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Laura Wasser

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“Now fast forward five years to 2018 when we launched It's Over Easy. Everybody wanted to have me on their show in their ad, whatever, because it was interesting and they realized that Legal Tech is going to eat the world and this is a really good way of approaching it. So things are changing. But again, I think people were a little bit like, well, how do I go home and tell my wife over dinner and my, you know, Silicon Valley mansion that I'm putting money into a divorce website? So they're waiting to see how we do. And again, people, smart people that you and I have mutually know have said to me, if you can afford to keep this small for now and do it the way you want to do it, then do because you don't want to have somebody acquire so much of you that you don't have the control that you can't still give people the kind of content that you really want to give them and also give them the referrals that you want to give them if that's what you're doing.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At the time, yeah. I mean, look, there's only a certain amount of divorces every year. I do believe that there's kind of a leg.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I even went up to your neck of the woods and had some meetings. They said at the beginning I was too small, I may go out again. I also don't want to lose too much control over.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not just me, friends and family that I've either known for a long time, did good work on their divorces and they really see a need for change and wanting to help. But it's been pretty much on a shoestring so far and we've done well with it.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're using the brand that is me to do some of it. And again, we're small, we're a startup. A lot of this has been bootstrapped, the funding for it.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. Well, that's where the people are, and that's where higher divorce rates. So we're getting, I mean, we may never be fully operational in like Rhode Island because it may not necessarily make sense. We will probably have like a downloadable version of it that we could still help people. So right now, it's just kind of getting up to speed. And so I believe that in January, and we have also done a bit of an Uber, we won't go statewide in some of those. We'll do city. A bit of an Uber in that rather than going all of Massachusetts. We're going to do Boston. We won't do all of Florida just yet. We'll do Dade County, which is Miami. We'll do probably Chicago and Illinois. And I think Denver, Colorado, the biggest cities that get divorced in, we're doing Houston and Texas, we decided because they had the biggest kind of divorce rate, even bigger than Austin or Dallas. So we'll launch in those and then we'll kind of slowly, word of mouth, grow outward growth. It is kind of a grassroots advertising.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“18 to 20 percent of the divorces in the US happen in New York and California. California is the absolute by far the highest than New York. And at least six of”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's just so many, and you know, we don't have a ton of funding for it federally or statewide. And so we're just getting up to speed”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have process servers. We have guys that we work with on motorcycles, and they're like, you know, they get down there, they do it. But yes, eventually you will do electronic filing everywhere, and that will make things simpler. What's been the slowdown?”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Well, no, that's not Beishev. You're getting conformed copies. Bathes is the number so that you can take you four, ten, five, six, two. There's a lot of people who does this. A Bathamper? Yeah, a long time.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, why is that? Talk about that because one of your parts of your business is filing, you're going to lose money if you're going to have to bring hand deliver documents to courts and get them bait stamped or whatever.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, that's not the case in Santa Barbara. I mean, you can electronically file several other outgoing courts, but the biggest one in Southern California is Stanley Mosque downtown, and we've been working on it for a long time. It's a huge project.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, California, New York. And know a little bit about the law there. Because even if we're not giving legal advice, we have to be able to tell them okay, you got six months before this, or here's the courthouse that we're going to file your documents in. One of the big problems and why it's been so kind of hard to get arms around this is even in California, there's so many different counties, and each county has its own different not forms, but the courtrooms have a different way of doing things. Los Angeles Superior hasn't even gotten electronic filing yet. That's how difficult it's been. So it's really, really a big project.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Won't be able to. Okay, so you have 300 just in New York. How do you get California, New York? I'm sorry. And then you have to just download the forms. That's all you have to do to get people to use it in the different states.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And again, or settling conflict. You can have a client that is just absolutely so difficult to deal with. Those people are not going to be the people that use it's overeasy. They won't be able to.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In New York, and then the other states that I'm branching out to, I have called on people that are kind of at the top of their field and say, hey, this is my thing. Check it out. There's a video. What do you think? And without exception, every single person that I've approached has said, oh my God, this is amazing. Now, if they were all horrible people that were just trying to turn their fees, they wouldn't be saying that. We all want some change. We all want people to approach things better. We all want to be problem solvers and get it done. Are there people that have gone to the dark side? Yeah, there are. But most of the people I came up knowing, because again, my dad did this. And so I met his colleagues and the people that have been in our community are really great people, smart, wise. Still inherently.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I don't know that meter reads actually, but they could be nicer. There is a problem inherent to the fact, and like I said, I say it all the time, with somebody who makes money from conflict. Now, there are fabulous family law attorneys that I have met in this process, not only that I've known most of my life here in Southern California, but in Northern California.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And it's been pretty quick to pick up again. I think some of that has been the help of our friends at LegalZoom, but also been quick to pick up because people, look, they're not leaving their houses. They're doing everything online. So when you order all your Christmas gifts online and they show up, exactly. And you do your banking. And so then you're like, well, why wouldn't I just do this? I don't have to see him in person. I don't have to go to a lawyer. Most of the time at my firm sit across the table things. Yeah, the thing like from wedding crashers or Rebecca de Morten says, don't you open your mouth? Don't you talk to me? And he's like, wait, what?”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At least not as an attorney because How But not as a lawyer. We don't give you legal advice. Talk a bit about getting to more states and globally. Because presumably you've got people, one get used to the idea of doing it digitally, doing something like that, which they do everything else digitally.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I can't. I can only practice in California, but you don't need a lawyer to get divorced on its over-ease. So you don't have to have any interaction with me at all, at least not as an attorney, because it's kind of a mom and pop shop. I will sometimes be up in the middle of the night on the phone with somebody going, no, you need to push this. And this is how you can get back into the system or whatever, but not as a lawyer. We don't give you legal advice.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because out of everything else that I'm very good at, tech is not one of those things. So I've had to hire outside people to come up with the tech and get us up to speed so that we can download the forms from other states. I also don't know the law in all the other shit.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What's coming along? We launched in January. We have completed, I think, over 300 divorces thus far. So that's 11 months.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Well, the forms, I mean, really, most of the states have boiled it down on forms. There is a couple of pages that will have to help you write up in some states. Yeah, for the most part. Yes.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Together, if you hit a wall, we also, because of the index, which is our referral, you can go meet a mediator that you hire that has nothing to do with our site, but we'll refer you to him or her, spend an hour or two with somebody really talking through the benefits of parochial school versus public school versus private non-denomination, whatever. Go through that, see if you can figure it out. And if you can, great, then you go back to site, you figure out what you've put in there, where the kids are going, legal custody, et cetera, and you find you.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, Right. I mean, I think the way it's been done, I want to talk about it in the next section, has been the analog way it's been done does promote not getting lined. It's interesting that tech could be a solution for that. Are there any glitches that happen on the site then? So people just have to agree and then you have to click together.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Rays really well adjusted kids, hand their financial matters, have everybody for Thanksgiving, sometimes do a bit of a family vacation, you know, crossover together and have a really good, meaningful life where your kids have a lot of people that love them and care about them.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because I do believe that there is an easier way to do it, I wrote a book in 2013. I guess that was my foray because I have so many friends that have nowhere nearer the money that my clients have who've said to me, what have you seen? What have you learned? What do you know? And this has always been my theory, which is this is an offender bender. You're going to know this person probably for the rest of your life. Better figure out a way to get along with he or she because you're going to walk down the aisle, go to college graduations, be in the delivery room. I watched my parents do it in the most respectful, civilized, wonderful way. And I've watched them as an adult with my kids and what I've done. That's what I preach. And that's what I practice. I have two kids with two different dads. We don't have a piece of paper between us. Now, again, I don't recommend that. I can do it because I'm a family law attorney and because of the relationships we have are very special. But I know it's possible. I know it's possible to get through this.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So then that's it. Then you don't have to do all that. You don't have to visit anyone and stuff like that. So, why did you think this was an area right? Just because it's such an onerous way to live, essentially, or to divorce?”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then what? And then depending on which package, we have a $750 package of $1,500 package and a $2,500 package. All right, we'll explain. Okay. The more you pay, and again, none of them's more than $2,500, the more we do for you in terms of taking your documents, taking them to the courthouse, getting them filed, paying your fees. You want to do it yourself? Give us the $750. We'll give you the forms. You still have access to the full site, but you're going to be going to court. You're going to be serving the documents, et cetera. For the full premier package, the 2500, we pay those court fees. We serve your spouse. Again, it's not going to be jumping out of the bushes. Ha ha, you're served because he or she's going to know we're coming because you're on the same page. And then it gets done. And then you're divorced.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why'd you buy? I don't know. I picked a really far place that I've never been to before. I've New Jersey. Okay. Or New Jersey. All right. Okay. Or incarcerated. We have some of those, which is hard to get together with a mediator in prison. Yeah, you work well for prison divorces. Yes. All right.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, yeah. Why'd you buy? I don't know. I picked a really far place that I've never been to before. I've New Jersey. Okay. Or New Jersey, or incarcerated. We have some of those, which is hard to get together with a mediator in prison. Yeah,”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All digital. I mean, you could beat in person and do it together, but you can literally do it when one person's here and another person's in Dubai. Exactly. And you can flag if you didn't get the same answers. One person said Dubai.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To join or to join. Right. And then you will exchange the information, which in all states is absolutely mandatory. You must exchange, you must disclose. You have declarations of disclosure. Here's what I have or what we have. Here's what I owe or what we owe. Here's what I make. And here's what I spend. So there's four corners of it. Okay. That has to happen in any divorce. You have to exchange that information. Long-term marriages, it's all the same. You've been married this long. You have this much money, you have this many assets. You owe this much to the bank. Here's what we make. Here's what we spend. So you exchange that information. You come to terms with it. Some person says, no, no, no. There's no way that that house is your house. We got that house together. No, we got that house when I was about to marry you, but we hadn't married. So you hashed that out on the side.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And like you discovered when you guys went through mediation, if you kind of have to come to the table and solve your problems on your own, which in divorce, you're best equipped to do. You know your kid's better than any judge is going to know them. You know your finance is better or you will get to know your finances better. Sit down with a legal pet, figure it out, plug it into the site, move on.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're a rich person. Wait a minute. You can't just split the baby, so to speak. Well, a lot of what happens in digital is taking people taking advantage of getting rid of the friction that was always there, whether it's music or anything else.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, no. In fact, you're a rich person. Wait a minute. What it is, is, again, if you have more money, more problems. If you have more assets, if you have a very complicated income stream of companies or commingling assets or even child custody stuff, it's not easy to figure out what's going to happen if you got two kids in California and the other parent wants to live in New York. You can't just split the baby, so to speak. So those are going to be complicated, but to the extent that people can figure it out themselves, they should. I'm not worried about continuing the legacy of this family law firm. We're going to be fine. But I do believe that the majority of people, rich and poor.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not trying to destroy it. There will always be a need for people who can handle complex litigation, complicated if there's a move away case. You can't just differentiate.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, everybody has the same price. Okay. Everybody has the same price. It's an hourly rate. And I believe that for the past seven years, I've been 850 an hour and I was told by my partners that they really think I need to up it to nine. And I think, God, I hope I say something that's really fucking smart for 900 an hour.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, yes. My guess is they probably already knew things weren't going well and had decided to get divorced. I have people call my office at my firm all the time and say, look, I love you, but you're too expensive for my assistant or my sister or whoever.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's one that's that I wrote content. One of the things I wrote is co parenting with an asshole. Basically. And so because people, even whether they've already been divorced or not, if somebody's not doing things the way you do them, then it doesn't seem right to you. And I find that happens, especially with us moms. We want to do it the way we want to do it. We want to control it. Then we want to complain about the fact that they're not doing it the right way. They don't drink their milk at his house. They don't brush their teeth at his house. They don't go to time. Okay, but they're still having a relationship with their other parent. That's probably more important. Right. So there's a blog about that. Then I've got people that are financial wizards who have said, like, I see dumb it down for normal people. They're not going to pay your alley rate. Write me an article about what you should be doing to prepare for getting divorced, what you should be putting aside, what you should be thinking about, how much you should be spending, etc. Anyway, so they can read about it. They get familiar. They want to do it. Fine, whatever, and then they will fill out their petition, which is the first step. They invite their partner to join. This really is a mediation site.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You get on the set and you play around a little bit. You want to read about a blog, you want to read about somebody that has”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of it more though. We have a partnership with LegalZoom. People go on Legal Zoom in New York and California right now, and they just are automatically. And legal explain what Legal Zoom is for. Legal Zoom is a site that is the biggest, I think, tech law psych. So if you need a will, you can go on. It provides templates. You fill it in. You submit it, employment contracts, LLCs. It has been very difficult for them to get into the family law world because, as you said, it is really complicated. There does need to be a little bit more of an”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With people that write blogs and contribute and talk about things that have happened to them and professionals that do financial planning or co-parenting planning, all that kind of stuff. So you can actually get a little educated about it. Then we have people on the other end that can kind of talk you through it if you need some help. We don't give legal advice, but we can say this is what this form means. Here's what date of separation means in your state. All kinds of pop-ups of me talking, you know, YouTube, video-esque style, explaining things. And then we also have a third component to the site, which is like a referral directory called the index. Because the