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  1. “I was losing patience with him and losing patience with him really putting down Hollywood and everything and putting this down. And somewhere along the line, I mean, I'm short changing this because I don't want to bore the audience, but he really crossed the line with me and said something about some people and about this. And I kind of was letting him know, Mike, maybe the writing's not good enough right now. I just get this. And then he said one more thing. And the next thing you know, I had my hands on him. And I had him up against the wall. He had really crossed the line with me. And basically what I said, I said, well, then quit. I said, quit pretending you want to be in Hollywood because everything you're writing is ending on page 120, which is code for screenplays about 120 pages. And I said, why don't you start writing things that mean something like a short story or a long story, something ends on 88 or 188 or 888? And quit trying to write these. And I literally had him off the ground.”

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  2. “People wanted to direct, people wanted to produce. And so we could all do what we wanted to do every night, which was act, and which was hear our own writing. And at one point, the big chill thing happened and I started to emerge. So I was the one person in the group that started to emerge and things started to go well for me. And so I was quickly dragging along my friends if I could get them interviews. And Michael was one of those. I got Michael eight or nine interviews that I could never get when I was struggling. And every one of them went south. Every one of them that I'd get a phone call, Michael insulted us. Michael told us we don't know what we're doing. You don't know good writing. And so those calls were getting very difficult for me because I was trying to help him. And pretty soon some of the people I was sending him to were actually as good a friend to me as he was. And so now he insulted them.”

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  3. “Well, Michael, and we've lost Michael. Michael passed away. Michael was a real total child of the 60s. He was on the newspaper staff. He was against the establishment. He was with Jane Fonda. Just imagine everything, Berkeley, the long hair of the whole thing. But Michael was really after the truth. But then Michael got to a point where he wanted, you know, as we moved into the 70s and wanted to write screenplays, wanted to write books. He did write books, but he really wanted to write screenplays. And that's how we met in a little downtown off the LA River near the Course plant used to be down there. And there was this chemical plant, and that's where Michael slept. And we, you know, we met and there was an acting group that none of us had to pay any money and was a very eclectic group of people, a lot of rock and roll people, a lot of screenwriters.”

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  4. “I go anywhere I want. I tell you the problem, you know, because I never wanted my kids to be limited, oh, daddy can't go here because daddy's too famous. I tell you where I can't go very well is to the bars because there's alcohol. When there's alcohol people get loose, they get too free. They say things. And under the guise of it or whatever, and a girl will say something and somebody will say. So that's not a good place for me, to be honest. And I'm not a drinker, so it's not really a loss for me. The other place that's more difficult is like Disneyland, where people think you're part of the ride. But I go to both places regardless. Because if my friends are there, I'll go and I'll make sure that my kids go to Disneyland. I have determined to not let fame affect them.”

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  5. “No, I tell you, you know, and so we understand how we affect people. And that's followed me with my whatever fame I carry around the world that I know I come into contact with people and there's a moment that I can have an impact on them. It's very with me.”

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  6. “Wrong, you know. I mean, I've got this life, you know, where I have this fame, worldwide fame, somebody's listening probably going, Jesus Christ, this, you know, listen, we're all bruised in this world We've all been kind of, you know, that wasn't, you know, not the kind of abusive home, thank God, you know, it wasn't, you know, somebody said, hey, gee, Kev, that's pretty mild. I would agree with you. But nevertheless, you realize if you take that and see how it affected me and then maybe add on heaps of the stuff that happens to other children, my God, we really can ruin people.”

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  7. “It's the chalkboard. And that guy was cruel. That guy shouldn't have been a teacher. Somebody should have jerked him on his ass. And so you don't talk to anybody like that. You don't humiliate anybody, let alone a kid lower grade coming into your class just to give you something. There was something really wrong with him. I probably confidently Everything would go into a fog with me when I would go up to the chalkboard. I couldn't follow the directions that anybody was saying to me. They go, this is really simple. It wasn't simple to me. Why? Because I couldn't hear it. My brain was pounding.”

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  8. “And the kids laughed And I remember that teacher told me another time, can you take this over to Mr. Chapman? I go, no, no. And she said, look, you just have to do this for whatever reason. I wasn't able to say no to her either. Again, maybe that conservative background. Into that class I went. Chapman, this little prick did the same thing again. He humiliated me and he allowed his fifth graders to laugh at me. And I believe it or not, I could never go to the chalkboard again without that fear of being laughed at. So the truth was I could go, I could go to the gas station now and give the guy the money and he goes, give me an extra diamond. I'll make this even on you. And that's the chalkboard to me”

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  9. “Can you believe that this guy would do this to a fourth grader? And he would have me try to do their math. And he laughed at me.”

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  10. “And so I walked in and I brought the paper, and he goes, What are you doing in class? And I go, oh, we're doing Claire. And he goes, well, we're doing math here. whatever kind of math oh that's really great he goes why don't you show us the math you know how to do”

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  11. “I had this little creep in, I was in fourth grade. And, you know, how sometimes the teachers will tell you, hey, the fifth grade teacher needs you to take this note over, right? Well, if I look back in my life, I've got a very, very sound life. But if I really look back at it, I do have moments where I have real problems as a result of certain things. You just don't realize it. And I remember I would go to this, so I go to the fifth grade class and there was this little prick. His name was Mr. Chapman, and he was short and he had a flat top like a marine, a flat top, and he wore a bow tie. All right. So, you know, handful already. It says prick already, right?”

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  12. “Yeah, yeah. It was like, please don't do that to me. My temples start to pound. And it's like, hey, man, why are you asking for more money or something? Because you want to make life easier. I mean, you're not. You're humiliating me. Stop. I literally kind of throw the money down on the counter and just like walk out. It's like some reflex, don't have me do math at the chalkboard.”

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  13. “I have friends at bartend. Maybe I jump back to help them for a second, but I don't know how to make change. My nightmare is when something costs $8 or something and I give them a certain amount of money and the guy goes, can you give me 10 more cents or something like that? You know, and I go, no, I'm only giving you, you know.”

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  14. “You know, I have my own seasons as a man, so to speak. I got to go hunting. I got to go fishing. I got to go back for Little League. I have these things that are important to me and important to my family.”

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  15. “But, you know, my life is so much more than acting. So I've never, you know, I stop sometimes because I just want to stop, not because I have to stop. Please, you know, it's not like I'm, remember in college, we do like black beauties, you just be up all night, you know, just somebody needs to come in and stop me, you know what I mean? I didn't have that. I have my own governor and I have my own energy level, which might not be the same as somebody else who think I think you need to slow down. I kind of know when I need to.”

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  16. “Yeah, well, you know, I was also going through a divorce, which was something that I didn't see happening to me. You know, kind of from a conservative point of view, how you raised that you think, well, this is how it's going to be the rest of your life. And you kind of know even before that, that it wasn't really working that way. But all the planets lined up with this incredibly long movie, a very tough thing. And I actually went through that entire movie, divorced, separated, and then divorced before the movie started. People don't know that. They happen to think that somewhere halfway through that happened. I was going to work every day with feeling a bit like a failure. But to me, I just go back. You put your head down, you keep working. And you keep doing the very best you can. You don't let the people know around you that your heart's on the ground.”

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  17. “I don't know where I said that, but that's just one friend to another, one colleague to another. And listen, you know, we all burn pretty hot. And bright and go pretty hard. And I don't need to let people know anything more than that other than, you know, this is a guy that was good to me. And I know he plays hard and I know he works really hard. And I want to see him have as long a life as he possibly can and do the work that means a lot to him. So I'll just kind of let it go at that.”

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  18. “I would be more comfortable saying, let us suppose, as opposed to this actually happened, because the let us suppose it's framing things for people to see. Because if there's no actual eyewitness there, you go, let us suppose this happened, you know. And Oliver didn't fight that at all. To his credit, he said, that's fine. Let's just paint that picture because that's the picture I believe that's there, you know, because you could turn and say, and now let us suppose that didn't happen, boom, and you go down that thing. And I thought it was a fair depiction, and I was proud of Oliver instead of fighting that. No, we're going to say that's fact. It is fact because this guy said it was. And I said, well, let's just think about that a little bit. It was a good collaboration.”

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  19. “We did, you know, Oliver comes under a lot of scrutiny. He really has a really active mind and is really a patriot in his own way after a truth. And he's willing to go out it very, very hard. And people have questioned him on it and the directions he goes down, the roads, the rabbit holes he's willing to go down and what gets said and who said it. And I knew I was going to be the voice of all this. And as I was going through that script, I wanted to serve Oliver. But I also wanted to serve myself a little bit too, which was to make sure that I wasn't so far out in the limb saying explicitly what Oliver is saying. And when I came to certain things that I was unsure about and some other people questioned,”

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  20. “Which is a term for I don't need the script anymore. I do that before every movie. I'm off book. I don't trust myself to learn lines the week of, the night of. I just don't do it. And it's kind of anal. But for me, it makes me more prepared to step through what I call a window of opportunity if one presents itself on the set that day. You know, a lot of people, they come, they go, no, I'll just wing it. I like being fresh. I like being, you know, open to the spontaneity. I would never trust the work that I do to that. And I would never, I couldn't do that to a movie I was working on. I wouldn't trust myself. I think going in really prepared makes me really confident to do anything that happens that day. I'm not just stuck there. I'm just prepared to do that.”

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  21. “Well, you know, I never thought that I did that scene as well as it could have been done. The writing there was so great. I just did the best I could. And I had a great director and Ron Shelton and launched me in another movie called Tin Cup. You know, how do you prepare? Let's take the scene in JFK, which was about 11 pages long. It was a really intense thing. I started on that probably a month and a half, two months before we even started filming. I'm really slow. I can memorize, I think, as well as anybody, but I can't perform with memory. I have to perform when I actually own the words and I can do them in any state. And so to do that, I know that I have to get off book.”

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  22. “black or white in the courtroom. The problem is when you see them written so well, you know, the thing in Bull Durham, you know, I believe is that you realize you're also the person that can mess them up, right? You're also the person that can take a big whiff at something that was so great. And so I usually know when I'm on to something, which is when I'm a little bit afraid of it, go, wow, I could mess this up. And I put myself there a lot of times in my life. And I've often asked myself, you know, why have I tried so hard to be in a place where I could fail so badly in front of so many? I have gone to bed at night knowing the next day, I have to deliver. And if I don't, everybody else is going to know.”

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  23. “I'm usually scared of the scenes. Number one, there's got to be a scene in there that you really want to do you think you can do. You really, really want to say that you want to be known, I guess, listen, I remember seeing Spencer Tracy and Inherit the Wind. And watching Gregory Peck and to kill a mocking bird, stand up. Your father's walk. You know what I mean? And I thought to myself, I mean, I love McQueen and I loved Newman. And there were minimalists. And so I understood how to work with a lot of economy. I knew I would do Westerns, but I was never afraid of language either. So I wasn't, you know, I remember I read a lot about McQueen and something. It's like just always ripping lines out, ripping lines. Didn't have any elongated anything. It was just not going to happen. Me, I wanted to have the winn speeches. I wanted to have those things. And I've been able to have four or five of those in my career. You know, had one with...”

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  24. “Well, I just wanted to, I tell you, I would give myself almost the same advice as I did, which was I'm going to try to hold out for the good movies. I'm not going to just try to go to movie after movie. You know, maybe what I should have given myself, which is be really ready to do the sequels. At 30, I would say, just be prepared to do Bulldurham 2, 10 cup two, you know, bodyguard two. Get in the mode of making these movies later on.”

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  25. “What they didn't know was I had been dreaming this moment for six, seven years before that. Then when it was starting to happen, I had already been planning for these things. So what was fast for other people Wasn't fast for me.”

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  26. “We'll go with this unknown. We'll go with this unknown. They continue to go with the known. So I actually thought, you know what? I'm not going to be able to jump over these guys. Timothy Hutton, you can just go right down the list. But then the big chill happened for me. And, you know, I was working as a stage manager at Raleigh Studios for three years, and I would be taking cable and working late, late, late at night. And I didn't tell a lot of people that I acted because nobody wants to be around a pining actor. So I just didn't say it. But what happened was all of a sudden when I did start to emerge, Big Chill moved to Fandango, moved to American Flyers, moved to Silverado. Suddenly it seemed like it was happening very fast for some people. Where did this come from? And then when I decided I would direct, which was about two pictures later, people thought, wow, he's moving really, really fast.”

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  27. “Uncertain movies going well, if you want too much money, we're going to go with this unknown guy. Well, who's this unknown guy? Kevin. I was a bit of a stalking horse for some people to either take less money or we're going to give this good part away.”

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  28. “Put a clock on things. So I didn't, but I was also a practical person. I mean, look at me. I know what time it is. And I'm starting to think, you know what? The people I'm supposedly going to be going up against are getting more parts. I was going up against Sean Penn and Nicholas Cage and Ken Wall and Mel Gibson and Richard Gere. And you can think of all the people that were already on the landscape when I actually decided that I would act. So they not only had those credits going for them before I started, some of them, they had 20 films behind them. And so these were the parts, this was the category that I was in. And so if I would go up for a part, there'd be four or five of these names being thrown around and they would just work their way right down. And suddenly, and so my chances of getting those parts weren't very good. But somewhere along the line, they started using me.”

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  29. “You have to think where you would fit. So I was looking at it at the landscape, obviously. I was going to class at night, doing everything I would do and, you know, hating everybody I saw or being around other actors who I realized hated everybody on television that had parts. I mean, there's like bitterness among actors among actors who don't have jobs looking out there and the people that do or whatever. And I was like, I didn't really feel that, but I could understand that. As I was moving along, there was a moment in time where I actually thought I wasn't going to make it. I did. And one thing I did once I decided that I become an actor is I didn't want to put a clock on.”

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  30. “Well, it's hard because if you want to be practical and you need to be, it's very difficult to be around people that don't see themselves clearly. When your parents tell you the fastest little runner, you believe that. But, you know, by the time you get to the sixth grade, there's people blowing by you and your chances of being an Olympics, they're not good. And so somebody says, well, I'm going to make it anyway. Okay, that's a hard person to be around a little bit. You know, in the world of acting, you have to say,”

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  31. “And so the idea, how I can correlate that a little bit would be to try to be an actor when you don't, there's no guarantee that it's ever going to work for you, but that you're willing to really work at it for a long time when all the other responsibilities that follow you being married, trying to provide, but still not giving up on your dream, it... It sustained me. I was lucky to make it. And when I got to that point, I was a better actor. I would not have been a better. Even though I made a check and everybody been really happy, I wouldn't have had the foundation. I had to re-educate myself. And I love the idea of educating myself.”

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  32. “Anything like what I think people thought I should have because I realize at the moment that I was hired that somehow I was on my own Yellow Brick Road and that appearing in that movie wasn't nearly as important as being in it. I knew I was in it. The people I was around knew I was in it. I had suddenly found my footing that had probably taken from the point of that accounting class probably taken six years, seven years. You know, people talk about entrepreneurs, you know, and the idea of being an entrepreneur is being willing to do a job that nobody else wants to do. To be able to live the rest of your life doing whatever you want to do.”

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  33. “Yeah. Well, that was a. It was the one part that Lawrence Caslan could cast without permission from the studio. He'd already done body heat and people recognize it was special talent. And a casting director named Wally Nasita, who was a very tough casting director, a no-nonsense kind of person who really actually helped her directors. Instead of she would offer up people that she thought she put me up in front of him saying that I was somebody that she thought was very good. I was lucky enough to get the big chill. And I knew immediately that my life would change as a result of that movie. And a lot of people talk about, well, you're cut out. I guess I had a small measure of disappointment, but none, not in...”

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  34. “be a failure. I would absolutely be an unhappy person. And believe me, when I could articulate that, which maybe many people could, I couldn't. But when I articulated that I didn't care anymore what anybody thought about what I did except me, All the way to the world came off my shoulders, and everything became possible It shifted everybody else that they were now worried, now they're worried, but it didn't shift everything for me it shifted to a place where I felt free.”

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  35. “And so I just like the rat and the maze going after the cheese. I just kept going to class, kept going. I was going to graduated with a degree that I didn't care. You know, I did care about the acting. And I started to fall in love with something. Didn't know if I was going to be able to make a living at it, but I finally got rid of the whispers in my head, which was, what are you going to be? And I thought, it's none of your business. I'm going to be what I want to be. I finally shook loose of, I guess, my parents. This is not a session about therapy, but I finally got rid of the whispers. It didn't matter. I knew, I somehow figured out if I didn't make myself happy, I would never be happy. If I didn't, you know, if I didn't pursue what was whispering to me, I would absolutely...”

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  36. “So let's say I'm probably 20. 21, you know, and in my mind, I thought, why, how come at 21 I don't know what I want to be? You know, there's this kind of thing. I thought I was actually getting old. I don't know what I want to do. Seemed like everybody else did. I didn't have anybody to tell me to relax. Just keep moving. You're doing fine. You know, a lot of what I got was what are you going to do?”

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  37. “No, at night, those are at night. Then I would go at night I was all we can say without beating this to death in a way or boring anybody with it. It was just suddenly I was interested. I was interested in my own life the way I used to be interested in it when I was a kid. When tomorrow was exceptional. And for me, every day was exceptional when I actually realized I wanted. Now I wasn't telling people what I wanted to do because half of me was going, who's going to believe this? Especially my dad.”

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  38. “I graduated from college, I was framing houses out in Orange County I would go and that's how I would make my dollars. I wasn't very good but I could work all day. If you could frame one house by yourself a day you could get another house but what guys were doing that were really experienced in eight hours I was doing in twelve. So I was usually out there and I think about this time of year because the sun goes down quickly. Guys are going home at 3.30. Sometimes they'd work in teams. Some guys could frame a house by themselves. I'd do it by myself. But I wasn't finished at 3.30. I wasn't finished at 5. And I had that pickup truck the same one almost killed me. I'd have the lights out and I would frame with the lights on until I was done so I could get a house the next day.”

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  39. “The next steps were the reason I didn't get the part because I wasn't very good. I could tell the people like an accounting they were better than me. They were better than me. But I thought the difference was I didn't want to try to improve in accounting. But in acting, I thought I'm going to go to school. I found something I think I want to learn. And so it was one night they started to have classes there. One night a week turned into two nights a week, turned into three, turned into four. I suddenly started to become the student that I wasn't. In college, I went to UCLA and took two classes in film financing, film budgeting. I showed up for the first day of class. I had already read the book, the entire book. I wasn't in the mood to do an all-nighter. I was interested.”

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  40. “I left it on the freeway. I left it, because I had some place where Wanted to be I had a place that something was going to happen. And of course nothing did. I wasn't good enough. I didn't have enough skill. I didn't really know about Rimpel Sketskin. I mean, I didn't know my fairy tales. I figured there was a prince. I would just leave it at that. I'll go out for the prince maybe. But I didn't get it, but my imagination started to burn about the possibilities.”

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  41. “It was, I don't know why it was designed that way, but the floor, like some ghost, pulled it straight down to the bottom. So I had my wits about me at one point halfway through when I realized I didn't want to die, and I threw the clutch in. And there was never such a terrible whine, but I thought, oh my God, it did engage, but the engine was revving. I was able to turn the key off, and I coasted to a stop, pulled over into the emergency lane, didn't kill anybody. I jumped out of that fucking car, hopped over that fence and hitchhike to my audition because I wasn't going to miss it.”

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  42. “And as I'm going down there, everything's fine. That's not a big problem, except my accelerator broke and went to the floor on this old Dotson pickup. And all of a sudden, I saw the brake lights up ahead like where those eucalyptus trees are way out there. Yeah, a couple hundred feet from brake lights. And my speedometer is going from 60 to 70 to 80, and it's not slowing down. And I'm probably going to hit those people at about 90 miles an hour and kill them, kill myself. And I'm just, and the engine is just...”

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  43. “I don't know why I just thought audition I'd like to try that. And, you know, when I closed that newspaper, I listened to the person drone on. I saw the latest pop quiz and I was last. But what I knew at that moment, I was going to that audition the next day. I was excited about the next day. It's been a long time in my college life where I was excited about the next day. And I took, I drove down, almost was killed, literally doing it. I was going down the 55 freeway, which is in Orange County. And at that time, the freeway hadn't been finished all the way. So stoplights were on the freeway at a certain point, like where they were going to build.”

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  44. “The greatest things I did was when I would go drive trucks or frame houses or I worked on commercial fishing boats. I like that work. I like the exoticness of that life or the you get what you get because that's what you just earned. And so academia was not a thing for me. And there I was smack in the middle of it and realizing that I was just like pulling sand down. I couldn't get out of this hole. But I saw what do I do? I turn off to the teacher. I open up the little student newspaper and I'm winging through the newspaper, which is all the three pages long at a college, right? And on the back of it was a play, an audition for a thing called Rumpel Stiltskin on an off-campus area.”

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  45. “Yeah, well, that was a moment in my life. I was in my, I think I was in my senior year at college, the start of it, and I was in night school. And if you know anything about night school, you know that the people in night school are really serious. So the bell graph's really hard there, you know, as opposed to a bunch of 18-year-olds or whatever you are. If you were in night school, it's serious. Those dudes are all drinking coffee. They're all still in their suits. And I'm in an accounting class. And it's not happening for me. I know I'm not supposed to be there. I know where I'm at. I'm at the other end. I'm at the wrong end of what was going to happen when a test is taken because I don't like it. But again, because of my conservative background, you graduate high school, you go to college, and you get a college degree and you get a job. I wasn't really, again, very advanced in my thinking, or my eyes weren't open to the real possibilities. I mean, I...”

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  46. “Well, my dad was the hardest on me. You couldn't be harder than my dad. So, you know, maybe that put me in a position to work. My dad said, if you can out, And it was really, very, very basic. So, you know, my own outlook for my own kids is they see that I'll work side by side with somebody. There's no difference between who I'm working with.”

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  47. “And I need what they need to learn in life is different than what I do. I never was in a limousine until I was 28 years old. They ridden in limousines going with us wherever we go since they were, you know, in diapers. So their lessons are going to be different. And part of what I anticipate for them is to be able to share their good luck. How are they going to share their good luck? How are they going to have a sense of balance? There's no book on that, but it's something I think about it and work at every day.”

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  48. “Maybe he doesn't need to do that. And somebody says, hey, Hefe, he likes it. He likes to be out here. My own children I tell my children I love them every day. That's what I tell them. And I tell them they're special every day. But I always finish that sentence with, it doesn't make you better. It doesn't make you better being special because people out there, their sons or daughters, they're special. You can feel special yourself. But even if you do something that the world acknowledges, you've got to really relax because it doesn't make you better than anybody.”

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  49. “You know, I mean, and maybe I have that in my head, you know, it's not uncommon for me when I come out with the guys that are working on the property. I'm here before they are, and I work with them all day right next to them. In fact, the ones who don't even speak English go, is he going to be here all day? And the other ones go, I think so. And then later on they go, I thought he was in the movies.”

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  50. “Well, I probably talk to my kids a little bit more than he talked to me. And I probably maybe even a little bit easier on them than he was on me. You know, man, he was tapping me on the shoulder in the morning. I said, here we go. We're going to work. I don't really do that to mine. I let them see me work. They can come work side by side. But I don't know who's right. I don't know if he's right. I don't know if I'm right. You don't know till the end. I do know that early on my dad thought, you know, you're lazy. He'd say that to me. You're lazy. And I just, I work more than anybody I know.”

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