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“Mary Oliver. So Mary Oliver and Emily Dickinson, you know, I've got a lantern and I'm out there looking for myself. I'm like, yeah, me too, Emily. Me too. So those women really, with their words, poetry changed my life. Reading other women's poems and men's poems too. Changed my life. And I'm hoping that these poems will help people look within their own lives and will assure them that they have the strength that they need within to carry on.”
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“Got me thinking I could write poetry. So, do your thing. I'm not coming for you. And I went to meet her. I went to listen to her read her poetry. I went and introduced myself. And I said, you know, I'm your biggest fan. Please. And she's like, okay, I'll just stop with me already. Stop bothering me. And she came to the women's conference. She read the journey. She goes, I'll read one poem for you. I said, please read the journey because the journey changed my life. And it made me think, what do I want to do with my one wild and precious life? And I knew when I was on the floor of the hotel, my one wild, precious life was not ending there. My one wild and precious life was going to be in the open field. And so when I told her I was writing poetry and I read some of it to her, she said, You're going to publish a book of poems, carry on.”
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“Know that you sent me to go. I was the guest editor. I don't know if you remember this, for a month of poetry, for a poetry edition of O magazine. Yes, I do. And I went down, I had become friends with Mary Oliver, and I went for O magazine. I interviewed Mary Oliver for the magazine down in Florida. And when I was first lady, I had been trying to get her to come to the women's conference. And she's like, I don't do that. I don't do that. Stop calling me. Stop bothering me. I said, but the journey, the poem, the journey, it changed my life.”
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“On the hotel room floor and up. And I'm there and I'm like, wow, this was one hell of a life. This was one hell of a ride. And I, all of it, the good, the bad, the ugly, all of it, and all of it made me today. And I feel more at home in myself today than I have ever felt in my entire life. I understand myself better. I love my parents. It's such a deep level. I love my brothers. I love my friends. I love my kids. I'm grateful for every step of the way. And I'm hopeful that I have more years to come where I'm going to do things I've never done and have experiences I've never had.”
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“They don't love me for the family I came from, for the job that I'm doing. They love me for me. And I'm standing there, I hope, with my children who have love in their lives, who have partners with them, with my friends who have been there with me the whole way through.”
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“Will the open field for me represents you know it's it's a riff off of Rumi you know where I'll meet you there it means I'm out beyond shame I'm out beyond the public square I'm out beyond guilt I'm out beyond fear and I'm standing there with people who love me who accept me who love me for just being Maria”
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“Yeah. I hope so. That's why I did it. I wrote it because I wanted people to know that their heart break does not define them, that they can survive, that they can heal, and that they can find their way home to themselves, that they can be a better, more evolved version of themselves, that they can look at their life kind of with a deep appreciation all of it. Everything that happened to them, that they can look at the people in their life with love, with acceptance, with, you know, this great appreciation. That's kind of where I find my open field is.”
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“I am in it 100%. And that's my goal to be, as I say, in the open field. I call it a wildly authentic, deeply meaningful life.”
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“Say I was doing it. I was like afraid, right? So I feel, you know, that I'm now much kinder to myself. I'm kinder to other people. I'm more open with myself. I'm gentler with myself.”
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“I don't want to hear you, you know. And so I think it's a balance. It's a balance of understanding what I want in my life, where I am in my life. I make time in my life now for going and having fun, going and looking at the leaves.”
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“Yes, I find myself in many days being at peace, right? But it's a total inside job. So some days I'm kinder to myself than others. Some days I feel better about myself. I don't feel like totally healed or I got to the mountaintop. No, on a given day, I can, but then like maybe two days later I hear my mother's voice like move it along, let's go. What are you doing? I don't want to hear.”
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“Way more prevalent with women, and yet we have no research into women's brains or women's bodies or women's health journeys. And I'm trying to change that with my women's Alzheimer's movement is to really try to understand particularly what's happening in women's minds, brains at midlife.”
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“It's a really challenging disease. It's incredibly expensive. It's spiritually draining. It's emotionally draining. It's exhausting. And it has yet to become kind of a national priority, which I've tried in many other people have tried to make it so. And the numbers are astounding. The amount of people that are getting it, and we know so much more about it today than we did when my dad.”
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“And you can't, you know, it was very hard for me to see my father, who was the smartest human being I had ever met, playing with puzzles that my two and three-year-olds were playing with. I couldn't compute that. It just made no sense to me at all. And my kids were really helpful to me. They were like, just accept him for who he is. You know, he wants to play a puzzle. Let him play a puzzle. If he wants to just sit there in the yard and not speak, just sit in the yard. And so that was really a challenge for me. It was a challenge for me to watch him become a different person. It was a challenge for me to watch him not be who he was.”
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“And that's, I think I learned from my children, it was a struggle for me, and it's different for parents. It's different for spouses. They have their own journey. That's what I've learned is that when everybody in a family has a different journey with the person who has Alzheimer's, but you want them to be who they were.”
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“Yeah, mind blowing. I use that word. Sometimes people don't like that word associated with Alzheimer's because your brain is going. But it's a mind-blowing disease, which is why I've really spent 20 plus years trying to find a cure for it, trying to educate people about it. I started nonprofits. I've done documentaries. I've done everything you can do to try to find a cure for Alzheimer's, to try to help other families going through it.”
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“Who knows what lurks within the unknowing, the knowing all are one? Who are you? He says. I'm Maria, your daughter, and the light within his eyes flashes. A smile crosses his face. Oh wow, says he always wanted a daughter named Maria. That's all true. You know, he'd be constantly saying to me, Who are you? I'd say, I'm your daughter, Maria. He's like, You're my daughter? I go, Yeah, I'm your daughter. I'm Maria.”
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“And I have such, I remember when she was dying, I took her hand and my mother wasn't somebody that touched you and she didn't hug you or that just wasn't her way. And neither was it my grandmother's way. And I remember taking her hand and saying, you know, you did such an incredible job. You know, I love you and you can go because my brothers and I were connected, we're tight, we're good. You did a great job. And I want you to know that. And she died like 24 hours later. But as you know, she was really everything to me and her voice was tough. Her voice was tough, but I know it was tough on her too.”
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“Strength. She gave me incredible strength. She gave me incredible faith. She gave me the lesson of family. The importance that family is everything. And she would always say, You can have an argument with your brothers, but you cannot Be forever mad at your brothers. You know, they are what you have. And she showed me her brothers and her sisters were her best friends. And she showed me that. And she showed me even, I remember when my uncle Teddy got divorced, she stayed in relationship with my aunt Joan. She stayed in relationship with my aunt Jackie. She stayed in the family, keeping the family together, laughing with her family and prioritizing her family. She gave me that. She gave me so much. She gave me a firm belief that I was here for something larger than myself.”
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“That they were the priority and that they were loved for who they were, not for what they did. I certainly got the lesson that love was attached to accomplishment. And so I wanted to do the opposite of that. There were many things that my mother and father did that I wanted and did emulate, but there were many things that I wanted to do differently.”
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“That was really important to me that they felt loved, that they knew what love was, that their being wasn't less important than maybe what their dad was doing or what their larger family was doing.”
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“Well, I want a priority for you. It was the priority. And it continues to be my priority. I wanted them first and foremost to feel loved.”
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“It's so funny. His character, I have to keep now saying, like, he's not the character. He's not that guy. But it's a great moment. But he also has his feet firmly planted on the ground that he knows, you know, this is a moment and then you'll have to go out and get another job. And then you'll have to go out and get another job. And then it'll go like this. And I think he saw his dad go through that. He's seen people he knows and respect. You know, they have a moment and then they don't. And then they have a moment and then they don't. And what do you have in your life that keeps you in those moments when you're not having a moment? Do you have your family? Do you have other interests? Do you have faith? Do you have a gratitude practice? Do you have friends that love you for you? These are the things that I try to stress to the kids all the time. And I think he saw his dad go through that. And I think he has a pretty good head on his shoulders, but he also knows that, you know, it's a long road. He's young.”
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“Because I could see he and his fianc ⁇ e, who had just gotten engaged were kind of whispering. I thought, what's going on? What's going on? They're like, no, we don't want to say anything. I'm like, they're pregnant. Oh my God, they're going to be pregnant before the wedding. They're like, no, no, no, we're not pregnant. I'm like, well, what is it? You can't just sit here and whisper in front of me. And then when he said that, I was just like, you know, I was like levitated off. And Catherine started crying and she didn't even know what we were talking about. She didn't even know he had auditioned because he wouldn't want to.”
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“And so, when he said it, he said it in a restaurant on vacation, I screamed, so you said like out of the tears. I was just beside myself because I was like,”
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“Well, I'm so. Proud of him. I'm really proud of all of the kids. You know that. And he has worked so hard. He's been in acting classes every single week for like 10, 11 years. And he really wanted to do his acting on his own. You know, there's all this Nepal baby, Neeple Baby. And he specifically didn't want to go and get a job in one of his dad's films. He wanted to do little films. He wanted to do independent films. He wanted to find his own way. He goes out, you know, you see what you see the role he got, but hundreds he didn't get every week he's like not getting a job, not getting a job, not getting a job. So when he said, you know, I'm going to audition for White Lotus, I'm goes, but don't talk to me about it because you know I probably won't get it. Everybody's auditioning for White Lotus. And I was like, oh, okay. And then he never said a word about it. So I just didn't want to say anything because I figured he didn't get the job because he doesn't get most of the jobs, right?”
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“Well, you know, you have more time, they're not living with you, right? You're not in charge, which I'm told repeatedly. So it's, I just play and have fun. And I want to help my daughter. I didn't live in the same city as my mother when I had children. And I really regret that, actually. I see how wonderful it is for Catherine and Chris that they have their whole family around and are together all the time. So I have a play date. You know, myself with my grandchildren. And I just, I love being around. I feel so blessed.”
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“Unbelievable stories and have come up to me a lot about the ends of their marriage. Marriages. And so I think everybody has their own path. And I would never say that my way is the right way. I can only say that this has been right for me and it has been right for my children.”
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“No, and I'm not saying every situation is different. So I think there are many people who can't be in the room and I respect that. There are many people who don't want to be in the room. And I respect that. I respect that too, who don't want to be at the same birthday party, who don't want to have anything to do with the other person. I understand that. And people have told me.”
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“I didn't want my kids to have separate birthday parties. I didn't want them to stress about when they were going to get married, stress about when they would have a child. I didn't want what happened between their dad and me to ruin their lives. It already causes a rupture in their life, right? But I wanted to model for them a new way forward. And I hope they don't get divorced because I believe in marriage. But I want them to know that you can do it well. It takes time.”
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“Of life without heartbreak. There's nobody who can stand at 70 and 80 and feel healed or feel like that they're in the healing journey who doesn't try to process forgiveness, who doesn't go down that path. And that's the point of this book is for not to talk about my own story as much as kind of our universal heartbreak. And that's a way into conversations with other people. I think Arnold and I have a great relationship now. And I think there will always be a love there, right? It's, as you said, I met him when I was 21 years old. He's the father of my children. We're grandparents together. And I don't want to have hate. I don't want to have anger in my body towards another person. I don't want that in my life at all. I don't.”
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“Everything. I've heard everything. And I'd say 90% of what I've heard, 95% is never true. And I think I grew up with that also, like to pay no attention to what you hear about anybody. So, and I think, you know, that had something to do with how I ended up where I ended up, because I never paid any attention to what I heard. So I think that that always drove me crazy to be referred to that way because it wasn't true. And I considered myself and do consider myself a strong woman. And I have met so many women, and I've met a many men, right, who go through heartbreak wherever it is in life and find a healing path forward. And that's the conversation I'm interested in having with people because I think it's there's nobody who gets out.”
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“But this idea of, quote, the Kennedy women are strong. Kennedy women keep the family together. Kennedy, so many of those kids, whether it was Ethel or Jackie, were single mothers raising their kids. So to any woman who's been”
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“Yes, absolutely. And what did I miss? And to, I think, Arnold's credit, he was like nothing. There's nothing you could have done better. And of course, I kept going around and around, you know. And I think that that's normal. And I think it took me a really long time to forgive myself, to forgive the whole situation.”
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“I think it's a long process. You know, it's a long process. But I think if you begin to think about, you know, how tough you've been on yourself, how judgmental you've been on yourself, how hard you've been on yourself.”
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“One of my shamans or therapists said to me, you know, before you can talk about forgiving another person, you have to look at forgiving yourself. And you have to go back and look at your own life and think about, you know, how hard you've been on yourself and how judgmental you've been of yourself and begin the process of forgiving yourself”
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“I did because I had been with Arnold since I was 21. He's the father of my children. I wanted to be able to go to our kids' weddings when they have kids. I wanted to be the person that could be in the room and everybody would be okay.”
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“And I did. You know, I really wanted to move forward and I wanted to have a good relationship with Arnold. I wanted my children to see me moving forward.”
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“Yeah, the public square. Shame filled my body. Humiliation filled my soul. Every inch of my being crumbled. I stood humbled, disgraced, mortified in the public square. I heard the whispers. How could she not have known, not have seen? She must have, she couldn't have not. Poor her, poor them. I could feel the stairs of pity of scorn. I tried to meet them, but eyes turned away. I stood in the public square a mere shadow of my former self, until I thought no, this is not how it's going to go. I'm going to rebuild. I'm going to discard. I'm going to stand in all that I am and carry on. I'm going to move forward, make no mistake. I hear you. I see you. But you'll see, your whispers have nothing on me.”
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“But I wanted to be there for you because you had been there for me and you are one of my best friends in the world. And so I was there and then I got on a plane and left.”
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“Well, I did know it was going to go public that day because I flew to Chicago to be with you. And when I landed. I remember you”
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“Well, I was being a daughter. I was being a journalist. I was being a mother. I was playing all the roles that I think so many people play. And it's a lot, right? Everybody that I talk to who's trying to raise kids, take care of parents, work themselves, be a good wife, you're not really thinking about a lot of other things.”
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“And I really wanted to pick myself up. It's still an emotional thing for me, but I wanted to pick myself up. I wanted to be more open. I wanted to come out from behind whatever padded door I was living behind. I wanted to know. How that had happened to me. I wanted to know who I could be moving forward. I wanted to show my daughters and my boys that I could hold myself up, that I could put my shoulders back, that I could heal. I did not know how to heal. I had just started going to therapy at the end of my marriage. So I had not been someone who had been in therapy. I had not been someone who was on the healing path of life. And I went all in.”
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“Was there. My journalism was put to good use. My curiosity, my creativity all was able to be used in that one specific job. And people don't really know what a first lady does. And each state is obviously different. We only think of, I think, oftentimes the first lady of the United States. But there are incredible First Ladies going on in every state and first partners and first gentlemen now. But you could have tremendous impact in that role, even though it's you're kind of part of a team, but it turned out to be something that obviously I didn't want, but turned out to be an incredible gift for me. So I have to thank Arnold for that. I have to thank the people of California for that.”
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“Yeah, it was an incredible experience, and we raised so much money for so many programs and put people through school and did so many great things. And I met so many great people. And you're right, it allowed me to speak on my own behalf, really. And obviously I was representing Arnold at the time, but I had been a journalist where you don't really have your own voice, right? And then I had grown up in a family where I didn't feel like I had my own voice. So being first lady was the first time for me where I felt like I could speak out on what I wanted to speak. I could speak about women. I could speak about domestic violence. I could speak about women entrepreneurs. I had this big women's conference. I was able to speak about Alzheimer's because my dad had just been diagnosed and I had a platform that I had never had before. And it enabled me to actually use all of the things that I had been raised with. So I brought my political kind of”
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“Cal Exactly. I mean, it turned out obviously I lost my job as soon as Arnold won NBC called and said, you know, you're out. So conflict of interest, it's hard to think of that today, right? When you think about there are like one, you know, a weekend, they're like, oh, no, this is a conflict of interest. You got to get out. But it turned out to be an incredible gift to be the First Lady of California because I made lifelong friendships. I was able to meet so many people up and down this state.”
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“Yeah, and I just was like, I don't want to have anything to do with this business. And so I felt that Arnold was the first thing I could find from politics. And so I was like, oh, I'm going to go do my own thing, follow my own path. I'm going to go into journalism, which was also kind of contrary to my family. So I was like, I'm going to carve out everything differently. And then, of course, you know, you find yourself exactly where you started. And then you have to go, okay, how did I get here? What am I actually running from?”
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“Right, and who was viewed and what was said about him was so contrary to who he was. And so contrary to what he was talking about.”
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“When they ran for National Office, but my dad was on the ticket with McGovern, and I'll never forget standing on that stage with him. And they lost so overwhelmingly. And I felt so ashamed that he had lost so big. And then when we drove home, you saw all the Secret Service unplugging all the phones, locking up the trailers. And in the morning, they were all gone. All the people that have been part of the campaign, all the secret for months just gone, like that overnight. And it was an experience that I can almost call up if I closed my eyes. It was so dramatic that I was like, oh, I am never going to go through this again. And by the way, I was so angry. I was so angry that Richard Nixon was viewed as this incredible victor. And my father was viewed as this incredible loser. And I felt that.”
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“Yes. And I think the other thing I didn't even know is that how triggered that was for me, what a triggering decision, because I thought he's going to be shot or he's going to lose. Because those were my two experiences and or the public will take him away and we'll be left the kids and I had left here. So my experience with politics was so traumatic that that Erupted in me, so I was like, please don't go and do that. So it wasn't that I was just like, Oh, I don't want you to have your dream. It was that there was a lot of unresolved feelings that no one had spoken to me about when he broached the subject. I remember he shared.”
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