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  1. “Stories or art can do, which is, and it is something we all have in common, I know that when I read something great, the first thing I want to do is share it. I know that when I hear a great song, the first thing I want to do is share it. If I hear a joke, the first thing I want to do is share it. I hope, it's the same with movies, and I hope that when you read Explorer's Guild, your first instinct will be, I need to share this. That really is what I hope, you know. And my advice out there for people who get so completely overwhelmed by Christmas, it's a great way to stuff your stocking, take the thinking out of things. You don't know what to get somebody. Get them the explorers. Let them go on their own journey.”

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  2. “One, obviously, whatever audience it is that it's out there supporting you likes the long form of communication. And I hope your audience understands that we like it too. The thing that's hard for us is to go on these night time television shows and come up with some small pat joke. And then you introduce your movie and then you're done. So this has been good for me. And I do want to return to the book. For those who have waded through this interview with us, this was something that I didn't know that was going to be in my life. And this book, which I hope you read, it turned out better than I thought it ever could. It was really something that I'm proud to be a part of. And I hope you not only get the book, but the book does something to you which I think all.”

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  3. “My 30 year old self. I'm going to say something. We talked about the conservative upbring I had, the idea that you were going to do this, this is how a man makes a living. My turning point was at 22 when I said I'm going to be an actor and I don't care what anybody else thinks. So I wish I could have got that advice earlier, but I had to actually give it to myself. So what would I give myself at 30? I think I would have stayed in more control of the projects that I lent my name to.”

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  4. “Yeah, enough. You know what? We don't need more experience. We need a work ethic that by the time you're done there, you're so tired you don't want to go back after one term or two terms. You're done after two. Experience is not helping us. It's clogging us up.”

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  5. “I just need one guy. That's just one guy. I don't want a bunch of partners. I need one guy who goes, I like this stuff and I got a ton of money. And we are going to remember this stuff. I'm going to do it in a really classy way.”

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  6. “There's somebody out there that burnin' to keep that story, which is our story alive. I have the place to put it, and along with it, I'll put these incredible statues, the story of the bison, these bronzes that are amazing. That's fictitious. Right there in actually Deadwood. So I need a partner now. I've done all the heavy lifting I can, but if somebody is in love with our history and has a way through money and love of the history to keep it alive, you come be my partner.”

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  7. “It's a very humble little information center. I had bigger ideas for it that it could be a hotel, that it could ultimately be a museum. If there's anyone out there entrepreneurial enough, I'm an entrepreneurial guy, but I've put about as much as I can. If anyone thinks there's something missing in this country, like where the first people went, especially on the plains, I have a place where we could make a great museum together. And I fear that I've long chased everybody away from this interview a long time ago. But if there's somebody out there.”

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  8. “Lincoln, I think, a lot about and Jefferson, you heard me mention him. I think a lot about, you know, I would have liked to have met Crazy Horse. I would have liked to have met Chief Joseph of the Nezpurse. I would have liked to have known How fucked up they must have felt about At the end, going, Jesus, we're just going to have to fight for our life. And we've been here for thousands of years. And who are you people that would make me? Make me run for my life and watch my brothers and sisters and my children die, who the fuck are you? This used to be the garden of Eden. What happened?”

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  9. “And it might have been just a step over get my son. No, I'm not going to wrestle here I kind of wanted that. I wanted to jump on it and save the day. Who wouldn't want to swing from rope to rope and robinhood? Who wouldn't want to do that? I had a stunt guy help me, but whenever I can, I do it.”

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  10. “So I like that part of it. I always think who wouldn't want to go after the bad guy yourself? Why do you just automatically give that up? You know, I heard Roger Moore, who I think is great, but used to say, oh no, that's too far. I don't do that.”

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  11. “Yeah, I've done most of it. I've always had stunt guys in my Really difficult things, but because it's important for me to put the cameras close to the action as possible, I've done most of my writing, but I have been covered by excellent stuntmen. I've had stuntmen make me look faster and make the jump look farther, but I have put myself in the middle of stampedes. I don't know why with no reins and going.”

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  12. “I wish I was more disciplined, you know, about wanting to work out because I need to. But I hate it. I hate thinking about the clothes you have to wear if you go to a gym. I hate the idea of picking up lead. It makes no sense to me. I don't want to run with headphones. I want to, if I'm going to run, I want to make sure I'm watching the news. I'm not disciplined about taking care of my body. I wish I could. But it's not, it just exercises just a drag, man.”

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  13. “I haven't made one since last November. Just taken a year in a mile right. We drive together, we did this morning. We drive them and we drop em off. I don't know why. You know, I look like a dorky dad in the seat and I get out and give him their backpacks and my wife's driving and it's like. I don't know how that looks, but it's how my life plays”

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  14. “And we got to be in the car at 10 to 8, or I got to sign this crummy little sheet that says why you're late. Our name is in it so much at their school. They all go to the same school. And, you know, there's tears before they get there sometimes because they're five, six, and seven. There's backpacks that are all over. My kids are just like me. They can't keep their shit together. It's everywhere. And baseballs and all that. It's just everywhere. It's just everywhere. And when you say, where's your sweater? They'll say it's in the car, which is a bullshit answer. But I hope people understand that my life is just as cluttered as theirs probably. But my wife and I both, if I'm not making a movie.”

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  15. “When do I go to bed I don't have a regular schedule when I go to bed, but when I wake up is pretty specific. The alarm starts going off and one, two, then the dog, three people end up in bed. There's five people in bed, dog, and now the cat coexists there too. It's really a problem. My kids are really hot, way too hot to be around.”

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  16. “Roller coasters and things falling apart Cody Island, there was three competing parks that were all as big as Disneyland Luna Park, and it was the place to be in the world. And so look this documentary up, Coney Island, narrated by David McCulloch. I was blown away by it”

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  17. “Yeah, it was called Coney Island. Narrated by McCullum, David McCullum, and it blew me away. It blew me away to finally understand that Coney Island was so much more than just roller coasters. It was the most popular place on the Earth at the turn of the century. It was bigger than Parrows. It was bigger than Chicago. And it was because all the inventors were going there. They were allowed to do things. The medical profession, which wouldn't allow this guy who said, hey, I think I know how to keep babies alive. You know, I can heat him my incubation. And they just ran him out on town. Coney Island said, do it here. And so he did. And it was the most popular exhibit. You could walk in and see these babies that were kept alive. The great Edison, all these guys were hanging around Coney Island. We think of it in terms of the warriors, like decrepit.”

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  18. “I don't think Stephen has limited himself. I think early on people tried to say, oh, we can only make this kind of story. This guy is really gifted, is really gifted filmmaker, and I think he has challenged almost all genres. He really has. From Sugarland Express to, you know, I think, you know, to minority report and to these different things, besides the obvious ones, you know, that really changed the way people look at film, you know, jaws and ET and close encounters were giant, giant movies. And I think that he has really bounced around. I think he's been incredibly successful.”

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  19. “The first person I think Stephen Spillberg's really successful. You know, I... And I think Thomas Jefferson was successful. I guess I'm not leaping to the giants of today. But as you drill down on that list, then you start to go to Bezos and you start to go to jobs and you go to Bill Gates. Really successful, really found their way. But I guess at first blush, I don't know. I just said Spielberg. I mean, here's a guy that's probably not so dominant in his personality that has been able to do everything he's wanted to do.”

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  20. “Internal interviews about our own process. So it's almost as long as the book now. You know, you see our drawings. We do time-lapse drawings. Oh, nice. So if you really want to see how this book came together.”

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  21. “I don't know. That's the beauty of the internet. You know what it is if you can find it out there. This is like a treasure hunt for everybody listening. But if you find it, you're going to see exactly how we start it. We have all our starting materials. Oh, you do. Very cool. And we did our own kind of...”

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  22. “And you had to earn your way. But I was always, you know, maybe this was the jock part of me, but I was always like, I wish there'd be more pictures. You know, because that always. Always let you really imagine the duel on the beach, you know, with what those guys had cutlasses and they were going to. And who was going to win? And there was something About that. I kind of wanted more of that. Reality was when you came to those pictures, often you just stopped.”

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  23. “I always remember the joy of when I have one of those books, Treasure Island. I could see in the middle of that book that there were pictures.”

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  24. “I just moved towards the things that interest me. And if I get really interested, if I'm not doing a movie and I'm really interested in Little League, I'm going to do Little League with my kids in the spring and I'll be really interested. I move towards the things and towards the people that interest me and story usually has a bit of an attachment to almost all of those things, the poetry of telling a story.”

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  25. “So there's something about trying to be true. The problem that we deal with, I think, in the world artistically is that everybody's got this little meter on their shoulder, something like go faster or somebody's like, you know, a pace. It's going too slow. When we decided that we were going to make a book, we weren't going to have anybody tell us how to do it other than how we felt about it. And we felt that this could become perhaps a classic in our own time.”

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  26. “You can actually put an age, okay, a 12-year-old, you know, a 12-year-old who's pretty, you know, really wants to get with it, who loves reading. But six-year-olds are going to become 12-year-olds. So when we were also doing the book, there was a notion of, well, can we simplify the language? I don't want to use the word dumb it down, but I don't know else to explain it. What do you mean? Simplify it. This is how we want to talk. Because when you think something's going to travel through time, people are going to find it. And they find it when they're appropriate. Look at when you make Bull Durham or you make 10 cups. There's R to it. Okay. So the 12-year-old can't see it. But he's going to see it.”

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  27. “Get this book for them because there hasn't, you know, where are these books? I mean, we're looking in our last century, in the century before, for our classics. Who's writing them for us now? That's what we wanted. That was our love of it. And so I brought, I guess, the love of that to the characters that I liked in this and where we wanted to go with them. But only John writes in this specific way. I can't write the way he writes. I can see my stories in there, but I can't see them as beautiful as how John has written them”

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  28. “Well, not improvised. Not improvising, but trying to break it down. It's John's voice, absolutely. And I think it's really appropriate that when you talk about the book and you look, it was really... Important that John's name stand alone up top there. That was very important to me. I had a lot to do with the cover versus what was on it versus what is, you know, what people wanted. You know, Rick Ross and I, we always wanted to be a part of something that could stand the test of time. When you talk about these books, Kipling, Jules Verne, Robert, Lucy Stevens, you know, I mean, Mark Twain, Conrad, the kind of books that have that heft that sit up on the shelf, that's what we wanted. Now, whether we got there or not is nearly as important as what it was we wanted to do. I liked the idea of taking something off the shelf that has a heft of this, actually having to blow the dust off it. And that's what this book is. This book is almost an heirloom for me, a book that who reads us, I'm going to pass this down to my little brother, my little sister.”

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  29. “There would be a level of point by point thing sometimes if I would have to write down everything that I'm thinking about what I was actually thinking about and that would go to him. And then sometimes out of that when we've come up, then we would really begin to rift because. Dealing with what was going to happen in four and five and actually then circle back to something else. So it was like that. Sometimes it's written down, sometimes it's on my feet.”

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  30. “What happened was it didn't work. And then we went on and we kind of, that was like, again, that was probably five years ago. And we stopped. And I think John felt that I was humiliated by all the no's, by executives. I wasn't. But I appreciated him. It's the only time I ever saw John get really mad. He goes, he goes, these people shouldn't be saying no to you. And I needed to look at him and think, well, who am I, John, other than a storyteller? They can say no. It is what it is. But I loved his defensiveness for me, you know, but we stayed the course. We went off and wrote a Western together. And John came back and said, I'm going to write the book because that's my background. And I said, go, man, go.”

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  31. “Yeah, well, John heard those versions and I heard the magic watch version, which is we can put them in because they exist in the world, but maybe not in our world in this particular moment. So we think our boys better off having a hole in his head than having a watch in his pocket.”

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  32. “It was really cool. We did animate it. Everything I saw about it, once we started working, I just picked up the momentum of loving it. And, you know, we talked earlier about some of my films that I haven't done the sequels to. I saw this as something that had innumerable stories. You know, it just was going to, it could be, it was big storytelling. It was big canvas. So I thought to myself, gravity's going to just fall right to our, everybody's going to come right to our door. This is what people are looking for. And so we did this. And I think John's, you know, alluding to the fact that, no, people didn't. They wanted to know, well, you know, who's the boy in it? And his little boy, and he go, could he have a magic watch make him fly because our boy doesn't have a magic watch or fly?”

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  33. “I can't always say it. I can't always articulate it. But you feel you're around somebody that has a different voice. It thinks in a different way as a wicked wit. And it was just, I believe the story was there underneath the stuttering.”

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  34. “He came in and kind of had this idea that I was, I couldn't get my arms around really what he was saying. There was a thing, you know, anybody has to hard sometimes on a cold meeting to get traction, and John was having trouble getting traction. But it turns out he was in his favor. The story he was talking about was pretty elaborate. But so it was like, how do you do that really, really quickly? And I couldn't get my arms around. I said, why don't we talk the following week? You come up to Santa Barbara. We won't be in the four seasons. We'll be in my backyard. I'll have to admit that the story was still a little bit unclear. I think John was still working it. Too, but I had but I had a bigger feeling about who this guy was. And I thought I want to be around this guy, John Barrett.”

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  35. “Well, it came together. It wasn't on my agenda to do this. As I go through my life, I'm always really open to meeting people. And since there was a writer and a couple of his friends wanted to meet me, and I was told that he was very, very talented, but they wanted to meet me at some point and talk about some story ideas that they might have had. I had a level of trust in the person that told me they were good and that kind of thing. And I like, you know, my mind's always open to things. So we met not with the idea that we were going to write a book. I was going to listen to what they had to say. And that person was John Baird. And we met at the four seasons, actually John's with us. I mean, you were nice enough to invite him in and let him be. Part of this”

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  36. “That movie was different than a lot of movies, in a sense. That was a journey movie. It wasn't a plot movie. It's like, how are we going to rob the bank? Well, you get your crew, you get your plan, and then something starts to go wrong with your plan. And, you know, you didn't know where the movie was going. And I think people were able to just go for the ride.”

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  37. “I mean, there were other mistakes. When I finally, when we kill the one Native American, the Pawnee in the finally in the river, they're chasing him down the river. It was just too perfect. I just thought there was this kind of thing where he realized he couldn't run anymore. They looked and then just descend on him. So I look at that and I think that was a mistake. I shouldn't have done that.”

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  38. “This is what's going to happen. And I go, you know, don't forget if there's a shooting and you're over here, you're going to have to be ducking your head. I need for you to be doing that. So it's like that. I think I compensated for how I learn with other people.”

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  39. “No, mostly in big action sequences where you got to be here, you got to be there. I wouldn't like a chalkboard in a sit around thing, but I would find that when I had to communicate with a lot of people.”

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  40. “You're kind of trying to your own way. I actually direct sometimes with a chalkboard, and that has a lot to do with my athletic background. Sometimes when I have really big scenes, I'll pull out a chalkboard and I'll look at somebody because a lot of times I'll be doing what you're doing, which is they're giving me some chin boogies like that. But what I realize is they're afraid. The actor is afraid and he's going like this. He's me at the chalkboard when I'm in the fourth grade. He's nodding, but he's not hearing me. So when I go out to do a really big explosive take and he's supposed to be somewhere and he's like over there and I go, hey, what happened? I was looking right at you and he's going. So a long time ago, I go, wait a second, maybe he's a visual guy. Maybe he's basically his head's bobbing up and down because he's saying, please don't look at me, please don't talk to me. So I found that that chalkboard helped a lot of people. They physically understood.”

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  41. “I think. I thought I had to make up my own shot list every day. So I'd be working late at night after a long day like how I would do the shots. And I don't, you know, I had Dean Simmar had this really world-class cinematographer. And I think I made a mistake worrying about that aspect of it, you know, because directing is kind of like, you know, unless you don't, you know, unless you watch a lot of porn, it's like you kind of, you don't really know how other people make love, right? You don't know how other people direct. I didn't know where that was going. I didn't know how other people directed. You know, I'd only been on a few movies. So I wasn't sure how I was supposed to direct, but I had my own idea about how. But it's like, so if you don't see anybody do it, how do you know if you're doing it right? You kind of like, yeah, maybe that was maybe you'll edit that out. How do you know?”

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  42. “Produced screenplay, and I was hard, not hard, but I knew when it was working in my mind and when I didn't think it was working, I knew we had to fix that. And it just came back to either you're going to do it or I'm going to do it. And I said, I think you'd be wise if you did it. Then you would always be able to say it's yours. And he did. And, you know, that's how that happened.”

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  43. “We got it right because I would look and I said, Well, look, you're either going to write it or I'm going to do it. I think you should do it because he, and you know, Mike never rewrote himself after that and he never had another produced screenplay. But”

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  44. “Well, I actually went out to three really important directors. I'm not going to use their names. I know that would be interesting, but they were the top of the heap guys. And all of them had things that they wouldn't do to the movie. Some would get rid of the opening Civil War sequence. Some thought it was just too long. Somebody thought that probably it shouldn't be a white girl, that that seemed like a cliche. And I said, well, it really wasn't on the frontier what people were traded. There was a lot of that going on. And so once I got past them, I thought to myself, you know, I think I should direct this. And I'll probably, you know, going back to our earlier in our discussion where you talked about were you ever afraid? I really had a good script. I knew I worked with Mike. In fact, Mike said, man, he didn't have a lot of fun working with me on the script. He said it was like having the clap because I made him rewrite himself.”

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  45. “Yeah, it was all written out in manuscript. It was about as thick as a phone book. But when you mashed it down, it was, you know, I don't know what it was, 200 pages. I'm not sure”

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  46. “And it just took me six months to read it. And it was dances and I was really proud. And I called him up. I said, I'm going to make this in the movie. I said, I don't know how I'm going to do it because I didn't have that kind of money. I said, but I'm going to do it. And you're going to write the screenplay. And I'm going to pay you more than you've ever been paid. I'm going to find out what the writer's guild is instead of working for $3,000 for all these goombas in town, writing low-budget films. I said, I'm going to find out. It was like, I don't know what it was, $27,000. And I went and figured out how to get $27,000 and paid Michael. I said, let's do this. And, you know, we made that movie about two years later, and Mike won the Oscar.”

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  47. “And so I'd send them down sleeping bags and Coleman stoves. I sent them some stuff. And he goes, did you read my thing? I go, no. One night I pick it up, about four months later, five months later, and I start reading and I read it all that night. It was dances with wolves. And I was really proud of him. I was really, really proud with him because when you live in this town, there's people always giving you things, giving you their last best work. This is my best work. And so you're honored to be able to read somebody's thing, but you're also in the position of having to turn around and tell them if you like it or not. And that can really take the air out of somebody. So unbelievably, Michael, without, I was right not to try to listen to any of his stuff. I didn't want to edit any of his stuff. I didn't want to influence it. I wanted him to go till he was done.”

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  48. “So I say, Mike, you're going to have to go finally. So, Mike goes and spends a little bit of time at another one of my friends for about three weeks, and now he's done. And he gives me this manuscript. And I said, he goes, I hope you read it. I go, I'm not sure I'm going to. I was pissed at this guy. But I'm also softie, right? I let him live with me. And I just didn't want anything to do with him for a while. He was so bugged me so much. And so he split. He went down to Bisbee, Arizona and worked at a Chinese restaurant, washing dishes at night, and then killing raccoons in a day at this ranch. And he would call me up and say, did you read my thing? I said, no, no. And this went on for about three weeks. Then I get a letter. He goes, I'm cold. And I said,”

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  49. “And so now I'm having to look at him have cereal in my house and everything in the morning and at night. And I got one spare bedroom of a house I bought. And my wife's even beginning to wonder about him. And she's saying to me after two months, hey, he's down there.”

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  50. “and there was scripts under his feet, and I kicked them, and they went dramatically sliding like a deck of cards out there. And now I let him down. And I just, I said, why don't you quit pretending this thing you want to be in you actually hate? I thought really our relationship was over there because I'd put my hands on him and that would be hard for me to come back from. But, you know, Michael three weeks later says to me, typical writer goes, I don't have any place to live. And so I said, well, all right, come live at our house. And every night I would come and he goes, I'm writing something. And he goes, you want to hear it? And I go, no.”

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