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Liv Boeree

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“It really is good, and it's just nothing but like just so much fun. And you can just get into so many, yeah, there's the space to just explore and see what comes and emerges. And yeah.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It can do. Some people struggle with the, you know, I mean, a big thing I think that one has to learn is being okay with things coming to an end. Terms of projects and so on, people cling on to things beyond what they're meant to be doing, beyond what is reasonable.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It seems like our universe is over time becoming more and more complex and interesting. There's so much richness and beauty and diversity on this earth, and I want that to continue and get more. I want more diversity in the very best sense of that word is to me the goal of all this”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“More of experience just to have more of experience and not ideally positive experience. And More complex, you know, to, I guess, try and put it into a sort of vaguely scientific term. Make it so that the program required the length of code required to describe the universe as long as possible. And that highly complex and therefore interesting. Because again, I know we bang the metaphor to death, but tiled with X, you know, tiled with paperclips doesn't require that much of a code to describe. Obviously, maybe something emerges from it, but that steady state, assuming a steady state, is not very interesting.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's like layers. I mean, I feel the urge to live up to that, to be the inverse of evil. Or even better, because I don't think is the inverse of evil good or is good something completely separate to that? I think my intuition says it's the latter, but I don't know. Anyway, again, getting in the weeds. What is the meaning of all this?”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which was kind of what my whole personality was back then. Like, I was just very, you know, as I said, like very competitive, very just like must, you know, bend this thing to my will. Whereas writing music is you work, it's like a dance. You work with it.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. It's like proto metal, and it's happy, it's optimistic, happy proto-metal. Yeah, I mean, these things, you know, all these genres bleed into each other. But yeah, sorry, to answer your question about Guitar playing. My relationship with it was kind of weird in that I was deeply uncreative. My objective would be to hear some really hard technical solo and then learn it, memorize it and then play it perfectly. But I was incapable of trying to write my own music. Like the idea was just absolutely terrifying. But I was also just thinking, I was like, it'd be kind of cool to actually try starting a band again and getting back into it and write. But it's scary.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or get you in a certain way. Yeah, I was weirdly listening to 80s Hermetal before I came. Does that count as much as much?”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Metallica are metal. They were the, I mean, again, you can't say who was the godfather of metal, blah, blah, blah, but they. Was so groundbreaking and so brilliant You've named literally two of my favorite bands. When you ask that question of who are my favorites, those were two that came up. A third one is Children of Bodom, who I just think they just tick all the boxes for me. Yeah, I don't know. Nowadays, I kind of sort of feel like a repulsion to the I was that myself. Like, I'd be like, who do you prefer more? Come on, who's like, no, you have to rank them? But it's like this false zero sumness that's like why they're so additive. Like there's no conflict there.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we only ever played. Two gigs. We didn't last, you know, it wasn't a very, we weren't famous or anything like that. But I I was very intermetal. Like, it was my entire identity Of from the age of 16 to 23.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because people always ask, they're like, oh, she's a pro. I want to do that too. Fine, you could have done it if you were, you know, when I started out. It was a very different situation back then. Poker is, you know, a great game to learn in order to understand the ways to think. And I recommend people learn it, but don't try and make a living from it these days. It's very, very difficult to the point of being impossible. And then really, really be aware of how much time you spend on your phone and on social media and really try and keep it to a minimum. Be aware that basically every moment that you spend on it is bad for you. So it doesn't mean to say you can never do it, but just have that running in the background. I'm doing a bad thing for myself right now. I think that's the general rule of thumb.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think about the win wins. Look for win-win situations. And be careful not to overly use your smarts to convince yourself that something is win-win when it's not. So that's difficult. And I don't know how to advise people on that because it's something I'm still figuring out myself. But have that as a sort of default MO don't see things everything as a zero-sum game. Try to find the positive sumness and like find ways. If there doesn't seem to be one, consider playing a different game. So I would suggest that. Do not become a professional poker player.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Alien their method of whatever their form of thinking is. It's just so different because they've never had to evolve in the same way”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Operating on a fundamentally different substrate. Even dogs or even mice or whatever in some ways, like anthropomorphizing them is less of a mistake, I think, than an AI, even though it's an AI we built and so on. Because at least we know that they're running from the same substrate. And they've also evolved from the same out of the same evolutionary process. You know, they've followed this evolution of like needing to compete for resources and needing to find a mate and that kind of stuff. Whereas an AI that has just popped into an existence somewhere on like a cloud server, let's say, you know, or whatever, however it runs and whatever, whether I don't know whether they have an internal experience, I don't think they necessarily do. In fact, I don't think they do. But the point is that to try and apply any kind of modeling of thinking through problems and decisions in the same way that we do has to be done extremely carefully because they are, like they're so...”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, you're dealing, I mean, with things like AI is they are. We can somewhat like, I don't think it's the reason I say anthropomorphization we need to be careful with is because there is a danger of overly applying, overly, wrongly assuming that this artificial intelligence is going to operate in any similar way to us because it is.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Individual agents within An ecosystem do, yes. Yes. Evolution itself doesn't give a fuck. It's very dunk. It's just like, oh, you optimize it. Well, at least it's certainly... Yeah, it doesn't care about the welfare of the individual agents within it, but it does seem to, I don't know, I think the mistake is that we're anthropomorphizing to even try and give evolution a mindset because there's a really great post by Ellie as a Yudkowski on Les Wrong, which is an alien god. And he talks about the mistake we make when we try and put on mind, think through things from an evolutionary perspective as though we giving evolution some kind of agency and what it wants. Yeah, worth reading. But yeah.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whereas information transfer, but then also an energy processing, which then results in, I guess, information processing, maybe I'm getting bogged down.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This and then they did a Bayesian update on it as well to like factor in the fact that there is no evidence that we're picking up because no evidence is actually a form of evidence, right? And the long and short of it comes out that we're roughly around 70% to be the only intelligent civilization in our galaxy thus far and around 50-50 in the entire observable universe, which sounds so crazily counterintuitive, but their math is legit.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They realize that it's like basically a statistical quirk that if you put in point sources, even if you think you're putting in conservative point sources, because on some of these variables, the uncertainty is so large it spans like maybe even like a couple of hundred of them orders of magnitude by putting in point sources, it's always going to lead to overestimates. And so by putting stuff on a log scale actually, they did it on like a log log scale on some of them and then ran the simulation across the whole bucket of uncertainty across all those orders of magnitude. When you do that, then actually the number comes out much, much smaller. And that's the more statistically rigorous mathematically correct way of doing the calculation. It's still a lot of hand waving as science goes, it's like definitely just waving, I don't know what an analogy is, but it's hand wavy. And anyway, when they did...”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the Drake equation is like basically just a simple thing of like trying to estimate the number of possible civilizations within the galaxy by multiplying the number of stars created per year by the number of stars that have planets, planets that are habitable, blah, blah, blah. They, instead of.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So the classic Fermi paradox question is there are so many spawn points and yet it didn't take us that long to go from harnessing fire to sending out radio signals into space. So surely given the vastness of space, and even if only a tiny fraction of those create life and other civilizations too, we should be, the universe should be very noisy. There should be evidence of Dyson spheres or whatever, you know, like at least radio signals and so on. But seemingly things are very silent out there now, of course, it depends on who you speak to. Some people say that they're getting signals all the time and so on. And like, I don't want to make an epistemic statement on that. Seems like there's a lot of silence, and so that raises this paradox. And then the Drake equation.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I mean, I think game theory is the source of Moloch. And, you know, because Moloch exists in non-human systems as well. It happens within agents within a game in terms of it applies to agents, but it can apply to, you know, A species that's on an island of animals, you know, rats out competing, the ones that massively consume all the resources are the ones that are going to win out over the more chill socialized ones. And so, you know, creates this Malthusian trap. Like Moloch exists in little pockets in nature as well. So it's not a strictly human thing.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It figures out abundance, it shouldn't need to kill us off. It should be able to find a way for us, it should be. There's plenty, the universe is huge. There should be plenty of space for it to go out and do all the things it wants to do and like give us a little pocket where we can continue doing our things and we can continue to do things and so on. And again, if it's so supremely wise, it shouldn't even be worried about the game theoretic considerations that by leaving us alive we'll then go and create another like superintelligent agent that it then has to compete against because it should be omni-wise and smart enough to not have to concern itself with that”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then, yeah, I don't know. So one of my favorite books I've ever read is Novacine by James Lovelock, who sadly just died. He wrote it when he was like 99. He died aged 102. So it's a fairly new book. And he sort of talks about that, that he thinks it's building off this Gaia theory where Earth is living some form of intelligence itself. And that this is the next step, right? As opposed to carbon-based goes on to do. And it's a really sort of, in some ways, an optimistic but rudely fatalistic book. And I don't know if I fully subscribe to it, but it's a beautiful piece to read anyway. So am I sad by that idea? I think so, yes. And actually, yeah, this is the reason why I'm sad by the idea, because if something is truly brilliant and wise and smart. Truly super intelligent. It should be able to figure out abundance.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, that's the reason why I'm in some ways less emotionally concerned about AI risk than, say, biorisk, because at least with AI, there's a chance, you know, if we're in this hypothetical where it wipes out humans, but it does it for some higher purpose. It needs our atoms and energy to do something. At least now there's the universe is going on to do something interesting. Whereas if it wipes everything, you know, bio just kills everything on Earth and that's it and there's no more Earth cannot spawn anything more meaningful in the few hundred million years it has less left because it doesn't have much time left.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The reason we hit it, I think, yeah, because what you're saying is that you think that the force of emergence itself Is another unwritten, another baked in law of reality. And you're trusting that emergence will find a way to, even out of seemingly the most molecule, awful plain outcome emergence will still find a way. I love that as a philosophy. I think it's very nice. Wield it carefully because there's large error bars on that and the certainty of that.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Interesting okay. Well, so how does that line up then with the whole heat death of the universe, right? Because that's another sort of instantiation of this. It's like everything becomes so far apart and so cold and so perfectly mixed that it's like homogenous grayness. Do you think that even out of that homogenous grayness where there's no negative entropy, there's no free energy that we understand, even from that new.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“True, true, true. Try to maximize paperclips. So you're saying that because kind of like in the Big Bang, it seems like, you know, things, there were clusters, there was more stuff here than there, that was enough of the patternicity that kick-started the evolutionary process. The little weirdnesses that will make you beautiful. Even out of...”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're saying that basically intelligence is inherent in the fabric of reality and will find a way, kind of like Goldbloom says life will find a way. You think life will find a way, even out of this perfectly homogenous dead soup.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then we're not describing a paperlit maximizer anymore because if you think of what a paperclip is, it is literally just a piece of bent iron Right, so if it's maximizing that throughout the universe, it's taking every atom it gets its hand on into, somehow turning it into iron or steel. And then bending it into that shape and then done and done by definition, like paperclips, there is no way for, well, okay, so you're saying that paperclips somehow will just emerge and create. Through gravity, or something”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you ask me, it's still a bad thing because it's permanently capping. What the universe could ever be. It's like that's its end”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it just propagates. I mean, it depends whether it figures out how to jump the vacuum gap. But again, I mean, this is all silly because it's a hypothetical thought experiment, which I think doesn't actually have much practical application to the AI safety problem, but it's just a fun thing to play around with. But if by definition, it is maximally intelligent, which means it is maximally good at. Navigating the environment around it in order to achieve its goal, but extremely bad at choosing goals in the first place. So again, we're talking on this orthogonality thing, right? It's very low on wisdom, but very high on capability, then it will figure out how to jump the vacuum gap between planets and stars and so on and thus just turn every atom it gets its hands on into paperclips.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Depends on the type of thing that kills it off, right? If it's a papered lip maximizer, not for the example, but some kind of very self-replicating, high on the capabilities, very low on the wisdom type thing. So whether that's grey goo, green goo. Like nanobots or just a shitty misaligned AI that thinks it needs to turn everything into paperclips If it's something like that, then it's going to be very hard for life, you know, complex life because by definition, a paperclip maximizer is the ultimate instantiation of molecule. Deeply low complexity, over optimization on a single thing, sacrificing everything else, turning the whole world into...”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, it is unique to this particular, yeah. I mean, but I don't, in my mind it doesn't exclude, you know, the completely different forms of life and different. Soups Kant also spawn, but I guess it implies that there's some spark that is Uniform, which I kind of like the idea of that it's you know”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I really don't know. I would imagine she would take the viewpoint of, you know, she's pretty humble and she knows how many, she knows there's a huge number of potential spawn sites out there, so she would. Spawn sites and polytopia. We spawned on Earth, you know,”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, at least for me, it made sense, and I was good at it. I liked it. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like I did an immense amount of soul searching to choose it or anything. It just was like this, it made the most sense. I mean, you have to make this decision in the UK age 17, which is crazy because in US, you go the first year, you do a bunch of stuff, right? And then you choose your major.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was a degree that a subject that ticked the box of being answering these really big picture questions but is also extremely useful, it has a very high utility in terms of I didn't know necessarily. I thought I was going to become like a research scientist. My original plan was I want to be a professional astronomer.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that just got instilled in me when we would sleep out under the stars whenever it was the two nights a year when it was warm enough in the UK to do that. And we would just lie out there until we fell asleep looking for satellites, looking for shooting stars. And I was just always, I don't know whether it was from that, but I've always naturally gravitated to like the biggest questions and also the like the most layers of abstraction I love, just like what's the meta question? What's the meta question and so on? So I think it just came from that really. And then on top of that, like physics, it also made logical sense in that it was a”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, she just is Mother Earth and she has always been fascinated by, you know, she doesn't have any, you know, she never went to university or anything like that. She's actually phobic of maths. If I try and get her to like, you know, I was trying to teach her poker and she hated it. But she's so deeply curious.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As early as I can remember, I was very lucky that my mum and my dad, but particularly my mum, my mum is like the most nature, she is Mother Earth. It's the only way to describe her. She's like Dr. Doolittle, animals flock to her and just like sit and look at her adoringly.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But at the same time, we have found ways to, you know, we're clearly doing something right because think of the technological scientific advancements, the knowledge that we have that would blow people's minds even from 100 years ago.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's ascientific as well because the beauty of the scientific method is that it still can apply to this situation. I don't see why I would like to try and test this experimentally. I haven't really, you know, I don't know how we would go about doing that. We'd have to find other people with the same condition, I guess, and try and repeat the experiment. But just because something happens that's sort of out of the realms of our current understanding, it doesn't mean that the scientific method can't be used for it.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of frame, and I don't want to reduce it down. All I can do is describe the experience and what happened. I cannot put an ontological framework around it. I can't say why it happened, what the mechanism was, what the problem even was in the first place. I just know that something crazy happened. And it was while I was in an open state. And fortunately for me, it made the problem go away. But what I took away from it, again, it was part of this, you know, this took me on this journey of becoming more humble about what I think I know. Because as I said before, I was like, I was in the like Richard Dawkins train of atheism in terms of there is no God. Everything like that is bullshit. We know everything. We know, you know, the only way we can get through how medicine works and its molecules and chemical interactions and that kind of stuff. And now it's like, okay, well, there's clearly more for us to understand. And that doesn't mean.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Self healing. You know, and I mean, I don't know what the problem was. Like I was told it was many years. I don't want to say I definitely had that because I don't want people to think that, oh, that's how, you know, if they do have that because it's terrible disease and if they have that, that this is going to be a guaranteed way for it to fix it for them. I don't know. And I also don't, and you're absolutely right to say using even the word placebo is like it comes with this baggage of.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I don't again, I don't have an explanation for this. The most probable explanation was a burning man. I was in a very open state. Let's just leave it at that. You know placebo is an incredibly powerful thing and a very not understood thing.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And she's like, I don't know what that. She said it was something very unpleasant and dark. Don't worry, it's gone. I think you'll be fine in a couple. You'll have the physical symptoms for a couple of weeks and you'll be fine. But, you know, she was like that, you know, so I was so rattled, A, because the potential that actually I'd had something bad in me that made someone feel bad and that she was scared. That was, you know, I was like, wait, I thought you do this. This is the thing. Now you're terrified. Like you pulled like some kind of exorcism or something. Is going on so it Like, just the most insane experience. And frankly, it took me like a few months to sort of emotionally recover from it. So”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was like, sure, have a go. And she starts with her hand and she says, oh, there's something there. And then she leans in and she starts sucking over my ear, not actually touching me, but like close to it, like with her mouth. And it was really unpleasant. I was like, whoa, can you stop? She's like, no, no, no, there's something there I need to get in. I was like, no, no, no. I really don't like it. Please, this is really loud. She's like, I need to just bear with me. And she does it. And I don't know how long, for a few minutes. And then she eventually collapses on the ground like freezing cold, crying. And I'm just like, I don't know what the hell is going on. I'm thoroughly freaked out, as is everyone else watching, just like, what the hell? Warm her up and she was like, she was really shaken up.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It often comes with dizzy spells and other things because it's like the inner ear gets all messed up. Now I don't know if that's actually what I had, but that's what at least one doctor said to me. But anyway, so I'd had three months of this stuff, this going on. It was really getting me down. And then I was at Burning Man of all places. I don't mean to be that person talking about Burning Man, but I was there. And again, I'd had it and I was unable to listen to music, which is not what you want because Burning Man is a very loud, intense place. And I was just having a really rough time. And on the final night, I get talking to this girl who's like a friend of a friend. And I mentioned I was like, oh, I'm really down in the dumps about this. And she's like, oh, well, I've done a little bit of energy healing. Would you like me to have a look? I was like, sure. Now this was, again, no time in my life for this. I didn't believe in any of this stuff. I was just like, it's all bullshit. It's all wooey nonsense.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The other craziest thing that's happened to me was in 2018, I started getting this weird problem in my ear where it was kind of like low frequency sound distortion, where voices, particularly men's voices, became incredibly unpleasant to listen to. It would like create this, it would be falsely amplified or something. And it was almost like a physical sensation in my ear, which was really unpleasant. And it would last for a few hours and then go away and then come back for a few hours and go away. And I went and got hearing tests and they found that like the bottom end, I was losing the hearing in that ear. And so in the end, I got doctors said they think it was this thing called many airs disease, which is this very unpleasant disease where people basically end up losing their hearing, but they get this like...”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh man, God, your audience are going to think I'm mad. So the two crazy things that happened to me, the one was the voice in the head that said you're going to win this tournament. And then I won the tournament.”
2022-08-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #314 – Liv Boeree: Poker, Game Theory, AI, Simulation, Aliens & Existential Risk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source