other thing is that I have found doing this is it doesn't end when you're divorced. And I sign my thing saying bye-bye, thanks for the money. They need people to help them with nanning. They need people to help them with moving. They need people with helping them figuring out their budget. And then they need people to help them get back into the dating world again. So we provide all that. using your site for a divorce because again this is not something people think of as a digital area i think they are thinking”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who has Wednesday nights? If you can agree on who has Wednesday nights, come to me. I'll write it up. It's not going to cost a lot of money or better yet. Write it up yourselves. I'll show you where to put it on the form. Submit it to the court. Done. So one of the ways that it had been done with innovations in legal is mostly just hearer forms and it's still incomprehensible. Here are the easy forms for a contract. Here's the easy forms for a lease. Here's the easy forms for, and divorce would be something nobody would think of doing in an online space. I think people have thought of doing it, but it's been too difficult. There is also that kind of human touch aspect. Some people, most people want to know that there's somebody on the other end of the phone line computer pad, whatever it is. That doesn't mean that they necessarily want to pay to Valley Park and come up to a consultation in my office for $800 or $900 per hour. There has to be a happy medium. So when we came up with its over-easy, rather than just being a form provider, we also have a whole education.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“File the paperwork and say, this is our deal, it's done. You still have to wait six months before a judicial officer will stamp it and it'll be done. I often tell clients and users if it's over easy, don't worry about that. Get it done. Unless you're planning to marry somebody else so quick, just in your mind, you're done and you've gotten it done. Other states are much quicker. New York state is 30 days from the day that you sign the final papers. As we've all heard, Nevada is super quick. What I want it to be more about is what the parties have decided that they want to do. There has to be an exchange of information that makes sense. The forms are super complicated. We've tried to make them less complicated. If you use a mediator or somebody that's doing collaborative divorce, somebody that can help you get through it and explain what all of these very complicated forms basically mean, the bottom line is it's not that difficult. What people have to remember is that family law attorneys make money from conflict. That's right. That's right. So, I mean, if you, and I say that to you all the time, guys, I make more money if you can't agree on.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Takes years. Talk a little bit about that Well, again, this is a system that is broken and it's broken in the legal system. And so when I was turning 50 and I was looking at my career and how it had gone and really having enjoyed it, I thought you have two choices. You go legislature or you go some kind of tech app that can hopefully fix it. And I'm the first way seemed also how long does it take to get divorce? Because getting my divorce was ridiculous and we had no problems. It was a ridiculously long time. California, which is where you guys got divorced, it takes six months. We have a six-month waiting period. So even if you walk in.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I got to know him or her very well. We had children. And now what do we do to not necessarily be sleeping in the same bed every night, but to continue being partners as co-parents and perhaps with some of our financial issues as well? And so where's that from? Because it's also quite, the reason it's done so well is because it's done in a way that's so analog. It's so lugubrious and slow.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then at the beginning of last year, I realized, or before that, I realized, but last year we launched It's Oveasy, which is an online divorce site, which I am hoping will kind of change not only the way people go through their divorces, but how we approach divorce itself. Well, let's talk about how we approach it previously. Talk about that a little bit about what the crappily. Crappily. You know, it's one of these. Go ahead. It's sure, crappily. Poorly. Kraptassic. It's, you know, the way that we look at it is this horrible taboo failure, miserable. And look, it's not fun. And it's not easy, as I say, even though the company's called it's over easy. But what it is is something that's happened to about half of the people we know who are married, in which case we kind of have to accept that it is happening. And how can we do it better for ourselves and most particularly for our kids? So looking at it in a way as, hey, this was a time period of my life. I was romantically and intimately involved with this personal.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Industry and the entertainment industry, you get to learn about a lot of people that you never would have any occasion to meet. Stevie Wonders, like someone I call a close friend, whether it's political, whether it's financial, whether it's entertainment-based, you really delve into these people's lives for about six to 12 months, and then you're out. But it's super cool. And I found a niche and I liked it, and I've done it for about 25 years.”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Has been slow too. Yes, we have been very besides using various document stuff and things like that. So we're going to talk about that and more with Laura. So give me your background. You started where. How did you get into this line of work? I started here. I'm from Southern California. My dad is a family law attorney. And although if you had asked me when I was a teenager, do you think you'll ever be A, a lawyer, B, a family law attorney, I would have just said, oh God, never, never, never, never. But I actually got divorced after about 14 months of marriage when I was 25, and I was waiting for my bar results and I needed the dough. So I went to my dad. I said, can I clerk for your firm while I'm waiting for my bar results? And I never left because it's actually a fascinating field of law. You really get to know about somebody, about human nature, about how somebody is. And when you do it in this...”
2019-01-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Attorney Laura Wasser · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT