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Maggie Haberman

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first: 2017-09-25
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“But to me, the really interesting thing now is that the people that Trump built his business on are the inverse America to the people that he ran on, right? He ran on rural America, excerbs, the middle of the country, Rust Belt. His businesses, his hotels and golf clubs at least are in Blue America right on the coast, wealthy enclaves. A lot of them, people very, very wealthy are members, and a lot of them are very liberal. And so he is now trying to sort of appeal to both those constituencies at once. I mean, one constituency is locked into membership fees in some cases, but he's running to stoke his base, he ends up alienating the people who are his customer base for a long time. And I'm really interested in how those two sort of sides of his appeal interact with each other and whether in the end which one matters to him more.”
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“Just because it's a lot of the same sort of techniques are useful in covering that, and also because I think that's an undercovered source of influence on Trump. From Trump's perspective, positive and negative. There's a lot of people who are giving him business because he's the president and a lot of people are taking away business from him because he's the president.”
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“Whether that's real, and we haven't seen his tax returns, which he repeatedly promised he would release, but then they were under audit and this and that. It is, as David said, it is always a mirage. But I was so used to, there was a side that was sort of like, everybody knows this, actually everybody doesn't know this. And that, I would say, was one of my biggest failings during the campaign.”
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“What happens to the other person? The whole reason that I his folks came to me in May of 2015 and said, Trump is going to declare on June 16th and we want you to write it. And I said no. And they said, why? And I said, because I'm not doing this again. I did this in 2011 and he didn't run and I'm not playing this game where he looks for free publicity again. He's going to actually have to run for me to do this. And I never thought he would because I didn't think he would file a financial disclosure form.”
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“Stuart Rohr, who actually was very infrequently talked about in this campaign, I think by his own design, but Rahr is this party boy who was a page six fixture who was constantly funding Trump's fun or charities or Trump would promise a donation to something and it was actually Rahr who would give it. And I had a friend in New York politics who called me and around October of 2015 and was like, you need to sort of be focusing on this. And we never really did, and we never really did anywhere near as well as David did. And with the sort of part of what the brilliance of what David did is that with Trump, it's not really enough to just write it once or twice. You need to write it over and over and over and over again because this tidal wave of other stuff he puts out takes over with Trump, to David's point about the causes himself. You know, this is a casino owner where the house always wins, right? So he always wins one way or the other in his mind. And it doesn't really matter.”
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“Right. I mean, especially with Trump, because so much of it is whacking in golf club intentionally across the field to get you to chase it. When I was listening to David talk, I was thinking about this is where in some ways those of us who had covered Trump for a really long time were actually at a disadvantage in this campaign because the five borough view in New York City of Trump is so unbelievably different than the national view of Trump. The national view of Trump was formed over 14 years of the apprentice. And so I was amazed when I would go to Iowa and people would describe him as if he was like Thomas Edison. They'd be like, you know what? He's this innovator. He formed this huge business. He's decisive. He makes decisions. And it's like he fired Gary Busey. And that's what they're talking about. In New York City, he was known as a hustler. He was known as somebody who left other people with the bills, who didn't pay his bills. He was known as somebody who was constantly promising to give money, but it was always living on other people's money. He has this friend.”
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“Look, I mean, I think that I agree completely with your point that what David did was pick, and we all commented on this at the times, and I gave David an enormous credit for this because he picked a lane and he just focused on that lane as opposed to the rest of us who were constantly chasing the golf ball across the course.”
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“Money away, but almost always to people that people that had invited him to a party had given him an award, places where it was socially unacceptable when this particular interaction not to have some kind of charity, the charitable donation. And so this was his way of meeting that minimum, but there's no greater cause. The cause was always him.”
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“Yeah, the first line of the art of the deal in 1987 was I have so much money I don't need anymore, right? I'm so rich that I couldn't use any more money. That's one side of the personality, the image. The other side was I need your money. Give me money for Trump's steaks, Trump water, Trump University. He was always hustling to get you to give him your money. And so how do you square that? A guy who doesn't need more money but is desperate to get you to send him cash. The way he would always do it was charity. This is for charity. Trump University, it's all for charity. It's not for me because I have more money than I could ever need. It was important to me to see he wanted people to believe that about him so much. What was he doing in private to live up to it? In the privacy of his own home, in the quiet of his own mind, did other people really matter to him? And if so, how? What causes had he chosen? And it seemed like in the result of all of it was the cause was himself. He did have a charity that Donald J. Trump Foundation, which gave some...”
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“Yeah, to me it was really, he clearly had thought it was an important thing to say about himself, that he was generous, that he was going to give money to people, because he would often say, like at Howard Stern, oh, yeah, celebrity apprentice, yeah, I'm going to give all the money to charity. I think there's two sides of Trump's character, at least his pre-presidential character. One was I'm the richest man you could possibly imagine. I live the life of Scrooge McDuck, basically. I have so much more money than I first.”
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“What he's actually doing. And so, in this case, Trump had for many years understood that to play the role of Bruce Wayne basically like millionaire playboy kind of figure, you had to be generous and generous and kind of extravagant ways. And so he'd been promising to have money to all these different people. But in private, he had been doing as much as he could to avoid giving anything to anybody. The moral compunction that he showed the world that he felt he didn't really feel. So that was something interesting line of coverage I thought an important thing to say about him. But I could only do that because we had people, other people at the post who were doing what Maggie was doing and following Trump around, writing stories about the campaign. I can only do it because we had a big enough staff to do everything.”
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“That was sort of the beginning of it. When that worked, right? Trump saw what I was doing and then actually gave the money away. That was two things. One, the editors realized that this was interesting. He gave a big press conference at Trump Tower where he excoriated the media for making him live up to this promise he'd given on television. And so the editor said, wow, if he's willing to do that, trying to weasel out of a commitment to veterans are most revered group in our society. And then under the brightest spotlight we have, which is a presidential campaign, what was he doing before? Was he promising money to charity before and not giving it? So they said, okay, make that sort of a focus. And one of the things that's so important about Trump covering him, and I know Maggie knows this too, is that he spends so much time constructing a facade about who he is and what he does and what matters to him and then makes it so hard to figure out the substance of what he lives, you know.”
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“And so, in this case, I thought, okay, well, maybe he probably did give this money away. And I spent a day searching for it and I haven't found it. And it turned out I had been putting at Rill Donald Trump and all of my tweets looking for this money in the hopes that he would see it. And the reason I couldn't find it was because it didn't exist. He had not given the money. Only after I made this big show of looking for it did Trump actually.”
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“One of my problems as a reporter is that I'm basically an optimist. I basically, if people say they're going to do something, this is in spite of so many years of covering politics. If people say they're going to do something, I believe them. That is shocking. It's a handicap. And it means that I'm constantly being surprised by things.”
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“You can't take that for an answer. I mean, we wrote a story saying that he said that. But you can't, I mean, you can't trust anybody saying that. So I went looking for proof basically that Trump had given this money away. And I was on Twitter basically saying, hey, has anybody gotten even $1 of this million dollars Trump says he just gave out of his own pocket to veterans? And I spent all day searching for it, couldn't find any evidence of it, and at the end thought the problem was me. This was a stupid way of searching reporters too.”
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“The short version of what happened with his charity was his veterans' promise, was it started out him saying he had gotten $6 million for veterans, of which $1 million was his own money. And he was going to give it away. And I just wanted to find out if he'd done it. And he hadn't, basically. It took me forever to figure that out. Finally, in May, I spent all this time sort of searching for evidence that anybody'd gotten the money that Trump said he was going to give to veterans specifically. And then Corey Lewandowski, who was Trump's campaign manager, now a Harvard fellow, called and said, I can tell you for sure Donald Trump has given”
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“Well, that's part of why my frequent collaborator, Glenn Thrush, is a lot better at that than I am, so he often pulls me off the wheel and parks me nicely on a piece of newspaper and lets me run around and nibble on some food. I do force myself to take breaks and sit back and kind of look at the pattern of what I'm looking at or look back and say, how does this relate to something he did in the campaign? Even something simple. Like I did a story a couple weeks ago about his opioids commission and their first report. They did this report and he announced a national emergency, but not really because the government hasn't actually declared a national emergency on this. And so, but that just disappeared under a wave of North Korea and a million other tweets.”
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“I was trained by this guy, Greg Bernbaum, who is now at NBC. He was my editor for a really long time. He was my editor of the post, and then he was my editor again at Politico. And his whole thing is just don't get beat, don't get beat, don't get beat. And so I literally look at everything as tiny little increments. And I do have this problem sometimes where I have to trouble stepping back and seeing how everything knits into a bigger picture because I cover everything. Like I am on some kind of cops in Crime Beat where it's like Donald Trump said today police said, but that is basically my approach because he also says so much that like, and especially in the campaign, that was one of his tricks was that he would say seven different things and people would either hear what they wanted to hear or nothing specifically would stick. Whereas with Hillary Clinton, the emails were basically like the one thing that everybody remembered or would hear. That is still how I cover him, but it's much harder to do that.”
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“Premiums went up to $1,400 a month. He can't afford this. To Obama because of the Affordable Care Act. And things just have to change and I hate Hillary. And these were basically the two reasons. So it was clear that something was going on. And then your question about covering it as a beat reporter”
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“And nothing was changing in the primary. There were 17 candidates almost the entire time. I think that there were 16 eventually, I guess it was Perry who dropped out first, right? So then there were 16. But the game theory that was supposed to take place where this one was going to get this person's 3% and then this was going to happen, none of that ever happened. So he was just able to kind of keep going. And I did this story with my colleague Tom Kaplan about evangelical, self-described evangelical voters who were backing Trump. The reasons that they gave, we spoke to a bunch of people who had been part of a Times poll who described themselves as evangelicals. And the reasons that a lot of them gave for why they were with Trump were so clear that a lot of issues that we think of as typical drivers, especially New Republican primary social issues, I mean, realistically, these had not been big drivers for the last two cycles, but people were so pissed off about Obamacare. I mean, the thing I kept hearing over and over again, every time I called someone was, my son”
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“Whenever he focuses on DACA or the border wall and the border wall is a little different, but the big belief among some of his critics is that those are the issues that were real drivers in the primary campaign. Actually, his Muslim attacks were the ones that were real drivers. I mean, because if you look at the arc of this election, and I think about this a lot, especially because one of the things that I covered in New York City at the post and then at the Daily News was the 9-11 attacks, because I was down there, and then rebuilding for three years. So if you look at the arc of this election, it has a lot of connectivity to what happened that day and then the aftermath and the country going a little crazy. Afterwards, but in that month when nothing changed, I mean, his ceiling, I mean, his floor rather was so hard.”
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“So take that as two separate questions. I mean, one is in terms of when it became clear that this might be something, it was after the Paris terrorist attacks in 2015 and November when his numbers didn't dip. He said all kinds of intemperate things. That was actually when he made his big Muslim ban pitch.”
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“I'll just call the Trump campaign and say, hey, he raised $6 million for veterans. Who do he give the rest of it to? And I thought that would be like a two or three day story, write that, move on to something else. And it said it was like, because they wouldn't tell me it became something that lasted for months and months and months.”
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“The things that he condemned changed over time. Like there was a time when he was condemning grits and gravy. Grits and gravy is bad. You got to eat vegetables. You know, America should be healthy. And then once he became this sort of like screw you, Michelle Obama, I'm going to eat grits and gravy candidate. Three years later, he was like, I hate people who tell me I can't eat grits and gravy. So just trying to find a way to tell a story of my cockabyte just in the timeline of things that he was condemning. Those people, while great experiences covering them, nobody read those stories. I got basically put on the Trump story as a one-day thing. In February on the caucus day, they said, look, here's a guy, Donald Trump. He's been on married three times. He's been on the cover of Playboy twice. He's about to win Mike Huckabee's Iowa, we thought. In the end, he didn't win. But Rick Santorum's Iowa. Go there with him on Caucus Day and just sort of watch what he does, how he interacts with voters. And that's when I saw him do this weird thing where he gave a big check.”
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“So we just read all of his books and read a lot of interviews, and the whole profile was just a list of things that Mike Huckabee had condemned as immoral over his life Like 180 things. You could see over his life. Remember he was the skinny governor for a while, sort of a progressive Republican governor of Arkansas, and then he was fat and conservative again. It's weight.”
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“Yeah, right. So you get to know them and try to communicate that to people, but also to try to find a canon that people think they're bored by or not interested in. One of my favorite stories about that was Mike Huckabee, right? McCuckabee briefly had a time running as a 2016 candidate. How do you profile my cuckoo?”
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“Well, two lessons. One, if you're going to write a profile, this is particularly a Bobby Gendel lesson. If you're going to write a profile of someone, a political candidate, you should look beforehand at the polling to see where that person is. And if next to their name in the polls is not even a number, just like an asterisk or like NA, you should not write a profile of that person. But I did, I like those stories in that you were trying to find different ways of telling a political profile story.”
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“One of whom didn't know he was coming and was just there eating ice cream when we said to him showed up. So, all my candidates said were basically kaput by the time that Iowa caucuses came around. Everybody had profile was gone. And so they said, well, all right, we have Trump reporters.”
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“I did not scroll down. I was really looking at him, trying to understand this. Doing real time. Yeah, right. Rick Santorum, I toured places in Iowa with Rick Santorum last year where he'd go to meet a crowd of like two people.”
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“In the middle of the speech, I'm like writing it down, trying to think of what this means for his political future, and then people, other reporters have been given the advance copy of the speech and are scrolling down, and you can hear them be like, oh no, just dropping out on page 70 drops out. So, anyway, that was”
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“Which means I basically covered losers, I covered Bobby Jingle, Rick Perry. Rick Perry actually flew to wrote a profile about him. I flew to Missouri to see him give a speech and he dropped out in the middle of the speech that I saw him when he was give. So, the Rick Santorum, I saw him tour”
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“I'm going to write about it. You can be in the story or out of the story. So that actually turned out to be helpful covering Trump because his reaction, a lot of these things was to say, no, I won't tell you. The only person who knows the facts about me is me. And if I don't want to cooperate, then you're screwed. And for me, it was, that was good preparation, Jeff say there is a way to build, to tell the truth about you without you. It's just a lot more work. So I covered the presidential campaign in 2015, but in 2015, I really wanted to cover Canada's who could get close to, people you could really see up close. I didn't want to be at a big covering Hillary Clinton where there's a crowd of 200 reporters.”
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“Then like a giant underground cavern under Pennsylvania where the government keeps 28,000 file cabinets full of personnel records, things where I'm writing about an agency doing something stupid and they're hostile to me and don't want to help me. And so I got practice sort of building a story around the outside. So like the underground mine in Pennsylvania, the people who run that wasteful thing don't want to talk about it, don't want to let me in. So then I had to go find all the people who used to work there and their friends build a story without the cooperation and then come back to the agency and say, look, I know everything about your weird mind.”
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“I never asked about that later. The politico stories about price at HHS have been amazing, but things like, I wrote a long story about the National Raisin Reserve, which you didn't know we had a national, we do have a national strategic raisin reserve.”
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“I was covering the environment had for a long time and felt like I had in 2010 there had been a giant coal mine explosion in West Virginia that I'd spent a lot of time covering and there had been the Deepwater Horizon oil spill that I'd spent a lot of time on. And it felt like the environment beat was kind of at the middle of everything that year in a way that it would not be again. And so they offered me a chance to go cover politics. And at the time, the post was sort of shrinking. We were unsure about our future, but it seemed like the thing that we were going to do, the last thing we were going to do was politics. And so if you wanted a future at the post, if you wanted to be the place where we thought was the middle of our mandate, that was politics. So I said yes and moved over, first covered Congress and then covered like government waste, other presidential campaigns, all kinds of things within politics.”
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“So, I covered the police during the day, like the police chief, and then I've done all kinds of things the environment. I was the New England Bureau chief for a year, and I've been on politics since about 2010.”
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“And Trump called me the next day. Roger Stone doesn't speak for me. And Stone was in all the meetings at this point. And I mean, I knew this directly. And it was an education. And it was an education I shouldn't have needed, but as with a lot of this, until you experience a directly, you don't really understand how unusual it is. Anyway, so when I thought what was going to happen was that Clinton was going to win. I wasn't certain of it. I was reminded by a friend that I had said at a barbecue where I had bumped into her in May of 2016 that I thought Trump might win, just based on how things were going at that point. But I still thought Clinton was the likely winner. I would go back and do whatever. I wasn't going to cover the White House, and I would see my children.”
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“I mean, I knew him from covering New York City. I knew him for, and I knew him from 2011, which is where I really developed a relationship with him. And where I discovered the sort of number one rule about him is that in his brain, two things are true. No one speaks for him except him, even if he actually has a spokesman who's calling you saying, I'm his spokesperson. And he believes that facts can be changed so that they are something other than maybe what you thought they were a day ago. So, for instance, to that was that I did this interview with Roger Stone in 2011, who's Trump's longest serving inside, outside advisor. He has always had one foot sort of on the outside, I think recognizing, frankly, you survive longer that way with Trump. But I did this whole interview with him, and it was all about Trump. It was all about how Trump would run. It really wasn't about Roger.”
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“And I was looking for a lane. So I picked up Trump because nobody seemed very interested in Trump. And I knew him and I knew his people.”
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“I went there actually from the post. I went back to the, I was not happy at the Daily News. I went back to the post. It just was a better fit for me. And I went to Politico from the post because it was a different job. It was national, and the post had, you know, the tabloids in New York City have an uncertain future. Now, they've had this uncertain future for a very long time, and they are doing better than newspapers in some other major cities just because of the unique nature of the New York City media market. But it was just a chance to make a jump. And so I made the jump. And I also didn't really have a clear role there, but I ended up covering 2012 with my colleague Alex Burns, who's now at the Times with me, who is one of my closeest collaborators. But in 2015, when I went to the Times, Alex went to the Times the same year. It wasn't really clear what I was going to be doing.”
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“Exactly. And so in 2015, I joined the Times for a sort of unclear assignment. I just was joining the team. I had been covering Clinton. Can I stop you?”
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“And it was just completely, it was like you were plugging your fingers into some kind of matrix of the city. It was just constantly alive. And I went from there, I covered City Hall, I covered Rudy Giuliani's final term. I covered Mike Bloomberg's campaign, which felt similar to me to this year because I was very angry when I was assigned to cover Bloomberg's campaign because he was the loser who had no chance of winning. He was the laugher candidate. And then he became the mayor. I ended up at the Daily News back at the post, went to Politico. I covered in 2011 Donald Trump's flirtation with running for president. And I had dealt with him at the post because at the tabloids he was just omnipresent and he was constantly calling page six the gossip page very often as a source close to Trump. Sources close to the”
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“The New York Press in the 1990s was a pretty amazing place to work because it had just been taken over again by Rupert Murdoch, who did and does love the paper. I mean, for all of the criticisms of him, he could still walk into the newsroom and lay the paper out, which most newspaper publishers and owners these days can't do.”
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“Unless you have something. Unless you have Some prompt stories. I'm going to do that on a panel with my father later. Later on this morning, I started at the New York Post in 1996 as a copy kid. I couldn't get a job at a magazine, which is where I wanted to work. I was at Sarah Lawrence. No one would hire me. So I got a job for, I think it was something like $8 an hour as a clerk. And I remember the first day thinking this is very, very strange place to work. And after about a day, just the rhythm of the newsroom completely bit me. I loved it.”
2017-09-25 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maggie Haberman, New York Times, and David Fahrenthold, Washington Post · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. All right. So let's begin. Let's start with you, Maggie. I love to, when I interview most people, I ask how they got to where they got. So why don't each of you, first Maggie and then David sort of briefly talk about how you got to the situation you find yourselves in right now.”
2017-09-25 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maggie Haberman, New York Times, and David Fahrenthold, Washington Post · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT