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Marc Goodman

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“It doesn't matter put them through a background, get them cleared and part of the solution because we definitely need their help.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Private sector that fully is versed in technology. There's a global community of people that could contribute significantly to this problem. And I think that it would be a great opportunity to get them engaged. And the last thing I would mention, particularly since we are living so much of our lives online, staring at screens on our smartphones or on our computers every single day, there's a part of our life that is taking place in cyberspace. And yet we don't have a common defense force for cyberspace. So, you know, for a hundred years, we've had reserve army. We've had reserve and auxiliary police officers. We don't have any equivalent for that in cyberspace. And so when the big cyber attack comes, we're going to have a paucity of resources and talent to respond. One of the things I call for is the building of a national cyber reserve corps. Take average ordinary citizens, men and women, young and old.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That are trying to make a difference, they're just fundamentally mismatched. And that's what we need to deal with. You know, if somebody came into your house and broke into it and stole something, you dial 911. If some kids spray painted your car or your house, you'd call the police, you'd file a report for vandalism. And yet we have the equivalent of these things going on every single day in our homes, in our computers, on our cell phones, on our tablets. And if you dialed 911 to report a computer virus, the cops would come for you as opposed to sending a card to investigate it. So I think from that angle, we need to get average and everyday citizens involved in this. On the one hand, law enforcement has very limited resources. It doesn't work internationally. And not all agencies are particularly well schooled on the cyber threat. Whereas in you know this living in San Francisco and Silicon Valley, there's tremendous talent in the”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The Red Cross would give you the same type of advice for the California Office of Emergency Services, FEMA, there are any number of good types. That's a system that works quite well if you look at what's going on with al Shabab and others in Africa. It's a different story. But in cyberspace, it's a complete every man for himself type scenario. What I find fascinating is that from the most part, law enforcement has abdicated any responsibility for cybercrime. Now, I know that some of my colleagues in law enforcement might take issue with that. And certainly they're trying hard, but the volume of the threat and the nature of the technology makes law enforcement nearly impossible as a solution for the cyber threat. I talk about law enforcement as a nation-state type solution, right? A policeman in New York cannot make an arrest in Moscow and vice versa. And so law enforcement is a local solution to a global problem. So no matter how good the cops get, even though there are organizations like Interpol,”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Traffic, but it's not a black swan event Keeps me up at night. When I talked about that, I was speaking more broadly about kind of the cyber threat, but it's also true in physical space as well. I mean, the fact of the matter is that the line between kind of order and society and chaos is actually quite thin in law enforcement. They talk about the thin blue line. And I was a patrol officer in Los Angeles during the LA riots. And what I realized is the police are in charge as long as the public wants them to be in charge. Once the public decides that they are not in charge, you are no longer in charge. I think LA had 1.7 police officers for every hundred thousand citizens at that point. And so if you make the citizens really, really mad, as was the case during the Rodney King incident, then it's over. And there's nothing you can do. So in physical space, I mean, all the basic stuff that you talk about, the prepper movement.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So the fact of the matter is back in 2008 terrorists were using search engines like Google to determine who shall live and who shall die. And though it's a black swan event, and I know you talk about those, the fact of the matter is when you're sharing in Facebook, it's not just, you know, the media and marketing companies that you need to be concerned about. When you share openly, everybody has access to this. And even though it's a black swan, we're an event that could be terrorists, organized criminals as well.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They came across his photograph as it turns out he was not a school teacher, he was the head of one of the second largest banks in India called ING. They came across his photo and then we know from the intercepted conversation, which we only discovered after the fact that the terrorist war room said, hey, we found a picture of your guy. Is your hostage heavy set? Yes. Does he have glasses? Yes. Is he kind of bald? Yes. Okay, we found him. The terrorist then said to their op center, what shall we do? And then the order came down. Kill him.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alone, I'm just an innocent school teacher. Well, the terrorists were dumb, but to your point about not being that dumb, they looked at this guy and staying in a suite at the Taj Mahal beautiful hotel, and they said, there's no way any Indian school teacher could afford this suite. They picked up his ID at his bedside and then they phoned it in via a satellite phone to the terrorist war room that was set up across the border in Pakistan. There in the war room, the terrorists were monitoring live, they had IBN, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, and a bank of computers where they were doing real-time research. So you had the 10 operatives from Lakshaiba, an Al-Qaeda affiliate based in Pakistan that were carrying out the attack broken down into five teams of two terrorists. And then you had the terrorist war room. So when they phoned in the name of this guy to the terrorist war room, they simply Googled him.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They had satellite phones, satellite imagery, encrypted blackberries that used Skype type VoIP communications during the incident because they had all that technology, they had phenomenal situational awareness, situational awareness that beat the capacity of the Indian National Guard and the Mumbai police to respond, and they used it to great effect to actually kill more people. There's an example I talk about in the book of a man called K. R. Ramaporti, who was staying at the Taj Mahal Hotel in Mumbai. You may have been there. It's one of the most beautiful hotels in the world. And when the terrorists took over the hotel, they started going room to room trying to find more hostages. And they came across Mr. Ramaporti, who was on the top floor in a suite at the Taj, and they broke into his room and they said to him, well, who are you? And what are you doing here? And he said, oh, no, I'm nobody. Leave me alone.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Year ago, we saw the tourists from Al Shabab, the militants, were incredibly sophisticated in how they were using social media and Twitter. They were live tweeting the entire event and they were actually mocking the Kenyan police force and military guards throughout the incident, putting out information, adding to the confusion. And ISIS or the Islamic State has been doing the same exact thing. You mentioned earlier also the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack. In my humble opinion, that was perhaps one of the most sophisticated terrorist attacks we've seen to date from a technological perspective. Ten terrorists were able to keep a city, a metropolitan area of twenty million people completely shut down for sixty hours. So ten guys, not just armed with standard weapons RDX explosives, hand grenades, but these guys had night vision goggles.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talking about the importance of encryption. So they follow the news very, very closely and are paying attention to it. They show tremendous sophistication. Let's go back to biofrages. That occurred at ninety five, what most people didn't realize about Amshamrinkio is the fact that they had a bioweapons project. They spent a million dollars a year for ten years from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety five trying to develop a powerful bioweapon, and the science wasn't there yet for them to be able to do it. That's why they went with the chemical sering gas attack. Today, things like that would be much more trivial given the wide availability of biotoxins and other type of infectious threats that are available online. The code is there. You can download it, basically build some of these things in your basement or garage and release them. Another area where we see terrorists playing in really interesting ways are both robotics and social media and open source intelligence. And I'll just give a few crazy examples. So during the terror attack at the Westgate Mall that occurred in Nairobi about”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure, which I'd love to hear. Yeah, I mean, on the terrorist front, you're exactly right. People tend to underestimate them, you know, when we were first going into Iraq and Afghanistan, we talked about people with towels on their heads living in caves and what could they possibly do to defeat us. And as we saw, they were able to put up quite a hell of a fight. And, you know, Iman al-Zawahiri, who was Osama bin Laden's number two, was an MD. He was a trained physician, right? So there were any number of doctors that are in these terrorist organizations. We've seen them recruiting specifically on terrorist chatboards. They're looking for people with scientific backgrounds with technological backgrounds. One terrorist by the name of Irhabi 007, he took the 007 from James Bond. And he was like basically the CIO for Al-Qaeda for a while running their technology in the wake of the Snowden disclosures. There's been a ton of chatter on terrorist chatboards.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I agree with that. I'll give you a perfect example. There's a medicine called Warfrin, which is a blood thinner, and there's a certain small percentage of people that have a genetic marker that makes them allergic to that. And it's deadly if taken. So that would be a perfect example. It's a common pharmaceutical that they exist today, and it's not something that you can see by looking at somebody whether or not they're allergic to warfarin. But if ingested, right? Now you have that additional piece of information and you know about it and it could be fatal.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am sure will happen. You know, we know today that presidential candidates are forced one way or the other to release their medical records to show that they're fit and ready for office. I guarantee that that will be happening with presidential genomes in the future. And in fact, I talked about this. I wrote an article with two friends of mine, Stephen Kotler, who you may know and Andrew Hessel, a synthetic biologist, and it was in the Atlantic Monthly, and it was called Hacking the President's DNA and was all about what those risks would look like and a number of biothreats that could be launched if you had access to somebody's genetic material. So for most folks, I don't think they have to worry about biohacking today, but from a privacy perspective, I think I would definitely take precautions and the ones that you mentioned about using a prepaid credit card, for example, or having it shipped to a third party and all of that stuff, I think, are good logical comments.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's about as far as I've gone. The short story is it's kind of a dystopian future where everybody is judged based upon their DNA. So let's say you want to be a scientist or you want to be an astronaut based upon your genetic profile, they'll say, nope, you know what, Tim, you're not quite what we're looking for. And everybody's social strata is determined by their DNA. And what people presume that means. So I won't say that exactly we'll be living in the Gattica future, but for example, if there are genetic markers for sexual orientation, for example, which some people suggest there are, there are definitely genetic markers for predispositions to violence. Could be for schizophrenia and other diseases. The opportunities from a public policy law and ethics perspective to have your genetic material leak or the information about you and get out into the public sphere.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Again, I don't know what the terms of services are for 23andMe specifically, but I would say the following. If I wanted to get genetic testing, I definitely share your concern and would not be doing it under my own name because we simply don't know where this technology is going. We have an ⁇ vite about the future and what it might look like. I'm not sure if you ever saw the movie Gattica.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, if it's paranoia, you and I are both paranoid because that's the exact advice I give to my friends that want to do the test. So I don't know whether or not this violates their terms and services, but the simple fact of the matter is we have no idea how they're going to use that genetic information. And there are lots of sites out there, and some I mentioned in the book. One is called patients like me. Patients like me was a medical site where people were meant to be sharing confidential medical information with each other and, you know, get help for particularly rarer diseases. And they had something called the mood form, where people were talking about psychotic break, suicidality, and the like. And it turns out the folks that were running it were actually releasing all of that information to insurance companies. And it was mentioned very clearly in their terms of service that they do so. So you think you may be doing something that's safe and secure and private, but in fact, often you're not. So I would always look at the terms of services.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And again, they'll do all different types of cool stuff at Singularity University. We had a startup that was creating a glow-in-the-dark plant because they thought it would be cool. Let's do that. And you can do that. But the challenge with these things are is that not everybody playing with these tools, whether it be genetics, synthetic biology, robotics, artificial intelligence, is of a kind heart. And there are criminals and terrorists and bad guys that now for the first time have access to these tools. And I know you're chomping at the bitch. I'll shut up for a second and then happy to give some examples of what bad guys are doing with bio.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's great news for medicine, right? Every cancer can be treated differently. You will know your proclivities for certain diseases. We'll be able to have really massive impacts on healthcare. But there's a flip side of that. When it costs $3 billion to sequence the human genome and pieces of equipment to do that, we're in the tens of millions of dollars. Only the government or the wealthiest universities could afford that. Now equipment that's sold on eBay a year ago for $100,000 can be bought for $10,000 or $1,000 today. That is putting the tools of genetics and synthetic biology in the hands of the common man. So they're actually high school clubs that are doing genetic sequencing today, right? They have lots of groups. There's something called IGEM, which is a high school and college competition that focuses on this. So today's kids are very much at the cutting edge of science.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Today, most people would certainly never consider going in for a full genetic genome sequencing prohibitively expensive when the U.S. government launched the Human Genome Project back a decade or so ago. They allocated three billion dollars to sequence the first person's genome. And they didn't get it done. They didn't complete it. Craig Ventner, a world-famous biologist came in and worked on the project, built upon the work done by the Human Genome Project, and he was able to sequence in full the first human being for a cost of $300 million about 10 years ago. And fast forward to today, you can actually get a full genetic sequencing for $1,000. And there are companies like 23andMe that will offer you partial genetic sequencing for just $99. Without a doubt within a few years, it'll be the price of a cup of coffee. Everybody will have their full genetic sequence.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you're spot on actually with everything that you just said. In fact, the cost of sequencing human genomes has dropped precipitously and is dropping at five times faster than Moore's law. So with Moore's law, silicon-based technology, ones and zeros, that is doubling every 18 to 24 months, depending on who you ask. And Ray Kurzweil has shown in the singularity is near and many times since that there is this persistent exponential pace of technology. Synthetic biology and genetics are outpacing that by a factor of five. So biological advancements and computational biology were pretty much proceeding at Moore's law's pace until two thousand eight when there were some massive breakthroughs in genetic sequencing which made it go five times faster. So what is the result of that? Well, there'll be tremendous opportunities for each one of us to know our genome. For example,”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just at the very, very earliest days of the internet. And so I guess you would say mistake that a lot of people make is they think we're technologically advanced today, but they have no idea of the tsunami of technology that's coming our way tomorrow.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, people don't realize that. And the big takeaway from that is that never has there been a computer system that could not be hacked. In other words, every computer system is hackable. There are no unhackable machines. And that has some really profound consequences for us as a society and the world that we're building because we're about to add between 50 and 200 billion new devices to the internet, to the Internet of Things, depending on who you ask. will say fifty billion by the year 2020. Intel says 200 billion by the year 2020. The impact of that is that we're going to go from an internet that is theoretically or metaphorically the size of a golf ball today to one that is the size of the sun. Massive, massive increase.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everything is becoming software, everything is becoming a computer. A car is not a car anymore. It's no longer mechanical device. It is 250 computer chips in it at a minimum. So a car is basically a Unix box that we ride in. An elevator is a computer that takes us from floor to floor. As Corey Doctor says, an airplane is a flying.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure, I'd be happy to do that. Basically, my take on this is that folks are very focused on the cybercrime of today, every day in the news, whether it be the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal wearing that target was hacked and Home Depot was hacked and JP Morgan was hacked. And what's interesting to me is that the media treats all of these as distinct incidents. Like, oh, another company was hacked, you know, a bunch of celebrities had their naked photos, you know by a hacker. That stuff is all treated as if it were an individual act. And what people don't see from a $35,000 foot view is that there's a systemic issue going on, which is something I try to mention in future crimes. It's the fact that we have, thanks to Moore's law, which you mentioned earlier, we're just moving at an exponential rate. And so we're plugging more and more things into the internet. And the fact is, as you well know, software is eating the world.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, there's so many different ways to define success. I mean, Martin Luther King joined, you know, as one of the first guys that pops into my head. Clinton was a pretty successful politician. There are lots of folks out there. And of course, any of the entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs and the like.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I like to go for hikes. I like to go outside. I like going to the movie theater, seeing films, hanging out with friends, all the kind of standard stuff. But, you know, for the past year when I was writing the book, it mostly was my butt-in-chair typing.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yesterday I was up at five. The day before I was up at five, and then mostly I would say 637 something in that time frame.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It depends I do a lot of travelling, so it depends on what time zone I'm in and how jet lagged I'm in, but more on the early side these days, I'd say.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Ah, I wake up, I take my dog out for a walk, and then I have breakfast, which I really enjoy. Catch up on some news, emails, and then go and take on the day.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, there were some, I love the old street crime drama. So, you know, having grown up in New York City and kind of been very in tune with the New York City Police Department, there was a book called One Police Plaza by a guy called William Connitz, which I thought was awesome and just really got what policing was and what policing was all about. I thought that was pretty amazing.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But that was before I had my own book. In the future, of course, giving them my book. But up until then, you were my favorite.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Out there, like Matt Molenwig Ah, this sounds like BS, but it's actually been your book, I have to say. I've given it to a ton of people. I run into people all the time, both in law enforcement, friends of mine, folks that are struggling with their careers and trying to think about opportunities to see the world in a different way. And no bullshit. I've actually given away about 10 copies of your book”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Out there because, as I've been told, it's difficult to show, you know, cool hacker stuff on the screen in a way that people understand.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's interesting. It's very funny when you see how Hollywood goes ahead and portrays hacking on the screen. You know, most hackers get a good laugh of what they type at the C prompt. It's pretty funny. But I think actually I have to give a hat tip to Walter Parks who did the original war games because considering that it was in the early 80s before most people were thinking about computers, I mean modems were super slow and incredibly rare. And the fact that he was able to bring that hacker type out there and show that the Department of Defense was connected to the internet and you could change your grades. I mean, he did that 30 or so years ago. So that was really awesome. And I think that's great. Some of the other hacker movies, Sandra Bullock, Vinette, you know, it was a nice movie, not particularly realistic, but there were elements of truth in it. So there's just been a lot of silly hacker movies.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“God, I love film and I love stupid 80s comedy, so Ghostbusters was great and anything of that genre, anything with Bill Murray or Dan Ackrod in it. I'm a fan. And of course, I like all those ADs, hacking movies like war games and sneakers and that type of stuff.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One thing you didn't mention is the fact that I'm a huge fan of Tim Ferris. I really love the four-hour work week, and it's quite an honor for me to be speaking with you today. I actually got one of the earliest editions of the book, and some of the entrepreneurship suggestions that you covered were ideas that I tried to implement in law enforcement and with some difficulty. But I tried, and it was pretty good fun. And I actually took your advice on some of the things you did. I went on an information diet, not a real diet, but an information diet. And I also have a love of foreign languages the way you do and actually enrolled in the heart nextua in Berlin, in Germany, just the way you did. So thank you for your book. That's something else I wanted to mention right off the top.”
2014-12-09 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 48: Marc Goodman, FBI Futurist, on High-Tech Crime and How to Protect Yourself · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT