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“Well, it gives me plenty of time to keep doing this job till January of 2023. But yeah, I think it's too early. I want to get past this election, get past the virus, and then we'll take a close look at it. I really, this writing this book is not about actually running for anything. I really honestly am not so concerned about my future in the Republican Party. I'm more concerned that we have a future for the Republican Party because I really strongly believe in the two-party system. And I think we've got a lot of work to do.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I guess time will tell. And I think we'll probably figure that out sometime after this November election. But certainly there's a big chunk of the Republican base that's very strongly supportive of President Trump. But I think there's also a large chunk of folks in America that really are kind of frustrated with where the Republican Party is and that may be looking for a different direction. And we're going to have that conversation.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a terrible idea. I spoke out very strongly about it. We're probably going to talk about that with all the governors today. The most important thing we can do to get this virus under control right now is more testing and more contact tracing so we can identify where the cases are and try to stop the spread. And we need more money for testing and not less money for testing. So I have no idea where that motivation comes from.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I think we've been fighting ever since to catch up from those first few months of being behind as the virus got out of control.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think early on, the first few months, while we were president was downplaying, saying it wasn't a big deal, that it was going to go away, it was going to disappear. It was 15 people. Soon it would be none. And that we didn't develop a national testing strategy. There were people in the administration, some of our public health.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Certainly appears we're not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination. This is, I'm concerned that it's going to get worse, that it may get worse than it was before, that the fall, as we head into the flu season, could be really serious problems all across the country. We've been so far luckier than many other states. We have a slight uptick in cases because we've tripled our testing recently, so the numbers go up, but our positivity rate is still declining. Our ICUs beds are declining. So compared to a lot of states, we're doing okay, but we're watching at every single day because we're not immune. I mean, the states all around us are starting to blow up. And we've taken some very early and aggressive steps. But that doesn't mean it can't flare back up again”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I take every day as precious. And the song to me, it was so inspirational, why it was my theme song is because it really, look, I'm going to give this job I've got as governor everything I've got every single day that I'm given. Every day is a bonus as far as I'm concerned. I wasn't sure I was going to be here. Makes me realize what are the really the important things in life and what are the things that are not as important. And it really does make you think. If you take each and every day and say, you know, you don't know if it's going to be your last and you live that way and you make the most out of it, I think it can have a major impact on your life.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was crying. The audience was singing. And then afterwards, this manager, I was running out the door, not really feeling bad, by the way. I was at the worst part of my chemo. I could barely stand. Head was swollen, you know, no eyebrows or eyelashes, and really sick But they gave me a guitar that he had signed and said to Governor Hogan live like you're dying. And I have it hanging on the wall of my office. It's one of my cherished possessions.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, is that right? Yeah. So he said that every time he sings the song, he thinks about his dad. And so I went out and introduced him on the stage. He gave a great concert. And then he came out and sang the song and dedicated it to me in front of all the people I didn't know he was going to do that. He said, this goes out to Governor Hogan. He's going through it. That must have”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To talk. And he said, a lot of people, it's not my biggest song, but a lot of people really feel a connection. He told me about his dad, Tug McGraw, who was a baseball player.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know that song had a, you know, I'm a country music fan to begin with and I like Tim McGraw. But right after I got that diagnosis from the doctors and I was on my way home to talk figure out how am I going to explain this to my wife and my daughters, I put the earbuds in. I listened to that song because it's kind of a hopeful message about making the most out of every day you have and fast forward six months later as I'm five or six months later as I'm in the worst part of my chemo, the University of Maryland Medical Center where I was being treated has a benefit concert for the children's hospital. And Tim McGraw is the headliner and they asked me to come and introduce Tim McGraw and so I got a chance to meet him backstage. I didn't had never met him before. And I went and I said to him backstage, you know, Tim, I just want you to know how much your song inspired me. And we got it.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not going to have much of an impact in my state. Hillary won by almost 30 points in Maryland. And I imagine Biden will as well.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I do what it does. You know, like a lot of people in America, this is a tough election we have coming up here in November. And frankly, I'm a little bit frustrated with both parties and where we are today with our divisive politics. And regardless of what happens in November, I think both parties are going to re-examine where we're going to head.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So he and I get along really well. I think he's got a very engaging personality and was always very friendly. I haven't seen him since Elijah Cummings' funeral where we got a chance to talk a little bit. But yeah, we've always had a very friendly, he's a very affable guy who, you know, I know him well.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really, I know he was going to be at this prescott. He ran up to the podium while I'm talking and just hugged around my legs. And I was there when he rang the bell, when he was cancer-free. We sent notes back and forth. But he's just one of the many people that I just had this connection with. I still pick up the phone constantly and I'm calling.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a great name. Washington gridlocks. I like that one. And so we went down on the field and met the players and they signed autographs for the kids. And it was really wonderful. It was a group called maybe we had a dozen cancer kids. We went up to the suite and this little kid, Andrew, he handed me this note. He said, Governor, my mommy told me that you're going to go through chemo and you're going to be in the hospital night. She helped me write this note. He had this list of, you know, you just mentioned a couple of them. One of them was make sure they give you the num-num cream before they give you the pokey shots. That seems like good advice. Yeah, so that's pretty good advice. I go to the doctor and say, hey, where's the num- numb cream? You guys just keep sticking me. So when I did my press conference that I was healthy and had become cancer free, this little kid comes running up.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So Andrew is doing really well. Andrew Oberley was five years old when I first met him. I guess he's 10 now because I just hit my five-year anniversary. But we went to, this was at the team formerly known as the Redskins that we don't talk about. It was at the Washington football”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe there's a real threat here. And I finally broke down. I was like, you know, I guess my guard was down. Maybe it was the drugs or whatever. But it finally hit me. And I had a, you know, I was, I actually started crying into hospital bed there. But it was up until then, I was like, never, you know, once got, I wasn't scared. I wasn't, you know, upset. And then it finally caught up. But then I got right back on track and stayed focused and stayed positive. I worked the whole time in the hospital and tried to keep everybody else positive. And I met so many incredible fellow patients that were going through much tougher struggles, met their families. I walked the halls of the hospital and met some of the kids in the pediatric oncology ward. And, you know, it was, it sounds crazy to say this, but it was actually an experience that I think really shaped me.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That were little kids that were saying they were praying for me and just wonderful expressions of support. And all of a sudden it hit me. Not only was I choking up a little bit about the sentiment that these people were expressing, but it hit me that if all these people are that worried.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, at first, I was trying to be really strong. And maybe I was internalizing some of this. I mentioned when I first got the word, I was thinking about my family. Then I thought about how am I going to tell my staff and my cabinet, and then how am I going to tell the rest of the people in Maryland? And then let's get a plan. What are we going to do? I'm going to get this 24-hour-a-day chemo. I'm going to go through this hospital. I was just very focused like normal. Let's just get this done, very business-like. And I never really focused on the fact that I might actually not survive this until one night I was taking these 24-hour steroid drugs along with the chemo, and I couldn't sleep. And I was laying in a hospital bed late at night all by myself. And I was reading these cards and letters that my staff had brought a sample of people.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Out Yeah. So on Monday morning, I had to go in for surgery to remove a lymph node from under my arm. They put me under full anesthesia and then gave me serious, I think Perkoset or Vicodin or something afterwards for pain. And doctor said, you know, just take off the rest of the afternoon, get some rest, don't make any major decisions, don't drive or operate any heavy machinery. And I was like, the state troopers don't let me drive and I'm not operating any machinery, but I am going to give a press conference this afternoon. And he said, oh, no, you can't possibly do a press conference. And I said, well, I'm going to go into the hospital this Friday to start 24-hour day chemotherapy. I want to tell people before what's going on before the rumors start. I want to be as open as possible. And he said, you know, they're not going to ask you questions at this press conference, are they? And I said, I'm pretty sure they're going to ask me questions. So I kind of went out there. It was a little bit like, sir.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“After I shared it with my family and my staff, I went out and told the six million people of Maryland who had just put their trust in me to run their state. And I tried to be as transparent and open as possible.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was alone in the room. And I just kind of swallowed hard and maybe blinked my eyes. I was a little bit stunned. I wasn't really scared. It was a little bit just shocking. But my first thought was, how do I tell my wife and my kids? It was Father's Day weekend. It was Friday of Father's Day weekend. I had to go home and tell them and I was more worried about being positive for them than I really was about myself, frankly. Sounds strange, but it was true. And I talked about my dad earlier. He was coming over for dinner. And I had to tell my dad who took it even tougher than my wife and my daughters. Even though I was 59 at the time, my dad thought of me of his little boy that he couldn't help, you know, keep safe. But it was a tough, tough battle.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was so I had only been governor for five months. It was 60 days after dealing with the disturbance in Baltimore and after my first legislative session after having just won. So, I wasn't thinking there was anything seriously wrong, and I ended up, I went, three doctors, walked into a room and told me I had very aggressive and advanced, potentially life-threatening cancer that I had 50-some tumors from my neck to my groin. Were you alone? Was your wife?”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think it makes sense for him politically. You do these things to help you politically, I think it's a miscalculation because I think shrinking the base and alienating groups of people is not the way to go about being successful. Here in my case in Maryland, we've reached out to, I won the Asian vote overwhelmingly. I have a 70% approval among black voters. I do extremely well with Democrats and independents and suburban women. And if Republicans are going to be successful, if the president is going to be successful or other Republicans, they're going to have to find a way to not alienate each of those groups. And so the doubling down on the base. I don't think it's a good strategy. And it may help the president. It's going to crush a lot of down ballot, folks.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You She wanted to get up and leave twice, once at the Republican Governor's Association, and then again at the White House dinner. But we stayed out of respect for the people that we were with and out of them that were in the president, this respect for the office. But I don't know why he says the things he does or the way he talks. I think it's, well, you know, come on.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How he dealt with it. I'm not going to speak for him. But I think we express the frustration. And President, that night, again, at the White House reiterated the same kinds of comments he made the night before. And there's no reason for it. But look, I...”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was deeply offended. And we actually sat with the vice president at the White House dinner the next night, and she raised it to him and said, you know, hey, I know your dad fought for freedom in South Korea. They've talked about it before. And she told him how the president had assaulted her the night before and how hurt she was by it. She was almost in tears. But yeah, I... Wait a second, you can't leave the...”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, you know, I'll tell you a quick story. I went to the White House for the first time with President Obama. With my wife, or the governor's dinner, and I was so impressed with this. We walked through the receiving line to shake the president's hand with the first lady and the president take the picture, and he says, which means how you say hello in Korean. And I was really impressed that number one, he knew that my wife was Korean. And number two, he knew how to say hello in Korean. I was sitting with Valerie Jarrett. I was like, I was so impressed that he knew that. And she said, well, he does his homework before we get, they kind of prepare him for those things. But yeah, I know a little Korean, but certainly not enough to communicate. But my wife says, I've been a big part of my success. I talk a lot about that in the book.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They say opposites attract, but there was something calming about her. And we just connected and we had a little difficulty communicating at first because my Korean was non-existent in her English was struggling.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I met this incredible woman who was born in South Korea who emigrated to the country, became a citizen here, and came over young and married a Korean American here and had three daughters who she basically raised on her own as a single mom coming here to learn the language and do multiple jobs while raising three kids. Incredibly difficult story. But I met her. She's an artist. She's now an art professor. But I just, she was, there was something really different about. She's very special. She's beautiful on the outside and the inside. And she was so different than me. I was a very outgoing and knew a lot of people and was involved in a lot of things. And she was a quiet.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mentioned that, but probably had some impact. I mean, I waited until after I was 40. I joked that I didn't settle down for the first girl that came along or the second, you know, but I took my time, but I think my parents' divorce did have a big impact on me. And I was like, I don't ever want to go through that or hurt somebody the way I saw my mom hurt. But part of it was I just really enjoyed being single and I had lots of relationships and I was really focused on growing my business. And I never realized how late it was getting. I was in my 30s and I was like, you know, hey, who cares? And then I got over 40 and I was like, maybe I should, you know, I'm a young 40. I've got to sell”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When your name is Larry Hogan Jr. and the guy in charge is Larry Hogan Sr. It's hard guy. So I said what if I just were for free? No, they'll still be criticized. But a number of the other folks that were coming into the administration were like, hey, we'll get over that because he's really valuable. My dad said, and they said he can't work for free and have these responsibilities. So they put me at the lowest possible level of any county employee and I didn't care what they were paying me. It was a great experience and it worked hard doing multiple different jobs.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, so I wanted to really get this experience, and I'd love to be a part of being back in touch with my dad and being getting a chance to learn. And I really was a big part of his campaign to get him elected. And everybody on the team was like, let's go. Now we're going to go take over this county government and we're going to.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I didn't really, I was so young, I was a kid coming out. My moonlighting job was helping to run my dad's campaign for county executive. He was reviving his career. She won. We won that race. Another kind of upset. So I wasn't paying that much attention. I was going there doing my job, responding to constituent concerns and then going and doing the fun stuff running campaign.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was simple as this. I graduated from college. I was looking for a job. I sent my resumes. I graduated a degree in political science from Florida State University and put resumes out all over the hill and he was the only one that offered me a job. It was a Republican congressman. I think I was making $11,000 a year. And it didn't anything about my burning desire to be supportive of John Rousselo, but it was my first experience on the hill and didn't last very long. I didn't really enjoy being a Hill staffer. It was, I think I was there less than a year, but that was my experience on Capitol Hill.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, so I went into business and was very successful. He spent most of his life in politics, and I was able to kind of carve out my own niche. But that politics was still, even after 20 years of kind of trying to go cold turkey, you know, it dragged me back in because I just got frustrated with what was going on in our state. And I decided maybe I can try to do something about it. And I put together a grassroots citizen organization that had just as many Democrats and independents as Republicans. It's the only way to win. And we had the highest Democratic registration in America. And Republican candidates don't win very often. No, there's no...”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I tell you an interesting story. When I, you know, my dad was in his 80s when I got elected. And on election night, we had pulled off the impossible. I was not on anybody's radar screen. And we underfunded campaign. We won in Maryland, which no one was expecting. It was the biggest surprise upset in America in 2014. My dad was there with us. And I turned to him. He had run unsuccessfully in 1974. In 2014, I won. And I turned to him. I said, Dad, it may have taken us 40 years, but we're finally going to have a Larry Hogan in the governor's mansion. Tears rolled down my dad's face. At that point when I realized, you know, I'd been proud of him my whole life, but that night he was. He was pretty proud of me.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we had a fun time. Stenny and I are close friends now, but we had a pretty aggressive campaign. I ran an underfunded campaign in a three-to-one Democratic district in a big presidential year when Bill Clinton was winning in a landslide in my district. And we gave him a run for his money.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, to this day, I mean, I'm probably more frustrated and disgusted with it than I ever have been, frankly. But I've enjoyed the campaign aspect of it. And I learned an awful lot. But my dad gave me some really good advice and he said, don't make it your career. So I spent most of my life. As a small businessman in private sector, but I, you know, I dabbled in politics because I thought it was important. And so you didn't just dabble.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, I think he was really shocked by it because there were polls showing him winning the general election. It was a tiny turnout because there aren't many Republicans in Maryland to begin with. And not today, and there weren't certainly any back then either. And it was a tiny turnout. And the few people that came out were really angry with him and supporting President Nixon. And so after the election, it all kind of changed, but it was a little bit of a shock. I mean, nobody expected him to lose.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She's so like Donald Trump. We knew he would exactly But I mean, look, I've been one of the few people that's willing to, I haven't been out going after the president for no reason. But when I believe he's doing something wrong, I've been one of the few Republicans that'll stand up and say so. But there are a lot of folks that really are afraid of being tweeted about or being attacked”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Well, and this was, I mean, Nixon was seen as a guy that kind of went after, he had these enemies list. He was very aggressive if you weren't toe in the line and being on. But not a gent”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sitting in judgment of the President of the United States and one of the most important decisions to face the country. And he wasn't really sharing much of the information or the evidence that he was keeping it. He was trying to really wrestle with this, making sure he made the right decision.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a great question. I never asked him that. He didn't really talk about it. I think probably not because he saw his role as a juror.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But when he saw the evidence, he was curious that the president was guilty of impeachable offenses and that no man was above the law.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. He said, you know, this may be the end of my political career. A lot of people are going to be upset. And it was true. I mean, the people in Congress stopped talking to him. He got, I think, we didn't have the internet back then. And you didn't have Twitter, but he got 15,000 pieces of hate mail. And people mailed feces in the mail to his congressional office. And he really, it took a long time. But later, of course, he turned out to be, you know, he actually was at Nixon supporter. He campaigned with Nixon. He thought Nixon had done a good job on foreign policy with China. But as that FBI agent and that Georgetown trained lawyer, he fought to make sure it was a fair trial and that Nixon could cross-examine witnesses and present evidence because he did not let it become a partisan process.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had a really good chance to be elected. And the Republicans were really angry. They saw him as a turncoat. Or, you know, why aren't you supporting the president of your own party? And how could you do this? Later, of course, it's the thing he's most remembered for. And the thing, you know, the one thing in life that I think people say, wow, your dad had a lot of courage and he stood up and took this stand. But at the time, he knew ahead of time this was going to, he was going to lose friends in Congress. Did he tell you that?”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I talk about this a little bit in my book. It had a huge impact on me to this day. You know, I learned so much about integrity and public service from my dad, especially that one moment in time when he was on the House Judiciary Committee for that vote. He was the very first Republican to come out for Nixon's impeachment. And it rippled across the rest of the committee and across the country public opinion. Nixon's decisions about what to do. At the time, it was an incredibly difficult thing to do. And for decades, it hurt him personally, politically.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Lotion Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed it while I was there, but I guess he was probably right. It wasn't something I could do long term.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source