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  1. And one of the more emotional things we did is that on several occasions the vice president led swearing-in ceremony for new immigrants into our country. He did it on July 4th. He did it now at the National Archives. We did it in the vice president's office on many occasions. And I think it's a very powerful moment. And you see the joy of people becoming American citizens. David, they also, there's also appreciation that they did it the right way.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. I think that if you listen to the vice president, you go back to the speech he gave when he accepted the nomination in 2016. He talks about his grandfather arriving at Ellis Island and who would have thought that a grandson would have been actually nominated to be vice president of the United States one day.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. I don't know. I would hope that my faith informs a lot of my views. But sure. I think that it's hard not to recognize that biblically in many cases our people were in foreign lands. And I think that biblically it informs us to care for aliens in our land. So sure. Sure. But I also think there's plenty of evidence for a strong border security as well in our faith. And I think that, again, that's probably where I come down is to say we need to secure the border. We need that. But there also needs to be a pathway for legal immigration into this country.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. I think there's probably a difference of opinions there among many in the White House. But I think that one of the things that we did see is it is a personal tragedy because there are so many incentives for people to give up their children to coyotes and others to get across the border for financial incentive. I think that there is a much broader coalition to say we have to secure the border first and then we can figure out what we're going to do for those that we need to benefit our economy.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. I think that there's two sides to that coin. On the economic side, I think there are plenty of people in the White House who had criticized that plan. So you're 100% right in sort of a different economic view as to whether or not that's advantageous to our economy. But I think that many of us candidly share the president and many people, I think we're unified in the belief that you have to secure the border first. And I think that there was no separation in the belief that support for building a wall and support for saying we need to make sure this is done legally and that the flow of illegal immigration is a much bigger problem. And I think we saw so much of that.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Also, invest in securing the border but create a legal pathway for people to come in and work in America where the jobs are needed. And that I think was a policy perhaps a little before its time. We'll see, David. But that was my introduction to Mike Pence.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Well, I think that honestly, that was my introduction to Mike Pence because the house partner in that legislation was Mike Pence. And the idea was that I think that there were sort of two camps in our party. One that the Bush presidency was advocating a policies that I think many felt was more amnesty. And then there were others, I think, took a more hardline stance against immigrants. I think that where Senator Hutchison and Mike Pence and many of us felt is that we want America to be a place for immigrants to come. We believe that this is, in many cases, the last best hope and this is a better opportunity, but it needs to have a legal process. And part of that starts with securing the border first and foremost. But there needs to be a process because in many cases we need those guest workers for our economy. And so the plan was to figure out a way, how do we do this where we...

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Of course. I mean, we're like in our 20s, newlyweds, and like in an incredibly historic moment, and that was special. But back to your earlier question, I had these experiences like, well, this has all been fun, but what else am I going to do? And so I went back to NBA school thinking that I was going to get out of politics. That was my whole vision. It's like NBA school sell you is career shift. And so I went back to NBA school down at University of Virginia thinking that would be my transition out of plastic.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Very much. So she actually came to the ranch and we had scheduled a TV interview to announce the acquisition. And Mrs. Reagan called and said, you can't do that. And we sort of felt like, well, we've now bought it. So I think that would be our decision. But she said, no, you can't do that. And so we didn't because she said, I want to bring all of Ronnie's stuff back. And she drove up and came there and spent several hours with my wife and I putting all the presents, old memorabilia back in where they belonged inside the house. And it was an emotional time because when she departed, she knew that would be her last time ever going. And so it was emotional for her to sort of say goodbye at that point because this was at a point that President Reagan was pretty far advanced in his Alzheimer's and they couldn't use the ranch physically anymore.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Then I'd gone to work for Ollie. But when young America's foundation made the decision to acquire the Reagan Ranch because there had actually been a federal effort to protect it as a federal park, there'd been a state effort. But I think a lot of conservatives felt like the last thing Ronald Reagan would have wanted was American taxpayers to subsidize his home. So Young America's Foundation, the president at the time, Ron Robinson, saw the vision to say, let us go acquire that and use it as a facility to teach young people about Reagan's legacy and about conservatism. And when he made that decision, he asked me to come back with my wife, who was then working at Young Americans Foundation to go out there and lead that project. And David, it was just an incredible blessing for us as people in our 20s to get to go live in Santa Barbara, California, and to run that project. I actually felt like...

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Well, I actually, when I come out of college, I had worked at a group called Young Americas Foundation, and maybe there's a few members here tonight.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. David, that was exactly the president's viewpoint he felt like it's a lot harder for me to sell if we don't have a replacement at the same time. So it was more of a marketing concern. But I think embedded in what Obamacare had developed over the last several years was many federal grants to the states to administer their own Medicaid programs. So the challenge became on the replacement is you had Republican governors calling senators to say you can't do this because we're dependent upon these resources. And that's why the math became more difficult. I fully accept. And I think the president's viewpoint was the same, like how can I go say, I just want to repeal it without having a replacement in line from a marketing perspective. But I think the sheer math of the politics and counting votes, there were votes there to repeal the fix is something that divided our conference.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. The house was way out the gate before the Trump administration even came in. And I think in hindsight, if there'd been an effort, we're going to repeal, and then we're going to work on a separate thing to bring us together, that would have had better legislative success. But trying to merge the two was more difficult. It created more complex.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Well, I think the reality, as you know, in these roles, if you're head of legislative affairs and it doesn't get across the finish line, then sure, we all have some responsibility for that. But I think that overall there was a lot of accomplished in those first two years. But I think on healthcare in particular, you'll recall that Republicans have campaigned since 2010 on promises to repeal and replace Obamacare. And I think candidly Leader McConnell had the best advice in that period because he said my conference, we don't have a big margin. All my members on record for repealing Obamacare. But if you match it with the replacement piece, then your Venn diagram changes. And not everyone's before the replacement piece. And I think the House felt like, look, we have a repeal in place ready. And so actually they started that on like January 3rd. We didn't come into office like January 20th.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Well, I mean, I think I was able to develop a good relationship with him. I think that in those first couple years we accomplished a lot, David. Go back, in my mind, the tax bill was a significant accomplishment, a huge tax relief when you consider that we added 7 million jobs in three years before the pandemic hit. Unemployment reached a 50-year low, all-time low for African Americans, all-time low for Hispanic Americans. That was a big legislative achievement. You look at the first two years, two Supreme Court justices on our pathway to confirming over 300 of the course of the four years. I think that we accomplished a lot. But the first thing we had out of the gate was a big failure in failing on repealing and replacing Obamacare. And I think that we learned a lot to that process too. But I think looking back, the relationship, I was very proud of what I think President Trump was able to accomplish.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Yeah, well, I think people often ask, is there a right role, a right model? And I don't know. Each, I think, administration is different. The relationship is different. But to be candid, I think after the first day or two, President Trump saw that that's where all the action was. And so it became more of him wanting to be directly involved in legislation too and not just delegating that.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Well, there's a lot in that question. I will start by encouraging you who are here, please avail yourself of any lectures that Russell Moore gives or any seminars he does here. He's just a giant in the evangelical world and just your Chicago is lucky to have him. So I certainly hope you guys take advantage of that. With my relationship, the reason I was really put in that place is because during the transition or even a little before the two principles we're talking about, what would the role of the vice president be? And I think that President Trump viewed it as, well, you know, Mike, you're close to Paul Ryan. You were in the house with these guys. A lot of these guys moved on to the Senate. Some you knew as governor. You should be point on the hill, which is why it was like, well, if I'm doing that, then I won't shorten that role.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. But I think the vice president's office really stayed out of a lot of that trauma. I think many people in that office followed Mike Pence's leadership of having a servant's heart as to why we were there and what our purpose was.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. In our public service, it's important to have a servant's heart that we're here to serve the American people more so than a personal ambition or personal goal. And I think that if you develop a culture and a team around you that shares that viewpoint, it can help to keep your staff united. And we were talking a little bit with some of your students beforehand and questions about some of the current controversy between Biden and Harris and that relationship. And I think it's really important that if you share the same culture in an office, that you're there to serve a broader purpose, that you avoid some of the drama. And certainly our White House had a lot of drama.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Well, I think that, as you know, obviously, I've been very privileged to work for Mike Pence, and I think that when I first worked for him on Capitol Hill, we had certain rules on the wall. And these rules were to, one, simple, have fun, to promote all House Republicans, but to honor God and to have a servant's heart. I think that's foundational to it. It's believing that

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. But when I worked for Ali, I remember several times barging into his office thinking I did something important to tell him. And I would see him in prayer surrounded by other men, accountability group, in prayer with the arms around each other. And it was like, you know, here's my image of a three-time Purple Heart, silver star award winner from Vietnam. The macho Marine, who I saw with other men in prayer groups, and it really began to change my viewpoint of what is a Christian. And I realized I need to reevaluate that myself. And it started me on a journey to really better understand, I think, my calling and started me on a different walk in my faith life and a walk to follow Christ. And I credit the sort of being around Ollie and seeing that in his life that really helped to inform my views.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. We'll pass over that. Yeah, thank you. We won't go into detail on that. But you know, I was in my early 20s and I certainly had this impression of what I know I did on Friday and Saturday night in our fraternity parties versus when I saw kids marching off to church on Sunday morning. And I was like, well, you know, that's for them, but not for me.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. Well, I think that I probably had a certain perspective as to what a Christian is and probably informed some of my college years. I probably didn't live up to the best behavior that you'd want to exhibit.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. My dad was, sure, but when I went off to college, I sort of felt like I'd go a different path, but I began getting interested in campus politics when I was in school and really less of the national politics but more there. But you say it was less circuitous, but to be honest, When I came out of college, I was blessed, I think, to have some really unique opportunities. One is I worked for several years for Ollie North, and he taught me a lot. I think he was foundational to my faith. I think I had a...

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. Well, thank you, David. Yes, my father was very active in conservative politics in Virginia grew up in Virginia Beach, and so I was around it for sure. But I didn't really think that was my path when I went off to Polly.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. Well, you know, I think that probably went both ways, to be fair, David. My sense from CNN was it probably leading up to the 2016 campaign, the president got a lot of free airtime on CNN. And I think that there were some at CNN who maybe had a perspective that they wanted to correct that in their coverage of the president. But I didn't have any challenge because I was proud of our record and proud to go on CNN to cover it. I wish I had a chance to have more time on the air with you. And I think that one of the few times we actually were on the panel together, unfortunately, was the 2018 election that was a sweeping victory for Democrats. That was less fun for me to be on the air with you that night.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. David, it's great to be with you. Thanks for having me on the X files, and it's awesome to be around so many students here at the University of Chicago. Thank you for inviting me, my honor.

    2021-12-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 469 — Marc Short · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source