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Luis Perez-Breva

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“I can give you two stories Forward and the one in hindsight. So, looking forward, I had no clue what I was doing. Let's be serious. I figure stuff as I go because learning is my thing. So I didn't know what it would take to write a book, nor how much more work there was after you turning the manuscript.”
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“You either fix it, right? Or you figure out you can't fix it, but then it probably means you are no longer interested and you move on. So the keyword failure that's being so overused is actually distracting you from what I believe the true American value is, which is you just try it out. It works. Great. Doesn't work. You fix it. You don't care. You move on.”
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“Fear, yes So, the first time I went and I started teaching abroad, they asked me, what about failure with this kind of panicky eyes? And I said, what about it? I said, it has no meaning. And they looked at me and said, what do you mean? Yeah, why do you even worry about that? I said, like, the word has no meaning. You try it, it works, or it doesn't work. That's it.”
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“So I've had to deal a lot with that question. So I think the word failure, which has become incredibly popular in the last 10 years. And only in the last 10 years is being overused and it doesn't mean exactly what I perceive my students and the people I see in the United States actually do. So failure is the word the rest of the world actually uses to describe their fear.”
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“You were to talk to a number of historians and economists, they would tell you that innovation is over actually every 30 years someone says that. So there is something very unique and amazing about American culture. And I say that from the perspective of someone who came here for what he thought was just a year and could not get himself to leave, actually, because I love it. American culture combines ingenuity with a candle attitude, with a trying things out. And not being afraid to not get things right the first time. And notice I avoid the word failing.”
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“It's hard to answer that question because if you believe what I've said about innovation before, we won't know it until it's on and then we'll call it an innovation in hindsight. But while it's doing, it looks preposterous.”
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“I've tried to all sorts of explanations in the back of my head. Sometimes I thought it was emergence of cell phones and so on. Sure, those play a role, but there is something new like that every two years. So every year, every two years is different. Every semester is different already, but every two years you need to entirely clean the class and redo it. The grounds up so that you can actually communicate meaningfully with students, which makes me better, right? That's how I get better.”
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“Years if you have not completed done a blank slate in your head as to who the people are in front of you, you are going to miss the boats.”
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“All sorts of things. First of all, that the better I get, or actually I should put it in reverse, the more I see them do what I teach them, the more I realize I can teach more. I know that in the general world, sometimes less is better, but at MIT more is better. So I've gotten to actually teach so much more throughout the semester than I thought possible before to the point that I now believe that I can anybody, no matter their background, can be trained to innovate starting from what they have. And that's why I wrote the book. And that I learned from the students by actually pushing the envelope. The other thing I learned, and this is shocking, this is still shocking to me. Student body changes every two years. And what I mean by that is that the mindset of students changes radically every two years. I would have thought it's 10 years or five or generational 20 every two years.”
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“Is becoming hard. It's actually a fascinating field. And then I went back to MIT, finished my PhD, did a number of startups on the side. And as I was leaving MIT, I was approached by a faculty who had seen me teach in context and said, would you help us set up this program, innovation teams that needs revamped to truly do what it's meant to accomplish? And you've done this, he said, because you have a PhD, you understand how to be rigorous. And at the same time, you've done this in the real world with real technologies from scratch. And you actually are not afraid of any deep tech, as you can imagine with physics, chemical engineering and artificial intelligence as a background, I'm not scared of technology anymore if I ever was, right? And so I see all kinds of fantastic technologies and I actually can help.”
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“Yeah, that I got after before I actually did the company. So, as I said, everything in the wrong order. I did my PhD half the way through my PhD I needed more challenge. So I took a year of sabbatical for my PhD and went to live in France. And I continued working for my company and at the same time took a degree in quantum mechanics because I thought quantum computing was going to be hot and I needed to understand that.”
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“I went back to, I did everything in the wrong order. So I did a company in AI, and then I went to do a PhD in AI. People typically do an MBA, but somehow I got my cables crossed.”
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“And then we don't care if triangulation works, right? The problem to solve is where are you when you call 911, right? That's it. If triangulation doesn't work, then we need something else. And there is data, and the data we have is rich because it contains everything that's surroundings. So we built an AI that would actually learn from that data how to locate you for the purpose of 911, of course. And so that worked out to this day, it's the most phenomenal technology that does this. It's incredibly scalable and it works. And it looks near magical because it's not based on model thinking or science-based thinking, even though science plays a role, but it's not the way we typically use science.”
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“So with reality You find out where it takes you, and you can actually work and operate directly on problems, which is what we did then. Back then, the real problem was, and this is like already 20 years ago, so you've been located by AI ever since to help you, right? So we realized that the only problem was that We didn't know where you were, and you needed us to know.”
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“Not the old way. It turns out the triangulation would actually not work. But it would take me a long time actually to persuade you that that doesn't work. But it actually links to a lot of what I've discovered since that the way we use science is very constraining. We use it as a model. We try to feed the world to the science. But with AI, you can do it the other way around. And you can make science much more playable. And that's what I've been doing for years. in my”
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“Exactly to this day, when you call E911 in most of the states in the United States, you are being located by the company we founded with the technology invent.”
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“Yes, but later first I did a startup in Silicon Valley. I actually spent some months at MIT. Then they offered me to stay for a PhD. I applied and they got accepted. And then I said, No, I'm not doing it. I've studied for too long. I need real world experience. And I went and need a startup in Silicon Valley.”
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“And yet, I'm not sure everybody would actually realize how much they led their background constrain them instead of actually empowering them. So that's the way I first made it to MIT. And ever since I've come and gone six or seven times.”
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“Apparently not. I thought he would. I thought he would immediately say no. And then I told him, you know, I have lots of offers to stay around here and do my master's thesis. I just want to go work with you. I've told you all these things. I've said we would sort it out, but say no, or I will continue forever. I will never graduate. And so he said to me, okay, give me three days, which was not the response I was expecting. I was respecting the response. No. And then he, in the end, he said, okay, you can come. And that was the first time I made it to MIT, mostly as a visitor. To work on artificial intelligence being a chemical engineer, which was the first time I realized that what you study should not constrain you.”
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“Everything was a challenge. So, well, we may not be able to get you a visa, and then I'll figure that out, even though I didn't know how. And blah, blah, blah. You can imagine that went for nine months. And at the end of nine months, I responded to this professor who's since become a good friend, you know what? Just tell me now. I said, because if you don't tell me no, I'm just going to keep going at it. I need you to say no”
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“So I was finishing my master's degree in Spain. And I decided I wanted to try something new. And a friend of my family said, you should go to the United States. And I said, okay. And so I looked around and I found these people working on a mix of artificial intelligence and math. And I really wanted to do that. Even though I was just a chemical engineer at the time. Not even that yet. And so I sent an email. Asking to meet, and then another, and then another. And I kept them being told a bunch of things, but none of them was no.”
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“Emphasize the fact that we're going to bring people from different disciplines together and they're going to learn because remember it's an educational experience that's a tricky learn How good or bad they are at interacting with other kinds of people, and they're going to learn how to either change that or they're going to learn how to not to work with again in the future.”
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“Interesting. So, I'm not sure the lonely inventor at the lab will actually become the innovator. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. But in order to become an innovator, they have to become something else. That's something else is they are required to talk to other people for some purpose, even if to understand what the world looks like outside of the lab and learn about the stuff they haven't learned in the lab. They have to be ready to change the idea. They have to be ready to use science or technology or their discipline, whatever it may be a different way than they were used to do it in the lab, or if they are in a company in their company, right? And so once you do that, sometime along the process, there's got to be a team because there's no company of one, right? So it's not so much that the team is important, it's that you need to learn how to connect with other people and let other people go and along the path discover how to interact with people to actually bring the idea to scale. So we call it teams to emphasize.”
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“In the process, can you actually make And that's what I mean by exploring at first. Now I've got to say that nowadays, a good friend of mine alerted me to this, nowadays capital has become cheap in the sense that There's an abundance of capital for investors, and so now it's even harder for people with good ideas or with a desire to produce good ideas to not be drawn into this frenzy of asking for money and then going and creating a company on top of something that's really maybe not that great a starting point.”
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“So there's two ways to think about that I think that if all you have is an idea, which, as you know, I think they tend to be born not so great. Not to say bad. And you obsess about pitching it and selling it, you're putting yourself in the worst negotiation position you can possibly ever be, which is someone else is going to decide what your company is going to look like. They may give you money. You may look like great because you got the money, but then you may soon realize your idea needed a whole different process. So I ask in the book, I ask everybody who has an idea to think of themselves as investor zero because the first time is going to be spent by them. And instead of spending six months touring VCs or asking for money, what can you accomplish in those six months to spare yourself the agony of going for money with a bad idea?”
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“Exactly. And of course, there's no chance we're going to find the perfect problem at the start. But as long as you understand how to do it, you can do it increasingly more quickly. And that's what led me to believe that you could actually practice this even when you don't have a technology at the input, which is what the book covers. But beauty is that the result is actually very clear path to action to take this technology, change it, and address a problem that even the researchers hadn't thought about. And so a bunch of startups have actually come out of this, even though it's not my objective, right? My objective is to educate students so they do this continuously, right?”
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“Exactly. And that alone takes me about a month. Forced steams to appreciate that we are actually turning things on its head because it's actually simpler. Find a problem.”
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“Is a superpower. We just don't know what the superpower is. And obviously, that superpower is going to solve a problem somewhere. We just don't know where nor what the problem is. So we need to solve for those two things.”
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“So it's a very unusual entity in academia. A few years ago, we thought about... Well, you know, we want to educate people to actually meaningfully innovate as a career choice. How do we do that? So most people think that you want technologies from academia to live and have an impact in the world. And of course, we want that. But what I really want is for every single student at MIT and whatever I've taught this now worldwide to learn how to do this as a career choice. And then they can choose to do it or not. That's their choice. I thought, how do we do that? And it occurred to us that you could actually get MIT technologies, which is a real tangible thing, and then ask students from all domains. So I may get an engineering technology and the students are from science, business, and architecture, and then try to teach them what it actually means to innovate with that tangible starting point. And the process is very simple. So someone in a lab at MIT has discovered that a new thing is actually possible. So I tell my students, okay, somewhere there, hidden.”
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“Well, what I propose people do and what I talk about in my book is, you know, you have a hunch, how about we try to figure out what problem is it that you really think you're solving? A way to think about problems that's pretty straightforward. And what I tell my students, and they look at me funny, is that if an alien species were to come down to Earth and show you the solution, would you even know that that's actually a solution to your problem? Because if not, then you will never find it on your own. And that's how you fail. So you start working backwards for what you think solves the problem. And then before you know it, you realize you actually get to define everything. So you continuously do that. And before you know it, you succeed. Maybe it's a different way you thought you would.”
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“Just gotta try it out and see what happens now. The good news is that you also get to define what success is. So there is no way you can fail. unless you make it a purpose, like many people do.”
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“So, I think that if we went back 10 years ago, maybe 15, and anybody came to us and said, you need to be listening to more podcasts. The answer would be, what is this person talking about? So, I don't think you can expect anybody, neither the innovator nor the entrepreneur nor the investor nor anybody, to predict the future, right? And so at some point, if you truly are looking four or five years ahead and you're going to users and hoping they have an answer of what the future beholds five years ahead, I think you're deluding yourself. Nobody has that answer. Someone has to make up that future. That's the way I hear what Steve Jobs might have said, right? I wasn't in the room.”
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“Give us another example. We just discussed when should I stop mediating versus executing? I don't know how to even pose that question meaningfully Should I pivot today? Maybe, maybe not. I have no data, no evidence to kind of grasp some other advice you hear a lot is focus on the user. But really, if what you're doing is that new, is there already a user for it? If not, you're just making it up. By the way, I'm all for making stuff up. I'm not for ignoring the fact that you just made it up, right? So it's concealing the assumption you make is actually the big mistake you would do.”
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“Yes, except that some companies have taken as a mantra to take pivoting as a thing they do. And so every now and then they say they try to cost themselves to think, how should I change direction today? And that's a really hard question. Actually, the entrepreneurship, which is different from innovation, is full of really strange questions.”
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“And as you start to get traction in different directions, it seems as though you're doing different things. But every time you look at any of those stories, the way they really happened, not the way they are told, there was no pivot, nobody started pivoting and changing their mind every 10 seconds. Right. And the advice to pivot countries.”
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“You know, a lot about innovation, we're just chatting about it, it depends on from where you're looking at it. So if you are at the receiving end of it and you're just looking at what a company does without all the knowledge of what they're doing every day, It looks as though they change direction all the time. Now, that's just a perception from the outside, which means it's not what you should do. It's what people think you're doing. But what you are doing is effectively continuously changed incrementally how you're thinking about it, reformulating it continuously.”
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“Flexible or exact. And what we know from innovations, and every single treaty is an innovation, tells you this, is that innovation is fundamentally nonlinear. If your endeavor sets you up to try to predict the future so that you know when to start executing, you are starting the wrong way. So what I tell my students and the way we teach it and the way I explain it in the book is your challenge is to scale up something. That's the only thing that matters. And you cannot scale up by mostly dissociating an execution from idea. Execution will change your idea and your idea will change what you execute on continuously at different scales.”
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“There are two completely different skill sets. But my experience when I've taught over years is that paying too much attention to those two words actually gets you into linear thinking because then it causes you to ask the question, when should I stop ideating and then start executing?”
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“And you can practice it. So, as you practice, you start to see opportunities that are essentially merging things that you and perhaps only you see that are meant to go together, but no one else does, just yet.”
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“Actually, much simpler than people think once you remove the obsession to come up with this earth shattering or disruptive idea, then you realize that all you need to start is something that doesn't seem to be right. So you might as well start by trying to put together two things that actually don't seem to fit together, and then that causes you to ask the question, okay, this doesn't work. Why? And as you start from there, you realize that all you need to do is continue to put these pieces, these parts together to prove to yourself that this will actually not work. Slowly you increasingly either build up scale, just give up on it, mostly because you lose interest. And that's fine. That's how we humans operate. It's actually a very simple way to do it.”
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“Is change because it's in your head and it doesn't exist anywhere, and for it to exist, you need to scale something up to the world. And it would be amazing if you had figured everything out perfectly in your head. So you need to almost assume that your idea, interesting, enticing as it seems to you is just fundamentally wrong in more ways than it is actually right. And that's how you figure out how to get it to scale.”
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“Well, you know, if you truly have one of those ideas that in the future someone will say they were innovative, right? What you realize is that there is a lot to learn ahead of you. And it's just impossible for you to have figured it out all in your head. So the first thing that needs to happen to that idea.”
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“So, the basic difference is an admission, practical sense, nothing. Ideas come from pretty much anywhere. And as I've told you, the best ideas start out being just preposterous, combining two things that are not meant. To go together. But from a perception standpoint, from how you go and see people pitching ideas and investing in ideas, people should not be investing in ideas. People should be investing in projects, in organizations, in dreams, if you want, if you want to take it to the extreme. But ideas just... They are born bad. All ideas are effectively born bad.”
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“That's a trick question. Okay. It's a trick question because over the last 10 years, we've placed such an importance on the word idea that in my book, I decided to give up on it and I actually talk about hunches because now ideas have become so important that it's actually burdening most of us. We think we need to come up with these innovative idea before we even do anything.”
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“No one knows what to do with it. There isn't even a spreadsheet yet that will come a bit later. You can read the entire history. I mean, at the time, and somehow today, because you have a computer in your pocket and probably another in your desk and another at home and maybe Five iPads and who knows what? Maybe your phone is a computer as well. It seems perfectly natural. So that is what makes it look like an innovation. It's even better because by the time it's gone through its cycle, it actually looks old The idea of a computer in every desk and at every home seems old all of a sudden, and yet it was a brutal innovation that has created so much Economic progress in all sorts of fields. Like we're sitting in a room where there's a gazillion of computers.”
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“I love, I'm just going to use big examples and see how preposterous they were. And how logical is in today. So Bill Gates in 1975 talks about a computer in every desk and at every home, right? So now go back to 1975, where there are maybe a few mainframes here and there.”
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“Innovation has been said to me so many things. It's an overused word. So I'll tell you what I think innovation is. Innovation is the end result, meaning you go about trying to solve some obstacles, solve a problem. And most people will think you're wrong. And one day they stop thinking you're wrong and they'll call it an innovation. So, innovation is how people certify. You did, but at first it looked preposterous, it was fundamentally wrong, and you did it because you felt there was something to it that other people couldn't see.”
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“And being wrong, play. But it was play. Now we grow up and we kind of are afraid of being wrong. We need to be right. And so before you know it, you are just not using your brain for what it was, for what it evolved to do best. Which is learning through this kind of play. Let's talk about.”
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“Or you can look at it the other way around. We adults. Should play much the same way because that's how we acquired a bunch of things we use every day language, your surroundings, your sense of taste. Everything was acquired that precise way.”
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“And I bring this up because playing an instrument is such an intuitive thing depending on how you learn it, that it brings this about how we learn, even when you're an adult. So I started to learn violin with my daughter.”
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