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Laverne Cox

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“I work really hard to make sure my mental health is in a place where I can be of service. And if I have been a service in my life, if I can be of service in this moment that feels like part of me fulfilling my higher powers plan for me. So I'm grateful.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Democrats have to let me say this the Democrats have to reckon with the relationship between campaign how our campaigns are financed, particularly in primaries, but in general how beholden we are to those donors and then doing the will of the people. These things are not they're in conflict. Getting money from corporate entities who want to deregulate and defund everything and doing the will of the people who are most struggling. These things are in conflict. And so if the Democratic Party Months to win. I don't know if they sometimes don't even know if they want to win.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Her not talking about race was a problem as well. I think you're not going to get the, I mean, obviously she won the majority of black people. Democrats always do, but historically, the majority of white people since LBJ, since 1964, have voted Republican.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But again, I always want to focus on the because we are what we focus on, right? If I sort of put my energy into the, and I think that's it, but I also think that's part of what Democrats have been doing is trying to focus their energy on the positive. I mean, Kamala Harris said nothing about it. She didn't mention transgender people at all, right? And I think ultimately strategically that was a mistake.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are, and I have to say, there are a lot of amazing lesbians and feminists, but there is a turf movement as well. Yes, oh, I agree.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Trans people, what gives me hope are trans people and community. I think now looking at the history of just marginalized and oppressed people in general as a black person, we have always found ways as black folks is LGBTQ plus folks. Our identities have been criminalized before in this country. And we found community, we found ways to mutual aid to support each other. And so... We will find a way. We will make a way and we will figure it out. And this is an opportunity for us to hopefully, even as we may disagree within community, to come together and understand that the right wing is not distinguishing between non-binary and trans, between gay and trans. Between bisexual and trans. They want all of us gone. And so hopefully this will inspire us to come together and celebrate each other's humanity.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“me needing to leave or I mean I think my another concern that I have is as a high profile trans person how if my identity is fully criminalized like as a high profile person does that make me even more of a target so I'm going to have to assess all of those things around when it may or may not be time to leave i love america by the way i'm i'm i'm deeply patriotic i traveled all over the world and whenever i get back to america i'm so happy i love this country i have issues with policy and and many things but i love america i love america what gives me hope um”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think, and I'll probably still work here. I think it's for me, it's about how if you read Project 2025 and I see how much, and they have, it's a 180 day agenda, how much agenda they can get done quickly, I think if you look again historically, if there's a moment when they start putting undocumented or even documented immigrants in camps to do mass deportation, and then if that is coinciding with any kind of gender affirming national ban, they wanted to do drag bans in certain states. So I think that'll be the moment of”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Say Panama. I know. They're not on the list. I've done a lot of All that stuff. So we're basically, we're getting the exit plan ready to go. And I think it's really going to be about you.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have to be delicate around them moving out of the country thing. I only say I was contemplating it. And we've done extensive research about, I know what country, I'm not going to say, I know what country I'm going to go to. We're”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ethnic notions from Marlon Riggs' iconic documentary. They looked at the history of black representation in cinema. And so how cinema, how media representation is used as primarily words and images to dehumanize. So then how can we use primarily words and images to humanize? And I think Clean Slate, because it's not a perfect person, but she is human. And she's struggling. And I hope people, I think we can, I know I connect with people when I understand they're struggling. When I understand how they're struggling, because then I'm like, oh, that's me too. Like sometimes I, you know, like I live for Beyonce, you know, and Beyonce's done a good job of like being a goddess, but also saying that she struggles, that she has those, you know, giving birth and all the things. So it's about humanity. It's about how do we constantly move into the space of, and I would invite everybody when they're watching the news, when they're...”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've never been an advocate of positive versus negative representation. I've been an advocate of humanized representation. Human beings are flawed. Understanding someone's humanity means and loving them anyway means that understanding that they're flawed, that they had, that there are things that they might be struggling with. And the struggle is actually what makes us human. Just being a respectable person who's above reproach is not relatable. That's not human. Human beings struggle. So it's really about human representations and then having, and I think when it comes to trans representations specifically, having an understanding of the history of the tropes that would dehumanize, like you mentioned cellular closet, which was a huge influence on our film disclosure, if people are interested in, you know, what not to do with trans representation, they should watch disclosure. But we also have”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So a lot of it's about generational things, but ultimately it's about family. And I rewatched the show All Eight episodes at once. And it's a wholesome show. It's really funny. Wholesome. George Wallace is a comedy legend. And he is hilarious in the show, but he's also really touching. This is also Norman Lear's last family comedy, the legendary Norman Lear. Legendary before he died. So we have to shed our Norman Lear and him believing in this project. And we pitch this everywhere, even with Norman Lear. We got so many no's. But he and Bret Miller pushed and got this show to Amazon Prime. And we premiere February 6th.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's about him getting reacquainted with his daughter. She's an older woman. She's had a life in New York. But it's also about her healing her childhood trauma. She, like me, found she was constantly in relationships with unavailable men. And so in her therapy, she realizes she needs to go back to the first unavailable man in her life, which is her dad. And so it's about healing, but then it becomes a lot of the comedy comes from them trying to live together. I mean, the generational thing with two different generations trying to connect this woman who's lived in New York for 23 years and now coming back to Alabama. So this like, you know, very urban, almost new age. She meditates.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A lot of it, I'll leave it to your imagination what really happened. A lot of it, and it's, so this is a dream, a dream of 15, 20 years. I produced a lot of documentary and non-scripted work. This is the first time I've produced something that scripted that I star in that I co-write. So this is the realization of a, you know, a dream 20 years in the making. So Desiree has moved away from home, Alabama at the age of 17 because she was being bullied and it just wasn't safe for her. She goes to New York and 23 years later she comes back home and her dad, Harry, has not heard from her, doesn't know that she's transitioned. So she sort of shows up and she's like, hi, I'm your daughter. And the show is about them reconnecting. She ends up living with him. So the”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Parents be taken away from their kids. If you can live stealth, it's safety. Stealth has always been about safety. It's not an option for everybody, though. Everybody can't be cis assumed. If that is an option for you, I would say do it until you can be safe. There are a lot of parents who are fleeing these states, and access to gender-affirming care is because of these bans is really difficult, particularly in the South. The campaign for Southern Equality for a number of years now, they have a scholarship fund to help and they have resources to help families get access to gender-forming care. What's the closest state you can go to? Scholarships to relocate campaign for cell inequality. So if you can relocate, that's not, I mean, very privileged people can relocate. Who can relocate? The trans kids who have access to gender affirming care often very privileged. It's very few working class trans kids who are actually having access. And that's an issue.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've been advising that I know I have very close friends who have trans kids. If your child can be stealth, I would say be stealth. Would say that because it's just too unsafe. I don't want. I don't want us to be killed. I don't want us to be murdered. I don't want.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More feminine and probably more cis assumed when trans kids are allowed to transition, they're able to more effectively. I met a trans girl. She's a model. She's a supermodel. Actually, I had been looking at her on the runway for years and had no idea she was trans. And she was able to transition as a child. And so the ability to be able to go through life and be cis assumed actually creates more safety for trans people. So we did to disclose when we want to as opposed to people being able to tell and us experiencing violence because violence is people commit violence against trans people. So I think it's ridiculous. I think the quality of life of trans people who are able to transition as kids is so much.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is what it is. But what happens when you await till adulthood, all the things that happen with puberty that the voice drops, that testosterone hits the body and this masculinizing process happens for trans boys, they might develop breast tissue, all those things can like be, you cannot have those things happen if you stop that puberty that is not consistent with how you identify. My voice wouldn't be this deep if I got to have puberty blockers as a young person, my transition wouldn't have been as difficult. I would be”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm always jealous of the beginning. I was so jealous. I was like, what would my life have looked like? I think for waiting to you till adulthood is a huge, huge problem, right? In terms of, I mean,”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“False, false, false. It actually harms kids, policing kids in their gender. I said earlier hurts all children. All the studies say that suicidality goes down when trans kids are affirmed, when they have love from their parents. The right wing has just done such an egregious job of like saying that suicide goes up, which is insane. All the legitimate studies say that We are happier, healthier, less likely commit suicide when our gender is affirmed, when we have love and support in society. It's when we're discriminated against that our lives become difficult when we're not allowed to be ourselves.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But if you look at the data, false, false, false. And if honestly, less than 1%, less than 2% is really successful when you actually think about it. When you think about just healthcare in general and all the complications that can happen from surgery or any kind of medication, medical treatment, we're doing really well.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fault all the legitimate data. One study says less than 1% regret transition. Another study says less than 2%. So if we, the most generous thing, it's less than 2% of trans people regret surgery or transition. I think as 14% of people regret knee surgery, right? Less than 2% of trans people regret. And this study actually came from trans young people, right? Specifically over following them, over like about a decade, I think it was the study. So false, false, false, it's, again, they amplify one or two stories of people who have regret to...”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And years ago, I shared this video from a woman. I do remember Debbie Jackson, and she talked about this. She was like, the idea is that like, you know, these parents are liberal. She was like, I'm a conservative. I voter for, I vote Republican. I go to church every Sunday. I'm a Christian. And there's a group of actual Christian moms in the South who found a way to support their trans kids. So there's a lot of conservative parents who have to reckon with the survival of their children and it's hard for them. And a lot of conservative parents are deciding that they'd rather have an alive trans kid than a dead. Child”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. And if you look at how many cis kids get gender affirming care, nose jobs, boob jobs before they're 18, like there is, that's happening a lot more than trans people having care.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not just Republicans. Many Democrats have prescribed to that idea as well. False. And what a new study just came out this week. They looked at the children who access insurance. Less than one-tenth of 1% of the kids from ages, I think 7 to 17,”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's insanely difficult to access. If it was so easy, my girlfriends and I were joking. Girl, if I could go to school and then come back, I mean, where was that? Getting access, getting access to healthcare in general in this country is really difficult. And getting access to gender affirming care, I mean, we can talk. I've traveled the country in rural areas. It's extremely difficult to get access to gender-affirming care. Extremely difficult. And insurance isn't often cover it. It's also very expensive.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“False. Junior affirming care often is just therapy, especially for a pre-pubescent child. It's just therapy. And maybe it's a name change and a presentation, maybe growing your hair out or cutting your hair and affirming the gender that someone identifies with. Before puberty, no one's like getting any surgery or.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Children, but only for adults, effectively in Florida. There is a ban on gender affirming care for adults because the law introduced a law saying that only doctors can administer gender affirming care in Florida when 80% of trans people in Florida get their gender affirming care from nurse practitioners. So 80% of Florida residents who are trans can no longer have access to gender firming care in that state. It's like one of the trap laws with abortion. This is what they want to do nationally. They don't want us to exist as trans people. And I believe them and I believe and they have created a cultural climate where they're going to be able to do it.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This case is so interesting to me on so many levels because right now in DeSantis and the Republican Party in general want parental rights and education, right? A lot of the Don't say gay bill was about parental rights, right? So the parents should be able to decide what their kids are being taught so they're not indoctrinated into something. But then when it comes to parents' rights with their trans children, the parents should not have the right. Not right, the hypocrisy, but Republicans don't care about hypocrisy. Like they don't care. But I think that is important to note. I think, again, what this does, if you read Project 2025, if you listen to conservatives and what they want to do, when Michael Knoll says we want to ban transgenderism from public life, ultimately it's not been just about the kids, right? I think this is the beginning of a national ban for gender-affirming care, not only for”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Happened on Clinton's watch. Correct. The repeal of Glass-Steagall was huge and just the neoliberal sort of corporatization of everything is really, and then there's so much about money and politics too. Some of those policies were changed under Reagan. That's what I would change.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A lot of this really began with Nixon. I would suggest the crime stuff when we think about the Morningham report, but so many things were solidified around education and like really defunding education, the trickle-down thing, the welfare queen stuff, the war on drugs. So much happened around regulation. If you think about antitrust, Bork, I mean, just so many things because when Reagan was so Successful, that also prompted the Democratic Party to shift more to the center. The Clinton, when we look back at the Clinton administration, it was hardly a progressive administration, right? And so many things around his legacy, when we thinking about DOMA and Donetsk Don't tell, but also the repeal of Glass-Steagall.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Chase is so brilliant. He asks difficult questions. I love Chase. I love hearing his voice. It's really interesting how my nervous system shifted when I heard Chase's voice. We've been siblings in a fight, but I love him so much. And he's such an incredible human being. So it's just regulating our nervous systems right now is also really important. One historical thing that I would change and why, oh my goodness. This is just off the top of my head. Right. I've never contemplated this question before in my life. Reagan being elected. I would change Reagan being elected. It could even be Nixon, but I think Reagan was really a huge, huge, huge problem.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To gender expectations within a binary. Those trans people have existed. Trans people have existed, right? And I Think that's internalized transphobia, and that's work that we should be doing on ourselves. And I do believe that we should be doing the work to dismantle the gender binary because I think it harms everybody. I think all those white men who are feeling alienated. And a lot of it is about the gender binary and them not being able to live up to what that gender binary means. None of us can live up to it. I don't care.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, that's not, I mean, that's just not factually correct. I mean, if someone wants to oppress you, they're going to oppress you. And what I think what we have to understand about the right wing now is that the truth does not matter. Kamala Harris was not this bleeding liberal. She just wasn't. She was a former prosecutor. She served in the Biden administration, which is very, although they did some great stuff on labor, it's pretty, you know, corporate Democrat, centrist. She's her centrist, but they painted her as this communist. They painted Obama as a socialist communist. So it doesn't matter what you do. They're going to make up stuff and they're going to lie about you. So then what does it mean to be in the truth? What are our values? And there are lots of trans people have never been a monolith. And there's some trans people who've always had issues because of our own internalized transphobia around people who are non-binary, people who don't conform.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I love Actup as There are many trans people who are wanting to throw non-binary people under the bus and saying that us being, that is trans people's fault for allowing non-binary people, a seat at the table around transness, and I completely disagree.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What is so sad is that Democrats have been reactive and not proactive. The left has not been proactive enough in terms of creating counter-narratives. And I really think that we, for me, it's about humanizing people. It's about a rehumanizing process. If we start to look at this in all of our politics in the lens of dehumanization versus rehumanization, how do we humanize individuals and people and change the language from culture war to human rights and civil rights? Then if we can start to frame these issues on our terms and on the terms around truth.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That everyone capitulates to power where the dehumanization of large swaths of people is normalized and they have normalized dehumanizing trans people, dehumanizing immigrants is so deeply normalized.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is actually what's happening. If we just really look at it, that is what's happening. And what ultimately what Zuckerberg is doing is conceding to power. I think the difference between Trump's election the first time and Trump's election this time is that there was a resistance, there was a women's march. People were like, we're going to fight against this. Now everybody's like, well, this is who's in power. And he's been very clear. Anyone who dissents, he's going to like, you know, sort of get rid of them or, you know, shoe them. Sue them, charge them criminally. People are lining with power. And I think the really important thing to understand about fascism is that this is how fascism”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“LGBTQ plus people not calling us mentally ill. I'm not dead naming us, being able to just say all sorts, make up all sorts of lies about us, basically. Like what they've been doing rather effectively to allow that Is basically to concede to every single lie that the Republican Party has been telling about trans people over the past four years. And if you have an issue with the lie and you want to actually tell the truth and if you want to acknowledge the humanity of LGBTQ plus people, you're politically biased.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It actually reminds me of a debate that an excerpt from a debate on Tim Poole's show. This is probably like five or six years ago before the Musk rule on Twitter, now X. Misgendering with something that was not allowed on Twitter at the time. And Tim Poole's argument was that that was that that biased Conservatives because conservatives didn't believe in misgendering, right? Conservatives don't believe that some conservatives don't believe that trans people exist. So their argument was that it was a liberal bias. And so what Zuckerberg seems to be conceding is that in the language in his announcement, he said often our fact-checkers had political bias. And so again, that is conceding to a right-wing framing around human rights and civil rights and respecting people to make honoring the dignity of”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It affects all women because none of us is really woman enough. But I cannot divorce that from the fight for reproductive rights and bodily autonomy, the connecting it to the Christian nationalist agenda of making the man the head of the household outlawing no fault divorce. That's happening at the same time that we're attacking reproductive rights. So all of these things are connected around restoring order, the sort of gender binary order that is also tied to heterosexism and tied to traditional family. So all of these things are connected.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And she cut her hair short. And then there was this big hubbub because people thought that like a trans girl was playing sports and it wasn't fair. So what happens with all of this transphobia and policing gender and banning attempting to ban us from sports and bathrooms is that”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's funny and it's not funny because it's so ridiculous, right? Like, so then what happens and what it's always happened is that then these transphobia only doesn't just affect trans people. There's so many cis women or non-trans women, whatever language you prefer. Some people have issues with the term cis, but non-trans women who identify as women who might not conform to someone's idea of what a woman should look like and they're being policed in bathrooms. They're being confronted and saying you're not supposed to be in here. You're not a woman. There was an incident last year where a grandfather who was going to watch his granddaughter play was like, why is that boy playing? And it turns out that it was not a trans girl that she had just gotten a pixie cut.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I try not to succumb to fear. I've traveled to Florida a few times in the past year for work. There's a little bit of anxiety. And I mean, the problem with the bathroom issue is the enforcement, right? Like, is there going to be sort of a bathroom monitor outside, bathrooms everywhere, just sort of enforce that? But it does create a system where we have gender police. We sort of deputize citizens to be gender police and go on trans investigations. It's, I mean, the transigations are, it's funny, but it's hilarious and it's scary.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who is carrying this fertilized egg fetus? If you believe in a personhood, life begins at conception, what of the person who has the fertilized egg in them? Are they no longer a person? That language even having the conversation in that frame starts from a dehumanized place. Automatically, once there's a fertilized egg inside of me, I no longer have control over my body. I'm no longer human. Just the way we've been talking about abortion for. Is deeply dehumanizing. So, so much of what we must do, those who are progressive, left-leaning, believe injustice and inequality, we must not concede to right-wing framing of our issues. And that's been the big struggle for me around talking about trans issues, that not conceding to the way having the conversation on their terms and their framing.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Even I think we've faltered, I may be wrong on this, but this is something I've been thinking about, so I'll run it by you. When I think it's deeply dehumanizing in reproductive rights conversations, when I see often men talking about, well, how many weeks should it be before the baby can be aborted? Is it viability? Is it six weeks? Is it 15 weeks, 24 weeks? And it's like these conversations about weeks just takes out the fact that there is a human being.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is very important, primarily words and images to take one specific group of people and move them into the space of moral exclusion, meaning that us as human beings, we're not hardwired to do harm to each other. But if we can make that group of people not human anymore, put them in the space of moral exclusion, then we can commit harm against them, then we can take away their rights, commit violence against them, and we see the dehumanization with immigrants. We've seen it with black people since for decades, centuries rather, women. So even the abortion conversation. So what I...”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is, I said it already, and I believe this is the truth. The Trojan horse of sports Trans people in sports. Well, that's not fair. We believe in fairness and things have to be fair. And that People don't believe that trans women are women. That created a permission structure to demonize trans people, to dehumanize trans people. And once you can dehumanize a population, you can then take away their rights Commit violence against them. And so dehumanization is at the heart of this. When I talk about dehumanization, I love to allude to Brene Brown's work on this in her book, Braving the Wilderness, when she talks about dehumanization, she says that dehumanization is a process using primarily words and images.”
2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On surgery, the surgical transition from Christine Jorgensen and the narrative really didn't change much through my chagrin and all the work that I've done, so much of my work in the public eye about trying to change the narrative around trans people away from surgery and transition because that necessarily dehumanizes us.”
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