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Marc Goodman

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“I'm at Singularity University, so I teach there. We have a bunch of great executive programs. And other than that, on a plane somewhere travel in the world.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We were basically via electronic message into his ear telling him, you know, stay pat, whole, double down, all of that stuff. And in just forty-eight hours, you know, 33 million bucks. So the cameras that are meant to protect us, if they're not locked down and encrypted, can definitely be used against us.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Awesome. There was a case called The Crown Casino in Melbourne, Australia. This happened about a year ago, and a man comes in and starts playing poker, and he's doing really, really well. He ends up playing for two days, almost straight, and he walks away from the crown casino in Melbourne, Australia with thirty three million dollars playing poker, gets back on a plane and flies back to his home country in Asia. What the hell happened? Because the casino got cleaned out. They had no idea. They ended up looking at it, and it turns out that he was part of a hacker team that went ahead and hacked the security cameras and casinos. You know, all casinos have a ton of cameras and the hackers that were working with this guy had given him an earpiece. And so by having commandeered the casino's own security system, they could see perfectly clearly what the dealer's cards were and the players of all the different players at the table.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Incident where it was reported that seventy six thousand camera systems had been compromised and were being live streamed to the web. So you could log in because all of these cameras had been hacked and easily taken over and you could see women sitting on the couch. You could see people in their bedroom having sex. You could see mothers breastfeeding their kids, people sitting in dry cleaners, you know, cooking stuff at bakeries. So we think these systems are there to protect us, but in fact they can be compromised and used in really interesting ways. If you have time, I'll tell you another funny story about that.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. Talking about cameras, you know, I mentioned earlier that everything is becoming software or hardware. And cameras are a perfect example of that. You know, we all go ahead and have cameras around us, not just on our cell phones or on our laptops, but everywhere we go, right? There are now cameras at the dry cleaners, cameras at the bakery, cameras at the ATMs. And all of those cameras are connected to the internet and they're all hackable. And some crazy number like 30 to 40 percent of all camera systems have absolutely no password and another thirty or forty percent have the admin password that's written in the manual that's available on PDF on the internet if you google the name of the camera system. So that means they're widely available to be hacked. And yet people use things like baby monitors, nanny cams, things like that to protect themselves. And we're finding that they're just easy marks within the past week, actually, here in late October. We had an”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One that I get commented on all the time is if you look at any of my devices, whether it be my cell phone, my laptop, or my computers at home, they all have yellow stickies over the camera. The fact of the matter is that not only can people hack your camera, but they can hack it in a way such that the little green or red light isn't on. And there's malware out there, so that does this really easily. I mentioned black shades earlier. That will do that. There was a girl called Cassidy Wolf who was Miss Teen America, and she went ahead and had her camera taken over, ultimately we found out by one of her classmates. She clicked on an infected email. And as Miss Teen Americus, seventeen year old girl, was coming out of her own bathroom, you know, after taking a shower, her laptop was open. This creep was going.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's actually called the Cybercrime Headquarters of the world where it's very funny they have something like 500 people in this village, but that one Western Union office in Romania does more than most of Western Europe because of all the illegal cybercrime payments coming in there. And in Nigeria, they have what are called the Yahoo Boys. These are the ones that send out all of those emails trying to trick you. So yeah, there's definitely a very vibrant cybercrime economy out there. A study by McAfee and CSIS, a think tank in DC estimated the global cyber economy at $400 billion a year. Tremendous.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You that if you're doing anything interesting on the internet or in your personal life, there's somebody who's trying to get access to it. It may not be an individual hacker sitting at a keyboard targeting you because, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of these attacks can be scripted. The thing I hear all the time is I've got nothing to hide. I've got nothing to lose. Then you don't lead a very interesting life if that's the case. I would think we all have something at risk here. And so you should be testing those assumptions. And because if you're not trying to hack yourself, the bad guys are so better that you uncover those threats first.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That you and I seem to have in talking about this stuff and figuring out what can go wrong because most people are good people. They don't think like bad guys, right? And I put handcuffs on bad guys for 20 years all over the world. I know how they think. So if you're not trained in that, it's not at all obvious. It's also important to realize that not everything needs to go into a computer. Both Coca-Cola and Kentucky Fried Chicken KFC, the secret recipes for their food, is not in any electronic system and be retrieved. It's air gapped written down on a piece of paper. So if it's really important, think about that. We talked about some of the travel tips earlier. The last thing that I would mention is to red team and test your assumptions. Red team is a term from the military. You kind of have the blue team and the red team, the blue team is the United States. The red team is always the bad guys. And the military trains this way where they use sets of bad guys to try to break their stuff. I can guarantee.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, so for the folks that are working in this startup world, and I advise a lot of different startups, as I know that you do, you know, they're running around crazy trying to get their beta out. They want to get to ship their code, whatever their product is. And so probably the very last thing on their list is security. They don't think about it. And so for a company, you need to think about these issues, right? Because all you have is your intellectual property. And they're actually companies out there that specialize them in a Facebook is launched. They create the German version of Facebook. They create the Chinese version of eBay. And so ripping off your IP is very much what they do. So both for startups and particularly for larger corporations, one thing I often suggest is that you need to be keenly aware of what's going on with your competition and with your own company. So that goes back to implementing an open source intelligence program. You also need to have somebody who's in charge of your security and kind of thinks with the more of a conspirial mind.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct, yeah. If you're logged onto your personal, your MacBook Air or a Windows machine or a Samsung machine, whatever it is, your laptop, your home computer, it's really wise to never run it as an administrator.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A VPN, a virtual private network. This way any of the information that is transiting from your computer to the Internet is encrypted from that point to point. If you're not and you're sitting at a local Starbucks, I can go ahead and just Because if you click on the email from the Nigerian prince by accident and get your computer infected, if you're already logged in under an admin account, then that code needs no further permissions to go ahead and infect you and to get onto your machine. But if you're on a user account and you get that infection in order to change the system files, it will ask you to enter in your password, which should be a good clue that you've been hacked.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have a different name and password for all of your sites. Now, I know people will say to me, oh great Mark, how am I going to remember 300 passwords? And this one wants a capital letter and the other one wants the name of my favorite child actress. And it's all too complex. There are a number of pieces of software out there called password managers or password wallets that I recommend. You have to use some caution because guess what? Organized crime have created their own versions of those. So they'll upload something. It's like super number one best password program and get it into the Android PlayStar and tens of thousands of people download it and of course your passwords are just being fed to organized crime in the background. So I recommend one password. There's another one called last pass which is quite good. And then there's key pass K-E-P-A-S-S-S, which is an open source version. So definitely do not use the same password. If you're in a public space, always make sure that you...”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, so what people don't, what that isn't saying, it sounds really nice when they say, oh, there's an update. What it really means is our software has been riddled with security holes for the past six months since the previous update, and we're now finally fixing them. So, you know, there's the flip side of that. I would say always make sure that your software is up to date across all of your devices and keep that updated. Another thing you can do, I am not a fan of single sign-on and using the same password to log on to, you know, all your services. The challenge with that is if your account at Target gets hacked and you use your same target email and log in across multiple sites. Now, the bad guys, and they do routinely do this. Once they get 100 million accounts from Target, they're taking your Target name and password and they're trying it at Bank of America and Citibank and they're trying it at Facebook and Google. So if you should definitely.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. I can throw out some tips for individuals and then some for startups and companies. So on the individual front, you know, common sense actually is not so common and the number of people that will click on links and open attachments is really high as a really strong piece of advice. Just don't do that. It's really bad cyber hygiene. And I talk about the concept of cyber hygiene. And the idea of keeping yourself clean. And if you think about, you know, sexually transmitted diseases, if you're not clean, you transmit it to other people. The same is true with our computers. So don't do that. Another thing that you can do is make sure that your computer or your mobile phone is constantly up to date. Have you ever been sitting in front of your computer when you get a little notification like, hey, there's a new update to Windows or there's a new update to iOS or something like that. Have you come across those?”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that's an important point I'd love to make, I'm not saying, by the way, technology is bad. You know, I like you live in Silicon Valley. I'm a huge proponent of technology. It has the opportunity to bring tremendous abundance and positive good to the world. But as you mentioned, whether it be a knife can be used by a surgeon to heal or by a criminal to kill. And it's just about how we use it.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The identity theft can do the denial of service attacks, can do that for you, it can run in the background twenty four seven, you know, three hundred sixty five days a year to carry out that crime. That's why it scales and that's why the profits are so high. And, you know, a lot of the principles in the four-hour work week have been implemented by organized crime. I'm not saying they read your book, but I'm saying that the logic that you developed in a lot of this, you know, people are seeing that. And so now we have fully automated crime. It's algorithms that are carrying it out and AI.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's only going to grow. And so my big fear and concern that I write about in future crimes, the book, is the fact that our systems of justice and law and order and public safety are all deeply, deeply linear, and yet the threat is entirely exponential. And we're seeing criminals use algorithms, right? You know why you can rob 100 million people? Because computer crime has been reduced to an algorithm. The old days, I talked about the movie war games earlier, the old day was you'd have the high school kid with the bag of Doritos and monster or Red Bull sitting at his computer hacking away at all hours. You don't need to do that anymore. You can write scripts that carry out crime. You've heard of software as a service. Guess what? There's crime as a service. You can actually go out there and buy programs like Black Shades and others that will go out there and commit crime for you. And so when a computer program can do”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And everybody you robbed might shoot back and kill you. So technology came along that actually improved upon that business model. And the technology was the locomotive. Now rather than robbing one person at a time, we could rob 200 people at a time. Now, when they created trains, nobody thought about that. But of course, that was a consequence. Fast forward today to the days of the internet, and we've had hacks like at Target and the Sony PlayStation hack before that where one hundred million people were simultaneously victims of a crime. In the target hack one third of all Americans were affected by that. So if you talk about exponentials, we've gone from criminals robbing one person to one single lone individual being able to rob one hundred million people. That is the complete paradigm shift in crime. And because it's”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Healthcare fraud could Watson commit how much identity theft could Watson commit. The fact of the matter is that day in and day out we are turning over more and more of our lives to algorithms. People worry about individual bits of data being stolen, but that's like kind of a low level threat. Of course that's happening. The bigger threat is having our algorithm hacks. Algorithms are very complex mathematical formulae that go out there and carry out everything from the anti-brake system in your car to the GPS navigation used by aircraft around the world to all the trading on the stock floors. And those are all algorithms. And we've seen a couple of really crazy wacky things going on in the world of algorithms such, you know.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So IBM built this computer called Watson, and it's doing a narrow AI and it played against the top-top Jeopardy champs and just kicked their butts, right? So this big computer with a funny voice called Watson was able to beat the best champions in the world at Jeopardy. And before that, you know, we had our greatest chess champions being beaten by computer. But the question that people don't realize or don't often ask themselves is, what would happen if Watson turned to a life of crime? Right? How much.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's kind of the sky AI that people fear will run the planet. And there are some concerns about both. Broadly speaking, you know, we all saw, or most of us may have seen the television episode for Jeopardy when IBM's Watson was playing. Did you happen to catch that?”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is a great question. It's actually very much in the news today. Elon Musk, and I quote him in my book, talks about the threat from AI being greater than nukes. And Stephen Hawking actually put an op-ed in the independent in London about a month or two ago where he was very cautious about a widespread adoption of AI just for folks who aren't particularly familiar with AI. There are generally two types. There's the narrow AI. That's the artificial intelligence that goes ahead and puts a recommendation for you out there on Netflix or Amazon about what book you might like if you enjoyed this movie you might like this movie. So that kind of narrow AI is widespread and ubiquitous. It's AI that allows you to talk to American airlines while you're on hold. And we're seeing that every place. And then there's the broader, more widespread AI, which is kind of artificial general intelligence.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We had that right now in the past couple of weeks. We've had all these innocent high school students who were just murdered allegedly by the mayor and the police in the town. So I can make up a story, but I don't know the exact breakdown of what it is my gut tells me based upon what I've read and researched that brought, you know, there's some percentage of this that is drug dealer on drug dealer violence. So one cartel fighting with another. The others are people that won't go along with the narcos and what they are up against and what they want to do. So they get taken out law enforcement officers get taken out. And then there's just a tremendous number of casualties when the trucks come through the little town and everybody shooting AKs and M16s and then, you know, five-year-olds get gunned down as kind of collateral damage.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“kidnapped hackers. They've kidnapped like top hackers off the street and brought them back to their headquarters and say, hey, you decrypt this or I'm going to kill you. And the payback once somebody is identified as being a potential snitch for the Narcos have been draconian. You know, it's kind of gross and you can edit this out if you need be. But to make their point, some of the narcos have gone ahead and kidnapped some of these folks who are using tools like Google Maps to crowdsource what was going on with the drug dealers and their activities. kidnapped them and killed them and decapitated them and taken their heads and brought them to the central square of the town like right in front of the church when everybody shows up on Sunday morning and they took two computer keyboards put them in the town square in front of the church that everybody shows up at with a head the human head of the snitch right there and with a note in big letters that said this is what happens to rats”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And by the way, that's exactly happening right now. We're kind of joking about what's going on with the Narco Wars in Mexico, but there have been 50,000 innocent Mexican citizens, nationals that have been slayed in the past six years. So just south of our border, 50,000 people, right? You know, more than live in Palo Alto or the suburb of New York have been murdered. And so there's a massive war going on between the people. We talked about crowdsourcing before. There's a ton of incredibly brave Mexican citizens who are actually crowdsourcing the location and activities of the Narcos and they're using open source tools like Google Maps to report dope dealers and bring that information forward. The dope dealers have gotten hip to that and have now actually gone ahead and killed off a bunch of these citizen reporters. And so to protect themselves now, those guys are using encryptions and the Narcos have gone out there and actually kidnapped.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In really amazing way. So Narcos are using robots, they are flying drones, they've got drug subs. There are now quadcopter drones. An octocopter drones that can carry like thousand kilo loads of cocaine and marijuana across the Mexican-American border. We're starting to see that. There are 2,000 tons carried by remote controlled narco subs. Some of the Colombian cartels literally have a R&D budget. So the cocaine cartels in Colombia have like $5 million allocated to R&D for robotics because the day that they can launch autonomous He was actually listed at number one on the Forbes wealthiest list ahead of Oprah and French President Sarkozy, right? So the amount of money, by the way, to put $200 million in perspective, Interpol's annual budget is $90 million.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“System at State Penn or at the local level in federal penitentiary. So the cost of maintaining that most of those folks are there for drugs one way or the other. So there's certainly an economic cause to be put forth. And again, I'd refer you to Ethan Neilman, who makes that way better than I can. I don't know that the government anytime soon is going to see this more as a public health issue and focus on demand reduction. Right now, public policy in the United States has been almost heavily geared towards supply reduction. So let's go ahead and drop Napalm on cocaine fields in Colombia and that'll solve it. And of course, as the people in Latin America, the Mexican president and others have mentioned, well, don't blame us. You guys are the ones that want to buy it. So it's really complex, right? How this works, I will mention that the narcos are all over the drug trade from all over the technology space.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, you're asking for a particularly interesting public policy and political question. There are plenty of folks who are advocating for this. There's a great talk by a gentleman called Ethan Nadelman, who I just saw speak down at Ted Global, who really gives a very powerful and compelling talk for why drugs should be legalized. And you can Google that and find his talk. We're kind of seeing the beginnings of that now with marijuana and there are other countries like the Netherlands that have allowed people to be on heroin for years and put them on methadone. So there have been lots of different experiments around this. I would say I don't know that the public policy and more importantly the politics around this is there yet, but you can certainly look at the cost of what it is doing to our society, particularly here in the United States. We have the largest incarcerated population in the world. I think there are something like three million people that are somehow in the criminal justice.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“loaf of bread that is just as powerful as cocaine. So there are some really interesting opportunities there moving forward. It's going to make for some really interesting beer and bread in the future.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is because all of those marijuana poppy or cocoa plants are all naturally occurring, you know, substances that contain DNA. You can actually go in and sequence a cocaine plant or poppy seed or any of those things and from that deduce the genetic code for cocoa. And you can go further in and say, well, what's the active ingredient here? And you can isolate that and you can snip that part of the plant or the active ingredient and you could insert it into yeast and then you could grow those yeast and you could bake bread with it and you could make beer with it. So we're not quite there yet, but all of these things are very close off on the horizon and it completely breaks our current global security model around narcotics because again we have these big fields and we look for the big fields and we have dope sniffing dogs when you arrive at the airport or going through customs and immigration, but they're not going to smell.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so you've hit on a really, really interesting point, which is, you know, in the same way that Apple can go ahead and disrupt Microsoft and Google can disrupt somebody else. The fact of the matter is that the old school original gangsters and narco dealers are going to be faced with some challenges to their business model from a new generation of joke dealers. And it's going to be really fascinating. So to your point, when you think about what is required for the production of cocaine today or heroin, right? You need these massive fields of cocoa leaves or marijuana plants or poppy plants, etc. And that is really tough for the dopillers. A, they're expensive to maintain. They have a very huge footprint in terms of hectares and hectares of fields that need to be maintained. And they're easy for law enforcement to detect. So now, thanks to synthetic biology, one of the amazing things that you can do.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the money that Dread Pirate Roberts brought in in those 30 months was $1.2 billion. So $1.2 billion in 30 months of methamphetamine, AK-47s, Uzis, child pornography, fake passports, whatever you're looking for, you could buy it there. And because Silk Road operated kind of like eBay where the house took a cut of everything they sold, Dread Pirate Roberts is alleged to have amassed a personal fortune of one hundred ten million dollars. So let's say you're a 28-year-old entrepreneur and kids don't do this out there, but if you're a 28-year-old entrepreneur, you know, going from zero to 1.2 billion dollars in 30 months, he had a relatively successful exit except for the life imprisonment he's facing. But other than that, you know, pretty good gig.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And law enforcement hang out. So I'm sure you will be familiar with the Silk Road and what went on in that case. It broke very close to you in San Francisco. And the fact of the matter is Dread Pirate Roberts, the alleged person who was running that, had the largest drug website in the world. And whether or not you like drugs or not, whatever your position may be, a National Institute of Health Drug Abuse Agency study said at some point 20% of all narcotics purchased in the United States transited the Silk Road.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ah, you have to go underground. The quickest way to do that, I mean, one of the ways that people do it is by using Tor, the onion router. So that's a specialized piece of software actually produced by the U.S. Navy and it was meant originally to help democracy and human rights activists overseas bypass their national firewalls, whether in China or Iran so that they can get around to communicate. It was very useful for their personal safety. And there's a million great reasons why you would use Tor again if you want in the wake of Snowden, if you wanted to go ahead and have good encryption of the information you're looking for, then Tor is a great useful tool for that with some noted limitations. But the other side of that is that there's something called Tor hidden services. And if you're running this particular piece of software, you can now get access to a whole world that you don't know exists. So this is where hackers and terrorists and hacktivists and spy agencies.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Search Google, they're searching the internet. And when you're searching Google, in reality you're only searching about 0.03% of all the available electronic information stored on the planet.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Targets, you yourself can go out there and use tools you talked about reputation dot com and others, but there are lots of tools out there that will allow people to get really good open source information on themselves and the threats against them. And that's one of the key steps that I always mention to my corporate clients is that they need to go ahead and implement an open source intelligence program because if you are working on a secret project, let's say, you know, it's the latest iPhone or you're working on the latest version of Android, something that you don't want people to know about. If you've got your search engines up and running and you start seeing people talking about it or sales lists are leaking out there or employees resumes are out there showing that they're about to jump to the competition, you know, there's just a lot of stuff that you can detect. And the other point that I tell them is, and most people don't realize this, is make sure that you're looking in the digital underground. So most people think, you know, when they...”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, good advice. Don't do that Generally speaking, every person you work with is unique and different. So I work with a lot of folks of high net worth and a lot of general public corporations. And the advice is very specific on what people's threats are. So for some people, the biggest threat to a hedge fund manager may be that their son or daughter is addicted to meth. And that's bringing all types of other people into their home that causes them difficulty. In others, it may be some of their personal proclivities, things that they're looking for online that could be personally embarrassing mistresses, extramarital affairs, all of that type of stuff. So those are the general things that you look at. And then you work up a pret, a threat profile. That's something that I find that most individuals don't do. And certainly most corporations don't do. And the fact of the matter is in the same way that hackers are using the internet to gather lots of information about their”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would have them hire a guy who didn't discuss their security plan on a podcast with Tim Ferris. My first piece of advice.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you hit on something major right there, which is actually that is one of the major causes of infections to people's computers, is that they're clicking on the wrong link. And in the old days, you used to be able to tell a phishing email because they used bad English, bad grammar. Now they're perfectly well crafted and a spear phishing email targeting a specific individual or executive is even more so. So you have to be really careful. Basically, my general rule of thumb is don't click on links. If people send me a link, I'll call them and say, hey, did you send this to me? And they think I'm crazy, but I don't click on links.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Your account is overdrawn for the Exactly. And if I could just give one general tip, something to keep in mind, and you know, I don't know everybody that's going to listen to your podcast, but I'm going to postulate that most of your listeners actually do not know a prince in Nigeria. If you get an email from a prince in Nigeria, do not click on it. He's not your friend. He doesn't know you.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With your sales figures, the thing that mostly the Chinese are interested in besides intellectual property is they're very aggressive about being helpful to their state backed industry. So if you're over there as an American businessman or woman or regardless of what country you're from and you're negotiating a deal with the Chinese, they'll be very careful about monitoring your email, what you're doing, and any negotiations that you may be having with your counterpart.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A hotel in a potentially hostile territory, whether it be Iran, China, you know, whatever country you're traveling to. They have the ability to insert malware onto both your phone and your computer the minute your device connects to their network. So you know when you have to log into the hotel webpage to pay, that's when the handshake takes place and that's when your device gets infected. So that's step one. If you go ahead and leave your laptop in any hotel safe, routinely the hotel security gives access to the local police so they all know the combinations anybody can open up one of those saves incredibly easily. So what I would recommend is if you bring technology, carry it on you if you want to hold on to it. I would limit the amount of information you put on it. I would certainly consider what we call a throwaway laptop or mobile phone and I would make sure that those devices were encrypted. If you know you're going to call 10 people when you're over there, have those 10 phone numbers and don't walk out there with all of your contacts with your business plan.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“4,000 people and presented from his laptop. After his presentation was over to very young, pretty Chinese women approached him, and they were ever so subtly just moving their own bodies to get him to turn away from his own laptop. He had a lovely conversation, and when he turned around, his laptop was gone. Now the big mistake in that particular case is not that he brought a laptop per se, but as the chairman of Intel he actually had the designs for one of the latest pentium chips, some extremely valuable intellectual property on the computer that disappeared along with the laptop. My general rule of thumb is, you know, laptops as you, you know, netbooks, whatever they are, they're just a couple hundred bucks today. If you can afford a trip to China, you should be able to afford a laptop. You can bring a dummy phone with you. And just to give you an idea of some of the information that leaks, the minute you connect to...”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that is an awesome, awesome question, and it's one that people don't think about nearly often enough, you know, whether it be an executive from Houston or New York City or those in Silicon Valley. Obviously, business will take them to the most populous nation on earth, the People's Republic of China. And there, the rules are very different in terms of what the so-called police can do and how they will treat you and your technology. So all I would say is if you're going over there for business pay close attention. The fact of the matter is their screening of you begins when you fill out your visa application, right? It's nothing there is random. So why do you have to do a visa application? Because they want to know who you are. And if you're interested and if you're Andy Grove from Intel traveling into China, they're going to pay attention to you. And I'll give you one simple example, and this was reported several years ago, Andy Grove, the former chairman of Intel, actually took a flight into Beijing. He gave a lecture before.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The plane see the piece of cardboard with their name on it, walk up to the person who also took the limousine, was dressed like a limousine driver, got into a car and was kidnapped as a result. And there were actually a few people that were killed. So my point is that most people are very trusting, and they should be. That's the way you want to live life, that you want to be happy and think about that stuff. When everybody thinks like that, those who think differently, for example, criminals, terrorists, and others, it's really easy to subvert the system. cardboard can be hacked.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so guess what? Cardboard can be hacked. Sometimes people lie and sometimes the person holding the sign is not the person that you expect them to be. So about three years ago, four years ago, in Mexico City when smartphones first came out, organized crime groups and narcos were hanging out at the Mexico City airport. And with all the signs up this at Mr. Smith from Dow Chemicals and Mrs. Jones from whatever the company may be, the bad guys were sitting there and they were using their smartphones to Google the people whose names were on the signs and looking for those that they estimated to be of the greatest net worth. Once they figured out who that was, the criminals were going up to the chauffeurs and saying, you know, here's a hundred pesos, get out of here and we'll kill you or we'll kill you. And they were taking the cardboard sign, the executive flying in from New York, San Francisco, London would then get off.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, this is just something that occurred in Mexico City a couple of years ago when smartphones were first starting to come in. The cops in Mexico noticed a phenomenon that was really weird. So I'm sure this has happened to you. You get off an airplane in another city and somebody's holding a piece of cardboard with your name on it and you walk up to them. Have you done that?”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In that precinct. Now, we had other guys in other precincts that we could call, but that's three police cars, six guys and gals, you know, for 400,000 people. So yes, the thin blue line can be quite thin at times. And I'm always encouraging people to be prepared to have a plan, to be cognizant of the threats. Now, you can take that to an extreme. You can say, I have to have a bunker. I need to live underground. We need to be prepared for, you know, nuclear Armageddon. And that's not the way that I choose to live my life. But I think common sense tools, first aid kit have”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess I would say it depends on your philosophy in life and how you choose to live your life. You were talking about 30 or 40 fire engines for the city of San Francisco. There were nights when I was working with the LAPD on Morning Watch midnight to 8. And for a precinct that had 400,000 people living in it, we had three police cars on the road.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT