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Laverne Cox

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  1. I think it's been effective because still, even with the increased visibility of trans people, a lot of people still don't personally know someone who's trans. A lot of people still, even when they were accepting, didn't fully understand trans identity and where the right wing is focused on transition and sports, people don't know anything about trans healthcare. And it's really none of their business. Honestly, if you're not a trans person or have a trans child, trans healthcare is really not your business. But the lack of, I actually said this is Sam Fader, who directed disclosure. The narrative around trans people since Christine Jorgensen, who was the first globally famous trans person who became famous in 1952, the headline was G.I. Turns into Blonde Jane, the emphasis was

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. An amazingly effective job of demonizing, dehumanizing trans people. I mean, I think we have to also understand that trans people, it was just a few years, right? So there hadn't been a gender revolution in the country where people had thought differently about gender. So we were just getting started. And it was a very coordinated strategy, mostly from Alliance Defending Freedom, but heritage foundation and all these other organizations. They get on the same page. They get all the talking points, and they just pound them over and over and over again all over the internet, all over right-wing media. So they've been really effective in their propaganda campaign to demonize us, make it seem like...

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. The right wing hits through propaganda, really affected propaganda and rhetoric across multiple platforms have created a permission structure to dehumanize trans people and scapegoat us. And that is. Indeed, a direct response to unprecedented visibility of trans people that started arguably with Orange's new black transparent pose, a lot of social media influences who are trans, and a media that was open and accepting and in a country that was open and accepting to trans people. And just really 2020 was when it really got going. In just four now five years, they've done

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. You thought the government couldn't get anything done. Great work, lawmakers. Thanks for making sure schools don't teach about sexual orientation or gender identity because pretending trans kids don't exist means they disappear just like pretending climate change doesn't exist means it disappears too. So I guess we'll never know why my tits are sweating in December.

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. This whole idea of the unitary executive theory is about a white Christian nationalism that places the man at the head of the household and subjugates everybody else. So nothing out trans people, taking away women's rights, getting rid of black people or putting them in jail is part of the program. It's not a distraction. It is part of what they want to do.

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. That was not the top thing that people were voting on. If you look at exit polls, people are not, that's not the top. Trans people are, it's not the top issue that people are voting on. Democrats and people on the left say that the right wing uses culture war issues, and I wish we would lose that language. I think culture war is not useful. I think we should use language civil rights and human rights. Culture war diminishes the leftist and democrats say that these issues are a distraction. And I... Need to lose that as well because it's not a distraction. If you read Project 2025, if you read this recent op-ed from Josh Hawley, it is part of the program, the Heritage Foundation and Lions Defending Freedom. They are deeply transphobic, deeply homophobic, misogynist.

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. Then I also think that at the end of the day, what as far as the trans question or the trans part in relationship to the election

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  8. Have to turn out our base. So around the trance, the question around the trans piece is that, I mean, AOC said it brilliantly, is that the end of the ad said, therefore, they them, Trump is for us. And so it created us in them literally, in the ad. And Trump gives the veneer of being for the people. And the Republican Party does cater to their base.

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  9. Okay, so I think when you look at this new data out that ultimately Trump did not gain A larger percentage of the voting population. No, he didn't. What happened is that Democrats and left-leaning people stayed home. So what happened ultimately with the

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  10. Trojan horse to create a permission structure to discriminate against trans people, and then they're coming after the children. And then so then you've already created this thing around trans people if they're unfair, they're not really human beings, they're like dominating in sports. And then we have to protect the children. And now we're in a position where Know during a presidential election, it is stunning to me that $215 million would spent in anti-trans ads on network TV alone. So this is not including the internet or streaming.

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  11. It didn't work the first time. And so I think what people should understand is that what was brilliant in terms of like dehumanizing and strategy from the right wing is that they literally focus groups on what issue around trans folks upset you the most in trans people in sports was the Trojan horse. And so then, I mean, if you look back four years ago, there were hundreds of segments run on Fox News about trans people in sports. You would think that we were dominating in sports and people weren't paying attention. And so they slowly created through propaganda a permission structure to demonize trans people through sports. And sports is a great gateway as well because we're immediately talking about bodies, performance, hormone levels. And so when we're talking about people's bodies, we objectify and when we objectify, we can dehumanize. And so that became

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. How am I feeling? Feeling a lot of things, and for me, it's been very important to maintain a both and just for my own mental health, the understanding that we are in Harold in this country in a really profound way on so many different levels and that as a trans person, there has been a coordinated, well-funded campaign over the past now five years to dehumanize me and my community that has worked. And that dehumanization has led to 26 states banning gender affirm and care for young people. The Supreme Court is likely to do that when that decision comes down in June. 24 states banning trans people from sports when there's very few trans people actually playing sports. And it's likely, and now there are bathroom vans in states when we were able to defeat those bathroom bans in 2016.

    2025-01-13 · On with Kara Swisher · Laverne Cox on Meta, Conservatives and The Battle For Trans Rights · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT