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  1. Did she Yes. You are, but digitally speaking. Actually, not them. They're very bright and very also. Yeah, we're going to do a big interview soon.

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  2. I know swer Brushed beautiful picture. On the website The podcast taking. Kim Kardashian taught me to do selfies. Did she? I put her on stage at one of our events because she was one of the biggest social media followings. Yes. When I called to talk to her about, she's like, why do you want me? Everyone thinks I'm dumb. I'm like, no, not digitally. Maybe you are, but digitally speaking. Actually, not them.

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  3. Do you know swerve it? So, yes. So the three of us are there in this very, very filtered airbrushed, beautiful picture. And Kim must have tagged me and literally within 24 hours eight.

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  4. No, we don't do that, but I am having him on my podcast. I have some things I want to ask Harvey Levin from TMZ. But for years, never, we had this Laura Wasser official website. There's never been anything on it. Nothing ever was posted. I'm not a big Instagram person. And a couple of days after Christmas, I see my phone like blowing up. Evidently, there was a picture taken in one of the photo booths of me and Kim Kardashian and my friend Shelly. Another divorce.

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  5. We've got anything that we're trying to promote that has to do with a better self. So we've got our people from the index. We've got, you know, right now there's a great thing up there about the contents. Right, okay.

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  6. Yeah, I think you were in the taboo. I tried to stay. For 25 years, I've built my whole career on being on the DL. Now we launched It's Over Easy. We've got the Laura Wasser official, which is the official website. We've got the Divorce Sucks podcast on Todd Haffel also. And so we have all of this where I'm now on display for everybody, but I think it's for the greater good, which is get real, get educated, figure out how you need to start your next chapter.

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  7. Well, even before, if we're not in your state yet, still come visit us because we have a record of you. You can still visit our content. A lot of the stuff's the same wherever you live. So it's overeasy.com. We're also on Instagram at its overeasy.

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  8. Get married again. Get in another relationship, whatever you need to do to be happy. I don't get the marriage thing to begin with, but that's a whole nother podcast. But, you know, fall in love. Love is good.

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  9. Particularly when you're paying someone or something else an hourly or a fee or something, boil this down and get this part of it done. Don't be sloppy or lazy. Get the information you need, but then move on. And probably even before that one is educate yourself. I've got plenty of people who come to me and say, I don't even know what our finances are. He or she was the breadwinner. I don't know what we make. I don't know what we spend. I don't know what we have. Get that information because that's really important for you as a human on this earth and if you're raising kids to know. So educate, be kind, treat it as a business transaction. And then perhaps most important, this isn't the end. This is the beginning. Start your next chapter. Live a good life. Put something positive back into the world again, particularly if you have kids and get out there and do it.

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  10. What The key thing about being a hateful. That is the first thing. Don't be a hateful jackass. And that's, by the way, folks, this is not only on the site, but this is if you are a client of my firm as well. Remember that this is a person A, that at some point you loved. You loved enough to marry. You loved enough to procreate with if you have kids. Remember that this person is probably somewhere around 50% of the DNA in your kids if you guys had kids together. Remember that you're going to have to continue interacting with this person. So you better figure. And when your kids hear you talking shit about your ex, they take that personally because they know that they're part your ex. That kind of absorbs into them. So that's part of it. But then the second part of it is really to the extent you can once you've taken all that into consideration handle this like it is a business negotiation, like a transaction because that's what this part of it is. You got years and years of therapy and healing and figuring out ways to better communicate and co-parent and all that. This part of it.

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  11. So, last bit, even though it's not a digital thing, what are the sort of key things to remember when you're getting a divorce? I think it would be really good. What are the key things on the site that you recommend? The key thing not being a hateful jacket.

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  12. You even though we're right here No, they're all sit in their rooms together taxing each other. New Year's party staring at their phones. Funny. It was, I took them all away. I took them all away for a second. So

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  13. Have any interaction, and there's a young woman who's interviewing for a job, and she meets the person that she's interviewing with at a bar, and they're face to face, and she says, do you think we could just text this interview, even though we're right here? And that's kind of what we've become. You've got teenage sons, me too. They all sit in their rooms together at each other.

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  14. Okay, it's by Jennifer Egan. She also wrote Manhattan Beach, which could have been a totally different author. But it was, you should read it. It was about, again, it was, I think she wrote it 10 or 15 years ago. It's about how there was going to be this device that everybody uses that we hold in the palm of our hands and we use it for everything. Well, that's become our phones. But it was interesting to talk about how people didn't want to go into stores. They didn't want to.

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  15. Was a judge, and The right thing. That's what we see in the movies. It's really interesting when you think about it because we do have a loud. We used to wander through stores. The shift is so dramatic among young people especially. Know in terms of how they don't, they just, and I like I do not like to. I wrote all column. This is what it took to get me in a store. Don't tell me.

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  16. What if it's a better? Because I don't know what a better decision is, but I don't know that I'm willing to trust again, I was born in 68. I grew up seeing a person in a black robe that was a judge and he or she was smart and educated and had a heart and did the right thing. That's what we see in the movies. We're supposed to think. Can a robot do that? I don't know. It's really.

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  17. Well, yeah, it wasn't the first thing when nine of us were willing to get into a computerized car to drive us somewhere. I mean, then wouldn't we let somebody take out our kidney if it was a robot? And then wouldn't we let somebody make that decision from a judicial standpoint? That makes me a little bit nervous, frankly. Because I feel like I would want a real human taking out my kidney and I would want a real human deciding issues, important issues regarding custody, not Wednesday nights, but if my kid had some kind of a disease and I wanted to have some treatment and then his other parent wanted to have a different kind of treatment, I would want a real person. I'm telling the devil's absence, but why?

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  18. It's very artificial intelligence. Very none of that. No, but it's interesting because you do think, like I think about it in medicine, I think about it in law, like there's diagnostics. Doctors are just not any good at it. Lots of doctors are. But do you know what I mean? Like the way that we think of them?

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  19. I think it will. What did you? What do you mean by that? I think that eventually you will probably be able to do just about everything legally online. I think people will embrace it. And I think that the technology will be better. And so people will do it. And the litigation that we have in the United States, I hope, will be reduced and only the really important things will be the things that are tried in front of judicial officers because there's an impossible glut in our courtrooms too. Right.

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  20. It is needlessly complex, and hopefully maybe I'm the tail wagging the dog here, but hopefully the legislature will go, maybe we could simplify this. Maybe we could make it easier for people to get through this part of what they're going through. And then on to the next, Canada is completely revamping their system, Alberta, from the inside, from the family outward, doing it, making it kid-based. I don't even think they call it family law. I think they call it children's rights law or something like that. But this is for the money aspect, too. They've broken down the system. They're changing the legislature, and they're taking it from the inside out, all based on kids and what their needs are. So I'd like to have our system follow that somehow. My main thing is bringing it to light, giving people an education, letting people see how it can be done better. And then the rest of it, I think, will fall in line. I'm not as interested in legal tech eating the world as I am. You said that, though.

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  21. For the most part, I believe that family law practitioners want to simplify it and make it easier for people. There have been a few people that have said it'll never work. Are always going to need somebody there to hold their hands. Are always going to need advocates.

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  22. Mostly great. Other lawyers have said either they've kind of patted me and said, that's nice. Go help the poor people. We'll take the rich people. I haven't had anybody overtly say to me, you're killing our practice because the people that I've spoken to, look, you kind of have to jump on board. You can't say like, hey, you're pulling back the curtain in Emerald City

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  23. Slow Are we really even having that conversation anymore? Why would a father, male, not be as good of a parent as a female? If both of them were raising the kids before they split up. So that stuff has shifted. Look, I think there's always going to need to be a bit of a human touch, and I think that's important. But rather than disrupting the legal field, which is what so many people have told me that I'm doing, I want to disrupt the family field. I want people. To come to the table from a different perspective. And then if you need a lawyer because it's complex, you say to your lawyer, I'm watching you, and I'm watching your letters, and I'm watching how you... Interact with the other attorney. Don't you spend my money getting into a pissing contest at that point?

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  24. And yet, I mean, look, there has been a bit of a shift over the past 20 years in terms of custody, at least in Southern California. Not so many other states, but even southern more than northern, going, why would it be that the mom should have the kids? So we have, but slow.

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  25. Doesn't matter. Right. And so when you think about law, like law in general, to me, it's completely right for utter disruption. And it hasn't been yet. It has been a little bit because largely because the legislators are controlled by lawyers and they create complex situations. But when you bring in machine learning and self-learning computers, it becomes different because you can see a robotic lawyer. You can see so many of these things are so pattern-based, right? Totally.

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  26. No, I get it. But even that resistance, so much of what we do, it's like therapy online. I mean, can people really do therapy online? Can you really have a digital app that explains, okay, calm down, take four deep breaths, now respond to your partner, whatever. Could the same thing happen? For a lot of it, I think it could happen. Are people afraid of that? Some of them are afraid of it, and some of them are in complete denial about it. Or figure, I only got this many years left. I don't care if that happens because I'm going to be on the golf course by that time, so it doesn't matter.

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  27. He has been forced to figure out how to use his iPhone. An hour with my kids on New Year's Day learning how to do the cartoon emojis that talk themselves. So we get that every once in a while blasting into our house. But when we first all got computers and desktops at our office, there were two or three of the older partners who said, I'm not, I don't want to be on.

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  28. It is to see miserable parents hate it. Getting to the larger think of legal, do you ever imagine, because some people are thinking, people are talking about the impact of AI, the impact of all kinds of things. One of the things I always say is anything that can be digitized will be digitized. And so much of law, including divorce law, seems so digitizable and so not in need of, given how complex it is, but these advanced computer and machine learning systems can really anticipate everything and put offerings. Do you imagine that the law, people in the law understand that so much of what they do is going to be replaced?

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  29. That shouldn't be the case either. There has to be a happy medium where people own what they're going through, take some responsibility. We simplify the law in the forms and get it done. And I'm not saying, oh, laissez-faire, isn't it casual? Let's get divorced and move on and whatever. But let's realize that if it's not working out, isn't it better for kids to see two happy parents alone or in relationships with new people than it is to see miserable parents hate each other?

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  30. Plump and whatever. I said, Well, then let me give you the name of one of my colleagues who's great. But if we're dealing with kids, I kind of need to meet you. You don't need to come to my office. I'll come to you, but you need to be part of the process. I think everybody should be part of the process. I think everybody should have the opportunity. And so many people that don't have a ton of money really want to know. And then you've got the lawyers that are kind of like, I've got this for you. Let me throw some legalese in here and confuse you, and then I'll do it.

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  31. I said, I don't know. Is your assistant the legal guardian of your kids? Well, no, but I'm really busy and I've got a blowout, and I've

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  32. Simpler for people and to force people to kind of educate themselves and learn about it for the benefit of their families. I've had so many famous people come to me. They don't come to me. They send their assistance. Can I just, can you meet with my assistant?

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  33. Represent you and be your advocate in front of a judicial officer. That may be important. And you don't want to mess it up at the early stages by going, I can do this myself. I get clients sometimes at my firm. We're like, I represented myself and I did this. And then I did this and I did this. And I was like, oh, I don't want to have anything to do with you. Let me send you somewhere else because you totally messed it up. Right. So I think there will always be a place for people to get representation that they need and have advocates. That's important. But I think for some of the smaller, simpler things, my goal is to make the divorce process.

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  34. So, I mean, part of it is, and I'm not advocating for people to give up on lawyers. At some point, you may need somebody who really is a specialist in their field to be able to give you sound advice. And furthermore

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  35. It's not akin, like there's been a lot of companies that are trying to do this with elder care and things like this, like the idea of the legal problems around elder care and then also the care problems of the idea of living your life online. Can you talk, I want to go into in the last part is talking about sort of the legal profession. It's been one of the few professions that has been resistant to digital more so than others. Now there's obviously legal Zoom, there's documents and things like that. But in general, there still is an analog relationship. I just hired a lawyer for something and I was like, do we need a lawyer? I guess I did. And I didn't want to need a lawyer. You know what I mean?

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  36. If you had all that in one place, wouldn't that be great? So it's that kind of stuff that we use that we don't even consciously use it. Let's put it all in one place, do it all on an app, get the nanny looped in if she needs to be looped in. Get the grandparents looped in if they need to be looped in. And at some point even looped the judge in if you end up in front of him or her.

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  37. The law is always there. You can always, as a backup, run down to cord and argue about who had vacation, winter vacation in 2018 or whatever. But if you have that somewhere in your phone or computer and you've kept the app and here's where she said, no, no, no, I want it this year because it's my mother's 80th birthday or whatever. Yeah, so that's helpful too. I think you and I do that even without being conscious of it because I am horrible and I don't erase my text not to have any kind of a trail just because that's how I am. So when I say to my ex, hey, I'm going to pick him up at three after his first day of school on Thursday and then I forget that I said I was going to do that and the kid's waiting at school and my ex goes, dude, you said you were picking him up. Here's the text.

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  38. But you deal, you're going to be dealing with that person, particularly if you have kids for a long time. So there are certain things that we could add to this. Right now we have a co-parenting calendar. There could be something that allows the user to continue using that co-parenting calendar. And again,

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  39. It's too small. And again, it does take a little while, but we want to make it bigger, and we want to do, I also want to have something that will have a tail on it that we could, you know, once the divorce is over, we're done. You can still be part of our community. I'd love it to be that we've got a banking app on there so that people can share their expenses and reconcile the accounts together, communication portal for parents to be able to talk to each other. I have all kinds of great founder ideas and all of my tech engineers are like, slow your roll, lady, let's just see if we can get into Florida, okay?

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  40. That the forms that the state still mandates that you complete would be really, you'd have to have a bigger phone. I mean, again, you could totally do it. We have the app available, but probably filling them out, you're going to need to see them a little bigger. Right.

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  41. Sign up, you can certainly go through the content. You can get the referrals. That would be great. You don't want to fill out an income and expense declaration on your phone. Of Just checking in. How are you doing? To what a divorce lawyer. Right, right. In terms of notifications and things like that. But why couldn't you get to an app divorce? You could level of information.

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  42. I always say it's very difficult to get divorced on your phone on the subway, but you can sign up, you can certainly go through the content, you can get the referrals. That would be great. You don't want to fill out an income and expense declaration on your phone. Well, it is an app. When you join, we pin you. The other thing that we've had issues with in terms of glitches, you ask like, it's kind of weird to get like a ping. Maybe you haven't told your partner yet you're getting divorced. Hey, it's overeasy. Just checking in. How are you doing? So we want to be very sensitive to that because it's private and personal and we don't necessarily want, you know, we don't cold call. We send emails, but it always has kind of a weird ray line so that people can feel comfortable getting comfortable with us and getting know us just like what a divorce lawyer.

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  43. Well, not people have approached me, and actually this morning I got a letter from a woman in England saying, I really want to bring this. Can you help us with the app? I mean, absolutely, because it is. So you have an app.

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  44. The latest thing is to believe in. Yes, I potentially appropriate it. I tell people to handle their divorces like a business transaction because they often don't. There's one part of it that says, I got nothing to lose, he or she's paying the fees. I'm going to run this up. I'm going to be hysterical. I'm going to argue about that coffee cup all day long because I can. Taking that out of the equation and saying, like, wait a minute, get all of the emotional and therapeutic help you need. Pay somebody else that's really good at that. Don't pay your lawyers because most of us, frankly, don't know what it takes to get through the grieving process and what the tips and tools are to communicate effectively with your ex. I've picked up some stuff over 25 years professionally and personally, but wouldn't you want to be paying even at the very highest $350 to somebody who's actually got a degree in this as opposed to $850 to me who doesn't know anything and just keeps having kids with people and breaking up? I mean.

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  45. I mean, there is a field, but it's certainly not, you know, we're not curing cancer or anything. We are doing something that I believe will make it easier for people. And I talk to so many people that are our age. I said, oh, my parents went through a horrible divorce. And now I'm going to go through a horrible divorce. Why should that be? Breaking up socks, there's no question about it, but we've all been in a relationship and broken up and we've prevailed and withstood and moved on. Why are we so reluctant to change the way we approach this and do it the way it sounds like you and Urex did it? Me and my exes have done it. It's not fun, but it is certainly something that we need to figure out how to get through for our kids.

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  46. But something to a tech, but it is an inability to kind of wrap our heads around what issues are important and make those issues kind of to push forward. And again, divorce has always kind of been the ugly stepchild of law. When my dad first started practicing divorce here in Southern California in the 60s, it was because young Jewish men, forget women, couldn't get jobs doing anything but family law, matrimonial, or personal injury. They couldn't get hired at like the white law, you know, white-collar law firms that do taxes and all that. that do all that stuff they couldn't so that's what he went into because it was kind of the schlepper version but when and then he rose to the top of his field and he actually represented billie jean king and what was the first gallimony palimony case so

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  47. It is a snatching. Why is the law the last thing to change? Why is it that same sex couples couldn't get married in a couple years ago?

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  48. Yes, the entire space. Yes. So that was my point. But I would Talking about the broader sort of legal environment when you think of it, there is turbo tax for accounting. You have that company doing that. You have legal Zoom doing documents and stuff like that. Talk about the legal profession and its slowness. Like you saying that Los Angeles, I didn't realize it doesn't have electronic filing. It's really kind of astonishing.

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  49. Yes, right. That's the whole point. I have to do more of a turbo tax for divorce, but the launching, what I was told, and again, I don't know much about any of this, but I like Uber. I take Ubers, is that when they launch, they would do a city entire system. So that was my point, that I would do Miami as opposed to all of Florida.

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  50. Same time, here's a this is very typical for what a startup does it attacks an industry that's overpriced and overbloated essentially and hard and purposely hard makes it easy and cuts prices, right? Yes. That's the whole point. That's how all of them do it, essentially. So when you were talking about an Uber, like an Uber for divorce essentially, how do you do more of a term?

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