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Larry Diamond

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“I think they've got to moderate and vet content much more aggressively to try and find ways of transcending polarization and diminishing the scope for Russia or any other malevolent actor to poison our social media atmosphere.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Voting in the United States and expand it, and we need to fight what is, I think, the most cynical dimension of the era of zero-sum politics and defection from democratic norms that we have entered, which is voter suppression, which one party is doing in a number of different states and jurisdictions with all sorts of rationalizations that they offer about efficiency and cost and cheating and so on, but which they know in their hearts and probably in their private deliberations. And we can know from their actions has the explicit and probably sole purpose of preventing minority voters from voting. And I don't want to allow a situation in the United States where so many people marched and lost their lives in the American South to finally get to a full democracy in the”
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“Federal action, I think we're not going to get because to get it through both houses of the Congress, I think, is a long stretch now. But let's do what we did in the progressive era in the early 20th century and start getting momentum at the state level through grassroots action. And eventually that can accumulate into pressure on the federal government. I think we've got to drive a stake through the heart of gerrymandering. The Supreme Court, unfortunately, abandoned what I felt it was constitutional imperative to do this and said, look, if you're going to do it, you're going to have to do it politically in the States. But we've done it in some states. We need to do it in more. We need to empower”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think a few things. Number one, in terms of the reforms we need, I think that We've got to push now on a number of state fronts for ranked choice voting. Massachusetts is going to put a voter initiative on the ballot probably in 2020 to do this. There's interest growing, I think, in other states in the United States to move to ranked choice voting at the state level.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right That's the key. Okay. If you follow the logic of election security experts and an organization that I work with verified voting, you have to start from certain first principles. And one of them is there should never be an election of consequence in the United States that cannot be audited.”
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“No, I think it's very dangerous. And for now, I think we need to be very wary about it. Because of the danger of hacking. Right.”
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“We had Florida In 2018, vote to give felons. The right to vote, to nonviolent convicted felons. We've got more and more states moving to mail-in ballots as the default option so that people have the freedom to vote whenever they want to.”
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“Well, and then you'll have the person who drew the district boundaries, like the Senate majority leader in North Carolina, walk out of the gerrymandering exercise and say, which he did, the only reason why we drew redistricting plan to give the Republicans 10 of the 13 congressional seats in North Carolina is because we couldn't figure out a way to draw a plan to give us an 11th seat. So, I mean, they're not even being apologetic. No, Verg is the new”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, which is the way a London breed was elected mayor of San Francisco, and which is used in Oakland, in Berkeley, in Minneapolis, in St. Paul, in Portland, Maine. It will be used in Santa Fe, and it's being used in an increasing number of American cities. And part of the, I think, hopeful story in my book is the way America Is seeing a revitalization of grassroots politics around the cause of political reform. So we had in 2018 Maine become the first state in the United States to adopt ranked choice voting. We've seen a number of voter initiatives to eliminate partisan gerrymandering of election districts, which is really a gross offense against Democratic. Well, they have to cheat.”
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“Now they can vote their sincere preference. It might be some moderate independent who's offering a third way between the two extremes. It might be a libertarian, a green candidate, you know, a candidate who wants to colonize the planet Mars. I don't care. I want to enable them to have a voice and have people be able to listen to them and not feel like they're wasting their vote if they want to say that's actually my first preference. If they don't make it and nobody gets a majority of first place votes, then we'll have an instant runoff and my vote will be transferred to my second choice. And if nobody...”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, this interacts with what's happened in our primary election system, where the people who turn out in our party primaries are the ones who are most intensely ideologically motivated. And that is what is driving I can't vote for a spoiler”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Take Biden because. Yes. If you waste your vote. Not because he's bass, then you'll be helping to elect the really monstrous alternative”
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“Where everybody is elected from a single member district, then whoever gets the most votes wins. If it's simple first past the post, whoever gets the most votes wins, you're not going to be able to exit from the polarizing trap of our two-party duopoly because one or the two of the other two parties is going to get the most votes almost everywhere because people are going to be afraid to vote for any kind of innovative third alternative because they will. Be fearful that they are wasting their vote.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and also the technological companies probably like Qualcomm and so on that are our only bets on the 5G front. On the politics side, let me say that part of the complacency Is just kind of sleepwalking into the future with our current models and not asking whether they're working any longer. What is the magic? Of the two party system at this point when the two political parties have brought us to this polarizing impasse of complete incapacity to pass legislation, we are just increasingly trapped in our foxholes on Capitol Hill. I think this is what you get with the first past-the-post electoral system.”
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“It is an agonizing double edged sword. But I will just say now, we're not going to get there rapidly enough without... Powerful.”
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“Some feel that they are too big and that they're too, their argument is we need to be big in order to fight. And a lot of other people's arguments is you were this big and you made this mess. You know what I mean? It's sort of a two-edge, the double-edged sword in that.”
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“We have to be careful because we could stifle innovation by going too far in that direction. But we're in an urgent situation where if we don't recognize the need as we did in the immediate aftermath of World War II, as we did in the race to the moon that we're now celebrating 50 years later, if we don't recognize the need for concerted scientific and technological government investment now in partnership with our private entrepreneurial instincts, we're going to fall further and further behind.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we need to get back to the defense report suggests at least the federal investment level of 2% of GDP in research and development. And I'll give you a very specific example. We have now realized that we've been caught napping in the race to build the telecommunications infrastructure of the future, the 5G cellular communications platforms. And we are way behind. And I think that we're not going to catch up without a massive federal investment that involves a public-private partnership between government and a variety of corporations. And I think we need both the federal government to provide the funding for that in collaboration with private companies. And we may actually need to relax our rules on monopoly practices in order to get corporations at the scale where they can do this rapidly enough.”
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“Innovation in small businesses is part of it. And then there's the question of how you do that when the two digital giants, Facebook and Google, have so much Of the marketplace. But there's also the question of federal investment in research and development. That's right. China is pouring money into the technologies of the future.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, let's start on the technological and economic fronts since we've been talking about that with respect to the primary challenge we face from the People's Republic of China. And then I really would like to get to the political dimensions of this. You know, a major report looking at China's technology transfer strategy, and that was the title of the report from the defense innovation unit In January of 2018, came to the following conclusion. Yes, we need to tighten up restrictions on Chinese investment in the United States. We need much closer monitoring. Much more vigilant approach. But we also need to up our game. That's the logic of what you're saying. And upping our game, I think Kara has multiple dimensions to it. Promoting”
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“Economically or financially, and a lot of people lose their savings. And the merry-go-round stops going around, people are going to start asking, what have you done for us lately? And if you can't continue to provide us with this dizzying material prosperity, at least give us freedom and accountability.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's all great while the merry-go-around keeps going round. Of economic growth and simply dizzying transformation in the physical circumstances of people's lives, what happens when economic growth continues to slow as it significantly doing now, possibly the economic growth rate of about 6.5%. Annually, that they've announced as being their growth rate might be overstated by as much as two percentage points. What if there's a financial crisis because of all of the extraordinary corruption in the banking system and in the state corporations and the lack of accountability there and so on? A lot of people think they've got enough money to see themselves through it. But, you know, there's a lot of vulnerability to there.”
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“Ambitious effort to extend its influence into all sorts of arenas of social, cultural, and economic control. And I think this awakening is going to balance the playing field a little bit more in the coming years. The more intriguing question is, where is it headed internally in a country where most people Support Xi Jinping and think he's doing a great job and are proud that China is finally awakening and breaking off the mental and cultural, if not still economic and geopolitical chains of a century of humiliation that began in the 19th century with the opium war and colonial presence and so on.”
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“Think tanks, the entertainment industry, corporations, local government, and other sectors of advanced industrial democratic societies. With Australia and New Zealand because of their proximity being, I think, the Canaries in the coal mine. So one place where I think it's going, Kara, is an awakening and a pushback by democratic societies. And although Trump is probably, I think, been too crude and too indiscriminate in his trade war. And I worry about some of the language and some of the mentality that his partisans are bringing to this because it can easily descend into McCarthy ethnic stereotyping and something very, very ugly and dangerous. I think there is a growing consensus on Capitol Hill across party lines. Democratic and Republican that we need to respond to this and draw boundaries around China's”
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“So let me speculate on two places where I think it's heading. One is internal and the other is external. The external is the kind of moment of truth in terms of China's bad behavior internationally. It's rising use of bullying sharp power that is distinguished from the soft power that democracies have been exercising by the fact that it is, to quote the former Australian Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, covert, coercive, or corrupting. The People's Republic of China has been for some years now Penetrating deeply into universities”
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“It's fairly funny but horrible at the same time. So what happens with this? Where do you imagine it going? Because to me, the Russian thing feels like it will eventually be a traffic accident there in Russia. But in this case, it's quite organized and quite, except for the fact they need to control their population, which is always not the greatest thing, because eventually you can't control populations. Where does this go to?”
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“And then, you know, we don't even know where this is headed genetically, but they don't have the ethical constraints, or at least there is worry among people who look at this that they don't have the ethical constraints in gene editing that we do. And this is why.”
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“Well, they haven't chipped people yet, but they're getting close to it in other ways in terms of taking iris scans. Iris scans and collecting people's DNA. And then you create a complete profile of a human being. You have their genetic information. You're gathering all their digital information. You have supercomputers that are compiling a record of every financial transaction they've ever made. And of course, you are collecting their political history of commentary on the internet. And that's what the social credit system is. You mash this all up and you can compute a score of political reliability that will enable you to determine how much you want to reward or punish people.”
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“It's also interesting pretty much a homogeneous society, too, that allows that control. What I found really most interesting was how much money internal control, how much money they're spending on internally controlling their citizens via digital technology, whether it's cameras everywhere, whether it's these concentration camps. You know, you can easily see it moving into chipping people, all kinds of stuff like that. It's a really, the amount of money for internal controls, most of which is technology using technology, is really It's a number. It's quite a number when you think about what it could be used for.”
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“And the emergence of these concentration camps in Xinjiang province and so on is taking on some really chilling neo-totalitarian properties. So if the state says to Alibaba or Tencent or whoever it might be, hand over your data, they have no choice Huawei or anyone. They have to hand it over. They may not be loving collaborators and compatriots of the Chinese Communist Party state, but they certainly are reliable ones. Because they know that they can't exist if they aren't.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know why? Because China is not a democracy. It is a deeply, deeply and increasingly authoritarian country that now with the social credit system and the expansion of the surveillance state.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're ahead on pretty much everything. Well, artificial intelligence, yeah, they're not a head on all of this, but They are taking the lead in some of this and drawing even in other parts of this. And one of the things that's so alarming. About the technological element of it is that they're plowing back all of these forms of technology into the People's Liberation Army.”
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“I think anyone who is focused on the long run of U.S. national security or U.S. international economic competitiveness sees this. And I'd say the plan is fairly transparent. They want to be the global leader in high technology In the coming two decades, which is why they're pushing very aggressively to provide and control the telecommunications infrastructure of the future, which is what the debate over the 5G cellular networks are about. But of course, it's more than that. We know that they have been involved in a dedicated process over three decades to acquire by any means fair or foul everything from sending their graduate students over to learn.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of Right, absolutely. So talk a little bit about China, though, because it's a very different situation. I consider this, I do consider this the New Cold War. We're already in it. I think we're in it. It's a digital Cold War, essentially. And it's a lot easier to do it from the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg than it is to have troops all over the world. It's just a much more effective use of money. But China's different because I think there's a lot of innovation going on in China. There's a lot of really interesting companies. You have a government that completely backs education companies. They have a plan. It's a much different approach. And I think most people feel like China is the real is where the real game is happening.”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not as an exercise in similarly cynical mischief to what Putin is doing in the United States, but as a matter of forthright, transparent analysis, what these leaders are doing is first of all criminal corruption in terms of ripping off their societies. And second of all, not in the long run interest of their people.”
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“And to our relations with China, if we frame and pitch the response, which has to be a competitive response, it has to be a pushback, as a pushback on Russian society, on Russian people, and then by the same logic, the Chinese society and the Chinese people, that this is a civilizational struggle. We're going to rally these two adversarial countries in a way. We'll rally their people around their leadership. Will make things worse and will be at risk of sliding into a new Cold War. And that's why In our messaging, in our outreach, in our engagement, in our framing, we have to look for ways to separate the leaders from the people and to show”
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“Yes, yes. I just want to add until then we have to be careful. And this is an injunction that I think applies both to our relations with Russia”
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“I think that there's great potential for Russia with its scientific and technical and computer science talent to compete in a serious and non-criminal way in the new global economy. So I think where this is going to end is that someday a growing proportion of Russians are going to figure this out and say we want a better, more genuine and more sustainable path to prosperity.”
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“Well, I think the end point is Will be a growing realization that the Emperor of Vladimir Putin and his corrupt oligarchical network around him, that they really wear no clothes. They are frauds in terms of what they're offering Russian society. People's lives aren't getting Measurably better as a result, and that there is an alternative more modern, responsible, transparent, and promising and innovative pathway for Russia to apply, Kara, just think what this country could do. If they took all the digital skills that they are using in the internet research agency in St. Petersburg and elsewhere to try and pervert and subvert and confuse American and European democracy and created a Silicon Valley In St. Petersburg or Moscow, or whatever to compete in positive ways. Oh, Larry, they're troublemakers.”
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“And when you think that that amounts to an invitation, which Trump has kind of tongue-in-cheek given to the Russian leader, To intervene all over again in our election in 2020, to have a foreign adversary And one of the greatest threats to U.S. and European national security have a clear and unobstructed path to intervene in our election, I think is pretty close to treason.”
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“That can really survive close scrutiny is that many Republicans, including the Senate majority leader, must think, hey, this is going to help us. Why stand in the way of it?”
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“Well, I think that is essentially it. And I would just put the cherry on the top of your Sundae and say, tragically, I think the only explanation”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“United States Senate if it got to the floor. Why is Mitch McConnell trying to block the United States from being more secure in its electoral administration and infrastructure?”
2019-08-07 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you throw a lot of darts on the board and they don't all have to land. So you try a number of different things. But we need... To ramp up our defense of this both as social media companies and as the United States federal and the 50 state governments very rapidly. And I think we know what they're doing now. We know what their goals and objectives are. We know at least what some of their techniques are. What is inexplicable is that the Senate majority leader of the United States, Mitch McConnell, is holding up legislation that is widely regarded by experts as necessary to secure our electoral infrastructure for 2020, knowing the kinds of things that the Russians did, knowing the capabilities that they have, knowing that they were in the voter registration databases of 20 American states in 2016. And it almost certainly would pass the”
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“Well, I always say it's one of the things about the Russian incursion say into Facebook, for example, is you'll never figure it out and it'll be so confusing that you'll doubt it. You just don't know where it hit you or where it affected you or where it had its point. That's the point of it.”
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“Thinks like him. And they've had a lot of success, and they've learned a lot from their initial forays into our society and our political and social debates. And they're coming back to do it with greater sophistication, greater Masking of what they're doing so that we can't, it won't be as easy to call it out this time.”
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“Brexit was the big test. And one of the most important right wing illiberal leaders in Europe, Marine Le Pen, who wound up being in the final round of contention for the French presidency in 2016, has admitted that she received a very large loan from Vladimir Putin. So he is deeply, deeply intervening in the politics and in the media, and of course, again, the social media of Western democracies trying to confuse and divide them, trying to challenge the notion that there is any objective truth and trying to aid his natural political allies who are, if I can put it cryptically, Steve Bannon and everybody who”
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“Christian Democratic and Social Democratic political forces in continental Europe and lifting up alternatives that were essentially pro-Russian and shared Vladimir Putin's extremely illiberal anti-Muslim and anti-equality in a way, social equality view of the world. Now, the way they did this, first in Brexit and in continental Europe before they rolled this out in a highly visible way in the United States in the 2016 election, was through social media penetration. And all of the masquerading as American actors and our social media debates and purchase of Facebook and other social media ads that Robert Muller has documented and others have documented were done in the U.S. election. Campaign and that we know we're done by the way in the Brexit campaign”
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“And so any effort of Europe and the United States to sanction them for their bad authoritarian and geopolitically irresponsible behavior has to be a very high target of pressure on their part. And so a big part of their strategy is to try to defeat and delegitimize the political actors and parties in Europe, in the United States that would try and limit the Kremlin's efforts to exercise inappropriate influence and control and restore some of the old Soviet ways to Russia's presence and posture in the world. And that meant going after Hillary Clinton. That meant going after some of the liberal and centrist and”
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“Moscow over the effort to Prevent any serious opposition candidate from running. In the Moscow City Council elections, the Russian rage is part of an effort to make Russia great again. To make Russia powerful again, to make Russia listen to again, and to give Russia significant geopolitical control and resources and leverage again. And we see this in many ways. One thing they don't want is to be constrained by sanctions.”
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