge layers, I guess, in levels of autonomy built into that aircraft so that the pilot is essentially more of a mission manager rather than doing the data that, you know, the second to second elements of flying the aircraft. So in some ways, it's the easiest aircraft in the world to fly. And kind of a funny story on that. So I don't know if you know how aircraft carrier landings work, but basically There's what's called a tailhook and it catches wires on the deck of the carrier and that's what brings the aircraft to a screeching halt. There's typically three of these wires. So if you miss the first, the second one, you catch the next one, right? And we got a little criticism. I don't know how true this story is, but we got a little criticism. The F-35 is so perfect.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, that's a world that to a certain extent we're in today. Now, these are remotely piloted aircraft, to be sure, but we have hundreds of thousands of flight hours a year now in remotely piloted aircraft. And then if you take the F-35.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Work so that mission piece is really important. The last thing I'll say is that, and this gets to some of these questions around advanced technologies. It's not, you know, they're not just airplanes and spacecraft anymore. For people who are excited about advanced software capabilities, about AI, about bringing machine learning. These are the things that we're doing to exponentially increase the mission capabilities that go on those platforms. And those are the kinds of things that I think are more and more visible to the public.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I'll tell you, I got a briefing one time from a major in the Air Force. And he said, I go by call sign GIMP. GPS is my passion. I love GPS, and he was involved in the operational test of the system. He said, I was out in Iraq, and I was on a helicopter, Blackhawk helicopter, and it was bringing back a sergeant and a handful of troops from a deployed location. And he said, my job is GPS. So I asked that sergeant and he's, you know, beaten down and kind of half asleep. And I said, what do you think about GPS? And he brightened up, his eyes lit up. And he said, well, GPS, that brings me and my troops home every day. I love GPS. And that's the kind of story where it's like, okay, I'm really making a difference here in the kind of...”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Our employees are also inspired by that sense of mission, and I'll just give you an example. I had the privilege to work and lead our GPS programs for some time. And that was a case where I actually worked on a program that touches billions of people every day. And so when I said, I worked on GPS, everybody knew what I was talking about, even though they didn't maybe appreciate the technical challenges that went into that.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a good question. I think. The public can see enough of including students who may be in grade school, high school, college today to understand the kinds of really hard problems that we work on. And I mean, look at the F-35, right? And obviously a lot of the detailed performance levels are sensitive and controlled. You know, we can talk about what an incredible aircraft this is. Supersonic, supercruise kind of a fighter, a stealth capabilities. It's a flying information system in the sky with data fusion, sensor fusion capabilities that have never been seen before. So these are the kinds of things that I believe, you know, these are the kinds of things that got me excited when I was a student. I think these still inspire students today. And say, I mean, you know, people are inspired by space, people are inspired by aircraft.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe I'd again, you got to think of these as ongoing capability development. So think back to the early days of missile defense. So, this would be in the 80s, the SD. And in that time frame, we proved, and Lockheed Martin proved that you could hit a bullet with a bullet, essentially, which is something that had never been done before, to take out an incoming ballistic missile. And so that's led to these incredible hit-to-kill kinds of capabilities, PAC-3. That's the Patriot Advance capability, Model 3 that Lockheed Martin builds, the Thad system that I talked about. So now hypersonics, you know, Different from ballistic systems, and so we got to take the next step in defensive capability.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“US and Allied capabilities and also basic claims are these could get around defensive systems that are out there today. And so there's a real sense of urgency. You hear it from folks like the Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, Dr. Mike Griffin, and others in the Department of Defense that hypersonics is something that's really important to the nation In terms of both parity but also defensive capabilities. And so that's something that we're pleased. It's something that Lockheed Martin's had a heritage in. We've invested R&D dollars on our side for many years. And we have a number of things going on with various U.S. government customers in that field today that we're very excited about. So I would anticipate we'll be hearing more about that in the future from our customers.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then hypersonic, so high supersonic speeds would be past Mach 5. And you got to remember Lockheed Martin and actually other companies have been involved in hypersonic development since the late 60s. You know, you think of everything from the X-15 to the space shuttle as examples of that. I think the difference now is if you look around the world, particularly the threat environment that we're in today, you're starting to see publicly folks like the Russians and the Chinese saying they have hypersonic weapons capability that could threaten”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Stick to what's in Ben Rich's book, but obviously the geometry of how radar gets reflected. And the kinds of materials that either reflect or absorb or kind of the couple of the critical elements there. And it's a cat and mouse game, right? I mean, radars get better, stealth capabilities get better, and so it's a really game of continuous improvement and innovation there. And I'll leave it at that.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Would you like to have an aircraft that has the radar cross section of this ball bearing? Probably one of the least expensive and most effective marketing campaigns in the history of the industry.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Works to do these incredible things. And we listed off a number that you brought up stealth. And I mean, this whole, I wish I could have seen Ben Rich with a ball bearing, you know, rolling it across the desk to a general officer and saying,”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Well, let me start, you know, on the skunk work saga. And you kind of alluded to it in the beginning. Skunk Works is as much an idea as a place. And so it's driven really by Kelly Johnson's 14 principles. And I'm not going to list all 14 of them off, but the idea, and this I'm sure will resonate with any engineer who's worked on a highly motivated small team before. The idea that if you can essentially have a small team of very capable people who want to work on really hard problems, you can do almost anything, especially if you kind of shield them from bureaucratic influences, if you create very tight relationships with your customers so that you have that team and shared vision with the customer. Those are the kinds of things that enable the skunk.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“These are the kinds of things that Lockheed Martin delivers. And there's a lot of stuff that goes with it. So think about the radar systems and the sensing systems that cue these, the command and control systems that decide how you pair a weapon against an incoming threat. And then all the human and machine interfaces to make sure that they can be operated successfully in very strenuous environments.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's a little bit of a different application. We've actually built a version called Aegis Ashore, which is now deployed in a couple of places around the world. So, that same technology, I mean, basically can be used to protect either an ocean-going fleet or a land-based activity. Another one, the FAD program. So Thad, this is the theater high altitude area defense. Is to protect relatively broad areas against sophisticated ballistic missile threats. And so now it's deployed with a lot of U.S. capabilities. Now we have international customers that are looking to buy that capability as well. And so these are systems that defend not just defend militaries and military capabilities, but defend population areas. We saw maybe the first public use of these back in the first Gulf War with the Patriot systems”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And keep going on the space front. But a couple other areas I'd like to put out. We're heavily engaged in building critical defensive systems. And so a couple that I'll mention, the Aegis Combat System. This is basically the integrated air and missile defense system for the US and Allied fleets. And so protects carrier strike groups, for example, from incoming ballistic missile threats, aircraft threats, cruise missile threats, and kind of go down the list.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Today, you can think of us in this space of solving mission problems. So obviously on the aircraft side, tactical aircraft, building the most advanced fighter aircraft that the world has ever seen, we're up to now several hundred of those delivered, building almost 100 a year, and of course working on the things that come after that. On the space side, we are engaged in pretty much every venue of space utilization and exploration you can imagine so I mentioned things like navigation and timing GPS, communication satellites, missile warning satellites. We've built commercial surveillance satellites. We've built commercial communication satellites. We do civil space. So everything from human exploration to the robotic exploration of the outer planets.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, and make sure it gets out and it gets back right That led ultimately to really the start of the space program in the US as well. So now take a step back to Lockheed Martin of today. And we are on the order of 105 years old now between Lockheed and Martin, the two big heritage companies. Of course, we're made up of a whole bunch of other companies that came in as well. General Dynamics, I kind of go down the list.”
2019-08-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Keoki Jackson: Lockheed Martin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source