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Lisa Dickey

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“The Soviets versus the Americans, that was a big thing. But in the 90s after the Soviet Union collapsed, everybody was like, okay, China, now we care about China. Now China's the other superpower, which is, there's another funny story where the guy who I was writing about in Nova Sabiris, this guy named Valera, he and I had a free night, and so we went to the movies in Nova Sabiris because of the fall of 2015. And we went to see the Martian. And in the Martian, there's this plot point where Matt Damon is stranded on Mars, and we need to get a rocket up there and we have a rocket explode. And oh my God, how are we going to get up in there in time? We have to ask another country for that.”
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“But then they didn't have, if you think about it from 1945 through the end of the Soviet Union, so for almost 50 years, we cared a lot about what the Russians did. Well, we did care all the time. Yeah, but we paid, look, they paid us space. Yeah, it was all that stuff. It was always.”
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“I said, well, that's kind of funny. I don't think we really think that, but whatever. Thank you. And so then, you know, a week later, I'm in a different city and another person says the same exact phrase to me. Americans all think we have bears wandering in the streets. Six different cities, six different people. Their version of Fox News. It must have been. I don't know. And so the biggest thing I think for them is they feel like we don't respect them. They feel like we don't pay attention to them. Well, now, of course, we're paying attention to Russia all the time. And I think that that makes them feel, and this is a gross exaggeration to say everybody, but I do think there is a certain segment of Russian society that does feel like, all right, now you're going to pay attention to us again, just like you did when it was two superpowers. Ben was back, you know. Yeah.”
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“And there was very much a feeling. So the title of the book bears in the streets speaks to a feeling that I encountered numerous times on this trip that Russians think that we don't respect them. So the title comes from the second day that I was there in the 2015 trip, a woman said to me, well, you Americans all just think that we have bears wandering around in the streets here. Meaning, well, I'll get to that. Because I think they do. So, you know, she says this to me, and I thought, oh, that's kind of funny, you know, meaning that we think that they're powerful, less sophisticated. Which had that problem?”
2017-07-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Lisa Dickey, author, 'Bears in the Streets' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, very heavy dislike of Obama, very heavy dislike of Hillary Clinton. Their feeling was just, I think their feeling was Russia gets screwed when Obama or Clinton are in office Know that was their feeling”
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“I was like, wait, how can you like Ronald Reagan? Like Ronald Reagan's the guy who tear down this wall. Exactly. She said what he meant. He was a strong man. And they like a strong man. Interesting. So did”
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“I mean, you hate, and then the husband said, Well, you know, it's never good for Russia when a Democrat is in office. And I said, all right, well, then, did you like George W. Bush? And then they're like, oh, God, no, we hated him too. He was terrible. And I said, well, are there any presidents that we had that you liked or admired? No Ronald”
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“Well, they hated him because most of the information that they get about him is from watching TV news and most TV news in Russia is controlled by the Kremlin. Right. And so what they're getting is a steady diet of, you know, I would say like, why do you dislike him? Well, because he's a liar, because he's sneaky, because he's, and I had a lot of people say this to me, and sort of towards the end, I had this conversation with a couple, and they kept saying that. They were like, oh, he's so awful. And all he does is lie, and you can't believe the word that he says. And then I said, all right, well, so.”
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“Well, you know what? It's funny in the fall of 2015 when I made this trip. I didn't really ask people about Trump because I never imagined that he would actually get the nomination much less be president. Right.”
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“The president was the president at this point. Yeah. And I would ask people what they thought about Obama, and they just were like, oh God, the faces they made. I had one guy say, I'm just embarrassed for you as a country that you could ever possibly elect such a man. And they were like, and they meant it. I mean, they were just.”
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“Yes, it was very easy this time around. It was super easy. I went back. I mean, the biggest worry that I had this time was that, you know, you've been seeing that, you know, anti-American sentiment was really high. They invaded Crimea and we had imposed sanctions and everybody was saying that the relations between the US and Russia were worse than they'd been since the Stalin era. So I was very nervous about going back, traveling by myself. But I didn't have any trouble at all, and I went back, and people were just as welcoming as they had been before. They had a lot to say about the American government and how they truly and vehemently dislike the American government, particularly Robert. So this is”
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“With a handwritten lever. You're expecting a donkey in there somewhere. There should have been. Right. You don't need to see them anymore All Facebook friends. Right. Is farmers on Facebook I see. Okay. He's on Instagram. Yeah, right. No. So you went back. So you go back with just your phone and just yourself and you found these same people.”
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“So he's like, oh, here's my dad's cell phone number. I'll call him and tell him you're coming. But the difference between going for three hours on a rickety bus with a handwritten letter expecting a donkey in there somewhere. There should have been a donkey. Yeah, but it was just so, and like, you know, I never thought I'd see any of these people again after 1995 because they all lived in the middle of nowhere. And why was I ever going to go back there? Now I'm Facebook friends with all of them. Right. I don't need to see them anymore. I know everything that's going on with everybody because we're all Facebook friends. Right. We can message each other and we're liking each other's farmers on Facebook. The farmer is not, but his son and his daughter. I see. Okay.”
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“Well, I did it through somebody who already had a profile on it. And he responded in like a half an hour. And he's like, oh my God, I can't believe you're back here. Call my dad here's his cell phone. Well, so now he's, you know, he's in, I guess he's probably like 30 something, about 11 or 12 when I first met him.”
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“So we had this crazy experience, and she hooked us up with this farmer and she drove us way out into the sticks, and we spent a couple days with this farmer. So fast forward now to 2015. So I'm with an Ulano Day with the same guy who 20 years ago recommended me to this Boriot woman who did all this for us. And I said, well, we're going to go back out and see the farmer again. And the guy's like, well, does he know you're coming? And I said, no. And he said, I really think you should get in touch with him. And I said, well, I don't have his phone number or anything. We're just going to show up. And he's like, I'm really uncomfortable with that. So how can we find him? And I was like, oh, I know. I'll look up his sons on Facebook. Oh, wow. Right. So his son was on Facebook. And I sent him a message and he didn't reply immediately. And then I was like, well, I don't know what to do. Oh, he's probably on contactia, which is the Russian version of Facebook. Explain that. Explain that. Contactia? Contactia, which means it's a red ball. It's in contact. It's a social media site.”
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“Those who are not geographical. It's in Siberia. Yeah, it's right just north of Mongolia. So we had said, Oh, we want to meet a farmer. And he said, okay, I think I know someone who can help you. So he had this colleague who was a Burriat woman who knew somebody who lived in a village like three hours away. So she wrote a hand-written letter in the Buryat language and said, get on this bus, go three hours, get off and ask for this woman by name. I don't know her street address, but it doesn't matter.”
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“And then also, this is kind of a funny story. In 1995, Gary and I had told this guy in Ulano Day that we wanted to meet a Buryat farmer. Ulanade is the capital of Buryatia, which is one of the republics.”
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“They were not as good, unfortunately. And this time around, I didn't, you know, I didn't do a website. I mean, this would have been so easy to blog or Instagram or do whatever it was. I didn't do any of that stuff. I was doing a book, and so I sort of kept it under wraps. But it was just so much easier this time. It was ridiculous. I mean, I could just FaceTime with people, you know, whereas before when I'm out on Lake Bai Call and I'm using that big clunky R began in 2005 trying to upload stuff”
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“So, yeah, so for the technology this time around, I did not bring a photographer. I thought, oh, I can just take my own pictures using my iPhone. Isn't that easy? Yeah.”
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“Yes, I would go like east to west on the Trans-Siberian and stop in at each of these 11 different cities and interview the same people that I had interviewed first in 1995 just to see how their lives have changed. So it's just like an in-depth look at how Russian people's lives, actual people's lives have changed over the past 20 years.”
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“Second time regular digital cameras, and we had a couple laptops, and we still had to double up on stuff because they didn't have Apple.”
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“It's a novel and it's about a guy who is being held in the Metropolitan Hotel in the early 1920s. His account and he's being held there because he's supposedly anti revolutionary. And it's just a really interesting character study. Again, I'm only about a third of the way into it, but it's really quite good.”
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“I said that Oh, right. What books should you listen to next? Well, I just picked up a gentleman in Moscow, and I'm about a third of the way in, and it's really, really good.”
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“And his story sort of got worse and worse as we went along, but I think farming is a difficult way to make living best of times, you know.”
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“But it was really interesting to see most people were so much better off in 2005 than they had been in 1995. There were only a couple who were not. There was a farmer who wasn't because he had lost his tax subsidies he had in the 90s.”
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“Had another tragic thing happen to me, got hit by a boss and was in a coma for a while, and then he came out of it. But then, you know, I went to go meet him at a train, at a metro stop. And he and I stood on the platform, the only two people on the platform for ages because neither of us recognized each other. Oh, wow. I was like, where is this guy? Where's this guy? And then I looked and I was like, oh my God, I think that's him because he had changed a lot, you know, because he'd had this accident happen.”
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“Oh, wow, well, I'll say a couple people had really dramatic bad things happen to them. There was one, one guy actually who was murdered and that was awful. That's bad. That was a terrible, very, very, very sad story. And then another guy was.”
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“People were getting their confidence back. People were feeling like, all right, we made it through the worst of it. Like the 90s pretty much sucked for Russian people. It was not a good time.”
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“Will so Russia in twenty fifteen was kind of in between? Not 2015, 2005, yeah, Russia seemed to be in a good place. Yeah, we'll get to that.”
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“Yeah, no, it's true. If you ask people here, what do you think of? What do you think of a Russian person? They'll say cold, unfriendly. And they certainly are to people they don't know necessarily. Like if you're walking down the street in Russia, you don't smile at everybody because they will think you're insane or they'll think you want something. Very, they don't really trust that. But when you're in a Russian person's home, it's just unbelievably, like, people are just so generous to us on this trip. If you think about it, right? Like if you're a farmer out the middle of wherever you are and two Russian people come knocking on the door and say, hey, we're a couple of Russian journalists and we'd like to write about you, you're probably not going to have them in for dinner and have them stay over. But this is what people did with”
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“An internet cafe. Yeah, it was so easy at that point to dial up, and it just was much, much, much easier on the second trip than it was. And this is a happy.”
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“Your laptops, what else? Digital camera, laptops. We had to still had to double up on everything because we were traveling with Apple computers and you can't buy Apple stuff in Russia in 2005. And actually we had a really disastrous moment where David accidentally knocked his laptop off of a chair. There was vodka involved. There was always vodka involved. No, he accidentally knocked it off and then it wouldn't start. And I was like, oh my God, like thinking, I'm literally going to have to fly out of the country into Western Europe, buy a laptop and bring it back because I don't know how else to do this. And then David somehow popped it open and fiddled with it and fixed it. And I still don't know how he did it. But we doubled up on software. We doubled up on the wires and stuff because there just was no way to buy anything that was made by Apple there.”
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“We brought a digital camera Yeah, much like a regular size camera. And then we also, like one of the sponsors of the trip was the satellite phone company. So they gave us a satellite phone and an RBAN satellite communicator. Do you remember that? Remember those? No. You hook it up and you basically, you hook it up to your laptop and then you can be anywhere. But it was like, I mean, it was so difficult to use, sorry company that sponsored us. But so we, you know, to show what it could do, we were out on a boat on Lake Bai Call and we were like, look, we're uploading photographs from our RBAN and we were out in a field in Buryatia with the farm around. Look, we're like out here with the cows and we're uploading this stuff. But it was so hard to use. We hardly used it at all, really.”
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“But by now, by the time I got there in 1995, there were very, very few. But even in Little Bierbijan, they had this internet cafe with super fast connections because there was all these teenage boys in there playing games. Yeah, video games and stuff. So, yeah, it just was like night and day being able to decide.”
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“Yeah, so there wasn't any of that stuff, but there were internet cafes like we were able to go even in tiny little Birbijan, which is this like, where's Birbijan? Birbijan is like so far east it's not even Siberia. It's the Russian Far East. It's just up from just a little bit north of China. It's really the middle of nowhere. It's where Joseph Stalin sent Jewish people in the late 20s and early 30s, promising them. It was called the Jewish Autonomous Region, still is. And his whole pitch was this will be a Jewish homeland in Russia, everybody. So we basically offer all these Jewish people free passage on the Trans-Siberian Railroad to go out to this place Birbijan. And at its height, there were actually like more than 40,000 Jewish people living there.”
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“In 2005? No. Nope. So David Hilligus, the photographer, had. Twitter. Regular good cameras. Yeah, no, there was no Twitter. There was Facebook. No, there wasn't Facebook. Facebook was like 2006 or 7, I think.”
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“And so, people, this is, you know, people ask me all the time is Putin really popular over there? And the short answer in more detail.”
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“So were a controlled area. They had gone on a trip to Italy. And by the time we came back in 2005, people were going on vacations to Turkey and they had credit cards and they could afford to buy imported stuff. And it just felt so different. And the shorthand that I've used, which I think is really true, is like Putin made Russia great again. You know, Russia, if you think about it, like Russia in the second half of the 20th century, there were only two superpowers in the world, us and the Soviet Union. Then the Soviet Union collapses. And in the 90s, nobody cared what Russia thought about anything anymore because they were poor, they were broke, their army was weak. Like nobody cared, you know. And so then in 2005, they start to get strong again.”
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“So 1995, four years out from the Soviet Union, the ruble had collapsed. the transition if you remember from like the state controlled economy to a market economy in Russia was completely disastrous. The ruble collapsed people lost their life savings. Everybody was freaked out. You didn't have the social net that you had before. Sure. And everybody was just like, we don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. They were just completely freaked out. It was very chaotic. And then in 2005, I got there. Putin had been in office for five years. The economy was doing really well because between 1995 and 2005, the price of oil tripled. Right. And it's a very oil-based economy. So they have all this money coming in. And then they're like sending it out to the provinces and the other cities and stuff. And they're building better roads and they're building bridges. And suddenly, I think on that first trip, there was literally one person that I met who had a credit card and had ever been outside of like.”
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“But anyway, so we start the trip again. We start with a remote lighthouse in BlaVas Stock, which is 5,700 miles from St. Petersburg. It's seven time zones away. It's like right next to North Korea. So we went there and just like knocked on the door again to see the people. And I had no idea if they'd be there. I had no idea if they'd be alive. And, you know, they come out and they're like, oh, hey, American journalist who was here 10 years ago. You're back. Isn't that funny? And so did that all the way across and found almost everybody, like incredibly enough, we found everybody except for one guy who was an elderly pensioner in 1995. And I suspect he was no longer living. But so we found everybody and did this blog. And I thought, like even before I finished in 2005, I thought, well, now I have to go back in 2015. I got to see what's going on with all this. What's happening?”
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“Yeah, it was just whatever it was. There was an editor there that I worked with who put it up on the site. But actually, it's funny just as an aside, like, we didn't get as much viewership as we hoped because we launched on September 1st, 2005, and that was right in the middle of New Orleans was underwater from Hurricane Katrina. So that was like, Washington Post stripped down their entire homepage and it was nothing but Katrina the whole time.”
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“Blogs were new. Yeah. Newish, yeah. So it was very cool to be able to have, you know, have WashingtonPost.com running it. So we went and like blogs.”
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“George W. Bush So Gary couldn't come, so I hired another photographer, this guy named David Hilligus, and he and I set out and we actually did this deal with the Washington Post where it ran on WashingtonPost.com as a blog for 11 weeks. And so we just went.”
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“That's right. The Lock by Call Monster. It was the summer home. So, yeah, so we, and we interviewed a rap star in Moscow and we went to this lighthouse at the edge of the earth in Vladivostok. So we're just like meeting regular people. So 10 years goes by, and I call Gary because we're still friends. He was living in Paris, and I said, hey, wouldn't it be cool if we just went back and like that? Yeah, like seven up. Exactly, exactly. And a lot had changed in Russia because in 1995 it was just four years out from the Soviet Union. And Yeltsin was the president. Clinton was our president. It was like super friendly relations between the two countries. And then in 2005, now Putin had been in office for five years. The economy had turned around. And I just thought it would just be really fascinating if it was our president.”
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“Yeah, Lake Maul is like a wonder of the world. It's actually got more freshwater in it than all of the Great Lakes combined, but it has much less surface area. It's actually super deep. It's more than a mile deep. That's where Ness Mall.”
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“10 years ago. Right. So Gary and I did this trip, and I thought, well, that was a once in a lifetime trip. And we did things like we went out to visit a farmer in this tiny village outside Ulano Day, and we went out with the scientists who study Lake Baikal. We went out on an expedition with them.”
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“But yeah, so we did the site. And actually, if you look at it, actually up until about two or three months ago, it was still online. You could look at it. And you could look on the bottom of the homepage. It said best viewed using Netscape 1.1N or later. So that's kind of my favorite bit. Yeah. Yeah. It was super cutting edge for its time. Yeah, absolutely. And it just looks ridiculous today. Yeah. Yeah.”
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“Actually, Blue Link. So the fact that we were actually uploading photographs from the middle of Siberia, this was just insanely, like, I still can't believe we managed to do it. And Gary actually had some sort of deal with Sprint, which had these telecom nodes there because they were starting to try to do business in Russia. He had this deal with them where we would go to their offices and somehow hook up to the nodes directly. I still don't fully understand how we did it. That's what we had. Yeah, so we had this website. So you'd sit there for eight hours. Yeah, so and it was so stupid like we'd be like, okay, we start to upload. It's like, oh, this one's really slow. Okay, well, you watch and I'll sleep for a while. Because if it, you know, conked out, you started over again. That's right. Oh god, we have to catch the train. We have to get to the train station and we'd go all night and then it would stop.”
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“No, actually, no, it was surprising how much we got actually a fair amount of traffic. We got a lot of people emailing us. We had this little page on the site that was like, I mean, it's also rudimentary looking.”
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“The Russians are such trusting people. You go ahead and write what you want. She was like, yeah. We will fast forward to today. They had figured it out. Yeah, that's. Russia and then publish this and to what?”
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