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“A tough position to be in. Yeah. But it didn't turn out to be so bad. My mom trying to get away from Washington and get away from just to find a new place to start over moved us to Florida and I ended up making all new friends and going to staying down there and going to school at Florida State and came back to the Maryland area, the Washington area after college. But put together because your dad didn't.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I really had a choice. Do I stay with my dad or stay with my mom? I guess some people are putting that situation. And I made the decision that my mom just needed me more than my dad did, even though I was a kid. I felt like I was her protector.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fun things together. I didn't want to leave my friends in the school that I loved and have my life uprooted. But, you know, it's a tough thing so many people go through these divorces and it's hard on kids. I was a young kid. Yeah, I always want to.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I tell some of these stories just to kind of just tell you what made me the way I am, I guess. Yeah, so what effect did that have? I loved both my parents. And, you know, I admired my dad so much. And quite frankly, I enjoyed hanging out with him because we did really.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He really was. He was a leading scorer in the NBA, rookie of the year. I was friends with Adrian. I just saw him not too long ago. He was a year older than me, but a great, a great basketball player. I loved basketball, and I wasn't quite good enough to make that team because they were the best team in the country. I think had three NBA players on the team.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, frankly, I think the Democrat's message, I think they're making a mistake. I want to get, I don't want to play pundit. That's right. This is more your expertise. You're more of a campaign guy than me. But I think the Democrats are making mistake. You've given him a platform to talk about the whole defunding the police. And I realize Joe Biden is not in favor of defunding the police. But this message, when you see some anarchy in some of the streets of these cities and you have a talk about, we have to get defund or get rid of police, it has opened the door for that. I'm not saying it should be the message, but it certainly becoming an issue that they're going to both argue about from now until November.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not a decision, I certainly would have made, but I also would have strongly advised those mayors in those cities and those governors to have taken more steps than they have to stop some of the violence and the destruction and the burning and the looting that's been going on for several months.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that's what you need to avoid. Yeah, and that's what we tried not to do. And if you look at our response in Baltimore, not only in 2015, but this time when the protests over the death of George Floyd, we responded better than most cities in America where we had almost 10,000 people peacefully protesting at multiple protests. But for the most part, very nonviolent, very little destruction. But we did have the state police and the National Guard backing up the city police to keep...”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Violence on either side is escalating the situation. And I think I write about that. I have five chapters about this in this book about how to do it. I think the right way. And we got credited for that. I taught a course at the National Governors Association on how to handle a crisis.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we can talk a little bit about that in more detail if you want. But the parallel today is I think I'll tell you both sides of that story. I don't think that you should have to have federal troops or federal, whatever kind of federal agents are coming into these cities to take the actions that they're taking. But I also believe that we can't have sort of mobs with violence and destruction in some of our cities that have been in some cases and a couple of these cities going on for several months at a time. And I would say that I actually talk about a better way to handle it with sort of a peace through strength where we had the law enforcement able to protect property and life and limb and to keep people of the city safe and to stop the violent acts while protecting and allowing the peaceful protesters to express their very legitimate frustrations.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Freddie Gray was a young man in the city of Baltimore who died in police custody. His death, much like some of the things that are happening today, set off frustration. This was after Ferguson. Baltimore was the next one. It was at the beginnings of the Black Lives Matter movement. In addition to some peaceful protesting, we had some real violence break out in Baltimore City. And in the first few hours, 400 businesses and homes were destroyed and burned and 127 police and firefighters were injured. It was really out of control. And I, as a governor, had to make the decision to come in to help keep Baltimore safe and send in police officers and the Maryland National Guard. But we did so in a way that we allowed the protest to go on for a week and we just backed up the city police who were beleaguered and overwhelmed.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You skipped my whole life story. Don't worry about it. I'm getting back to it, brother. It's too good to miss. But yeah, so I taught actually to draw us back in and bring it into the conversation. I talk about this in my book that is kind of parallels with what's going on today in some respects. Right after I had become governor in 2015, we had”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't want to jump too far ahead in the conversation. From my dad's early FBI to what's happening today, I'm completely absolving your dad.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's no question that was there's some parallels to some of the things that are going on today, but there was the Republican Party was talking about law and order. And I think coming from law enforcement background, maybe that was some of the things that motivated him to.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Lot of Irish Catholics were. At least Irish Catholic. It was almost a prerequisite, right? But I think he was attracted to at that time the philosophy of the Republican Party. And I think he just decided to have an interest, more of an interest in politics than he did before. And he ended up.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he may have been the first Republican in the family. I know that his dad was a strong Democrat and involved in the Printers Union. And I think my dad was initially really attracted to and enthralled with John F. Kennedy.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I think he was dabbling because of his public relations background. He got involved in helping in a couple of campaigns, just not really in a high level, but I think helping in the managing of a couple of local campaigns and maybe helping in a gubernatorial campaign in Maryland for Republican candidate that didn't have much of a chance. When he got interested and he attended a convention, and then he really was, he decided to run for Congress in a district that had no ability for a Republican to win in. And he decided to take on a long-term incumbent and ran once and with no money and no real chance, came very close and came back again and was elected three terms in Congress and then gave up his seat to run for governor.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Total shift, and I don't know what motivated him. I think he was a little frustrated with the FBI, although I think he was proud to be an FBI agent and enjoyed part of that. But he studied journalism and undergraduate. And he always had a hankering for writing. And I think the public relations, getting involved in publishing magazines and trade publications, things like that is what drew him into that change of careers.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He did. I mean, I was fair, you know, I was very young at the time when that was going on. So at the time, I wasn't hearing those stories, but later my dad would reminisce about some of his early days at the bureau and what it was like working for J. Edgar Hoover. He traveled around being an FBI agent and had some big cases that he worked on. But he actually wrote a book about a thing called the Osage Indian Murders, which investigated people that were marrying into a tribe to get head rights and steal the land from Indians, which was a big case. But he told some interesting stories that we probably could spend all day talking about.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I think this was during Jay Edgar Hoover. And he just had a passion for the law. And so while he started working at the FBI, while he was in Georgetown Law School and then graduating with his degree in law, he went on to become a special agent. He tells some really interesting stories of his own about some of the cases he was involved in. But he went on to have a very career with doing a lot of other interesting things.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that happened a lot back then. They didn't have any money, and he was the first in his family to go to college and go through law school. But they both worked multiple jobs to try to be able to afford to do that. And he got a great education. I learned so much from both my parents, and they had a huge impact on my life. I talk a little bit about that early life in my book.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was two separate. It was an all boys Catholic high school my dad went to and kind of the sister school my mom went to a Catholic girl school in Washington DC, but they were high school sweethearts and then my dad went on to so you can separate you.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I'm very proud of my heritage and I heard a lot of stories from my grandparents, but on both sides of the family, very Irish, typical Irish Catholic family.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think, like so many people in America, we got that background. And all of my, I say I'm 100% Irish. It's probably why I drink beer and eat potatoes so often, why I look the way I do. But I'd be the last to critic.”
2020-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 397 — Gov. Larry Hogan · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source